Half a year later. Did Killzone 2 reach it's goal?

Now this is a question for people who have ACTUALLY played the game. It's been half a year now. And a lot of us have been wowed and disapointed in Killzone 2 But for those who have playd it, do you think guerilla achieved what it was trying to reach? As far as Graphics/Gameplay go?

They should have, given the amount of money and time they were given. I for one was really impressed with the look and sound and I enjoyed the gameplay which to me felt more realistic than any other shooter I've played.

What exactly was their goal? :S

To release a game that receives good reviews? I think they did that.

Killzone 2 is a AAA title and I'm sure they like that. Whether the hype of sales got into their head or not, I am not sure. Killzone 2 didn't burst in sales like hyped, so I suppose it fails there.

It's a solid game which I occassionally play online.

The game turned out to be a great and fun game and it owned all the haters who predicted that a sequel to a flop would be a flop. It's not the game of the gen but it is a great game in it's own right.

What exactly was their goal? :S

To release a game that receives good reviews? I think they did that.

Killzone 2 is a AAA title and I'm sure they like that. Whether the hype of sales got into their head or not, I am not sure. Killzone 2 didn't burst in sales like hyped, so I suppose it fails there.

It's a solid game which I occassionally play online.

Alpha-Male22

Well, it's not like they could really make a game worse than the first Killzone. I think they did reach their goal.

It's a great game, I still play it.

It's going to be a building block franchise for them, which takes time.

Not sure what their goal was but the game is totally great for me and its best loooking console game out there :), i enjoy playing it

It succeeded in some areas but not in others.

Gameplay and graphics wise its a very good game. And the online is brilliant.

Though the story could have been better, its an epic game which needed more epic characters really, and whilst the onlne is as good as COD4, maybe better, I find myself playing COD4 online more often.

If their goal was to make a solid game, I must say they've done it. I don't think anyone expected good scores after seeing the first game do terrible.siLVURcross

It succeeded in some areas but not in others.

Gameplay and graphics wise its a very good game. And the online is brilliant.

Though the story could have been better, its an epic game which needed more epic characters really, and whilst the onlne is as good as COD4, maybe better, I find myself playing COD4 online more often.

NinjaMunkey01

Though I agree with you on the story, I do feel FPS is the genre that gets away easiest with a crappy story. Whether that's a good thing is a different discussion.

I thought they delivered a great conventional shooter overall.

Now if they could bring something else to the table with KZ3 or whatever they want to work on.

I mean imagine that powerful engine with tropical island setting, or another sci-fi setting like in Mass Effect, that'd awesome.

Or places like the Vekta ship.

I'm not sure what the pre-defined "goal" for the game was. All I know is that I still enjoy it. Resistance is still higher on my pecking order mind you, but KZ2's installment has insured that it will remain as one of the few FPSs I'll invest in.

As far as "goals" go, I felt they met their target-render's standards as far as gameplay and atmosphere is concerned.

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It succeeded in some areas but not in others.

Gameplay and graphics wise its a very good game. And the online is brilliant.

Though the story could have been better, its an epic game which needed more epic characters really, and whilst the onlne is as good as COD4, maybe better, I find myself playing COD4 online more often.

Though I agree with you on the story, I do feel FPS is the genre that gets away easiest with a crappy story. Whether that's a good thing is a different discussion.

Not much to complain about.

• AI was really good , difficulty was tuned pretty well
• Shooting was fun , lots of great weapons - Boltgun , Electricity gun , Flamethrower , Sniper rifle , etc.
• Beautifulgame , good setting , and cool looking enemies to kill
• It sounded great , music was good too
• Great cover system , I'd like to see more shooters adopt something similar
• Multiplayer is good

Every game has its faultsand omissions , but overall I think they did really well. With the tech and exprience gained , I'm looking forward to Killzone 3 while still enjoying this one.

I thought they delivered a great conventional shooter overall.

Now if they could bring something else to the table with KZ3 or whatever they want to work on.

I mean imagine that powerful engine with tropical island setting, or another sci-fi setting like in Mass Effect, that'd awesome.

Or places like the Vekta ship.

HAZE-Unit

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It succeeded in some areas but not in others.

Gameplay and graphics wise its a very good game. And the online is brilliant.

