Gran Turismo V's Forza

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[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="mangas"]Thanks for sharing your knowledge...:roll: And you can do those things in Forza? Forza's difficulty does not translate into realism, but hey, opinions aren't meant to be right or wrong.Makari

As I said, I can't say an opinion is wrong. Yours is just different from mine. My opinion about GT5 is formed by the way the bmw Z4 handles on a track, I have one in real life, and IMO it is as close to real as it gets.

To be honest, I don't know... I tend to drive only the "dream machines" in games, but since my experience with this particular car in GT5p is so close to reality and based on real life driving, I cannot imagine that "OMG teh forza 2 handling pwnz GT5"

[QUOTE="mangas"]Thanks for sharing your knowledge...:roll: And you can do those things in Forza? Forza's difficulty does not translate into realism, but hey, opinions aren't meant to be right or wrong.Makari

uh, I said it, and I'm not a fanboy, have played both series and have been racing for many many years. This is why you should never assume, and you would lose that bet.

uh, I said it, and I'm not a fanboy, have played both series and have been racing for many many years. This is why you should never assume, and you would lose that bet.mazdero

[QUOTE="mazdero"]uh, I said it, and I'm not a fanboy, have played both series and have been racing for many many years. This is why you should never assume, and you would lose that bet.Makari

I can find no fault with your logic here. well played sir.

Its fairly close

I think that if you were to subtract pure fanboy votes and leave just the "educated posts" (people that have genuinly spent alot of time with both game series) forza would come out on top.

Its fairly close

I think that if you were to subtract pure fanboy votes and leave just the "educated posts" (people that have genuinly spent alot of time with both game series) forza would come out on top.

angryfodder

no. 50cent 2 comes out on top lol

As people were talking about how much GT5 will sell, I thought about this poll I did.

As over 40% of people went with forza, do you think this will reflect in the GT5 sales? In the past GT had pretty much nothingin competition, so all car fans would just buy it withot question.

As people were talking about how much GT5 will sell, I thought about this poll I did.

As over 40% of people went with forza, do you think this will reflect in the GT5 sales? In the past GT had pretty much nothingin competition, so all car fans would just buy it withot question.

As people were talking about how much GT5 will sell, I thought about this poll I did.

As over 40% of people went with forza, do you think this will reflect in the GT5 sales? In the past GT had pretty much nothingin competition, so all car fans would just buy it withot question.

As people were talking about how much GT5 will sell, I thought about this poll I did.

As over 40% of people went with forza, do you think this will reflect in the GT5 sales? In the past GT had pretty much nothingin competition, so all car fans would just buy it withot question.

Holy year old thread Batman! :shock:

It is funny to go back and read all of the older posts though, he he. :D

Are you implying Forza is better when it comes to physics? It's more arcade like than any Sim out there, all it has going for it is the customization.PsyKosis

Are you implying Forza is better when it comes to physics? It's more arcade like than any Sim out there, all it has going for it is the customization.PsyKosis

No...just...no...

Please, before piping up on issues like this, do some research first...

Wow old thread.

Anyway, I prefer GT.

I can understand why Gt is so popular but this thread is full of GT fans that have never spent any time with either Forza game (if any at all) claiming GT has more realistic physics :| I can't talk about the PS3 demo but if we are going on GT4 compared to FM2 that is a joke in all honesty.

Dammit I hate thread revival

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]Why even compare the games. By the time GT5 even comes out I would not be shocked if Forza 3 is out. ChiChiMonKilla

Plus:

GT 1: 8.5 (AA)

GT 2: 8.5 (AA)

GT 3: 9.4 (AAA)

GT 4: 8.9 (AA)

GT 5PL: 7.5 (A)

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Forza 1: 9.2 (AAA)

Forza 2 9.2 (AAA)

Is Forza 3 official yet? I haven't heard of any announcement.mattbbpl

I heard that it is meant to be 2009 and on multiple discs - I don't think any of that is official though.

[QUOTE="PsyKosis"]Are you implying Forza is better when it comes to physics? It's more arcade like than any Sim out there, all it has going for it is the customization.The_Game21x

No...just...no...

Please, before piping up on issues like this, do some research first...

He may not be fully aware of the amount of programming involved in the games, but most people would tell you that they prefered GT because the physics felt spot on. Forza may have advanced physics, but that doesn't mean anything if most people don't 'feel' it. I sure don't.

[QUOTE="PsyKosis"]Are you implying Forza is better when it comes to physics? It's more arcade like than any Sim out there, all it has going for it is the customization.The_Game21x

No...just...no...

Please, before piping up on issues like this, do some research first...

