Halo 4's huge trump card that automatically makes it better than 73.48% of FPSs

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]again, no one cares what you think GOGOGOGURT

Now you're just trolling at this point, I offered a valid counter arguement against the OP.

If you don't care, don't respond. Oh and PC is first place every gen.

Just because you have no friends and play splitscreen with yourself, doesn't mean you can bash on other people who do.

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

Now you're just trolling at this point, I offered a valid counter arguement against the OP.

If you don't care, don't respond. Oh and PC is first place every gen.

Jankarcop

Just because you have no friends and play splitscreen with yourself, doesn't mean you can bash on other people who do.

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

Just because you have no friends and play splitscreen with yourself, doesn't mean you can bash on other people who do.

Blabadon

[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]Lose arguement, switch to LifeStyleWars fake-bait, :lol:

kaealy

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

If you are saying that fps games are more fun with "controller, 30fps, small fov" compare to "k/m, 60fps, large fov" than you are crazy. I have nothing else to say to you.

MK-Professor

I don't understand why it's so hard for you to understand that fun isn't dependent on technical limitations. You're a prime example of the type of PC gamer that makes the rest of us look bad.

The things I mention have 100% direct relationship with gameplay an 0% relationship with technical limitations. (you may say that one of those things "fps" have to do with technical limitations, but in reality have zero relationship with technical limitations, any system can have 60fps, but the overwhelming majority of developers on consoles choose inferior gameplay "30fps" in order to get better graphics)

And again, none of that has any objective merit in determining how much fun something is.

Is playing on a single monitor any less fun than a 3 screen setup? Is using the Razer Hydra or Novint Falcon any less fun than using a keyboard and mouse? Is the Witcher 2 any less with ubersampling turned off? Do you lose sleep because there is a gamer out there somewhere with a setup that looks more like a small movie theater than a living room?

i think this might be a mistake , this is the only site reporting about 4 Player splitscreen campaign/Spartan Ops

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

If you are saying that fps games are more fun with "controller, 30fps, small fov" compare to "k/m, 60fps, large fov" than you are crazy. I have nothing else to say to you.

MK-Professor

I don't understand why it's so hard for you to understand that fun isn't dependent on technical limitations. You're a prime example of the type of PC gamer that makes the rest of us look bad.

The things I mention have 100% direct relationship with gameplay an 0% relationship with technical limitations. (you may say that one of those things "fps" have to do with technical limitations, but in reality have zero relationship with technical limitations, any system can have 60fps, but the overwhelming majority of developers on consoles choose inferior gameplay "30fps" in order to get better graphics)

There is a difference between between people who look at games and see things like "fps, field of view, what you use to control" and people who look at a game and see "This looks fun" not matter what you play it on.

That's what we've been arguing here.

Now for the predictable rebuttal.

All you are doing is insulting me.

->You stated this game will be better than 73% of FPS due to 4 player split screen coop.

-> Then I stated it will be worse than 73% of PC-FPS due to limited controls which result in a very slow paced game, a highly limited skill cap, a simpler more horizontal level design, limited AI, nothing seriouse in terms of competative play, magnetic aim, and auto aim. Thats just gameplay issues, the whole subHD and low FPS thing also doesn't really help.

Nothing I wrote was invalid. If you can boast 4 player split screen coop, I certainly can talk about the games major down sides and why most pc fps are factually superior.

All you are doing is insulting me.

->You stated this game will be better than 73% of FPS due to 4 player split screen coop.

-> Then I stated it will be worse than 73% of PC-FPS due to limited controls which result in a very slow paced game, a highly limited skill cap, a simpler more horizontal level design, limited AI, nothing seriouse in terms of competative play, magnetic aim, and auto aim. Thats just gameplay issues, the whole subHD and low FPS thing also doesn't really help.

Nothing I wrote was invalid. If you can boast 4 player split screen coop, I certainly can talk about the games major down sides and why most pc fps are factually superior.

Jankarcop

I merely wanted him to address the points instead of "NO FRENDZ!111 LUL NEW GAMER"

Ewww, smaller screens and sitting far away from a screen and a game that is already sub 1080 (possibly sub 720) resolution... What a fail thing. Just do a LAN party.

Ewww, smaller screens and sitting far away from a screen and a game that is already sub 1080 (possibly sub 720) resolution... What a fail thing. Just do a LAN party.

arto1223

All you are doing is insulting me.

->You stated this game will be better than 73% of FPS due to 4 player split screen coop.

-> Then I stated it will be worse than 73% of PC-FPS due to limited controls which result in a very slow paced game, a highly limited skill cap, a simpler more horizontal level design, limited AI, nothing seriouse in terms of competative play, magnetic aim, and auto aim. Thats just gameplay issues, the whole subHD and low FPS thing also doesn't really help.

Nothing I wrote was invalid. If you can boast 4 player split screen coop, I certainly can talk about the games major down sides and why most pc fps are factually superior.

