Giant Bomb says PC gaming is dying

Ryan Davis, not Jeff, was the one who made the blatantly wrong comment...

He complained about 1 hour installs(which is BS), constant patching(again... BS), and constantly updating drivers(yet again... BS).

Most installs are 10 minute MAYBE. Patching practically does itself these days, and if it doesn't it takes like 5 minutes to do. Same with drivers...

Thing is, Ryan also said he though Company of Heroes could be done on consoles... Thankfully, the only informed one there, Brad, said "Hell no! I still haven't even learned all the controls and gotten a grip on it on the M+KB, screw thinking about trying it on a controller."

They just seemed largely uninformed and foreign to PC gaming. Which is fine I guess..

horrowhip

Vs, what? Console games except for the PS3 has no install, auto patching, and auto console updates. Overall, consoles are a more streamlined experience. There are ways to get around that, and thats steam and he did mention that, but for other stuff it can be a huge hassle compared to consoles.

[QUOTE="New-Gamer"]

Jeff Gerstmann, Ryan Davis, Brad Shoemaker, and Vinny Caravella make up GiantBomb at this point. In my opinion, they are some of the best minds the gaming community has to offer. They all have different opinions and really truly know the industry. They know it far better than anyone on here could hope to.

vicmackey39

They are boring has beens

alex and greg were the only 2 good journalists this site ever had (and they were great). Jeff Gerstmann is the most fail videogame journalist in history

Ok, Greg and Alex are both very good friends of Jeff Gerstmann and share his views. Alex works for Harmonix and Greg works as Executive Producer at EALA.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]isnt this the guy that said Halo Wars will be better than Starcraft 2?Kez1984

Someone actully said that?

seriously?!? is that even legal to say tht Halo wars will be better then SC2?!

Ok, Greg and Alex are both very good friends of Jeff Gerstmann and share his views. Alex works for Harmonix and Greg works as Executive Producer at EALA.

New-Gamer

They don't share his views at all. Greg is an MBA who wrote some fantastic reviews and ushered in a new era with video reviews. Ryan Davies is a cool young dude with some genuine enthusiasm for games

Jeff is a middle aged overweight man who is well past his prime (both professionally and physically). He is a wannabe hipster with incredibly poor taste (IMO)

he's an ok writer though, although a little unprofessional

[QUOTE="New-Gamer"]

Ok, Greg and Alex are both very good friends of Jeff Gerstmann and share his views. Alex works for Harmonix and Greg works as Executive Producer at EALA.

vicmackey39

They don't share his views at all. Greg is an MBA who wrote some fantastic reviews and ushered in a new era with video reviews. Ryan Davies is a cool young dude with some genuine enthusiasm for games

Jeff is a middle aged overweight man who is well past his prime (both professionally and physically). He is a wannabe hipster with incredibly poor taste (IMO)

he's an ok writer though, although a little unprofessional

He's more entertaining then most of the "new" Gamespot staff team. Yes that was a shot at you Gamespot, we want more personallity, so far the only people that have done that are Kevin, Brian, and in some cases the people behind the scenes such as Tor and Brendon.

[QUOTE="New-Gamer"]

Ok, Greg and Alex are both very good friends of Jeff Gerstmann and share his views. Alex works for Harmonix and Greg works as Executive Producer at EALA.

vicmackey39

They don't share his views at all. Greg is an MBA who wrote some fantastic reviews and ushered in a new era with video reviews. Ryan Davies is a cool young dude with some genuine enthusiasm for games

Jeff is a middle aged overweight man who is well past his prime (both professionally and physically). He is a wannabe hipster with incredibly poor taste (IMO)

he's an ok writer though, although a little unprofessional

Do they want people to visit their site???

First the RE4 thing and now this? WTF

[QUOTE="Kez1984"]

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]isnt this the guy that said Halo Wars will be better than Starcraft 2?Peaches1347

Someone actully said that?

seriously?!? is that even legal to say tht Halo wars will be better then SC2?!

