Gran Turismo 5 DAMAGE GAMEPLAY!!!

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#201 zero_snake99
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From skimming it, its bad because one of the biggest differences between Forza and GT series is the inclusion of damage. The GT fans downplayed with claims of damage not being neccesary and them actually not wanting damage at all to them saying they'd enjoy GT more without the inclusion of damage. Essentially they didn't want damage.Now from reading this thread they are praising something that they initially bashed and didn't want because it was on Forza and not GT.The__Havoc
I still don't see the reason for damage. I mean, at most, you'll bump into someone, but beyond that, its just for aesthetics. Most people will drive with more than just a damaged bumper, and thats because if you get in any other accidents, you are usually screwed. When I play GT, I usually don't hit anything, so damage really isn't anything I need. Like I've said, its awesome seeing the detail these guys put into these things, but in the end, it isn't a must. Though, IMO if they want to add damage, they should either do All, or None, otherwise it just SEEMS (doesn't mean it is) half - assed.
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#202 2scoopsofempty
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[QUOTE="Delsage"][QUOTE="Nisim19"]FORZA 3 looks the same i dont see somting new here and forza 3 have damge on all car

LoL, no. Just check the detail of this game, even the metal steering wheel reflects like it's supposed to.

"details" mean nothing if the game doesn't simulate properly...
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#203 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="2scoopsofempty"][QUOTE="Delsage"][QUOTE="Nisim19"]FORZA 3 looks the same i dont see somting new here and forza 3 have damge on all car

LoL, no. Just check the detail of this game, even the metal steering wheel reflects like it's supposed to.

"details" mean nothing if the game doesn't simulate properly...

Then why did you mention looks? Gran Turismo 5, looks a lot better than Forza 3 graphically. GT5 is a great sim, its improving on Gran turismo 5 P.
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#204 neXib
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What's the point of cosmetic damage to the cars when you still bounce off the walls like Ridge Racer? It looks damn good, but let's face it, GT is for people who thinks a BMW M5 behaves the same as a Subaru Impreza. That's why most of us that used to play GT are now playing Forza, and will come October.
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#205 bleehum
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http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/857126/gran-turismo-5/videos/gcom09act_gt5_takingdamage_081909.html
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#206 LEGEND_C4A
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you guys spend way toomuch time arguing about which one is going to be better. All I see is a win, win situation here. regardless which system you have weare allgoing to get a high quality racing game. Forza 3 for me all the way, but in no way will I say anything negative of GT, that game will make any and all PS3 fans happy. :D

Enjoy everyone!

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#207 Adrian_Cloud
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http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/857126/gran-turismo-5/videos/gcom09act_gt5_takingdamage_081909.htmlbleehum
thanks, looks great.
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#208 2scoopsofempty
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Then why did you mention looks? Gran Turismo 5, looks a lot better than Forza 3 graphically. GT5 is a great sim, its improving on Gran turismo 5 P.Adrian_Cloud
I wouldn't say a lot better, they are pretty much on par when in motion (hats off to turn 10 for doing it in 2 years time) but when i said that the Subaru replay video made this game look bad i meant it from a technical standpoint. I see nothing special...especially after such a long wait.

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#209 Threebabycows
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[QUOTE="2scoopsofempty"][QUOTE="Delsage"] LoL, no. Just check the detail of this game, even the metal steering wheel reflects like it's supposed to. Adrian_Cloud
"details" mean nothing if the game doesn't simulate properly...

Then why did you mention looks? Gran Turismo 5, looks a lot better than Forza 3 graphically. GT5 is a great sim, its improving on Gran turismo 5 P.

No, it does not.

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#210 videogamessux33
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OMG YES! GT5 is finally ...UPON US!!!

