can someone please just post honest pics of both games so we can end this thread, I swear the tc is trying to stir up something....... yea reach looks better than halo 3 but killzone........ thats a big no
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can someone please just post honest pics of both games so we can end this thread, I swear the tc is trying to stir up something....... yea reach looks better than halo 3 but killzone........ thats a big no
PLEASE SEE LINK!!!
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-halo-reach-tech-analysis-article
Yeah halo reach is the current FPS graphic king on console:
Yes i've played killzone 2 & i did a direct comparison between reach & killzone 2 at home what i found out is that killzone 2 has some good effects (post processing effects,destructible enviroments & deffered lighting) but it has flaws like:
#1. lack of colours
#2. Tight linear corridor confined enviroments.
#3. less amount of enemies onscreen
#4. No split screen co-op campaign.
#5. low res enviromental textures.
COMPARED TO
Halo reach with
#1. 4 times lager enviromental scale than halo 3(despite how big halo 3 scale is).
#2. More than 40 dynamic smart AI on screen at once.
#3. More than 40 dynamic HDR light effect.
#4. Different colour array in background.
#4. Full 3d rendered epic skybox.
#5. 4 players split screen co-op campaign local & online.
So technicaly no game stresses a console as halo reach does.
The truth is that GG used tricks & shortcuts like limiting colours,limiting scales & AI on screen to archieve killzone 2 vissuals while bungie didnt sacrifice or use any form of trick such as limiting colours or limiting enviromental scales to archieve halo reach's visual.
Halo reach' sandbox large scale enviroment,huge amounts of smart AI on screen & finally meeting 720p hd & increased poly counts is a big K.O to killzone 2.
TRUTH is bitter.monkeysmoke
Its funny how you call out GG for using 'tricks' when Halo Reach uses just about every trick in the book to try to maintain its 30fps/sub HD, HDR lighting, fake backdrops, temporal AA, etc.
Reach is an overall impressive game(congrates to Bungie), but its still using a slightly updated Halo 3 engine as Killzone 2 was a huge leap from Killzone 1.
Reach is only comparable to Resistance 2 at best.
Well I'm not saying KZ2 destroys reach either. I just don't think it's 'King' of graphics. If KZ3 removes the grain filter, and gets the textures right and tones down the motion blur they'll be set.Killzone 2 has great textures! Its just that Reach has more hi-res textures in more areas. I like th grain filter and I hope they keep it. It wasn't that evident IMO.[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Lol, you wanna talk about excessive look at KZ2.TREAL_Since
What I'm happy about is the new AA they are using. TheQuincunx AA used in KZ2 made things more blurrier than we are used to in games. Looking at the gameplay videos of KZ3, it looks really clean. The edges are smooth, but not as smudged as KZ2.
Right it had good textures until reach came out. What I meant is if textures on KZ3 are better they'll have no problem keeping up with reach or even crysis 2 on consoles.That's from the beta. :roll:Oops, don't they look the same anyway? :P
tonitorsi
EDIT: Which is why you deleted your post.
Is it so hard to admit that the PS3 can produce better graphics than the 360 ?zekereIs it so hard to admit that the 360 can also produce better graphics than the PS3?
You just cant handle the truth that halo reach is the graphics king of consoles.No..just no
finalstar2007
That's from the beta. :roll:[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]
Oops, don't they look the same anyway? :P
SpiritOfFire117
EDIT: Which is why you deleted your post.
Is there a noticeable graphical difference from the Beta? I didn't notice from when I played it (other than some ruble and burn marks on the wall in Swordbase).FPS graphics king... on consoles? Can we get anymore specific than that? lol There's only one king. If you want to debate Killzone 2 versus Halo Reach, by all means do it. But don't bring those darn terms into the discussion. :PStevo_the_gamer
If you can't beat them, join them. I'm thinking of making a "Hack n' Slash Graphics King on Handheld " for the next God of War game. :P
You just cant handle the truth that halo reach is the graphics king of consoles. Gears of War 3 will even raise the Reach bar.[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]
No..just no
slipknot0129
This reminds me of the "Best Selling HD Exclusive" thread a while back. lol xDIf you can't beat them, join them. I'm thinking of making a "Hack n' Slash Graphics King on Handheld " for the next God of War game. :P
Lionheart08
This reminds me of the "Best Selling HD Exclusive" thread a while back. lol xD[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]
If you can't beat them, join them. I'm thinking of making a "Hack n' Slash Graphics King on Handheld " for the next God of War game. :P
Stevo_the_gamer
Can't believe I missed that. :lol:
FPS graphics king... on consoles? Can we get anymore specific than that? lol There's only one king. If you want to debate Killzone 2 versus Halo Reach, by all means do it. But don't bring those darn terms into the discussion. :PStevo_the_gamerI think we canbring just about any term into discussion. New terms are usually accepted if they make sense. Console graphics king, IMO, makes much sense considering the PS3 and 360 are quite close to one another in terms of hardware. Not to mention it's permanent hadware.
Adding genre comparisons ON TOP of platform specifics into the mix is funny lol. Shoot man, this is anarchy and within the rules of a TC's thread, basically anything goes.
Its hard to find a picture of Reach not resembling Halo 3. Ah, you get the point. :P
at least your last three pics are a little closer to the comparison. i'm sure you've played reach, right? i mean, all your posts seem so unbiased and objective, i would assume you have some experience with a game you bash.Again, that's from the beta and the exact same pic you deleted.[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]
[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]
Thats Halo 3?? Could have fooled meh :P
There, my bad Lemmos.
tonitorsi
No wait. I believe the bold shows your intent here.