Though the story could have been better, its an epic game which needed more epic characters really, and whilst the onlne is as good as COD4, maybe better, I find myself playing COD4 online more often.

NinjaMunkey01

Though I agree with you on the story, I do feel FPS is the genre that gets away easiest with a crappy story. Whether that's a good thing is a different discussion.

True, I also enjoy a good story in any game; really adds to the experience. That's why Bioshock and System Shock are my faavo FPS's.

i still play it online occasionally. Im not sure what exactly guerillas goals were, but if they were to create the best console shooter out there or a console graphics king, id say they failed on both accounts. -DrRobotnik-

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I thought they delivered a great conventional shooter overall.

Now if they could bring something else to the table with KZ3 or whatever they want to work on.

I mean imagine that powerful engine with tropical island setting, or another sci-fi setting like in Mass Effect, that'd awesome.

Or places like the Vekta ship.

Animal-Mother

That would be amazing, I want to see the KZ2 engine on brighter worlds, I want to see how they would do it with trees and rocks, vegetation, they should do something like that.

or going inside a volcano mountain, I want to experience new settings.

This engine should be exploited :D

[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]i still play it online occasionally. Im not sure what exactly guerillas goals were, but if they were to create the best console shooter out there or a console graphics king, id say they failed on both accounts. MassiveKaos

i still play it online occasionally. Im not sure what exactly guerillas goals were, but if they were to create the best console shooter out there or a console graphics king, id say they failed on both accounts. -DrRobotnik-

i dont see how they failed on graphics kz2 is one of the best looking games to ever come out on consoles

the only other games that look good but not as good are dead space and resident evil 5

i still play it online occasionally. Im not sure what exactly guerillas goals were, but if they were to create the best console shooter out there or a console graphics king, id say they failed on both accounts. -DrRobotnik-

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I thought they delivered a great conventional shooter overall.

Now if they could bring something else to the table with KZ3 or whatever they want to work on.

I mean imagine that powerful engine with tropical island setting, or another sci-fi setting like in Mass Effect, that'd awesome.

Or places like the Vekta ship.

HAZE-Unit

That would be amazing, I want to see the KZ2 engine on brighter worlds, I want to see how they would do it with trees and rocks, vegetation, they should do something like that.

or going inside a volcano mountain, I want to experience new settings.

This engine should be exploited :D

KZ2 is a great game and it did reach its goal which was being graphically impressive (for a console game), have solid gameplay, an interesting story and great online.. It did deliver on all aspects..

However GG should now focus a bit more on its story in sequels, as others said the KZ universe/story is intriguing and there is so much more to it than just 2 sides fighting eachother..

i still play it online occasionally. Im not sure what exactly guerillas goals were, but if they were to create the best console shooter out there or a console graphics king, id say they failed on both accounts. -DrRobotnik-

[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="MassiveKaos"]Killzone 2 being the best console game graphically so far is a FACT not opinion so i dont see what you are trying to say?NinjaMunkey01

[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="MassiveKaos"]Killzone 2 being the best console game graphically so far is a FACT not opinion so i dont see what you are trying to say?

NinjaMunkey01

Its not a fact, some people preferred Uncharted and Gears, even MGS4.

[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]i still play it online occasionally. Im not sure what exactly guerillas goals were, but if they were to create the best console shooter out there or a console graphics king, id say they failed on both accounts. MassiveKaos

At being an above average shooter, yes, it succeeded.

At being a showpiece for graphical fidelity and animation. Yes.

At being a blockbuster hit. No. In its current state, it's not a bankable franchise. It's building, that's for sure, but KZ2 just isn't there yet.

At becoming the definitive shooter on the platform. No. It has a ways to go yet before it can be the iconic title synonymous with the PS3 brand.

Honestly, I did enjoy Killzone 2. I played multiplayer for a little while, it wasnt really difficult, and I really didnt like the controls. For me, the game is just any other FPS with a fancy coat of paint. The story was meh, the gameplay was meh, and the controls were meh. I think that without those fancy graphics youve got just any other mediocre shooter like FEAR 2, Timeshift, Quake 4 whatever. Id much rather play any Valve game, halo 3, call of duty, battlefield, or gears. Its still a good game, but like I said without the fancy graphics youve got one generic shooter on your hands.

