Gears 2 Act 1 Review - Close to A CARBON COPY of Gears 1 Campaign

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="yoshi_64"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="yoshi_64"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] you think they would show that, all i see is chipping of walls and trees being hit by a on rails part.killzowned24

Resistance 1 has breakable cover that breaks peice by peice and doesnt vanish and still has physics to the seperate broken parts:)

So equation still stands. :D

Also nice to see you submit to the other point. Cars needing to move around from simple frags pretty much is just not "real" amirite? ;)

wow a couch with the same goofy physics as dead people that flying around with no weight.

Thoug, if you really want to start getting into realism here, then I suggest you stop playing video games. Resistance physics are not anymore real than any other action game that over exaggerates on them, because in real life. Bodies don't fly about when a frag goes near them. Bodies don't fly when a shot gun hits them with it's pelts, rather... bodies don't fly off when shot, they usually drop to the ground.

Yeah, sorry it's true. Video games over exaggerate physics, so why should we care for realism? It's not really satisfying, when seeing a warthog fly ten meters high in the sky from a rocket launcher, bodies fly backwards from a shotgun blast, and all the other manner of exaggerations we see in movies and video games these days.

I'm still amazed that people expect a completely different game out of a sequel. Take a look at God of War 2. Basically the same game, but with a few things added, and some gameplay tweaks. That's usually what a sequel is. It's laughable that people spin "same ol', same ol'" into a negative, then crap on something when it does change. There's no winning for these developers. But I'm sure the sales and reviews will slap all negative criticism in the face.

BioShockOwnz

Why God of War 2 from all the other games? just because it is from the other camp or something? are you trying to make your opinion as a fact again? GOD2 didn't offer the same old same experience, it deserved the AAA status because it offered a different experience than the previous installment unlike DMC 4, NG 2...etc.

If you want a debate over God of War 2, Im all for it because I think you don't know what are you talking about here.

Im not saying GeOW 2 is going to be more of the same, this is only Act 1, we don't know about the whole game yet, if only Act 1 is more of the same just to make us get the feeling we are playing Gears Of war then be yet.

[QUOTE="Vaasman"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]and yet Gears 1 outscored and outsold it. I guess physics aren't really everything huh?lawlessx

no, it just proves how overrated the game was:)

How do you even live with yourself?

why do you even bother trying to have a debate with him?

besides...that law has been in the system wars board for years(since last generation) any xbox/xbox360 game is successful saleswise and/or scores 9+ ..it's givin the label"overrated" im sure anyone that was around system wars board last generation would agree with this..

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I'm still amazed that people expect a completely different game out of a sequel. Take a look at God of War 2. Basically the same game, but with a few things added, and some gameplay tweaks. That's usually what a sequel is. It's laughable that people spin "same ol', same ol'" into a negative, then crap on something when it does change. There's no winning for these developers. But I'm sure the sales and reviews will slap all negative criticism in the face.

HAZE-Unit

Why God of War 2 from all the other games? just because it is from the other camp or something? are you trying to make your opinion as a fact again? GOD2 didn't offer the same old same experience, it deserved the AAA status because it offered a different experience than the previous installment unlike DMC 4, NG 2...etc.

If you want a debate over God of War 2, Im all for it because I think you don't know what are you talking about here.

Im not saying GeOW 2 is going to be more of the same, this is only Act 1, we don't know about the whole game yet, if only Act 1 is more of the same just to make us get the feeling we are playing Gears Of war then be yet.

you competely misunderstood his point..which is that god of war 2 still had the core gameplay the first god of war had...which is the complaint that was made in this review. nothing from his post's show's his general opinion about the game itself.

I'm still amazed that people expect a completely different game out of a sequel. Take a look at God of War 2. Basically the same game, but with a few things added, and some gameplay tweaks. That's usually what a sequel is. It's laughable that people spin "same ol', same ol'" into a negative, then crap on something when it does change. There's no winning for these developers. But I'm sure the sales and reviews will slap all negative criticism in the face.