Jankarcop

I merely wanted him to address the points instead of "NO FRENDZ!111 LUL NEW GAMER"

Jankarcop

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

I merely wanted him to address the points instead of "NO FRENDZ!111 LUL NEW GAMER"

lowe0

Says the troll alt-account.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

I merely wanted him to address the points instead of "NO FRENDZ!111 LUL NEW GAMER"

Jankarcop

Says the troll alt-account.

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Regardless of intent, does anyone who calls those who disagree with him poor really have any right to complain about feeling insulted?lowe0

Says the troll alt-account.

Why would a troll be so upset at such an accusation? Anyone see the Irony here?

Nice! This why when I play with friends we always play Halo. It always seemed much more splitscreen friendly than every other. I hope 343 can pull it off.

I was going to go with, "It's not a military shooter," but co-op works, too.

LOL at all the people in this thread with no friends. RR360DD

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]LOL at all the people in this thread with no friends. campzor

Bro I've been playing splitscreen since the N64 on small SDTV's with crappy resolution. I think Ill do just fine playing splitscreen on my much larger TV in HD.

"4-player split-screen support for its campaign"

Blabadon

I'm pretty stoked about this. Even though I don't own a 360 I will probably play through the whole campaign on launch night with some friends.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]LOL at all the people in this thread with no friends. campzor

I'm genuinely sorry that you have no irl friends and the eyesight of Helen Keller.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

I merely wanted him to address the points instead of "NO FRENDZ!111 LUL NEW GAMER"

Jankarcop

Says the troll alt-account.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

Says the troll alt-account.

Jankarcop

Why would a troll be so upset at such an accusation? Anyone see the Irony here?

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] I don't have an alt, nor am I anyone else's. If you have any evidence, I suggest that you show it.lowe0

Why would a troll be so upset at such an accusation? Anyone see the Irony here?

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

I don't understand why it's so hard for you to understand that fun isn't dependent on technical limitations. You're a prime example of the type of PC gamer that makes the rest of us look bad.

WiiCubeM1

The things I mention have 100% direct relationship with gameplay an 0% relationship with technical limitations. (you may say that one of those things "fps" have to do with technical limitations, but in reality have zero relationship with technical limitations, any system can have 60fps, but the overwhelming majority of developers on consoles choose inferior gameplay "30fps" in order to get better graphics)

There is a difference between between people who look at games and see things like "fps, field of view, what you use to control" and people who look at a game and see "This looks fun" not matter what you play it on.

That's what we've been arguing here.

Now for the predictable rebuttal.

The fact is that playing with "k/m, 60fps, large fov" the fun factor goes up, way up, compare to "controller, 30fps, small fov" (as i said earlier if you haven't really experiense games with "k/m, 60fps, large fov", then "controller, 30fps, small fov" is ok for you since you don't know what you are missing)

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

I don't understand why it's so hard for you to understand that fun isn't dependent on technical limitations. You're a prime example of the type of PC gamer that makes the rest of us look bad.

Kickinurass

The things I mention have 100% direct relationship with gameplay an 0% relationship with technical limitations. (you may say that one of those things "fps" have to do with technical limitations, but in reality have zero relationship with technical limitations, any system can have 60fps, but the overwhelming majority of developers on consoles choose inferior gameplay "30fps" in order to get better graphics)

And again, none of that has any objective merit in determining how much fun something is.

Is playing on a single monitor any less fun than a 3 screen setup? Is using the Razer Hydra or Novint Falcon any less fun than using a keyboard and mouse? Is the Witcher 2 any less with ubersampling turned off? Do you lose sleep because there is a gamer out there somewhere with a setup that looks more like a small movie theater than a living room?

on an fps game:

nobody can have more fun with controller compare to k/m

nobody can have more fun with 30fps compare to 60fps

nobody can have more fun withsmall fov compare to large fov

and so on....

I really don't see the 360 as a 4 player split screen console. Now the Wii on the other hand...

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

The things I mention have 100% direct relationship with gameplay an 0% relationship with technical limitations. (you may say that one of those things "fps" have to do with technical limitations, but in reality have zero relationship with technical limitations, any system can have 60fps, but the overwhelming majority of developers on consoles choose inferior gameplay "30fps" in order to get better graphics)

MK-Professor

And again, none of that has any objective merit in determining how much fun something is.

Is playing on a single monitor any less fun than a 3 screen setup? Is using the Razer Hydra or Novint Falcon any less fun than using a keyboard and mouse? Is the Witcher 2 any less with ubersampling turned off? Do you lose sleep because there is a gamer out there somewhere with a setup that looks more like a small movie theater than a living room?

on an fps game:

nobody can have more fun with controller compare to k/m

nobody can have more fun with 30fps compare to 60fps

nobody can have more fun withsmall fov compare to large fov

and so on....

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

Ewww, smaller screens and sitting far away from a screen and a game that is already sub 1080 (possibly sub 720) resolution... What a fail thing. Just do a LAN party.

lowe0

Hell yeah it's the best man.

