Gran Turismo 5 DAMAGE GAMEPLAY!!!

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]How do we even know if there is an option for varying levels of damage sensitivity? How do we know whether or not "cosmetic" is the only setting GT5 has?DanteSuikoden

We don't, hence the probably set on cosmetics

Anyone else notice on the first video how the car that slammed into the back of the blue car (same car from the GT5 E3 trailer) didn't have a sratch on it? That's lame. Why even do damage if other drivers crash into you with no damage whatsoever?Shattered007

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]How do we even know if there is an option for varying levels of damage sensitivity? How do we know whether or not "cosmetic" is the only setting GT5 has?DanteSuikoden

We don't, hence the probably set on cosmetics

Exactly. So saying "probabably set on cosmetics" would imply that there is more than one setting to choose from. At the current moment, we don't know if there are or aren't more settings to choose from so it would be perfectly logical to assume, at least for the time being, that cosmetic is the only setting the game has.

[QUOTE="Shattered007"]Anyone else notice on the first video how the car that slammed into the back of the blue car (same car from the GT5 E3 trailer) didn't have a sratch on it? That's lame. Why even do damage if other drivers crash into you with no damage whatsoever?Tjeremiah1988

[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] to bad looks arent everything. The fact remain, GT5 fanboys getting hype for this is laughable. Again, the damage does not appear, viewing the video, to effect performance of the vehicle. And again , Forza will get better reviews because, well, so far it appears to be better. Not only GP, but overall performance, and features. heretrix

Funny thing is Forza fanboys made a huge deal about Prologue not having damage....now that GT5 is confirmed to have damaged, on top of that even better damage modeling than Forza 2 while looking leaps and bounds better....

it's a no biggy, ha go figure. :roll:

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/101/1015547p1.html

More updates. Kaz confirms there is no track editor, they haven't even really thought about it.

Crickey, this is the problem with rumors and fanboys. This was a feature touted by many fanboys as being in the game, not long after that it became fact and fanboy fodder. Let's just wait for real information from now on.

Why do you assume that it isn't the only setting?II-FBIsniper-II

Kind of jumped the gun:P

I only read and responnded to his first question

[QUOTE="Shattered007"]Anyone else notice on the first video how the car that slammed into the back of the blue car (same car from the GT5 E3 trailer) didn't have a sratch on it? That's lame. Why even do damage if other drivers crash into you with no damage whatsoever?Tjeremiah1988

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/101/1015547p1.html

More updates. Kaz confirms there is no track editor, they haven't even really thought about it.

Crickey, this is the problem with rumors and fanboys. This was a feature touted by many fanboys as being in the game, not long after that it became fact and fanboy fodder. Let's just wait for real information from now on.

Wubba

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="djxaquaxblue"]

not only that...has anyone even gone back to play forza? i remember driving a 300ZX right into the wall doing 80mph and the only thing that happened was the bumper got loose.

L33tbanneador

[QUOTE="Wubba"]

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/101/1015547p1.html

More updates. Kaz confirms there is no track editor, they haven't even really thought about it.

Crickey, this is the problem with rumors and fanboys. This was a feature touted by many fanboys as being in the game, not long after that it became fact and fanboy fodder. Let's just wait for real information from now on.

Couth_

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="Shattered007"]Anyone else notice on the first video how the car that slammed into the back of the blue car (same car from the GT5 E3 trailer) didn't have a sratch on it? That's lame. Why even do damage if other drivers crash into you with no damage whatsoever?Shattered007

Shame that not every car has damage and only 170 do...every other game has damage for all their cars, oh well, game is probably gonna come out this year.

[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] samething im saying but GT5 fanboys ignore this.navyguy21

We don't know what kind of settings GT5 has on or off...so I'll rather not jump to any conclusions.

Am I a cow? Do I look like a Cow? No soo save a rant like that when a real cow makes a comment like the one I stated.

[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="Wubba"]

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/101/1015547p1.html

More updates. Kaz confirms there is no track editor, they haven't even really thought about it.

