Game of the Year 2012 will be either Halo 4 or Dishonored (AC3 am cry)

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] its one of the best game release in years. plus in a front of crappy games. its easily GOTY...sts106mat

thanks x100 for convincing me to buy it.

As much as I want AC3 to be GOTY, I believe Halo 4 will have the last laugh. The game is so heavily hyped, advertised and talked about more than even AC3.

Pretty sure the sales will reflect it as well.

My personal goty will ether be Sleeping Dogs or AC3.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

There was never any moral ambiguity involved with it though. It was essentially space saint or space sinner. The Witcher and Fallout: New Vegas implement morally gray choices the best this gen. There may be other games like Alpha Protocol that I haven't really played, but BioWare doesn't know how to do moral gray choices.

For them their in-game decisions are "you can save the orphans..... OR you can sacrifice them and make the orphanage your new haunted playplace! :D"

NeonNinja

I haven't played DA2. ME3 is morally grey though, so I'll take your word on DA2 if you say it is as grey as ME3. But Jade Empire was really bad at it. ME1 and ME2 weren't as goodevil as Jade, but they were still really obvious.

I seriously think ME3 is a strong front-runner. I think it deserves some awards. It restored my faith in BioWare, I didn't think they had a game of this caliber in them.

[QUOTE="sts106mat"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] nah, its not even the best game on the day it released. XCom was a much better game with more replayability.mems_1224

thanks x100 for convincing me to buy it.

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] No thats old Bioware (and boy did they flop in Jade Empire, describing its system as grey, but implimenting it in the most black and white way).....new Bioware does moral grayness much better. DA2 is actually far more grey than its predecessor and ME3 is easily the most grey of all three games. And really, people who write of ME3 for GOTY consideration are pretty ignorant. It has a very good shot, especially if AC3 does less that expected. Also, th eOmega DLC also will remind critics of the game and if the DLC delivers, ME3 have an easy shot. Dishonored won't get many awards, XCOM will win Gamespy and no where else, Halo 4 and COD BO2 are too derivative and by the books, AC3 has a legitimate shot however Desmond can drive the story down and Connor not only has to live up to Ezio, he may have to not be overshadowed by Aveline as well.texasgoldrush

I haven't played DA2. ME3 is morally grey though, so I'll take your word on DA2 if you say it is as grey as ME3. But Jade Empire was really bad at it. ME1 and ME2 weren't as goodevil as Jade, but they were still really obvious.

I seriously think ME3 is a strong front-runner. I think it deserves some awards. It restored my faith in BioWare, I didn't think they had a game of this caliber in them.

It's been years since I played it, over seven now. But I recall there were facial expressions as well by your main character and I remember closed fist getting some gnarly mean looks out of my girl haha.

But seriously, I remember when the first act one of the major choices was, "save the village. Or don't." It was so black and white I was just caught off guard by it.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

I haven't played DA2. ME3 is morally grey though, so I'll take your word on DA2 if you say it is as grey as ME3. But Jade Empire was really bad at it. ME1 and ME2 weren't as goodevil as Jade, but they were still really obvious.

I seriously think ME3 is a strong front-runner. I think it deserves some awards. It restored my faith in BioWare, I didn't think they had a game of this caliber in them.

NeonNinja

It's been years since I played it, over seven now. But I recall there were facial expressions as well by your main character and I remember closed fist getting some gnarly mean looks out of my girl haha.

But seriously, I remember when the first act one of the major choices was, "save the village. Or don't." It was so black and white I was just caught off guard by it.

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] The problem with Jade Empire is that while the Open Palm/Closed Fist system is in principle morally grey, Drew K screwed it up in practice basically only showing the good aspects of Open Palm and the bad aspects of Closed Fist.texasgoldrush

It's been years since I played it, over seven now. But I recall there were facial expressions as well by your main character and I remember closed fist getting some gnarly mean looks out of my girl haha.

But seriously, I remember when the first act one of the major choices was, "save the village. Or don't." It was so black and white I was just caught off guard by it.

