Gears 2 Act 1 Review - Close to A CARBON COPY of Gears 1 Campaign

from TC's link:

"The same characters, the same grey walls, the same weapons… you would be forgiven for thinking that there has been no evolution at all. That it is merely an expansion pack to the original. But your thoughts will soon change."

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"'Epic'. That is the first word that crept awestruck from our mouths when we had the Xbox 360 controller pried from our clenched hands and were pushed out a security door somewhere deep in the middle of Microsoft's Sydney headquarters."

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"You'll watch in horror as a Corpser appears upon a hill-top and launches itself in your direction. Chilling stuff, and few games have ever rivalled this half hour of gameplay for sheer scope. You're going to bloody love it!"

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"With Gears of War 2, it is like Epic Games grabbed every knob on their gameboard (which we just made up, but think of it like the gaming alternative of the soundboard) and cranked it up a few notches. Everything from the first game is there, it is just that much better. Sound effects are twice as robust, animations twice as fluid, the range of visual effects that more in-depth and you better believe there's gallons more gore. They've even found a few more colours. Unreal Engine 2.0 is not a new beast and doesn't deliver a different experience. It is instead an evolution of the middleware comparable to the way sport games like FIFA and Pro Evolution Soccer move forward each year. It's heaps better"

etc..

opex07

Dude..they just compared gears to a sports franchise. That is not a good sign at all. Besides, all that was said in the original post.

"– the core gameplay is close to a carbon copy of the original, right down to the split level design paths for co-op. If you hated GoW1, you'll hate this. "

[QUOTE="dgsag"]

Indeed, it's not about to win over new fans. A few weapons and enemies aside – not to mention slight gameplay additions like the ability to use fallen foes as locust shields, and drag yourself across the ground once wounded – the core gameplay is close to a carbon copy of the original, right down to the split level design paths for co-op. If you hated GoW1, you'll hate this.

And there could still be reason to hate: we found ourselves sticking to pretty much the one gun throughout – so it looks like no new tactical depth has snuck into the arcade action - and there were a few moments that erred a little too much on the side of frustration and tedium - in particular a 'quest' to shoot incoming mortars out of the air before they crushed our ride into metal dandruff. Plus, it took approximately an hour on normal difficulty to complete the act, which would suggest a five to six hour experienceIF (and we have no confirmation)the game continues with the five act narrative seen in the original. Simply not long enough to excite fans who didn't get into the niche multiplayer component like they did Halo or Call of Duty... or who simply aren't online.

http://www.gameplayer.com.au/gp_documents/GoW-Act1.aspx?Page=4

If Epic truly hasn't changed up the core mechanics of its single-player and co-op, there's no way Gears 2 will deserve the AAAA or 9.5 status that lemmings are hyping it up to.

Phazevariance

Yet another COW who is upset they get to miss out on the best game of this year.

Skipping three pages of positive preview to post the conclusive paragraphs outlying some of the negatives = ****c system wars.Ninja-Hippo

all and all, it's just sad. no wonder he hasn't been back.

[QUOTE="dgsag"]

Indeed, it's not about to win over new fans. A few weapons and enemies aside – not to mention slight gameplay additions like the ability to use fallen foes as locust shields, and drag yourself across the ground once wounded – the core gameplay is close to a carbon copy of the original, right down to the split level design paths for co-op. If you hated GoW1, you'll hate this.

And there could still be reason to hate: we found ourselves sticking to pretty much the one gun throughout – so it looks like no new tactical depth has snuck into the arcade action - and there were a few moments that erred a little too much on the side of frustration and tedium - in particular a 'quest' to shoot incoming mortars out of the air before they crushed our ride into metal dandruff. Plus, it took approximately an hour on normal difficulty to complete the act, which would suggest a five to six hour experienceIF (and we have no confirmation)the game continues with the five act narrative seen in the original. Simply not long enough to excite fans who didn't get into the niche multiplayer component like they did Halo or Call of Duty... or who simply aren't online.

http://www.gameplayer.com.au/gp_documents/GoW-Act1.aspx?Page=4

If Epic truly hasn't changed up the core mechanics of its single-player and co-op, there's no way Gears 2 will deserve the AAAA or 9.5 status that lemmings are hyping it up to.