EDIT: You seem to be on a streak of insulting users and deleting your posts. ;)
You know, its hard to find a picture of Reach not resembling Halo 3. Ah, you get the point. :P
Here
Hope this helps
Edit: You're supposed to be proud of Reach graphical benchmark on consoles, not insulted. :P
You just showed us that in fact Reach does look better, lol.[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]at least your last three pics are a little closer to the comparison. i'm sure you've played reach, right? i mean, all your posts seem so unbiased and objective, i would assume you have some experience with a game you bash.Not to mention he's deleted his previous posts. That says something.Its hard to find a picture of Reach not resembling Halo 3. Ah, you get the point. :P
clone01
[QUOTE="CuteCakes"]Cows just can't HANDLE how good Halo: Reach is, can they :DdarthogreI think it's more Lems can't handle that PS3 games are just better graphically when talking about exclusives. I honestly don't think Killzone 2 is that great graphically. I thought it was so bland, and it overuse of motion blur (being sluggish didn't help out either) and an overdone of post processing effects to hide the bad textures. Now, Uncharted 2 is something that's pretty good and stands out from the crowd amongst the consoles, but Killzone 2? Egh. Not a fan, personally.
OH! I love playing this system wars game!! :)
ReaperV7
That first KZ2 pic shows off some pretty low res textures, but you made your point. Might also let Lemmings realize how close the two are in their color pallette as well. (Out of the first pics for both games, KZ2 seems to have slightly more color in there, lol).
I would imagine that Killzone 2 would not look anywhere near as "good" as it does if its environments were as large as those in Halo Reach.CuteCakesKZ3 reportedly will have 10 times larger environments than the first game, so I think you should reconsider your claim.
I know cows will never accept the truth but i've just proved my point with the almighty DIGITAL FOUNDRY tech analisys. Cows will keep on yelling killzone 2 looks better even though killzone 2 did nothing spectacular (just a linear corridor shooter). Halo reach has lots of unique effects especialy tesselation which must have made it possible render so many polygons in a single scene without severe performance hit. NOTE: the playstation 3 has no tessellator so it a safe to say that ps3 will break if it attempts runs a game like halo reach. Cows us to say that say 360 couldnt run killzone 2 because of its differed renderer.monkeysmoke
- First Person cover system?
- Some of the best AI this gen?
- Best looking console game?
- Scored 9/10 on GS, Metacritics, and Userscores?
- Took a practically dead game and turned it into one of the top console FPS franchises?
^^ Pretty spectacular stuff, expectially the last one.
[QUOTE="monkeysmoke"]I know cows will never accept the truth but i've just proved my point with the almighty DIGITAL FOUNDRY tech analisys. Cows will keep on yelling killzone 2 looks better even though killzone 2 did nothing spectacular (just a linear corridor shooter). Halo reach has lots of unique effects especialy tesselation which must have made it possible render so many polygons in a single scene without severe performance hit. NOTE: the playstation 3 has no tessellator so it a safe to say that ps3 will break if it attempts runs a game like halo reach. Cows us to say that say 360 couldnt run killzone 2 because of its differed renderer.xYamatox
- First Person cover system?
- Some of the best AI this gen?
- Best looking console game?
- Scored 9/10 on GS, Metacritics, and Userscores?
- Took a practically dead game and turned it into one of the top console FPS franchises?
^^ Pretty spectacular stuff, expectially the last one.
lol nice :D[QUOTE="monkeysmoke"]I know cows will never accept the truth but i've just proved my point with the almighty DIGITAL FOUNDRY tech analisys. Cows will keep on yelling killzone 2 looks better even though killzone 2 did nothing spectacular (just a linear corridor shooter). Halo reach has lots of unique effects especialy tesselation which must have made it possible render so many polygons in a single scene without severe performance hit. NOTE: the playstation 3 has no tessellator so it a safe to say that ps3 will break if it attempts runs a game like halo reach. Cows us to say that say 360 couldnt run killzone 2 because of its differed renderer.xYamatox
- First Person cover system? Wasnt the first for that I think Rainbow Six Vegas covered that one!!!
- Some of the best AI this gen? Ya right the Hellghans run around in circles looking for a place to hide and when they do finally they poke there heads out at two different spots!
- Best looking console game? Ya if Halo Reach was crammed into a cab on a linear route it would look the same if not better than KZ2
- Scored 9/10 on GS, Metacritics, and Userscores? Got me there!
- Took a practically dead game and turned it into one of the top console FPS franchises? It's so popular that hardly anyone plays it online, Oh and still The Halo Killer it is NOT and will never be!!
^^ Pretty spectacular stuff, expectially the last one. Not Really! :)
It doesn't have better AI.ok im halo fan too but kz2 does had large environments too,look at pyrrhus rise (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRnt0NKsB2w) most likely bigger than Boneyard,kz2 does have better ai than reach
Vader993
That's from the beta. :roll:[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]
[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]
Oops, don't they look the same anyway? :P
TREAL_Since
EDIT: Which is why you deleted your post.
Is there a noticeable graphical difference from the Beta? I didn't notice from when I played it (other than some ruble and burn marks on the wall in Swordbase).To me it looked a little darker. But you aren't defending him are you? :|Please Log In to post.
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