I think i'm going to buy a wheel with this game o_O

http://gamersyde.com/stream_gran_turismo_5_gamescom_damages-12436_en.html

Edit - Here's some interior gameplay as well.

http://gamersyde.com/stream_gran_turismo_5_gamescom_gameplay_part_1-12432_en.html

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gran turismo is definitely a arcade racer.
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#211 zero_snake99
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What's the point of cosmetic damage to the cars when you still bounce off the walls like Ridge Racer? It looks damn good, but let's face it, GT is for people who thinks a BMW M5 behaves the same as a Subaru Impreza. That's why most of us that used to play GT are now playing Forza, and will come October.neXib

Nice first post.

Anyway, since when did GT's BMWs or ANY car for that matter drive like any other car? Last time I popped in my GT3 (last night while waiting for th MS conference) each car felt different.... sooo yeah.

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#214 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="2scoopsofempty"] "details" mean nothing if the game doesn't simulate properly... Threebabycows

Then why did you mention looks? Gran Turismo 5, looks a lot better than Forza 3 graphically. GT5 is a great sim, its improving on Gran turismo 5 P.

No, it does not.

Yea, keep trying to convince yourself.
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#215 videogamessux33
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gran turismo handling=arcade racers
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#216 Delsage
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="2scoopsofempty"] "details" mean nothing if the game doesn't simulate properly... Threebabycows

Then why did you mention looks? Gran Turismo 5, looks a lot better than Forza 3 graphically. GT5 is a great sim, its improving on Gran turismo 5 P.

No, it does not.

Dare you to prove otherwise. Can you provide a link where Forza 3 has so much detail that the metal reflects on the steering wheel?
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#217 Ontain
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any reason why the silver car who slammed into the back of the blue one and side slammed into a barrier didn't look damaged at all?
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#218 jakarai
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Anyone noticed how pretty the backrounds are? Forza ain't got **** on GT 5.
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#219 bleehum
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any reason why the silver car who slammed into the back of the blue one and side slammed into a barrier didn't look damaged at all?Ontain
Damage not on all cars, I'm guessing production cars are on that list. Probably just race / rally cars will have damage. Fine with me, that's all I'll be racing with after a while.
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#220 Asim90
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Wow it looks incredible, but it was strange how the guy reversed into a barrier and nothing happened to the rear of the car, hopefully that will be fixed. Also kind of sad how I wont be able to smash up Lamborghini's or Ferrari's, but thats probably the beyond Polyphony's control.

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#221 bleehum
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Anyone noticed how pretty the backrounds are? Forza ain't got **** on GT 5.jakarai
Don't care about the backgrounds, I'm more focused on how awesome the cars look. :D
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#223 jakarai
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For the people calling it an arcade racer GT 5 has more then one type of game mode. If any of you would have played GT 5 Prologue you would know in the advanced online races you can't even TAP the walls without getting a penalty. I am sure this is just the arcade mode of the game.
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#224 Silenthps
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ew they shouldn't have added damage
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#225 bleehum
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For the people calling it an arcade racer GT 5 has more then one type of game mode. If any of you would have played GT 5 Prologue you would know in the advanced online races you can't even TAP the walls without getting a penalty. I am sure this is just the arcade mode of the game.jakarai
The demo the videos are from is in arcade mode.
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#226 jakarai
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[QUOTE="jakarai"]Anyone noticed how pretty the backrounds are? Forza ain't got **** on GT 5.bleehum
Don't care about the backgrounds, I'm more focused on how awesome the cars look. :D

Yeah man it's crazy the cars look even better then the ones in Prologue!
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#227 L33tbanneador
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It's hilarious how fanboys claim this game looks better than Forza 3 using a off screen video,when a direct feed is shown,gameplay and content is going to matter again xD.
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#228 PSdual_wielder
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Damn, I remembered playing this track all day long back in GT concept geneva.

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#229 bleehum
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It's hilarious how fanboys claim this game looks better than Forza 3 using a off screen video,when a direct feed is shown,gameplay and content is going to matter again xD.L33tbanneador
Then you're saying Forza 3 looks better than GT5 by looking at this offscreen video, because there is nothing else to base that off. Hypocrisy, gotta love it.
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#230 che5ter666
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Is it just me...or was there only damage to that WRX? The white Evo slammed into the back of it and nothing happend to the Evo. Which makes me think that there will only be damage for the WRC rally cars? The white Evo was a production road car nota rally car.