Crickey, this is the problem with rumors and fanboys. This was a feature touted by many fanboys as being in the game, not long after that it became fact and fanboy fodder. Let's just wait for real information from now on.

Adrian_Cloud

Disappointing…

This is as disappointing as it gets …..WTF….No wonder Poly tanked E3….This is as half fast as it can get……

I don't care about the cosmetics or that only 170 cars get "damage" …That's not the point…. It has never been the point… Were are the details on the game?

Is it just superficial damage or are there mechanical disadvantages? How many levels of damage simulation are there?(None/Cosmetic/Simulation)

They said weather and night racing? Where is it?

New physics? What's new about it? How is it better than GT5P Sec III?

Release date?

This is crap all the way around…..This is just another horrible showing from Poly…:evil:

Disappointing…

This is as disappointing as it gets …..WTF….No wonder Poly tanked E3….This is as half fast as it can get……

I don't care about the cosmetics or that only 170 cars get "damage" …That's not the point…. It has never been the point… Were are the details on the game?

Is it just superficial damage or are there mechanical disadvantages? How many levels of damage simulation are there?(None/Cosmetic/Simulation)

They said weather and night racing? Where is it?

New physics? What's new about it? How is it better than GT5P Sec III?

Release date?

This is crap all the way around…..This is just another horrible showing from Poly…:evil:

masiisam

[QUOTE="L33tbanneador"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] God bless you. Its funny how the number of cars that have damage aren't even mentioned and people are making claims 400 cars with damage>1000 cars without damage. For some reason that doesn't make sense. Adrian_Cloud

Disappointing…

This is as disappointing as it gets …..WTF….No wonder Poly tanked E3….This is as half fast as it can get……

I don't care about the cosmetics or that only 170 cars get "damage" …That's not the point…. It has never been the point… Were are the details on the game?

Is it just superficial damage or are there mechanical disadvantages? How many levels of damage simulation are there?(None/Cosmetic/Simulation)

They said weather and night racing? Where is it?

New physics? What's new about it? How is it better than GT5P Sec III?

Release date?

This is crap all the way around…..This is just another horrible showing from Poly…:evil:

masiisam

Seriously Polyphony Digital (trust, Yamauchi reads all my posts):

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

[QUOTE="L33tbanneador"] Too bad all Forza 2 cars have damage and they all have performance effects.II-FBIsniper-II

[QUOTE="Shattered007"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] lol :lol: I was just about to point that out.Adrian_Cloud

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Sure, all cars have damage. You can smash a car to bits and still have it preforming better than it should. :|

Adrian_Cloud

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

Disappointing…

This is as disappointing as it gets …..WTF….No wonder Poly tanked E3….This is as half fast as it can get……

I don't care about the cosmetics or that only 170 cars get "damage" …That's not the point…. It has never been the point… Were are the details on the game?

Is it just superficial damage or are there mechanical disadvantages? How many levels of damage simulation are there?(None/Cosmetic/Simulation)

They said weather and night racing? Where is it?

New physics? What's new about it? How is it better than GT5P Sec III?

Release date?

This is crap all the way around…..This is just another horrible showing from Poly…:evil:

Adrian_Cloud

I should not have any of those questions..Sony/Poly SIMPLY needed to do a proper press release for the game and they failed at doing so…

Whats the point of doing damage if you are not going to do it right? What ever this game is going to flop...

Whats the point of doing damage if you are not going to do it right? What ever this game is going to flop...

-Melix-

[QUOTE="-Melix-"]

Whats the point of doing damage if you are not going to do it right? What ever this game is going to flop...

Shattered007

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="masiisam"]

Disappointing…

This is as disappointing as it gets …..WTF….No wonder Poly tanked E3….This is as half fast as it can get……

I don't care about the cosmetics or that only 170 cars get "damage" …That's not the point…. It has never been the point… Were are the details on the game?

Is it just superficial damage or are there mechanical disadvantages? How many levels of damage simulation are there?(None/Cosmetic/Simulation)

They said weather and night racing? Where is it?

