Gametrailers Editor-in-Chief sets his priorities straight...

- Zelda is old and tired

- Wii sucks

- Nintendo is old and tired

Get a new pony, this one's on life support trying to do the same trick over and over

In general I agree that old-school craftsmanship and game design beats pure graphics and fancy shmancy animations.

But that's true only up to a point.

When a game looks so empty and bad, it's hard to say "Well at least the design is good."

I didn't think Ass Creed 2 looked that great.

It didn't have great graphics or much superficiality.

It basically stood on its gameplay and living breathing world.

I'm guessing it's better than SS in every way.

Since I see no reply Thunderdrone I'm going to assume you conceded? If that's the case, then it's time to bask in the victory of teh interwebz ... I'm cold ... :P

the editor in chief of gametrailers is highly opinionated and he doesnt give a crap how much people hate on him and thats why i respect him, when he gets critisized he just shrugs his shoulders, which is what we all should do, this is one mans opinion, if you dont agree with it then good for you i guess

Since I see no reply Thunderdrone I'm going to assume you conceded? If that's the case, then it's time to bask in the victory of teh interwebz ... I'm cold ... :P

greenskittles

TC's source.
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/episode-185-invisible-walls/723938

Go 22 minutes into the podcast

TC overexagerrated and took his words out of context. At no point did Shane say Assassin's Creed is better. The closest thing he said to that was that he'd rather 20-hour game with higher production values over a 50-hour game. He just dislikes the overal fidelity of the game which is obviously held back by the Wii hardware. He's halfway through the game and he's just frustrated with design flaws. He said WAAAY more before he came to the quotes the TC used. He even loved Twilight Princess.

He just wants a Zelda game that's not held back by hardware and low production value.

I really see nothing wrong with his opinion here. Why does it matter? Different strokes for different folks. If AC is the game that fills his adventure gaming need, with it's Hollywood style cinematic flair AND great gameplay (remember it has that too), plus it's MP is actually really solid, why can't he pick that over Zelda? I love Zelda game, and I admit too sometimes I'd like to see it with the level of detail and care AC has. There's nothing wrong with the way AC has evolved in such a short time, nor is there anything wrong with it overall. Both are great titles, both are also action/adventure games, and if someone wants a tighter experience that gives them 20 hours of thrills and frills, over 50 hours of questing, collecting, and sword playing, then what is so bad? Nothing, that's what. yoshi_64

What would you REALLY prefer? 150 NPCs in a city that are completely generic spawns and just walk around and do nothing, or 20 NPCs that are all unique and each do something different or important?

That is funny because I got Twilight Princess while the HD era had already kicked off and finished it 100%. Then I got Assassin's Creed and quit playing after a few hours because the shallowness of the cinema-driven "gameplay" started to become too obvious.

DraugenCP

So can you even talk to all those mindless NPCs in Assassin's Creed, do they even offer interesting sidequests outside the main story? Nope. Don't see his point.

At least he is honest about it. It seens that by default every reviewer has to revere and suck the genitals of any Nintendo major franchise game.

Oh, and Assassin's Creed sucks. That is all.

I realised a few years ago how differeny my tastes have become from the mainstream. I pretty much ignore all gaming journalism.

Also Thunder, this is SW. Don't be suprised if you find more people agreeing with the gametrailers quotes.

This is exactly the kind of thinking that I feel completely discredits our "professional" review community. What differentiate games from other media? Gameplay and level design. Lets reward games that push those things rather than cinematic flourish.

Some people just don't care for gameplay-oriented experiences anymore.foxhound_fox

The Legend of Zelda games may follow similar structures, and may not have the newest (and thankfully they don't gameplay elements), but I will be damned if I find a video game series as magaical, mystical, or able to tell an immersive story without a heavy reliance on cutscenes or scripted events.

He is talking about gameplay oriented experiences. Having a game world with 500 NPCs and a highly polished and interactive world like in Assassin's Creed changes gameplay mechanics considerably. It doesn't just look better, but it plays better as well. Satterfield is saying that games like this new Zelda just feel outdated at this point.Samurai_Xavier

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Some people just don't care for gameplay-oriented experiences anymore.Samurai_Xavier

In contrast skyloft has plenty of townfolk that have their own personalities and priorities.

Is the guy a PC gamer? Because if he's a 360/PS3 gamer, he should STFU. The Wii is to the 360/PS3 as the 360/PS3 are to the PC.Hexagon_777

I agree with him, I'm sick of games dwelling on nostalgia values. Overlord93

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Since I see no reply Thunderdrone I'm going to assume you conceded? If that's the case, then it's time to bask in the victory of teh interwebz ... I'm cold ... :P

Thunderdrone

.... again I see nowhere where he is saying that specifically, and I've looked at the entire segment.

Assassin's Creed is my favorite new IP this gen and Zelda is my favorite IP ever.

Still, I don't see why giving SS a whole bunch of "zombie" NPCs, like in AC, will help. TP's Castle Town was just like that, and I hated it. All the people were useless and were there just to be there. I much preferred what was done in OOT, MM, and WW. At least for what the game is trying to do. AC isn't trying to be like Zelda, and Zelda isn't trying to be like AC. AC's goal is to create an atmospheric representation of (insert time period here) and allow an environment that meshes well with the mechanics in the game (stealth, running away from guards, blending in etc...). Zelda is about building a critical adventure with a charmful story, unique characters and artistically beautiful environments. Zelda is "cinematic" in its own way; why do we need it to be like everything else?

As I said in the other thread, I am not surprised that Shane didn't like the game. Can't really hear the podcast since I have no sound on my PC but yeah not surprised at all.

I think's it's funny that reviewers like to bring up other games from different genres and are not similar at all with Zelda in there reviews. Hell I hate it when they do that with other games too.

Wah, I don't agree with his opinion!sammyjenkis898

I kinda agree with him, I can't go back to my PS2, I would like to play GOW2, I never played it but the gfx, it hurts my eye .... skysword looks cool tho, the cel shedded style doesn't get old, but it would be much nicer if the game was on a HD console.

omho88

lol people are mad bc he has his own opinion???

[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]Wah, I don't agree with his opinion!nintendoboy16

Wah, I don't agree with his opinion!sammyjenkis898

Y'know the good thing about opinions is that people can debate, refute them ;).

Unless if you think it's a genuine criticism to dumb down the combat and make this a short 15 hour cinematic thrill ride

"Wah stop picking on him guys"

Y'know the good thing about opinions is that people can debate, refute them ;).

Shinobishyguy

And that's exactly what's going on here. People's reactions to his opinion is totally rashional! Refuting and debating? Please. It's past that.

It doesn't matter, though. People are going to whine and moan, and not accept, his opinion no matter what.

I mean... I haven't played it yet, but it sounds like the guy's right... and even if he's not... who really cares?

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]Wah, I don't agree with his opinion!sammyjenkis898

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]"Wah stop picking on him guys"

Y'know the good thing about opinions is that people can debate, refute them ;).

sammyjenkis898

And that's exactly what's going on here. People's reactions to his opinion is totally rashional! Refuting and debating? Please. It's past that.

It doesn't matter, though. People are going to whine and moan, and not accept, his opinion no matter what.

lol people are mad bc he has his own opinion???Austindro

I don't need my games to take a cinematic approach, sorry. Production values are nice but Gameplay>>>>bobcheeseball