No. No it's not. He should be arrested immediatly.

[QUOTE="Peaches1347"][QUOTE="Kez1984"]

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]isnt this the guy that said Halo Wars will be better than Starcraft 2?Heydanbud92

Someone actully said that?

seriously?!? is that even legal to say tht Halo wars will be better then SC2?!

No. No it's not. He should be arrested immediatly.

Maybe? It will be better in all aspects. I can envision a future where hermits will be bowing down just so that they can afford the 360 so they can get a taste of Halo Wars.CherryShooter

And

Starflop copied HaloCherryShooter

>_>

[QUOTE="Heydanbud92"][QUOTE="Peaches1347"][QUOTE="Kez1984"]

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]isnt this the guy that said Halo Wars will be better than Starcraft 2?PannicAtack

Someone actully said that?

seriously?!? is that even legal to say tht Halo wars will be better then SC2?!

No. No it's not. He should be arrested immediatly.

Maybe? It will be better in all aspects. I can envision a future where hermits will be bowing down just so that they can afford the 360 so they can get a taste of Halo Wars.CherryShooter

And

Starflop copied HaloCherryShooter

>_>

How could Hermits not afford 360s since we own "$5000 PCs"? :?

Wow these guys are seriously console fanboys :? after i fast forwarded the first 40 mins of chat about mountain dew and a doritos flavored coke, they started talking about portal and then they went on about how the pc is only good for MMO's and RTS's, Jeff said he prefer to play Farcry2 with a gamepad WTH!!?? also said Company of heroes could get prefectly ported to consoles :?.

I lost the very little respect i had left for Jeff and Ryan they r just so biased jesus, the only person with some reason in that podcast was Brad S.

Wow these guys are seriously console fanboys :? after i fast forwarded the first 40 mins of chat about mountain dew and a doritos flavored coke, they started talking about portal and then they went on about how the pc is only good for MMO's and RTS's, Jeff said he prefer to play Farcry2 with a gamepad WTH!!?? also said Company of heroes could get prefectly ported to consoles :?.

I lost the very little respect i had left for Jeff and Ryan they r just so biased jesus, the only person with some reason in that podcast was Brad S.

TanKLoveR

Baised and they own every single video game system (Litterally)?

and people wonder why jeff gerstmann got fired

terrible journalist

vicmackey39

isnt this the guy that said Halo Wars will be better than Starcraft 2?cobrax75

Personally I think he is a horrible reviewer. the 9.5 Halo 3 vs. 8.5 MP3:C (I know this wasn't jeff but it shows other reviewers are more tough than him) is completely nuts. peaceful_anger gives a good argument, against a mod!

[QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

and people wonder why jeff gerstmann got fired

terrible journalist

darkIink

isnt this the guy that said Halo Wars will be better than Starcraft 2?cobrax75

Personally I think he is a horrible reviewer. the 9.5 Halo 3 vs. 8.5 MP3:C is completely nuts. peaceful_anger gives a good arguement, against a mod!

Dude get your reviewers right. MP3 was reviewed by Kevin Vanord.

I hate people that compare reviews from different people.

Giant Bomb has yet to have fourms so this will have to do.

and I dont think Jeff ever said that Halo Wars will be better than Starcraft 2.

[QUOTE="badgert"][QUOTE="PC_John"][QUOTE="CherryShooter"]

[QUOTE="PC_John"]Haven't heard this BS before:roll:.CherryShooter

you noob should change your name to console_john, better witn PC games dead and all.

Wow, just calm down...

Seriously chill with that. Why is everyone so determined to say PC games are "dead" if you hate them don't buy them but I'm content with Crysis, WiC etc :D

Im content with stealing your exclusives, while you get our console ports. crysis? Halo 3 is better universally it's rated higher, GTA4 is rater higher then ANY PC game, Halo Wars.

you dont know the meaning of content unless you get a console.