BioShockOwnz

QFT %100.

These guys don't know what they are talking about. Oh well, All I wanted from Gears was more game time! So I will definitely enjoy this baby. :)

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Vaasman"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]Vaasman

How do you even live with yourself?

why do you even bother trying to have a debate with him?

besides...that law has been in the system wars board for years(since last generation) any xbox/xbox360 game is successful saleswise and/or scores 9+ ..it's givin the label"overrated" im sure anyone that was around system wars board last generation would agree with this..

i've learned to ignore fakeboys..

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I'm still amazed that people expect a completely different game out of a sequel. Take a look at God of War 2. Basically the same game, but with a few things added, and some gameplay tweaks. That's usually what a sequel is. It's laughable that people spin "same ol', same ol'" into a negative, then crap on something when it does change. There's no winning for these developers. But I'm sure the sales and reviews will slap all negative criticism in the face.

HAZE-Unit

Why God of War 2 from all the other games? just because it is from the other camp or something? are you trying to make your opinion as a fact again? GOD2 didn't offer the same old same experience, it deserved the AAA status because it offered a different experience than the previous installment unlike DMC 4, NG 2...etc.

If you want a debate over God of War 2, Im all for it because I think you don't know what are you talking about here.

Im not saying GeOW 2 is going to be more of the same, this is only Act 1, we don't know about the whole game yet, if only Act 1 is more of the same just to make us get the feeling we are playing Gears Of war then be yet.

God of War 2 shares as much with God of War 1 as Ninja Gaiden 2 shares with Ninja Gaiden. But a proper reproduction of an exceptional experience provided by one game remains exceptional in other games if it's done well enough. Ninja Gaiden 2's problems largely stem from lack of polish, not from poor mechanics.

I largely agree with Bioshock's views. It worked with Halo. It worked with Burnout. It worked with God of War 2. And there's a good chance it'll work here.

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I'm still amazed that people expect a completely different game out of a sequel. Take a look at God of War 2. Basically the same game, but with a few things added, and some gameplay tweaks. That's usually what a sequel is. It's laughable that people spin "same ol', same ol'" into a negative, then crap on something when it does change. There's no winning for these developers. But I'm sure the sales and reviews will slap all negative criticism in the face.

lawlessx

Why God of War 2 from all the other games? just because it is from the other camp or something? are you trying to make your opinion as a fact again? GOD2 didn't offer the same old same experience, it deserved the AAA status because it offered a different experience than the previous installment unlike DMC 4, NG 2...etc.

If you want a debate over God of War 2, Im all for it because I think you don't know what are you talking about here.

Im not saying GeOW 2 is going to be more of the same, this is only Act 1, we don't know about the whole game yet, if only Act 1 is more of the same just to make us get the feeling we are playing Gears Of war then be yet.

you competely misunderstood his point..which is that god of war 2 still had the core gameplay the first god of war had...which is the complaint that was made in this review. nothing from his post's show's his general opinion about the game itself.

Well he just generalized and said about GOD2 the following "Basically the same game" which is not true.

TC why do you only focus on the bad? too_much_eslim

He had a though childhood...

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I'm still amazed that people expect a completely different game out of a sequel. Take a look at God of War 2. Basically the same game, but with a few things added, and some gameplay tweaks. That's usually what a sequel is. It's laughable that people spin "same ol', same ol'" into a negative, then crap on something when it does change. There's no winning for these developers. But I'm sure the sales and reviews will slap all negative criticism in the face.

sonicmj1

Why God of War 2 from all the other games? just because it is from the other camp or something? are you trying to make your opinion as a fact again? GOD2 didn't offer the same old same experience, it deserved the AAA status because it offered a different experience than the previous installment unlike DMC 4, NG 2...etc.

If you want a debate over God of War 2, Im all for it because I think you don't know what are you talking about here.