Phazevariance

Yet another COW who is upset they get to miss out on the best game of this year.

if I remember correctly, he is not a cow, but a hermit. there's also been a lot of talk about how Gears 2 isn't coming to PC...

what? so blowing up a car like cod4 or Resistance looks dumb?...get real, cars glued to the ground look dumb.

killzowned24

The whole point of the cars being there is to act as cover. It's a cover-based game. And seriously, when you're complaining that cars dont blow up you're really starting to look for reasons to hate in all the wrong places.

[QUOTE="opex07"]

from TC's link:

"The same characters, the same grey walls, the same weapons… you would be forgiven for thinking that there has been no evolution at all. That it is merely an expansion pack to the original. But your thoughts will soon change."

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"'Epic'. That is the first word that crept awestruck from our mouths when we had the Xbox 360 controller pried from our clenched hands and were pushed out a security door somewhere deep in the middle of Microsoft's Sydney headquarters."

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"You'll watch in horror as a Corpser appears upon a hill-top and launches itself in your direction. Chilling stuff, and few games have ever rivalled this half hour of gameplay for sheer scope. You're going to bloody love it!"

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"With Gears of War 2, it is like Epic Games grabbed every knob on their gameboard (which we just made up, but think of it like the gaming alternative of the soundboard) and cranked it up a few notches. Everything from the first game is there, it is just that much better. Sound effects are twice as robust, animations twice as fluid, the range of visual effects that more in-depth and you better believe there's gallons more gore. They've even found a few more colours. Unreal Engine 2.0 is not a new beast and doesn't deliver a different experience. It is instead an evolution of the middleware comparable to the way sport games like FIFA and Pro Evolution Soccer move forward each year. It's heaps better"

etc..

Adrian_Cloud

Dude..they just compared gears to a sports franchise. That is not a good sign at all. Besides, all that was said in the original post.

"– the core gameplay is close to a carbon copy of the original, right down to the split level design paths for co-op. If you hated GoW1, you'll hate this. "

The only key here is "If you hated Gears of War 1".

As if they were creating the game for people who hated Gears of War. :|

Think about it.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]the game looks the same, even the cars are still glued to the ground with no physis like the 1st.:lol:Dreams-Visions

How's HAZE treating you?

what? so blowing up a car like cod4 or Resistance looks dumb?...get real, cars glued to the ground look dumb.

Wanna try that one again? My point was that worrying about car physics in this game completely sidesteps the premise or purpose of the gameplay in it.

Then again, your purpose was to denigrate Gears of War for any possible reason. So of all reasons, you chose...cars. :|

Enjoy Resistance man. Enjoy Call of Duty 4. I sure do.

And never forget that Gears of War outscored them both. And there's nothing you can do to change it.

cars that dont move because they are glued to the ground looks lame.

gears is a fail.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]the game looks the same, even the cars are still glued to the ground with no physis like the 1st.:lol:killzowned24

How's HAZE treating you?

what? so blowing up a car like cod4 or Resistance looks dumb?...get real, cars glued to the ground look dumb.

Wanna try that one again? My point was that worrying about car physics in this game completely sidesteps the premise or purpose of the gameplay in it.

Then again, your purpose was to denigrate Gears of War for any possible reason. So of all reasons, you chose...cars. :|

Enjoy Resistance man. Enjoy Call of Duty 4. I sure do.

And never forget that Gears of War outscored them both. And there's nothing you can do to change it.

cars that dont move because they are glued to the ground looks lame.

gears is a fail.

wow. :|

I...I'll let someone else take it from here. Because I don't have the patience.

Dude..they just compared gears to a sports franchise. That is not a good sign at all. Besides, all that was said in the original post.

"– the core gameplay is close to a carbon copy of the original, right down to the split level design paths for co-op. If you hated GoW1, you'll hate this. "

Adrian_Cloud

Read it again. They did not compare Gears to anything; they were talking about Unreal Engine 3 to Unreal Engine 3 2.0; a small evolution of tweaks and improvements.

Dude..they just compared gears to a sports franchise. That is not a good sign at all. Besides, all that was said in the original post.

"– the core gameplay is close to a carbon copy of the original, right down to the split level design paths for co-op. If you hated GoW1, you'll hate this. "

Adrian_Cloud

The writer considers them to be good, also I don't know about the FIFA series but the Pro series has made some significant leaps in its recent games.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]the game looks the same, even the cars are still glued to the ground with no physis like the 1st.:lol:killzowned24

How's HAZE treating you?

what? so blowing up a car like cod4 or Resistance looks dumb?...get real, cars glued to the ground look dumb.