One of the most hyped console games this gen was Mass Effect...take a guess which platform it scored higher on. ;)

[QUOTE="TanKLoveR"]

Wow these guys are seriously console fanboys :? after i fast forwarded the first 40 mins of chat about mountain dew and a doritos flavored coke, they started talking about portal and then they went on about how the pc is only good for MMO's and RTS's, Jeff said he prefer to play Farcry2 with a gamepad WTH!!?? also said Company of heroes could get prefectly ported to consoles :?.

I lost the very little respect i had left for Jeff and Ryan they r just so biased jesus, the only person with some reason in that podcast was Brad S.

insanejedi

Baised and they own every single video game system (Litterally)?

They are probably the most unbiased of anyone. They see how the industry is going and they have a sixth sense for it. Having an opinion is a crime these days I've heard. Gamespot, IGN and 1UP have those too.

One of the most hyped console games this gen was Mass Effect...take a guess which platform it scored higher on. ;)VoodooGamer

[QUOTE="insanejedi"][QUOTE="TanKLoveR"]

Wow these guys are seriously console fanboys :? after i fast forwarded the first 40 mins of chat about mountain dew and a doritos flavored coke, they started talking about portal and then they went on about how the pc is only good for MMO's and RTS's, Jeff said he prefer to play Farcry2 with a gamepad WTH!!?? also said Company of heroes could get prefectly ported to consoles :?.

I lost the very little respect i had left for Jeff and Ryan they r just so biased jesus, the only person with some reason in that podcast was Brad S.

New-Gamer

Baised and they own every single video game system (Litterally)?

They are probably the most unbiased of anyone. They see how the industry is going and they have a sixth sense for it. Having an opinion is a crime these days I've heard. Gamespot, IGN and 1UP have those too.

Well first of all the way they see the industry is entirely subjective, as you probably know, Nvidia, Valve, Stardock and a host of other companies including Capcom see things differently. ;)

What is more, you're being hypocritical when you criticize another for attacking anothers opinion.

[QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]One of the most hyped console games this gen was Mass Effect...take a guess which platform it scored higher on. ;)II-FBIsniper-II

That is completely irrelavant. The fact that is scored higher on the PC then the console is what matters in this particular case.

as did I, giant bomb rules. PC gaming is dying. Hermits are nerdy men who live in their parent's basements that are in denial. I don't know anyone (and I mean ANYONE) who uses their pc as a game device other than WoW.WINDWAKER1

Enjoy ur aides!

[QUOTE="New-Gamer"][QUOTE="insanejedi"][QUOTE="TanKLoveR"]

Wow these guys are seriously console fanboys :? after i fast forwarded the first 40 mins of chat about mountain dew and a doritos flavored coke, they started talking about portal and then they went on about how the pc is only good for MMO's and RTS's, Jeff said he prefer to play Farcry2 with a gamepad WTH!!?? also said Company of heroes could get prefectly ported to consoles :?.

I lost the very little respect i had left for Jeff and Ryan they r just so biased jesus, the only person with some reason in that podcast was Brad S.

VoodooGamer

Baised and they own every single video game system (Litterally)?

They are probably the most unbiased of anyone. They see how the industry is going and they have a sixth sense for it. Having an opinion is a crime these days I've heard. Gamespot, IGN and 1UP have those too.

Well first of all the way they see the industry is entirely subjective, as you probably know, Nvidia, Valve, Stardock and a host of other companies including Capcom see things differently. ;)

What is more, you're being hypocritical when you criticize another for attacking anothers opinion.

Giantbomb is a more personalized way of how people in this field think. Do you think everyone else doesn't have their own opinion. Listen to the HotSpot or 1UPs podcast much? I mean honestly everyone is subjective. Their reviews are better written than most of the other stuff we see out there. On their bombcast, they like to be goofy and talk like they are at a bar having a good time. You can't even begin to act like the gaming press, or any press these days is objective. Just look at CNN, MSNBC, or Fox News. They all have their moments of subjectiveness.