Exactly

In ME3, I ended up making choices that came naturally to me and I was surprised that some of them came out as Renegade choices. It let me deal with the consequences. Jade Empire's evil playthrough was just ridiculous. It did help out ME, but the first two games were very black and white. You even leveled up dialogue options, Charm or Intimidate, and right there in the description it reads for Charm "opens new conversations and Paragon points" or something and then the same thing reads for intimidate for renegade. Thankfully that's a non-issue in ME3. They kept the red and blue which are carryovers of charm and intimidate, but I'm glad they still function based on how you played. In my first playthrough of ME3, Andersen dies because I couldn't save him. Didn't have enough Paragon points to get the final dialogue choice at the end.

I'm going through the series again, it has evolved really well. ME1's dialogue comes off as stilted. ME2's tries a little too hard to be tough-sounding. ME3's comes off as natural. I find myself skipping a lot of ME1's dialogue on this playthrough just because so much of it is information or lore. I also hate how conversations require input from me for every little thing. The dialogue wheel will have one option, and it's obviously to forward the conversation, so why not just do that?

ME3 is a major improvement within the series. I didn't expect to like it as much as I did. It's a great hybrid, with great design in just about every area. I don't recall a single thing annoying me during my playthrough of the game, and that's very rare for me.

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

Halo 4 wont be the best shooter this year. (Max Payne 3)

charizard1605

no it doesn't suck.

Far Cry 3 will be GOTY.

I'm surprised people are voting for Dishonored....

There are so many contenders, that's impossible to tell.

Mass Effect 3

Max Payne 3

Journey

Halo 4

Assassins Creed 3

Far Cry 3

Planetside 2

Guild wars 2

etc...etc

I'm surprised people are voting for Dishonored....

JangoWuzHere

Why are you surprised?

It's an excellent game...

What about Mass Effect 3.

@TheEroica and harizard1605

The character in ME3 was not flatter, sure most did not get screen time, But not flatter. Their depth is beased on how they reaction to the war. ME3 has plenty of depth with character especially with characters talking with one another and npc. Really, you felt nothing when you found out the fate of the krogan poet you met in ME2, and what about the asari pts commando?

Tehn there is thefact you are always wondering the fate of you allies. If they would servive this war, and the death of the allies you can't save. Or even the results of a choice you made that has a result you did not expect.

ME3 may not have the specilized missions in ME2 dedicated to develping their character but it's no lesser for itin character develop...Out side of Thane pre-coup.

When was the last time Halo got a GftY?dreman999

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] 100% dishonored too boring for me. Xcom is fantastic though, certainly the best game this year.

thanks x100 for convincing me to buy it.

texasgoldrush

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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

In your list AC3 is the only game I would consider GOTY. Halo 4 has nothing on Black Ops 2, sorry 360 fans but Black Ops 2 is going to win best shooter of the year, no doubt about it. Dishonored is too short to win GOTY, RE6 is good but not amazing.

I see GOTY coming down between Black Ops 2, Mass Effect 3, and Assassin's Creed 3.

ShadowMoses900

Halo 4 has a really good chance of winning. It looks fantastic and I don't even own a 360.

I just don't see it beating Black Ops 2, I personally know people in real life who unfortunately have the game already. I don't support piracey, I hate it and I frown on the people that do it. Not going to spoil anything, but don't expect much from the campaign, it's rediculously short, it's like it was an after thought.

[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Halo 4SNIPER4321

fresh experience, .Zeviander

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] ........o.O Facepalm/ srsly what is so fresh about Halo 4???....SNIPER4321

its not the same game from 2001, in fact every installment feels different than the game before it because they're always tweaking the gameplay and making changes. it changes from game to game more than other franchises do.

Guild Wars 2 should win but they won't give it to a PC exclusive.gamebreakerz__

[QUOTE="dreman999"]When was the last time Halo got a GftY?Zeviander

fresh experience, .Zeviander

[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]entirely new enemy that plays completely different than the covenant, new weapons, new vehicles, new abilities, new multiplayer modes, take your pick. the fundamental gameplay hasn't changed but almost everything else has. mems_1224