Wanna try that one again? My point was that worrying about car physics in this game completely sidesteps the premise or purpose of the gameplay in it.

Then again, your purpose was to denigrate Gears of War for any possible reason. So of all reasons, you chose...cars. :|

Enjoy Resistance man. Enjoy Call of Duty 4. I sure do.

And never forget that Gears of War outscored them both. And there's nothing you can do to change it.

cars that dont move because they are glued to the ground looks lame.

gears is a fail.

get real.

cars that dont move because they are glued to the ground looks lame.

gears is a fail.

killzowned24

Isn't the whole idea of you parking your car and applying the hand break that it remains glued to the ground? :?

I'm still amazed that people expect a completely different game out of a sequel. Take a look at God of War 2. Basically the same game, but with a few things added, and some gameplay tweaks. That's usually what a sequel is. It's laughable that people spin "same ol', same ol'" into a negative, then crap on something when it does change. There's no winning for these developers. But I'm sure the sales and reviews will slap all negative criticism in the face.

BioShockOwnz

yeah, just like LOZ:MM and LOZ:WW and Super mario sunshine and SMG and Super Metroid and Metroid Prime :p

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Dude..they just compared gears to a sports franchise. That is not a good sign at all. Besides, all that was said in the original post.

"– the core gameplay is close to a carbon copy of the original, right down to the split level design paths for co-op. If you hated GoW1, you'll hate this. "

Ninja-Hippo

Read it again. They did not compare Gears to anything; they were talking about Unreal Engine 3 to Unreal Engine 3 2.0; a small evolution of tweaks and improvements.

And what does Gears 2 run on? I have honestly never ever heard that said about a franchise before that is not a sports franchise, extremely dis-appointing. I mean in essence a sequel is supposed to retain elements from the previous game, but this is just too much nonsense.

I mean having the same negatives? WTH! hurray. 6 hour gameplay... hurrah? Like what did they really accomplish, if they didn't improve the areas in which they failed( i mean the A.I is so bad, not enemy- but team a.i).

Unreal 2 may not be a new beast, or deliver a different experience. But Gears 2 is a NEW game and should deliver a different experience.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Dude..they just compared gears to a sports franchise. That is not a good sign at all. Besides, all that was said in the original post.

"– the core gameplay is close to a carbon copy of the original, right down to the split level design paths for co-op. If you hated GoW1, you'll hate this. "

Adrian_Cloud

Read it again. They did not compare Gears to anything; they were talking about Unreal Engine 3 to Unreal Engine 3 2.0; a small evolution of tweaks and improvements.

And what does Gears 2 run on? I have honestly never ever heard that said about a franchise before that is not a sports franchise, extremely dis-appointing. I mean in essence a sequel is supposed to retain elements from the previous game, but this is just too much nonsense.

I mean having the same negatives? WTH! hurray. 6 hour gameplay... hurrah? Like what did they really accomplish, if they didn't improve the areas in which they failed( i mean the A.I is so bad, not enemy- but team a.i).

Unreal 2 may not be a new beast, or deliver a different experience. But Gears 2 is a NEW game and should deliver a different experience.

Then why are you so concerned? Guess what? The people who ARE going to buy the game are glad that it sticks to the formula.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

cars that dont move because they are glued to the ground looks lame.

gears is a fail.

Ninja-Hippo

Isn't the whole idea of you parking your car and applying the hand break that it remains glued to the ground? :?

You know when a grenade blows up right next to a car with no movement it looks dumb.

geasr 1.5 does the same as the 1st making a major set peice do nothing and look stupid imo.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]the game looks the same, even the cars are still glued to the ground with no physis like the 1st.:lol:killzowned24

How's HAZE treating you?

what? so blowing up a car like cod4 or Resistance looks dumb?...get real, cars glued to the ground look dumb.

Wanna try that one again? My point was that worrying about car physics in this game completely sidesteps the premise or purpose of the gameplay in it.

Then again, your purpose was to denigrate Gears of War for any possible reason. So of all reasons, you chose...cars. :|

Enjoy Resistance man. Enjoy Call of Duty 4. I sure do.