New physics? What's new about it? How is it better than GT5P Sec III?

Release date?

This is crap all the way around…..This is just another horrible showing from Poly…:evil:

masiisam

I should not have any of those questions..Sony/Poly SIMPLY needed to do a proper press release for the game and they failed at doing so…

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

That looks excellent. But I gotta laugh at people making this out to be HUGE. Even Need For Speed has had damage for quite awhile now.

Hurrah for features lots of people had years ago. What's next? Online?

heretrix

It's like saying that GT was the best driving sim on the consoles, but now that it incorporates a feature that other racers have had for YEARS, it's still the best. what it actually is, is just catching up. I guess playing catch up with everyone else is part of being the best.

I don't think anyone has ever held up Bioshock as being the best FPS series ever.

I think it's incredibly silly to even try to put a spin on this.After years of stalling they finally do what they should have done years ago and the feature still isn't in 100 percent of the vehicles. I love the series and it's always looked good, but the super long development cycles allow all of their competition to pass them by in terms of gameplay options.And it isn't getting any easier either. There are lots of great looking racers out there, you can't just rest on your presentation anymore.

2.) I consider it a fact that the inclusion of damage is only a plus for the franchise. It's "HUGE" for Gran Turismo fans. No spin there.

3.) I believe that Poly got complacent with GT4 development. That was the last installment, last genreation. Meh. I'm glad they're including damage in their next installment, GT5.

4.) I never said or implied that GT5 is "the best". So take my statements disregarding what you hear or read from others.

5.) You're right, there are many great games in the genre. Never denied that.

6.) Your fist statement resembled my analogy almost perfectly:

--- heretrix: "Even Need For Speed has had damage for quite awhile now. Hurrah for features lots of people had years ago. What's next? Online?"

--- Check this out for comparison: Even Killzone 1 has had online for quite awhile now. Hurrah for features lots of people had years ago. What's next? Better physics?

Now, the analogy your proposed in the post I'm quoting is much different than your first statement. You now include variables like"best" and other people's past arguments. It can defintely pass, given the situation. Even though it is a generalization.

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] so many questions... why not wait for TGS?Adrian_Cloud

I should not have any of those questions..Sony/Poly SIMPLY needed to do a proper press release for the game and they failed at doing so…

A proper press release requires a PR TEAM???:lol::lol:

More like a college intern…

Whats the point of doing damage if you are not going to do it right? What ever this game is going to flop...

Nice to see some replay and gameplay footage of GT5 (That's all I'm going to say). :)

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="Shattered007"] No way it'll flop, probably be the PS3's first 10million seller.Shattered007

Damage is a huge issue.. Considering the fact that the damge has no effect to the performance of the car what so ever.. If that is true it could be completely be unfair, andwould make it unbalanced

Whats the point of doing damage if you are not going to do it right? What ever this game is going to flop...

-Melix-

This is my problem with the whole thing. GT fans love to talk about how Polyphony are perfectionists and how they wouldn't add damage to the game until they could do it perfectly.

Before I continue on, I have to give credit where credit is due. The damage modeling on the Subaru looked fantastic. There was no chassis damage but that's to be expected and so far, Forza doesn't have that either so I'm not going to begrudge them for that. The fact that doors can fall off and the hood can pop up and interfere with your view is great.

To continue with my earlier train of thought, if there are only certain cars that can be damaged and even those cars that can be damaged cannot be damaged mechanically, then it sort of goes against the whole "Polyphony Digital is comprised of perfectionists and they never half-ass anything!" idea.

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="Shattered007"] No way it'll flop, probably be the PS3's first 10million seller.Shattered007

Nice to see some replay and gameplay footage of GT5 (That's all I'm going to say). :)

Rikusaki

[QUOTE="-Melix-"]

Whats the point of doing damage if you are not going to do it right? What ever this game is going to flop...