Thoughts?

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#231 bleehum
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Is it just me...or was there only damage to that WRX? The white Evo slammed into the back of it and nothing happend to the Evo. Which makes me think that there will only be damage for the WRC rally cars? The white Evo was a production road car nota rally car.

Thoughts?

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Already been discussed throughout the thread.
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#232 L33tbanneador
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[QUOTE="L33tbanneador"]It's hilarious how fanboys claim this game looks better than Forza 3 using a off screen video,when a direct feed is shown,gameplay and content is going to matter again xD.bleehum
Then you're saying Forza 3 looks better than GT5 by looking at this offscreen video, because there is nothing else to base that off. Hypocrisy, gotta love it.

show me where i said that,that's what i thought ;).
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#233 che5ter666
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[QUOTE="che5ter666"]

Is it just me...or was there only damage to that WRX? The white Evo slammed into the back of it and nothing happend to the Evo. Which makes me think that there will only be damage for the WRC rally cars? The white Evo was a production road car nota rally car.

Thoughts?

bleehum

Already been discussed throughout the thread.

Woops! Sorry! Late to the party.

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#234 bleehum
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[QUOTE="bleehum"][QUOTE="L33tbanneador"]It's hilarious how fanboys claim this game looks better than Forza 3 using a off screen video, when a direct feed is shown,gameplay and content is going to matter again xD.L33tbanneador
Then you're saying Forza 3 looks better than GT5 by looking at this offscreen video, because there is nothing else to base that off. Hypocrisy, gotta love it.

show me where i said that,that's what i thought ;).

Think I'm stupid? You're obviously implying once a direct feed video is released, you think Forza 3 will look better judging by that video, and think GT fans will shift their focus to gameplay and content. :wink:

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#235 stereointegrity
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]OK I watched every trailer so far. The damage is very impressive! Graphics look really good, but I honestly can't tell if it looks better or worse than Forza 3. These are off screen vids, aren't the graphics suppose to look better? Trees are still fugly as hell, wow :lol:. Other than that, the worst of my worries are now vanquished. Announce a track editor and It's a wrap for me. More than a wrap, it's a bundle :lol:zero_snake99

I will admit, this is damage control... buuuut

Forza 3's aren't any better..

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i dont think its damage control haha me and treal both play ps3 together...

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#236 djxaquaxblue
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[QUOTE="DeadMagazines"][QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

I don't understand the whole wall bouncing claim. The way I remember Forza 2 was that sliding off the walls didn't do much damage at all. You could still drive at your top speed... I even used to glide off the computer cars. The only damaging aspect of Forza 2 was being hit hard in the back or front of your car. (unles you find a way to get rammed from the side)

Adrian_Cloud

in the video the guy's car got slammed from behind into a wall head on, and the only thing that happened was the hood flew up and he was still going faster than the car that hit him :lol: That's some serious realism.

Have you played GT5: Prologue?

not only that...has anyone even gone back to play forza? i remember driving a 300ZX right into the wall doing 80mph and the only thing that happened was the bumper got loose.

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#237 II-FBIsniper-II
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Am I missing something or is there only cosmetic damage in those videos?
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#238 dream431ca
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Looks ok, I'm not impressed by the damage, but the graphics and lighting are top notch awesome!

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#239 DeadMagazines
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="DeadMagazines"] in the video the guy's car got slammed from behind into a wall head on, and the only thing that happened was the hood flew up and he was still going faster than the car that hit him :lol: That's some serious realism. djxaquaxblue

Have you played GT5: Prologue?

not only that...has anyone even gone back to play forza? i remember driving a 300ZX right into the wall doing 80mph and the only thing that happened was the bumper got loose.