Im not saying GeOW 2 is going to be more of the same, this is only Act 1, we don't know about the whole game yet, if only Act 1 is more of the same just to make us get the feeling we are playing Gears Of war then be yet.

God of War 2 shares as much with God of War 1 as Ninja Gaiden 2 shares with Ninja Gaiden. But a proper reproduction of an exceptional experience provided by one game remains exceptional in other games if it's done well enough. Ninja Gaiden 2's problems largely stem from lack of polish, not from poor mechanics.

I largely agree with Bioshock's views. It worked with Halo. It worked with Burnout. It worked with God of War 2. And there's a good chance it'll work here.

Yea it will work well for GeOW2 if we are talking about core gameplay only, however, if what he is saying is true about the same corridors scale and such things, that worries me though, I don't want to play in the same environments twice.

This is a quote:

we found ourselves sticking to pretty much the one gun throughout - so it looks like no new tactical depth has snuck into the arcade action.

Look that is worrying too, I hated the lack of depth in weapons, the gun that works only under the sunlight ( I forgot the name of the gun lol) was cool, we want more tactical weapons.

It's funny seeing people ragging on Gears in this thread yet defending that mediocre pile known as resistence.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I'm still amazed that people expect a completely different game out of a sequel. Take a look at God of War 2. Basically the same game, but with a few things added, and some gameplay tweaks. That's usually what a sequel is. It's laughable that people spin "same ol', same ol'" into a negative, then crap on something when it does change. There's no winning for these developers. But I'm sure the sales and reviews will slap all negative criticism in the face.

HAZE-Unit

Why God of War 2 from all the other games? just because it is from the other camp or something? are you trying to make your opinion as a fact again? GOD2 didn't offer the same old same experience, it deserved the AAA status because it offered a different experience than the previous installment unlike DMC 4, NG 2...etc.

If you want a debate over God of War 2, Im all for it because I think you don't know what are you talking about here.

Im not saying GeOW 2 is going to be more of the same, this is only Act 1, we don't know about the whole game yet, if only Act 1 is more of the same just to make us get the feeling we are playing Gears Of war then be yet.

you competely misunderstood his point..which is that god of war 2 still had the core gameplay the first god of war had...which is the complaint that was made in this review. nothing from his post's show's his general opinion about the game itself.

Well he just generalized and said about GOD2 the following "Basically the same game" which is not true.

did you read what he said right after that? god of war 2 share's the same core gameplay as god of war with things added. that doesn't not mean the game wasn't an improvement to the first one.

its supposed to be longer then gears 1, which is good enough for me

as for the carbon copy stuff, i ask...so?

if it ain't broke, don't fix it. after gears 2 (or maybe 3), then epic should worry about changing the mold, but until that, more of the same is what fans want

REforever101

if its meant to be longer than gears 1, and gears 2 is now expected to be 5 - 6 hours long, how long was gears 1? im not bagging the game, i played a bit of it on pc, it just go to boring for me and i needed the space for other games that interested me more. but it was pretty good, so im just asking that. and any company would want more people playing their game, they would want more people buying it - wouldnt you say?

so they have to somehow bring in more fans.

this is sounded like god of war 2, but in that i actually liked using the other weapons - though i did stick to the blades for the majority of the game. and gears is even better because of the guns - *sniff* guns are cool!:P lol. hopefully the weapons in gears 2 are new and interesting (with that said - that is why i love ratchet and clank and resistance - great different weapons to MOST other games)

side note: WOOT OCTOBER!! FALLOUT 3!!! YAY!!!!

It's funny seeing people ragging on Gears in this thread yet defending that mediocre pile known as resistence.