And never forget that Gears of War outscored them both. And there's nothing you can do to change it.

cars that dont move because they are glued to the ground looks lame.

gears is a fail.

See, the thing is, while the cars don't generally move, partly because most of them are wornd out, old, covered in shrubs and other organic life forms, they are meant to be cover. You actually could move some cover around in Gears one, and there's a portable shield you can plant. Yet let's just say this... it's one aspect that really doesn't mount to much, right? I mean how many cars did you really see in gears? Operable ones at that?

If you were in the giant tank thing, at the one scene, the cars actually moved about, so did other garbage. Right? I wonder, could it be the cars actually were quite heavy obstacles? No... couldn't be. I mean, the COG and Locust sure are big, brutes, but not even they could move an entire car themselves, right?

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I'm still amazed that people expect a completely different game out of a sequel. Take a look at God of War 2. Basically the same game, but with a few things added, and some gameplay tweaks. That's usually what a sequel is. It's laughable that people spin "same ol', same ol'" into a negative, then crap on something when it does change. There's no winning for these developers. But I'm sure the sales and reviews will slap all negative criticism in the face.

spectravoid

yeah, just like LOZ:MM and LOZ:WW and Super mario sunshine and SMG and Super Metroid and Metroid Prime :p

The difference there is that they all have different names.

I love Gears of War..played through the campaign about 5 times; 200 hours in the multiplayer...My heart is pretty much set as to how good it will be. So if your trying to convey sameness, thank you, you have just solidified my hopes even more..Pro_wrestler

100% YES.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

yoshi_64

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

cars that dont move because they are glued to the ground looks lame.

gears is a fail.

killzowned24

Isn't the whole idea of you parking your car and applying the hand break that it remains glued to the ground? :?

You know when a grenade blows up right next to a car with no movement it looks dumb.

geasr 1.5 does the same as the 1st making a major set peice do nothing and look stupid imo.

You know what I hate? How in Resistance 2, a guy can get stabbed through the back, but while blood comes out of his chest, there's no visible exit wound. It just looks dumb.

How lame. Resistance 2 sucks, solely because of this.

:roll:

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Dude..they just compared gears to a sports franchise. That is not a good sign at all. Besides, all that was said in the original post.

"– the core gameplay is close to a carbon copy of the original, right down to the split level design paths for co-op. If you hated GoW1, you'll hate this. "

opex07

The writer considers them to be good, also I don't know about the FIFA series but the Pro series has made some significant leaps in its recent games.

Dude its a bad thing... every year. If you watch soccer, you know what the teams are going to look like, and what players should be able to do certain things. If you buy the new version each year(which is nonsense), then you know that additions that have been made, that are for the good and for the bad. The problem with Gears is that its not a sports title, and people expect more than a 6 hour experience(well they should). They should not be EXPECTING the SAME THING.. but with a TAD bit of UPGRADES, that at the END of 6 HOURS like a SPORTS GAME, there is NO STORY, NO REASON to PLAY managers mode AGAIN, and you've MASTERED the game SO EASILY since its basically the same as the previous. THAT when you go online you practically start right where you left off.

Fifa 09 is really good this year, lots of great improvement. haven't played pro evo for this year yet. AC Milan!!!

[QUOTE="opex07"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Dude..they just compared gears to a sports franchise. That is not a good sign at all. Besides, all that was said in the original post.

"– the core gameplay is close to a carbon copy of the original, right down to the split level design paths for co-op. If you hated GoW1, you'll hate this. "

Adrian_Cloud

The writer considers them to be good, also I don't know about the FIFA series but the Pro series has made some significant leaps in its recent games.

Dude its a bad thing... every year. If you watch soccer, you know what the teams are going to look like, and what players should be able to do certain things. If you buy the new version each year(which is nonsense), then you know that additions that have been made, that are for the good and for the bad. The problem with Gears is that its not a sports title, and people expect more than a 6 hour experience(well they should). They should not be EXPECTING the SAME THING.. but with a TAD bit of UPGRADES, that at the END of 6 HOURS like a SPORTS GAME, there is NO STORY, NO REASON to PLAY managers mode AGAIN, and you've MASTERED the game SO EASILY since its basically the same as the previous. THAT when you go online you practically start right where you left off.

Fifa 09 is really good this year, lots of great improvement. haven't played pro evo for this year yet. AC Milan!!!