This takes denial, guilt transference, and revisionist history to unprecendented heights - or lows depending on how you look at it. The GT fans are so incapable of bearing the reality of the situation, they have to try to shift the blame to the competitor to be able to feel good about their title. "No no, it's not our title that lacks any collision physics, it's them, yeah it's them, we're still number one". They base their assessments of GT on a standard that's 13 years out of date, living in the past, not the present.

Sorry, but NO, Forza is the far more sim racing experience than GT, and absolutely NO amount of your propoganda will change that. At least not until Polyphony finally pulls themselves out of their 13 year old formula.

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[QUOTE="PsyKosis"]Are you implying Forza is better when it comes to physics? It's more arcade like than any Sim out there, all it has going for it is the customization.AdobeArtist

No...just...no...

Please, before piping up on issues like this, do some research first...

This takes denial, guilt transference, and revisionist history to unprecendented heights - or lows depending on how you look at it. The GT fans are so incapable of bearing the reality of the situation, they have to try to shift the blame to the competitor to be able to feel good about their title. "No no, it's not our title that lacks any collision physics, it's them, yeah it's them, we're still number one". They base their assessments of GT on a standard that's 13 years out of date, living in the past, not the present.

Sorry, but NO, Forza is the far more sim racing experience than GT, and absolutely NO amount of your propoganda will change that. At least not until Polyphony finally pulls themselves out of their 13 year old formula.

I am a GT fan and the way I see it, neither developer has done anything wrong, it's just Forza fanboys decided that there is some kind of rule that a game cannot be a sim if it does not have damage, which is a lie. In other words the problem is closer to home than you think.

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[QUOTE="PsyKosis"]Are you implying Forza is better when it comes to physics? It's more arcade like than any Sim out there, all it has going for it is the customization.Leejjohno

No...just...no...

Please, before piping up on issues like this, do some research first...

He may not be fully aware of the amount of programming involved in the games, but most people would tell you that they prefered GT because the physics felt spot on. Forza may have advanced physics, but that doesn't mean anything if most people don't 'feel' it. I sure don't.

gt is the only ''game'' actually its not a game but a real life simulatorthat comes close to how people brake, gas, hadnbrake, steer, make a turn, spin, drag etc in real life

in short if you wanna have fun race win the race you take forza..

if you wanna have a feel how a real ife car react you take GT...

legalize3

What GT does well, it does very well. But it just doesn't move the series forward. When i stuck prologue in it looked great, it even races well, but I couldn't help feeling that I had ben here before....five times.

GT5 has been in development now for soo long time now and I am almost certain now that they are probably spending that time in the wrong area.

I thought Forza 2 felt a bit rushed - it seemed like forza 1, but the 360 version, but even in that short space of time they still managed to add some cool new additions that I don't believe were in the original, like the auction house.

I like GT more but for the moment forza has the best game.

until GT5 comes out.

What GT does well, it does very well. But it just doesn't move the series forward. When i stuck prologue in it looked great, it even races well, but I couldn't help feeling that I had ben here before....five times.

GT5 has been in development now for soo long time now and I am almost certain now that they are probably spending that time in the wrong area.

I thought Forza 2 felt a bit rushed - it seemed like forza 1, but the 360 version, but even in that short space of time they still managed to add some cool new additions that I don't believe were in the original, like the auction house.

angryfodder

Yeah, they don't change a whole lot from game to game, but GT5p is very different in the handling and physics. I can understand you don't feel that using a pad, but using a steering wheel changes everything. And what most people don't realize is that there is a lot you can change in the difficulty settings, steering wheel settings and so on. When changing to those cheap tires the car suddenly feel a lot more realistic.Martin_G_N

I find physics one of those things that people can argue about, but at the end of the day don't know what they are saying. There are just too many variables for anyone to even try say that one is more accurate than the other. My car is in the GT games and even I can't say if its accurate to real life or not. As games, they are both very good though.

My problem with GT is that they don't address the most basic issues - issues that started in GT1 - the competition feels like it is on rails. The don't interact with you, you don't really feel like you are racing against them. They just end up feeling like something that is in your way. Bumper car physics add to this 10 fold.

It needs a damage/crash engine. It doesn't need to be cosmetic, it just needs to make crashing a bad thing. the competition need to know this as well. They need to be aware of you and avoid hitting you.

[QUOTE="Leejjohno"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

No...just...no...

Please, before piping up on issues like this, do some research first...

The_Game21x

He may not be fully aware of the amount of programming involved in the games, but most people would tell you that they prefered GT because the physics felt spot on. Forza may have advanced physics, but that doesn't mean anything if most people don't 'feel' it. I sure don't.

Well i am fine with that. It is realistic, I never said it wasn't.

Forza is better imo. I own GT3, and played a lot of GT4, and Forza 2 beats them. Mainly, the customisation, the physics, the damage and the AI. I don't know how people can think bumper cars following their own line and ignoring you beats Forza....locopatho