Donkey_Puncher

yea but so far i havnt heard a review of resistance 2 saying its the same as the 1st - AND its longer by maybe 1 hour.(some1 say gears1 = 5 hours, gears 2 =5 to 6. yay) and in resistance you tend to use more then 1 weapon, you dont stick to one through out the game - its jsut to much fun with the others)

Also, water is a liquid.fatzebra

I don't believe you :O

I'm still amazed that people expect a completely different game out of a sequel. Take a look at God of War 2. Basically the same game, but with a few things added, and some gameplay tweaks. That's usually what a sequel is. It's laughable that people spin "same ol', same ol'" into a negative, then crap on something when it does change. There's no winning for these developers. But I'm sure the sales and reviews will slap all negative criticism in the face.

BioShockOwnz

Resistance 1 --> 2?, Also even though little is changed in the GEOW series it has one of the best single player experiences ever.

[QUOTE="naval"]

changing a game whoose main draw for most people was its open-ended nature into a much more linear shooter, is it really more of the same ? :roll: (not everyone even liked these changes - pc gamer uk gave crysis warhead 60 although they gave the original 92 )

Dante2710

How is it not helping me ? my point was warhead has made serious changes that shows. and yeah while many people who like the original didn't liked it this time around, more people who disliked the original liked this one

I'm still amazed that people expect a completely different game out of a sequel. Take a look at God of War 2. Basically the same game, but with a few things added, and some gameplay tweaks. That's usually what a sequel is. It's laughable that people spin "same ol', same ol'" into a negative, then crap on something when it does change. There's no winning for these developers. But I'm sure the sales and reviews will slap all negative criticism in the face.

BioShockOwnz

[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Imagine Valve changing Half-Life because the Unreal Tournament crowd found reasons to "hate it" that still remain in the next Half-Life game :|

Dreams-Visions

well valve does need to shake up the hl formula a bit .. it has become too much of the same, what they should not change is the storytelling styIe of the game

You don't go to Gears of War looking for Rainbow 6 gameplay experiences.

You don't go to Mario Galaxy looking for Ratchet & Clank experiences.

You don't go to NFL Blitz for a madden experience.

and you don't complain about that either. all the TCs article did was whine about the things that people who bought the game really don't care about anyway. it will sell millions. people will love it. the end.

my point here is if things are always keep the same they start becoming stale nad half life series is a prefect example of that. the series gameplay feels a bit and it's main part is its well told story. So they can change the game, improve it however they like but still keep the core part same i.e, brilliant set pieces and well told story.

See another exmaple, mario galaxy had a nice change from the earlier games while the core mechanics were the same

But those my thoughts, if you want the same over and over again, good for you

I love GOW and I'm buying GOW2 on day one. I don't know how people can resist. It isn't some lame PC game or a cheesy PS3 game or a Wii game that has about the same excitement level of cell phone games on my Blackberry.FFXIII360

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I'm still amazed that people expect a completely different game out of a sequel. Take a look at God of War 2. Basically the same game, but with a few things added, and some gameplay tweaks. That's usually what a sequel is. It's laughable that people spin "same ol', same ol'" into a negative, then crap on something when it does change. There's no winning for these developers. But I'm sure the sales and reviews will slap all negative criticism in the face.

stereointegrity

The Voice acting in gears of war is superb, people might not like the script but the voice acting is perfect. And the story is supposed to improve in gears 2, theres a change right away. The fact the original poster concentrated on the bad and nothing else proves hes not going to like the game, no matter what.

Gears 2 will be as perfect to me as gears 1 and that's all that matters.

[QUOTE="FFXIII360"]I love GOW and I'm buying GOW2 on day one. I don't know how people can resist. It isn't some lame PC game or a cheesy PS3 game or a Wii game that has about the same excitement level of cell phone games on my Blackberry.stereointegrity

No, you?

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I'm still amazed that people expect a completely different game out of a sequel. Take a look at God of War 2. Basically the same game, but with a few things added, and some gameplay tweaks. That's usually what a sequel is. It's laughable that people spin "same ol', same ol'" into a negative, then crap on something when it does change. There's no winning for these developers. But I'm sure the sales and reviews will slap all negative criticism in the face.