So you hated God of War 2?

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

cars that dont move because they are glued to the ground looks lame.

gears is a fail.

sonicmj1

Isn't the whole idea of you parking your car and applying the hand break that it remains glued to the ground? :?

You know when a grenade blows up right next to a car with no movement it looks dumb.

geasr 1.5 does the same as the 1st making a major set peice do nothing and look stupid imo.

You know what I hate? How in Resistance 2, a guy can get stabbed through the back, but while blood comes out of his chest, there's no visible exit wound. It just looks dumb.

How lame. Resistance 2 sucks, solely because of this.

:roll:

you think they would show that, all i see is chipping of walls and trees being hit by a on rails part.killzowned24

Simple math then illustrates Gears2=R2 in terms of likeness and detail, thush if Gears2=Fail by your terms R2=Fail as well. Rawr!

No seriously, why wouldn't they show it? You do know it won't be in there, right? The shrubbery will pretty much have no phsyics (grass won't curl when stepped on, trees/bushes/etc will not bend and move when you interact with it, nor will you likely be able to mow down a whole forest, let alone cut a whole tree.

Dude its a bad thing... every year. If you watch soccer, you know what the teams are going to look like, and what players should be able to do certain things. If you buy the new version each year(which is nonsense), then you know that additions that have been made, that are for the good and for the bad. The problem with Gears is that its not a sports title, and people expect more than a 6 hour experience(well they should). They should not be EXPECTING the SAME THING.. but with a TAD bit of UPGRADES, that at the END of 6 HOURS like a SPORTS GAME, there is NO STORY, NO REASON to PLAY managers mode AGAIN, and you've MASTERED the game SO EASILY since its basically the same as the previous. THAT when you go online you practically start right where you left off.

Fifa 09 is really good this year, lots of great improvement. haven't played pro evo for this year yet. AC Milan!!!

Adrian_Cloud

Every sports title isnt Madden, I already said that pro evo made significant changes in its recent titles, and you said that Fifa 09 has great improvements so whats the problem?

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

You know what I hate? How in Resistance 2, a guy can get stabbed through the back, but while blood comes out of his chest, there's no visible exit wound. It just looks dumb.

How lame. Resistance 2 sucks, solely because of this.

:roll:

killzowned24

Maybe for you. I never thought of that as a problem when I was playing the first Gears of War. After all, why would shrapnel send a vehicle that weighs tons flying?

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Dude its a bad thing... every year. If you watch soccer, you know what the teams are going to look like, and what players should be able to do certain things. If you buy the new version each year(which is nonsense), then you know that additions that have been made, that are for the good and for the bad. The problem with Gears is that its not a sports title, and people expect more than a 6 hour experience(well they should). They should not be EXPECTING the SAME THING.. but with a TAD bit of UPGRADES, that at the END of 6 HOURS like a SPORTS GAME, there is NO STORY, NO REASON to PLAY managers mode AGAIN, and you've MASTERED the game SO EASILY since its basically the same as the previous. THAT when you go online you practically start right where you left off.

Fifa 09 is really good this year, lots of great improvement. haven't played pro evo for this year yet. AC Milan!!!

opex07

Every sports title isnt Madden, I lready said that pro evo made significant changes in its recent titles, and you said that Fifa 09 has great improvements so whats the problem?

Its great for a sports title.. not other genres. If MGS was like this.. i would be mighty POd.

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="opex07"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Dude..they just compared gears to a sports franchise. That is not a good sign at all. Besides, all that was said in the original post.

"– the core gameplay is close to a carbon copy of the original, right down to the split level design paths for co-op. If you hated GoW1, you'll hate this. "

BioShockOwnz

The writer considers them to be good, also I don't know about the FIFA series but the Pro series has made some significant leaps in its recent games.

Dude its a bad thing... every year. If you watch soccer, you know what the teams are going to look like, and what players should be able to do certain things. If you buy the new version each year(which is nonsense), then you know that additions that have been made, that are for the good and for the bad. The problem with Gears is that its not a sports title, and people expect more than a 6 hour experience(well they should). They should not be EXPECTING the SAME THING.. but with a TAD bit of UPGRADES, that at the END of 6 HOURS like a SPORTS GAME, there is NO STORY, NO REASON to PLAY managers mode AGAIN, and you've MASTERED the game SO EASILY since its basically the same as the previous. THAT when you go online you practically start right where you left off.