Which forza are you playing? Forza 2 you drive with simulation damage and run into a wall you're car is done...
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#240 Couth_
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[QUOTE="djxaquaxblue"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Have you played GT5: Prologue?DeadMagazines

not only that...has anyone even gone back to play forza? i remember driving a 300ZX right into the wall doing 80mph and the only thing that happened was the bumper got loose.

Which forza are you playing? Forza 2 you drive with simulation damage and run into a wall you're car is done...

Not really. Depends on the speed and the angle.. Ive finished races in first with missing bumpers
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#241 stereointegrity
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i wanted damage to all cars :cry:
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#242 Z0MBIES
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="DeadMagazines"] in the video the guy's car got slammed from behind into a wall head on, and the only thing that happened was the hood flew up and he was still going faster than the car that hit him :lol: That's some serious realism. djxaquaxblue

Have you played GT5: Prologue?

not only that...has anyone even gone back to play forza? i remember driving a 300ZX right into the wall doing 80mph and the only thing that happened was the bumper got loose.

Then you must have skid against the wall, a head on collision would knock your car out of the race.

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#243 DeadMagazines
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Not really. Depends on the speed and the angle.. Ive finished races in first with missing bumpersCouth_
Because going into a wall at 80 mph only makes the bumper fall off, right. The car is done, just stop.
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#244 bigblunt537
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[QUOTE="Couth_"]Not really. Depends on the speed and the angle.. Ive finished races in first with missing bumpersDeadMagazines
Because going into a wall at 80 mph only makes the bumper fall off, right. The car is done, just stop.

He's lying about the finishing in first, but cosmetics he's correct. You can go into a wall at 80 mph in Forza 2 and your bumper will just fall of or your hood will dent. Cosmetically these damage models are by far more advanced than 2. We haven't seen much of 3 yet for me to make a comparison.

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#245 W1NGMAN-
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Wow I wasn't expecting that at all....sweet the doors can fly off, and the hood pops off showing the engine....I think Forza's damage modeling got one up'd

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#246 II-FBIsniper-II
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Wow I wasn't expecting that at all....sweet the doors can fly off, and the hood pops off showing the engine....I think Forza's damage modeling got one up'd

W1NGMAN-
Forza 2's. We haven't seen Forza 3 damage modeling yet.
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#247 Tjeremiah1988
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wait, the cars damage is great and all, but it doesnt appear to effect the cars performance at all. Hits the wall more than 5x, yet was able to go toe to toe with its rival..
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#248 mo0ksi
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Wow I wasn't expecting that at all....sweet the doors can fly off, and the hood pops off showing the engine....I think Forza's damage modeling got one up'd

W1NGMAN-
Yeah, congrats to GT5 for doing what DiRT did 2 years ago :roll:
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#249 heretrix
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="DeadMagazines"] in the video the guy's car got slammed from behind into a wall head on, and the only thing that happened was the hood flew up and he was still going faster than the car that hit him :lol: That's some serious realism. djxaquaxblue

Have you played GT5: Prologue?

not only that...has anyone even gone back to play forza? i remember driving a 300ZX right into the wall doing 80mph and the only thing that happened was the bumper got loose.

Lets face it, neither GT5 nor Forza have "realistic" damage, but at least Forza has damage on all of it's cars and it can be a factor in a race. If you have the damage set to anything above cosmetic, the perfomance of your car is affected dramatically and it even shows a diagram of where the damage is. No, you cannot total your car, but good luck finishing a race unless you have an infinite amount of patience.

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#250 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

Wow I wasn't expecting that at all....sweet the doors can fly off, and the hood pops off showing the engine....I think Forza's damage modeling got one up'd

mo0ksi

Yeah, congrats to GT5 for doing what DiRT did 2 years ago :roll:

Too bad GT5 looks 10x better than Dirt and can still accomplish some fantastic damage modeling. I remember everyone saying GT5 would take a hit graphically if they add damage, that doesn't seem to be the case at all.