HAZE-Unit

Why God of War 2 from all the other games? just because it is from the other camp or something? are you trying to make your opinion as a fact again? GOD2 didn't offer the same old same experience, it deserved the AAA status because it offered a different experience than the previous installment unlike DMC 4, NG 2...etc.

If you want a debate over God of War 2, Im all for it because I think you don't know what are you talking about here.

Im not saying GeOW 2 is going to be more of the same, this is only Act 1, we don't know about the whole game yet, if only Act 1 is more of the same just to make us get the feeling we are playing Gears Of war then be yet.

God of War 2 shares as much with God of War 1 as Ninja Gaiden 2 shares with Ninja Gaiden. But a proper reproduction of an exceptional experience provided by one game remains exceptional in other games if it's done well enough. Ninja Gaiden 2's problems largely stem from lack of polish, not from poor mechanics.

I largely agree with Bioshock's views. It worked with Halo. It worked with Burnout. It worked with God of War 2. And there's a good chance it'll work here.

Yea it will work well for GeOW2 if we are talking about core gameplay only, however, if what he is saying is true about the same corridors scale and such things, that worries me though, I don't want to play in the same environments twice.

This is a quote:

we found ourselves sticking to pretty much the one gun throughout - so it looks like no new tactical depth has snuck into the arcade action.

Look that is worrying too, I hated the lack of depth in weapons, the gun that works only under the sunlight ( I forgot the name of the gun lol) was cool, we want more tactical weapons.

Hammer of Dawn I think is the name.

As for the length, to be honest Gears had good length because the game was a bit repetitive for my taste.

And if they had done something different, you would be complaining why they changed the game.

There is no pleasing you people.

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]Sounds like another grapics whore shooter that will be overated and sell well.Stevo_the_gamer

what? who cares about the single player anyway...diped

Plenty of people.

since i really enjoyed the first game, if they didnt change much then surely i'll enjoy the sequel...

Its really getting annoying all these threads regarding Geow2 & Resistance2 being created solely for bashing... am sure both will be great games... both will have their strenghts and weaknesses.... both will have intersting gameplay additions.... both will have great online... Bottom line, those who get to play both games will enjoy 2 amazing titles..

Also, water is a liquid.fatzebra

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]the game looks the same, even the cars are still glued to the ground with no physis like the 1st.:lol:killzowned24

How's HAZE treating you?

what? so blowing up a car like cod4 or Resistance looks dumb?...get real, cars glued to the ground look dumb.

Wanna try that one again? My point was that worrying about car physics in this game completely sidesteps the premise or purpose of the gameplay in it.

Then again, your purpose was to denigrate Gears of War for any possible reason. So of all reasons, you chose...cars. :|

Enjoy Resistance man. Enjoy Call of Duty 4. I sure do.

And never forget that Gears of War outscored them both. And there's nothing you can do to change it.

cars that dont move because they are glued to the ground looks lame.

gears is a fail.

If Gears of War is fail, then Resistance and Killzone are hyper fail, because Gears of War both outsold and outscored them, meaning it was a more sucessful game. Killzone and Resistance hyper mega fail, in your opinion, then, confirmed.

This taken from IGN

"Ultimately, while Gears of War 2 tinkers little with the original's formula, it pushes every part of the original package to even more epic realms. A blockbuster in every sense of the word, it's undoubtedly the biggest and boldest game coming to the Xbox 360 this winter. "

Sounds good to me.......TC just sounds like a bitter PC fanboy.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/914/914186p2.html

This taken from IGN

"Ultimately, while Gears of War 2 tinkers little with the original's formula, it pushes every part of the original package to even more epic realms. A blockbuster in every sense of the word, it's undoubtedly the biggest and boldest game coming to the Xbox 360 this winter. "

Sounds good to me.......TC just sounds like a bitter PC fanboy.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/914/914186p2.html

robflores370

Exactly, a harsh, weeping PC fanboy who has nothing better to do than bashing this blockbuster for the reason that it's not coming to PC... Laughable.