Fifa 09 is really good this year, lots of great improvement. haven't played pro evo for this year yet. AC Milan!!!

So you hated God of War 2?

Nope, replayed it 2.5 times. You can't even compare the two, that game is just bad"bum". I mean i pop it in sometimes just to screw around with enemies, and fight bosses. I didn't hate Gears 1 even though it had sucky A.I; i'll just rent Gears 2 this time. Beat it in a day or two and then lend it to a couple of my buddies who will beat it even quicker.

lol, nice try but nowhere near as noticable as a car being glued to the ground.killzowned24

Educate yourself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFh2yqe8NQg

Let's be real here. a simple hand grenade (most games probably use the M67 type frag grenade), not the one in this video, but it's more effective on vehicles than the simple "frag" we have in mind.

A grenade hardly exerts enough force to really move an entire vehicle. Armored or not. Placement of the frag could change that up, maybe nudge the car up if it blew up on one of the corners, hit a car while it was moving (but in Gears none of them are moving) and maybe the car was flying dow, causing the momentum of the car from speeding to be thrown around a bit.

Yet really, if you threw a grenade near a car, you'd find shrapnel holes and maybe a whole in the car or broken glass, that's about it. In fact "frag" grenades are mean to cause damage from the shrapnel it exerts, the force would definitely kill you if it blew up in your face or something, but it's the shrapnel that's expelled that's the deadly "force" here, and shrapnel that small will not be moving or sending cars flying. I'm sorry it just won't. It may be a video game, but a bit of realism never hurt either, right?

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]lol, nice try but nowhere near as noticable as a car being glued to the ground.yoshi_64

Educate yourself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFh2yqe8NQg

Let's be real here. a simple hand grenade (most games probably use the M67 type frag grenade, not the one in this video, but it's more effective on vehicles than the simpel "frag" we have in mind.

A grenade hardly exerts enough force to really move an entire vehicle. Armored or not. Placement of the frag could change that up, maybe nudge the car up if it blew up on one of the corners, hit a car while it was moving (but in Gears none of them are moving) and maybe the car was flying dow, causing the momentum of the car from speeding to be thrown around a bit.

Yet really, if you threw a grenade near a car, you'd find shrapnel holes and maybe a whole in the car or broken glass, that's about it. In fact "frag" grenades are mean to cause damage from the shrapnel it exerts, the force would definitely kill you if it blew up in your face or something, but it's the shrapnel that's expelled that's the deadly "force" here, and shrapnel that small will not be moving or sending cars flying. I'm sorry it just won't. It may be a video game, but a bit of realism never hurt either, right?

Education is welcomed, but that is bad for the soldiers. How would they defend against that?

I am mighty pissed, how do civilians get their hands on that stuff.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] you think they would show that, all i see is chipping of walls and trees being hit by a on rails part.yoshi_64

Resistance 1 has breakable cover that breaks peice by peice and doesnt vanish and still has physics to the seperate broken parts:)

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]lol, nice try but nowhere near as noticable as a car being glued to the ground.Adrian_Cloud

Educate yourself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFh2yqe8NQg

Let's be real here. a simple hand grenade (most games probably use the M67 type frag grenade, not the one in this video, but it's more effective on vehicles than the simpel "frag" we have in mind.

A grenade hardly exerts enough force to really move an entire vehicle. Armored or not. Placement of the frag could change that up, maybe nudge the car up if it blew up on one of the corners, hit a car while it was moving (but in Gears none of them are moving) and maybe the car was flying dow, causing the momentum of the car from speeding to be thrown around a bit.

Yet really, if you threw a grenade near a car, you'd find shrapnel holes and maybe a whole in the car or broken glass, that's about it. In fact "frag" grenades are mean to cause damage from the shrapnel it exerts, the force would definitely kill you if it blew up in your face or something, but it's the shrapnel that's expelled that's the deadly "force" here, and shrapnel that small will not be moving or sending cars flying. I'm sorry it just won't. It may be a video game, but a bit of realism never hurt either, right?

Education is welcomed, but that is bad for the soldiers. How would they defend against that?

I am mighty pissed, how do civilians get their hands on that stuff.