Trolol...

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="arto1223"]

Ewww, smaller screens and sitting far away from a screen and a game that is already sub 1080 (possibly sub 720) resolution... What a fail thing. Just do a LAN party.

GOGOGOGURT

Hell yeah it's the best man.

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] I was playing CoD and Reach at a friend's lately. His TV is much smaller than mine, but it was FUN. More fun than I've had online in a while. Drinking homebrew, talking trash, busting balls.lowe0

Hell yeah it's the best man.

It's perfect for me too! It's a great substitute for the waaay overplayed beer pong at parties...

All you are doing is insulting me.

->You stated this game will be better than 73% of FPS due to 4 player split screen coop.

-> Then I stated it will be worse than 73% of PC-FPS due to limited controls which result in a very slow paced game, a highly limited skill cap, a simpler more horizontal level design, limited AI, nothing seriouse in terms of competative play, magnetic aim, and auto aim. Thats just gameplay issues, the whole subHD and low FPS thing also doesn't really help.

Nothing I wrote was invalid. If you can boast 4 player split screen coop, I certainly can talk about the games major down sides and why most pc fps are factually superior.

Jankarcop

Still no fact based rebuttal?

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

All you are doing is insulting me.

->You stated this game will be better than 73% of FPS due to 4 player split screen coop.

-> Then I stated it will be worse than 73% of PC-FPS due to limited controls which result in a very slow paced game, a highly limited skill cap, a simpler more horizontal level design, limited AI, nothing seriouse in terms of competative play, magnetic aim, and auto aim. Thats just gameplay issues, the whole subHD and low FPS thing also doesn't really help.

Nothing I wrote was invalid. If you can boast 4 player split screen coop, I certainly can talk about the games major down sides and why most pc fps are factually superior.

Jankarcop

Still no fact based rebuttal?

If you want one so bad why don't you make up your own.

Given that you're too lonley for splitscreen.

That was a troll/insult, not a rebuttal.

That was a troll/insult, not a rebuttal.

Jankarcop

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

The things I mention have 100% direct relationship with gameplay an 0% relationship with technical limitations. (you may say that one of those things "fps" have to do with technical limitations, but in reality have zero relationship with technical limitations, any system can have 60fps, but the overwhelming majority of developers on consoles choose inferior gameplay "30fps" in order to get better graphics)

MK-Professor

And again, none of that has any objective merit in determining how much fun something is.

Is playing on a single monitor any less fun than a 3 screen setup? Is using the Razer Hydra or Novint Falcon any less fun than using a keyboard and mouse? Is the Witcher 2 any less with ubersampling turned off? Do you lose sleep because there is a gamer out there somewhere with a setup that looks more like a small movie theater than a living room?

on an fps game:

nobody can have more fun with controller compare to k/m

nobody can have more fun with 30fps compare to 60fps

nobody can have more fun withsmall fov compare to large fov

and so on....

I'm 99% sure that Mario Kart is the king of split screen. Halo is worthy runner-up though. Can't think of many else.

on an fps game:

nobody can have more fun with controller compare to k/m

nobody can have more fun with 30fps compare to 60fps

nobody can have more fun withsmall fov compare to large fov

and so on....

MK-Professor

I can. In fact, I do so quite frequently. Youll see my Steam games I have played Portal, Portal 2, Stalker: SoC and CoP for no more than an hour each. Good games, but compared to my playtime in Halo - the entertainment value isn't even close. Even Borderlands, which I had played 17 hours, falls far behind my playtime in Halo. Hell, Borderlands on PC probably barely edges out the demo for Perfect Dark Zero my brother and I used to play at the beginning of gen.

So, now that we shot that stupid line of thought down, what's next? Another attempt to support your opinion with half-baked facts and outright lies or will you just admit your completely wrong?

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

All you are doing is insulting me.

->You stated this game will be better than 73% of FPS due to 4 player split screen coop.

-> Then I stated it will be worse than 73% of PC-FPS due to limited controls which result in a very slow paced game, a highly limited skill cap, a simpler more horizontal level design, limited AI, nothing seriouse in terms of competative play, magnetic aim, and auto aim. Thats just gameplay issues, the whole subHD and low FPS thing also doesn't really help.

Nothing I wrote was invalid. If you can boast 4 player split screen coop, I certainly can talk about the games major down sides and why most pc fps are factually superior.

Jankarcop

Still no fact based rebuttal?

[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]LOL at all the people in this thread with no friends. Vraeth

I'm genuinely sorry that you have no irl friends and the eyesight of Helen Keller.

Halo is the only reason I regret selling my 360. I'll definitely be bother my friends when this is released.

[QUOTE="Vraeth"]

[QUOTE="campzor"] http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/55111/55111,1188919845,2/stock-vector--binoculars-vector-5079307.jpg" alt=" " /> have fun. Dont squint too muchcampzor

I'm genuinely sorry that you have no irl friends and the eyesight of Helen Keller.