There is no way Gears of war will flop, as it is a really great game. I dont play on my 360 anymore but I the 360 game I miss the most is Gears of War.

I am even concidering buying a new 360 just for this game.

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]Sounds like another grapics whore shooter that will be overated and sell well.Stevo_the_gamer

Actually, Warhead is underated if anything and we're not even sure how it has sold yet.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I'm still amazed that people expect a completely different game out of a sequel. Take a look at God of War 2. Basically the same game, but with a few things added, and some gameplay tweaks. That's usually what a sequel is. It's laughable that people spin "same ol', same ol'" into a negative, then crap on something when it does change. There's no winning for these developers. But I'm sure the sales and reviews will slap all negative criticism in the face.

HAZE-Unit

Why God of War 2 from all the other games? just because it is from the other camp or something? are you trying to make your opinion as a fact again? GOD2 didn't offer the same old same experience, it deserved the AAA status because it offered a different experience than the previous installment unlike DMC 4, NG 2...etc.

If you want a debate over God of War 2, Im all for it because I think you don't know what are you talking about here.

Im not saying GeOW 2 is going to be more of the same, this is only Act 1, we don't know about the whole game yet, if only Act 1 is more of the same just to make us get the feeling we are playing Gears Of war then be yet.

Did you even read what he wrote? He did not say 1 ill word towards GOW2 he said it shares the same formula.

Sounds to me you were just looking for a reason to pick a fight with Bioshock. :roll:

Also, water is a liquid.fatzebra

Lies! Water is H20.

its no news that devs 'dont fix what ain't broken'..... i wouldnt like geow2 being completely different from geow1, gameplay wise.. obviously some fresh gameplay touches are welcome but since i loved the first game i would like the sequel to keep the best elements intact...

If Epic had in mind to completely change the way geow2 plays / looks etc, then I would rather have them work on a new IP rather than on Geow2... Luckily they are keeping the good things that made goew1 a great game...

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]I love Gears of War..played through the campaign about 5 times; 200 hours in the multiplayer...My heart is pretty much set as to how good it will be. So if your trying to convey sameness, thank you, you have just solidified my hopes even more..Dreams-Visions

100% YES.

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="yoshi_64"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="yoshi_64"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] you think they would show that, all i see is chipping of walls and trees being hit by a on rails part.killzowned24

Resistance 1 has breakable cover that breaks peice by peice and doesnt vanish and still has physics to the seperate broken parts:)

So equation still stands. :D

Also nice to see you submit to the other point. Cars needing to move around from simple frags pretty much is just not "real" amirite? ;)

wow a couch with the same goofy physics as dead people that flying around with no weight.

[QUOTE="Brainhunter"]

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]Why would they want to drastically change what so many people enjoyed?BioShockOwnz

Nothing wrong with that : the problem lies in the fact that "some" GeOW fanboys have conceded that the sequel will not only surpass the original, but trump all other GOTY candidates in 2008.

Sorry folks, a sequel rarely gets a GOTY achievement if all it does is recycle the assets it has already worked on the last iteration. GOTY, to me, remains as an award for revolutionary games, and while GeOW2 may seem like a great high quality game in its own right, it definitely is not "revolutionary". Leave the GOTY medal to games that actually move gaming "forward" this gen.

MGS4 is often touted as the "GOTY '08", but it really didn't revolutionize or move gaming forward, either. I can only think of Left 4 Dead, Spore, LBP, and MAYBE Banjo-Kazooie: N&B doing that.

Dang, I sure wish Cliffy would have done something different for the sequel like making unique Vehicles using hundreds of unique parts you find throughout the game then use those vehicles to jump and fly to Platforms in the level. :twisted:

But nooooo, he just made improvements to an already winning formula. :P