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] you think they would show that, all i see is chipping of walls and trees being hit by a on rails part.killzowned24

Resistance 1 has breakable cover that breaks peice by peice and doesnt vanish and still has physics to the seperate broken parts:)

So equation still stands. :D

How many sequels radically changed the fundamental of a previous game? Sure you get a few things thrown in, maybe a new gameplay element here or there, tweaks, and viola. You don't want to stray too far from the faithful design, because you're risking losing your fans that loved the original design so much. yoshi_64

Example: Super Mario 64 to Super Mario Sunshine.

But Resident Evil 4 nailed it!

Also, if I liked the first game, I wouldn't mind, but I personally thought it was painfully mediocre. I'll still play it a lot because my friends play it all the time, and I am forced to play it with them. :|

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="yoshi_64"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] you think they would show that, all i see is chipping of walls and trees being hit by a on rails part.yoshi_64

Resistance 1 has breakable cover that breaks peice by peice and doesnt vanish and still has physics to the seperate broken parts:)

So equation still stands. :D

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] you think they would show that, all i see is chipping of walls and trees being hit by a on rails part.killzowned24

Resistance 1 has breakable cover that breaks peice by peice and doesnt vanish and still has physics to the seperate broken parts:)

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="yoshi_64"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] you think they would show that, all i see is chipping of walls and trees being hit by a on rails part.Vaasman

Resistance 1 has breakable cover that breaks peice by peice and doesnt vanish and still has physics to the seperate broken parts:)

no, it just proves how overrated the game was:)

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="yoshi_64"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] you think they would show that, all i see is chipping of walls and trees being hit by a on rails part.killzowned24

Resistance 1 has breakable cover that breaks peice by peice and doesnt vanish and still has physics to the seperate broken parts:)

So equation still stands. :D

Also nice to see you submit to the other point. Cars needing to move around from simple frags pretty much is just not "real" amirite? ;)

why should Epic competely change the idea they had for the first game when it was a huge success?

"the core gameplay is close to a carbon copy of the original, right down to the split level design paths for co-op. If you hated GoW1, you'll hate this."

now why on earth would Epic even THINK about changing this? the core gameplay was what fans of the first game loved about gears of war in the first place :? sounds to me people expected the sequel to be a entirely new game like MGS3 to MGS4

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]and yet Gears 1 outscored and outsold it. I guess physics aren't really everything huh?killzowned24

no, it just proves how overrated the game was:)

How do you even live with yourself?

EVERY ONE of you complaining about GeoW2 being the same MUST share the same complaints for games like GoW2 and the like. Just trying to prevent any double standards floating around here.Kritical_Strike

Most of the good posters are banned. All that is left are people who lie. I dont even think most of them even care about the issue we are discussing, they just want to bash anything that is not in a console they own. On topic Gears2 will be one of the best if not THE best game released this year. I have GTa4 and and MGS4 so save it.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="yoshi_64"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="yoshi_64"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] you think they would show that, all i see is chipping of walls and trees being hit by a on rails part.yoshi_64

Resistance 1 has breakable cover that breaks peice by peice and doesnt vanish and still has physics to the seperate broken parts:)

So equation still stands. :D

Also nice to see you submit to the other point. Cars needing to move around from simple frags pretty much is just not "real" amirite? ;)

wow a couch with the same goofy physics as dead people that flying around with no weight.

[QUOTE="Vaasman"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="yoshi_64"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] you think they would show that, all i see is chipping of walls and trees being hit by a on rails part.killzowned24

Resistance 1 has breakable cover that breaks peice by peice and doesnt vanish and still has physics to the seperate broken parts:)

no, it just proves how overrated the game was:)

Thanks for playing, buh-bye! Rawr!

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]and yet Gears 1 outscored and outsold it. I guess physics aren't really everything huh?Vaasman

no, it just proves how overrated the game was:)

How do you even live with yourself?

why do you even bother trying to have a debate with him?

besides...that law has been in the system wars board for years(since last generation) any xbox/xbox360 game is successful saleswise and/or scores 9+ ..it's givin the label"overrated" im sure anyone that was around system wars board last generation would agree with this..

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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]the game looks the same, even the cars are still glued to the ground with no physis like the 1st.:lol:killzowned24

How's HAZE treating you?

what? so blowing up a car like cod4 or Resistance looks dumb?...get real, cars glued to the ground look dumb.

You are right, it'll be a horrible game. /sarcasm

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