The_Game21x

This is my problem with the whole thing. GT fans love to talk about how Polyphony are perfectionists and how they wouldn't add damage to the game until they could do it perfectly.

Before I continue on, I have to give credit where credit is due. The damage modeling on the Subaru looked fantastic. There was no chassis damage but that's to be expected and so far, Forza doesn't have that either so I'm not going to begrudge them for that. The fact that doors can fall off and the hood can pop up and interfere with your view is great.

To continue with my earlier train of thought, if there are only certain cars that can be damaged and even those cars that can be damaged cannot be damaged mechanically, then it sort of goes against the whole "Polyphony Digital is comprised of perfectionists and they never half-ass anything!" idea.

We will not know until they either tell us or the game comes out.

[QUOTE="Shattered007"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] in terms or scores, yes, it will flop.-Melix-

Damage is a huge issue.. Considering the fact that the damge has no effect to the performance of the car what so ever.. If that is true it could be completely be unfair, andwould make it unbalanced

[QUOTE="-Melix-"]

Whats the point of doing damage if you are not going to do it right? What ever this game is going to flop...

The_Game21x

This is my problem with the whole thing. GT fans love to talk about how Polyphony are perfectionists and how they wouldn't add damage to the game until they could do it perfectly.

Before I continue on, I have to give credit where credit is due. The damage modeling on the Subaru looked fantastic. There was no chassis damage but that's to be expected and so far, Forza doesn't have that either so I'm not going to begrudge them for that. The fact that doors can fall off and the hood can pop up and interfere with your view is great.

To continue with my earlier train of thought, if there are only certain cars that can be damaged and even those cars that can be damaged cannot be damaged mechanically, then it sort of goes against the whole "Polyphony Digital is comprised of perfectionists and they never half-ass anything!" idea.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="-Melix-"]

Whats the point of doing damage if you are not going to do it right? What ever this game is going to flop...

zero_snake99

This is my problem with the whole thing. GT fans love to talk about how Polyphony are perfectionists and how they wouldn't add damage to the game until they could do it perfectly.

Before I continue on, I have to give credit where credit is due. The damage modeling on the Subaru looked fantastic. There was no chassis damage but that's to be expected and so far, Forza doesn't have that either so I'm not going to begrudge them for that. The fact that doors can fall off and the hood can pop up and interfere with your view is great.

To continue with my earlier train of thought, if there are only certain cars that can be damaged and even those cars that can be damaged cannot be damaged mechanically, then it sort of goes against the whole "Polyphony Digital is comprised of perfectionists and they never half-ass anything!" idea.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Wubba"]

http://www.gtplanet.net/yamauchi-clarifies-questions-about-damage/

Kaz clarifies that damage will only occur on select cars. And no Porshce license. That's a bit deflating.

W1NGMAN-

Now that right there is just lame.

or this:

In GT 5?

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

This is my problem with the whole thing. GT fans love to talk about how Polyphony are perfectionists and how they wouldn't add damage to the game until they could do it perfectly.

Before I continue on, I have to give credit where credit is due. The damage modeling on the Subaru looked fantastic. There was no chassis damage but that's to be expected and so far, Forza doesn't have that either so I'm not going to begrudge them for that. The fact that doors can fall off and the hood can pop up and interfere with your view is great.

To continue with my earlier train of thought, if there are only certain cars that can be damaged and even those cars that can be damaged cannot be damaged mechanically, then it sort of goes against the whole "Polyphony Digital is comprised of perfectionists and they never half-ass anything!" idea.

The_Game21x

While watching one of the videos I noticed the car was swaying back and forth. There's this, also.

http://www.4players.de/4players.php/spielinfonews/PlayStation3/9148/1971553/Gran_Turismo_5.html

Some important stuff from that link:

- Some Parts don´t fall of.

- Car behaves different when damaged.

- Computer AI cars drive unfair, and do not take damage or slow down when the hit you.

- Only Arcade mode showed at GamesCom.

- No graphs showing what parts are damaged.

- The mirrors and windows cannot be damaged.