[QUOTE="VoodooGamer"][QUOTE="New-Gamer"][QUOTE="insanejedi"][QUOTE="TanKLoveR"]

Wow these guys are seriously console fanboys :? after i fast forwarded the first 40 mins of chat about mountain dew and a doritos flavored coke, they started talking about portal and then they went on about how the pc is only good for MMO's and RTS's, Jeff said he prefer to play Farcry2 with a gamepad WTH!!?? also said Company of heroes could get prefectly ported to consoles :?.

I lost the very little respect i had left for Jeff and Ryan they r just so biased jesus, the only person with some reason in that podcast was Brad S.

New-Gamer

Baised and they own every single video game system (Litterally)?

They are probably the most unbiased of anyone. They see how the industry is going and they have a sixth sense for it. Having an opinion is a crime these days I've heard. Gamespot, IGN and 1UP have those too.

Well first of all the way they see the industry is entirely subjective, as you probably know, Nvidia, Valve, Stardock and a host of other companies including Capcom see things differently. ;)

What is more, you're being hypocritical when you criticize another for attacking anothers opinion.

Giantbomb is a more personalized way of how people in this field think. Do you think everyone else doesn't have their own opinion. Listen to the HotSpot or 1UPs podcast much? I mean honestly everyone is subjective. Their reviews are better written than most of the other stuff we see out there. On their bombcast, they like to be goofy and talk like they are at a bar having a good time. You can't even begin to act like the gaming press, or any press these days is objective. Just look at CNN, MSNBC, or Fox News. They all have their moments of subjectiveness.

I wasn't arguing that them having a subjective opinion is bad by any means, I was just pointing out that the way they see things isn't objective and thus one cannot say that they KNOW how the industry is going.

as did I, giant bomb rules. PC gaming is dying. Hermits are nerdy men who live in their parent's basements that are in denial. I don't know anyone (and I mean ANYONE) who uses their pc as a game device other than WoW.WINDWAKER1

Oh yes cuz im sure the console peasants are cool party ppl who have tons of sex all the time :lol:. Most ppl i know have of had a gaming pc at some point either they started by playing SC like me or Doom and they r no different than u or me lol(that should be really obvious). I was once a console gamer with my lovely ps2 but ever since the ps3 started sucking so bad i had to leave sony and move back to my first love PC gaming.

Oh yea i should add that i only know like 5 ppl who play Wow(26-34 year old men) and like 3 who play The Sims(girls).

[QUOTE="horrowhip"]

Ryan Davis, not Jeff, was the one who made the blatantly wrong comment...

He complained about 1 hour installs(which is BS), constant patching(again... BS), and constantly updating drivers(yet again... BS).

Most installs are 10 minute MAYBE. Patching practically does itself these days, and if it doesn't it takes like 5 minutes to do. Same with drivers...

Thing is, Ryan also said he though Company of Heroes could be done on consoles... Thankfully, the only informed one there, Brad, said "Hell no! I still haven't even learned all the controls and gotten a grip on it on the M+KB, screw thinking about trying it on a controller."

They just seemed largely uninformed and foreign to PC gaming. Which is fine I guess..

insanejedi

Vs, what? Console games except for the PS3 has no install, auto patching, and auto console updates. Overall, consoles are a more streamlined experience. There are ways to get around that, and thats steam and he did mention that, but for other stuff it can be a huge hassle compared to consoles.

Oh please, it's just as hard as searching something on google.

PC gaming dying? Bull. Five games come to mind. Halo, Halo 2, Halo Custom Edition, Counter-Strike, and Crysis.Sailor_Razor

Jeff said he prefer to play Farcry2 with a gamepad WTH!!?? TanKLoveR

GiantBomb is a website filled with review community rejects who don't even know how to properly organize a webpage.MetroidPrimePwn

Basically. Gamespot isn't much better.

[QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]GiantBomb is a website filled with review community rejects who don't even know how to properly organize a webpage.Koalakommander

Basically. Gamespot isn't much better.

The bigger rejects would be all of us who give thier site hits by posting on these absurd forums. That includes you and I.

[QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]GiantBomb is a website filled with review community rejects who don't even know how to properly organize a webpage.Koalakommander

Basically. Gamespot isn't much better.

Gamespot has better forums and a couple decent reviewers :D

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

[QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]GiantBomb is a website filled with review community rejects who don't even know how to properly organize a webpage.Andrew_Xavier

Basically. Gamespot isn't much better.

Gamespot has better forums and a couple decent reviewers :D

like... just Kevin, Brain, and Justin?

[QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"]as did I, giant bomb rules. PC gaming is dying. Hermits are nerdy men who live in their parent's basements that are in denial. I don't know anyone (and I mean ANYONE) who uses their pc as a game device other than WoW.TanKLoveR

Oh yes cuz im sure the console peasants are cool party ppl who have tons of sex all the time :lol:. Most ppl i know have of had a gaming pc at some point either they started by playing SC like me or Doom and they r no different than u or me lol(that should be really obvious). I was once a console gamer with my lovely ps2 but ever since the ps3 started sucking so bad i had to leave sony and move back to my first love PC gaming.

Oh yea i should add that i only know like 5 ppl who play Wow(26-34 year old men) and like 3 who play The Sims(girls).

dude he wont listen to u...lets just go back to our basements..too many cool ppl here... :o

isnt this the guy that said Halo Wars will be better than Starcraft 2?cobrax75

Looking at gameplay vids for both I'd say I'd have to agree. SC2 looks like more of the same with better graphics and isn't changing the formula one bit. At least Halo Wars is breaking the console RTS games are terrible barrier. I loved SC, played it countless hours but eventually it got boring, and from looking at 2 its the same damn game with graphics more akin to Warcraft 3. I think they are saying its going to be better is because Halo Wars seems fresh and SC2 seems like we waited 11 or 12 years to get a slightly upgraded game.

But isn't Giant Bomb little more than a blog site by a failed Gamespot reviewer?Senor_Kami

Why do you got to be like that?

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]isnt this the guy that said Halo Wars will be better than Starcraft 2?Ket87

Looking at gameplay vids for both I'd say I'd have to agree. SC2 looks like more of the same with better graphics and isn't changing the formula one bit. At least Halo Wars is breaking the console RTS games are terrible barrier. I loved SC, played it countless hours but eventually it got boring, and from looking at 2 its the same damn game with graphics more akin to Warcraft 3. I think they are saying its going to be better is because Halo Wars seems fresh and SC2 seems like we waited 11 or 12 years to get a slightly upgraded game.

Halo wars fresh... for someone who hasn't tryed RTS I would agree... but not when you played many. SC2 has many changes from SC... I think you need to recheck some videos.

i listen to giant bombs podcast every week. and this was for sure the first time i disagreed with them. pc gaming is far from dying. but the tc thread is very misleading. they didnt all say pc gaming was dying.

on a side note i kinda see the pc as the fourth console now. itll be like the rest of em. whole lot or multiplats with a few good exclusives.

PC gaming is far from dying. The MMO universe as well as console ports has given it a fresh shot in the arm. What's killing it is development cost and piracy.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]isnt this the guy that said Halo Wars will be better than Starcraft 2?Ket87

Looking at gameplay vids for both I'd say I'd have to agree. SC2 looks like more of the same with better graphics and isn't changing the formula one bit. At least Halo Wars is breaking the console RTS games are terrible barrier. I loved SC, played it countless hours but eventually it got boring, and from looking at 2 its the same damn game with graphics more akin to Warcraft 3. I think they are saying its going to be better is because Halo Wars seems fresh and SC2 seems like we waited 11 or 12 years to get a slightly upgraded game.

At least SC2 looks like an improvement over SC1, while Halo Wars actualy looks like a big step backwards compared to Bungie's RTSes as well as a step backwards (altough not huge) compared to Ensemble's Age of Empires 3

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]isnt this the guy that said Halo Wars will be better than Starcraft 2?Ket87

Halo Wars seems fresh

About as fresh as 1995.