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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] I'd like to see 2 halfs of game Sev and alpha getting off of helghan and repelling them one more time on vekta or some unknown worldAnimal-Mother

That would be amazing, I want to see the KZ2 engine on brighter worlds, I want to see how they would do it with trees and rocks, vegetation, they should do something like that.

or going inside a volcano mountain, I want to experience new settings.

This engine should be exploited :D

I think so, i read somewhere this engine is going to be used in other games, I don't really remember though if that was about the uncharted 2 engine or KZ2 engine but I think Sony parties share alot of tech.

In the god of war 3 trailer, the sky looks somehow the same as in KZ2 so I think they learned to do that from GG.

look at the first moments in the trailer.

And once uncharted 2 comes out, Killzone 2 will be a faded memory. Uncharted 2 has everything Killzone 2 has and more (yes I know theyre not both FPS's but theyre still shooters with MP) and I strongly believe it will be a better game in every category.

Well guerilla is giving access to all sony inhouse right?

I think so, i read somewhere this engine is going to be used in other games, I don't really remember though if that was about the uncharted 2 engine or KZ2 engine but I think Sony parties share alot of tech.

In the god of war 3 trailer, the sky looks somehow the same as in KZ2 so I think they learned to do that from GG.

look at the first moments in the trailer.

HAZE-Unit

I think with the engines of both KZ2 and Uncharted Sony has two superb engines to work with.

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That would be amazing, I want to see the KZ2 engine on brighter worlds, I want to see how they would do it with trees and rocks, vegetation, they should do something like that.

or going inside a volcano mountain, I want to experience new settings.

This engine should be exploited :D

HAZE-Unit

I think so, i read somewhere this engine is going to be used in other games, I don't really remember though if that was about the uncharted 2 engine or KZ2 engine but I think Sony parties share alot of tech.

In the god of war 3 trailer, the sky looks somehow the same as in KZ2 so I think they learned to do that from GG.

look at the first moments in the trailer.

If the goal was to release a great game and get good score then yea they did. End of the day I personally like it more then cod4.

Dangit well I'm in a bit of a hurry, I have work in a little bit but in short yes they did. The single player campaign was a heck of a lot of fun, one of the few FPSs that I've enjoyed and the multiplayer even though starts off slow is addictive and extremely fun.

It's a AAA title plain and simple.

i think they made the best FPS this gen so far. i alos think the payoff wasnt worth it in sales when you think about how much time and money went into it.

i think they made the best FPS this gen so far. i alos think the payoff wasnt worth it in sales when you think about how much time and money went into it.

kobraka1

Te money that went in also was a strategic choice by Sony. Guerilla was mandated to check out what the PS3 hardware is capable of and received funding accordingly.

One can probably say, they're goal was to beat HALO 3, in every department especially in the wow department which HALO combat evolved got when it was released on the original Xbox, sony wanted to turn the tables and dumped millions of dollars on a group of 150 team members, sony's plan din't go to well, I doubt they'll dump money into killzone 3, enjoy it cows the series ain't gonna get any better than this.

One can probably say, they're goal was to beat HALO 3, in every department especially in the wow department which HALO combat evolved got when it was released on the original Xbox, sony wanted to turn the tables and dumped millions of dollars on a group of 150 team members, sony's plan din't go to well, I doubt they'll dump money into killzone 3, enjoy it cows the series ain't gonna get any better than this.

_Peoples_Champ_

Yes, for me it did. I still play and the game and find it awesome.

One can probably say, they're goal was to beat HALO 3, in every department especially in the wow department which HALO combat evolved got when it was released on the original Xbox, sony wanted to turn the tables and dumped millions of dollars on a group of 150 team members, sony's plan din't go to well, I doubt they'll dump money into killzone 3, enjoy it cows the series ain't gonna get any better than this.

_Peoples_Champ_

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One can probably say, they're goal was to beat HALO 3, in every department especially in the wow department which HALO combat evolved got when it was released on the original Xbox, sony wanted to turn the tables and dumped millions of dollars on a group of 150 team members, sony's plan din't go to well, I doubt they'll dump money into killzone 3, enjoy it cows the series ain't gonna get any better than this.

Animal-Mother