HALO REACH is the current FPS graphic king on console. Not KILLZONE 2 anymore.

ok im halo fan too but kz2 does had large environments too,look at pyrrhus rise (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRnt0NKsB2w) most likely bigger than Boneyard,kz2 does have better ai than reach

[QUOTE="deleterguy"][QUOTE="Vader993"]

ok im halo fan too but kz2 does had large environments too,look at pyrrhus rise (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRnt0NKsB2w) most likely bigger than Boneyard,kz2 does have better ai than reach

hoosier7

[QUOTE="hoosier7"][QUOTE="deleterguy"] It doesn't have better AI.TroyM1

i beat it

[QUOTE="hoosier7"][QUOTE="deleterguy"] It doesn't have better AI.TroyM1

[QUOTE="TroyM1"]

[QUOTE="hoosier7"] Personally i think it does, on Reach i've had to melee my team mates to try and get them to move, get involved, or take up a decent position, with Killzone you don't see your team mates taking a million bullets all the time. I don't think Reach's enemies are too much better, all they really do is the odd dive and a bit of a scuttle side to side. I've never been fragged or flanked by any of the AI on Reach.hoosier7

[QUOTE="hoosier7"][QUOTE="TroyM1"]Ya right the Hellghans run around in circles looking for a place to hide and when they do finally they poke there heads out at two different spots! Oh and try Playin Reach on Heroic or Legendary!! Big difference

lol crysis says hi lol didn't read console king but UC2 is way better looking than reach

... then Gran Turismo 5 comes out and ends the debate forever.

[QUOTE="TroyM1"]

[QUOTE="hoosier7"] I have, the main difference on Legendary is not improved AI, but that opponents can simply take more bullets.hoosier7

The entire article is comparing reach to halo3, which was disappointing graphically even at release.

[QUOTE="hoosier7"][QUOTE="TroyM1"] You are Wrong on that one and the fact youve never been fragged tells me that you are a liar I dont care if you made that game there is no way! Atleast your not arguing the fact I called the AI in KZ2 stupid.

Is it so hard to admit that the PS3 can produce better graphics than the 360 ? the 360 is a good console, it really is , but the PS3 can use tricks the 360 cannot, due to its architecture . The cell can do graphics, the processor of the 360 cannot . Halo Reach doesn't have better graphics than Uncharted2 . A 360 game will never have better graphics then Uncharted 2 . It's hard to face the truth ...

zekere

[QUOTE="Basinboy"]

Uh, no, Reach's graphics are mediocre at best. Plus come March 2011, Crysis 2 will blow them both away.

SpiritOfFire117

Stylistically, Reach is so much better than Crysis 2 it's not even funny. I like what I've seen of it's graphical approach far more than anything I've seen of Crysis 2 yet.

PLEASE SEE LINK!!!

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-halo-reach-tech-analysis-article

Yeah halo reach is the current FPS graphic king on console:
Yes i've played killzone 2 & i did a direct comparison between reach & killzone 2 at home what i found out is that killzone 2 has some good effects (post processing effects,destructible enviroments & deffered lighting) but it has flaws like:
#1. lack of colours

#2. Tight linear corridor confined enviroments.

#3. less amount of enemies onscreen

#4. No split screen co-op campaign.

#5. low res enviromental textures.
COMPARED TO
Halo reach with
#1. 4 times lager enviromental scale than halo 3(despite how big halo 3 scale is).

#2. More than 40 dynamic smart AI on screen at once.

#3. More than 40 dynamic HDR light effect.

#4. Different colour array in background.

#4. Full 3d rendered epic skybox.

#5. 4 players split screen co-op campaign local & online.

So technicaly no game stresses a console as halo reach does.

The truth is that GG used tricks & shortcuts like limiting colours,limiting scales & AI on screen to archieve killzone 2 vissuals while bungie didnt sacrifice or use any form of trick such as limiting colours or limiting enviromental scales to archieve halo reach's visual.

Halo reach' sandbox large scale enviroment,huge amounts of smart AI on screen & finally meeting 720p hd & increased poly counts is a big K.O to killzone 2.

TRUTH is bitter.

monkeysmoke

Oh you level 10's. :roll:

Seems like a lot of lemmings like this are rolling out of the wood work recently. Could it be jealousy that I smell. :P

[QUOTE="hoosier7"][QUOTE="deleterguy"] It doesn't have better AI.TroyM1

Ok.

[QUOTE="TroyM1"]

[QUOTE="hoosier7"] Personally i think it does, on Reach i've had to melee my team mates to try and get them to move, get involved, or take up a decent position, with Killzone you don't see your team mates taking a million bullets all the time. I don't think Reach's enemies are too much better, all they really do is the odd dive and a bit of a scuttle side to side. I've never been fragged or flanked by any of the AI on Reach.bizzy420

What world of war highest difficulty is cheap,all they do is overwhelmed you with grenades

tolololo

Cronik959

[QUOTE="Cronik959"]

tolololo

TroyM1

You only need 2GB or ram and a 130$ video card :OOOOOOO.

Yea another $350 graphics card and 10 gigs of ram and ill be ready for this one game too cant wait!!! lol!!

TroyM1

I play it on a $150 (currently) GPU and 4gb RAM. The 4870 is still a beast to this day, but FFXIV has forced me into an upgrade :(

[QUOTE="TroyM1"]

[QUOTE="Cronik959"]

tolololo

Cronik959

You only need 2GB or ram and a 150$ video card :OOOOOOO.

[QUOTE="TroyM1"]

Yea another $350 graphics card and 10 gigs of ram and ill be ready for this one game too cant wait!!! lol!!

lundy86_4

I play it on a $150 (currently) GPU and 4gb RAM. The 4870 is still a beast to this day, but FFXIV has forced me into an upgrade :(

150 just for one game,the reason why i will never be a pc gamer

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="TroyM1"]

Yea another $350 graphics card and 10 gigs of ram and ill be ready for this one game too cant wait!!! lol!!

Vader993

I play it on a $150 (currently) GPU and 4gb RAM. The 4870 is still a beast to this day, but FFXIV has forced me into an upgrade :(

150 just for one game,the reason why i will never be a pc gamer

Huh? The GPU plays a lot of games. Where are you getting the $150 just for one game?

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="TroyM1"]

Yea another $350 graphics card and 10 gigs of ram and ill be ready for this one game too cant wait!!! lol!!

Vader993

I play it on a $150 (currently) GPU and 4gb RAM. The 4870 is still a beast to this day, but FFXIV has forced me into an upgrade :(

150 just for one game,the reason why i will never be a pc gamer

if it's not the best looking game on any system then it's not any kind of king. there's only one king. would you settle for graphics prince?

CaseyWegner

Um theres only one king? Excuse me? Did Sparta have a king? yes . Did Persia have a king? yes

Can the xbox have its king? Yes Can the PS3 have its king ? Yes

Is Halo Reach any kind of king? NO

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="TroyM1"]

Yea another $350 graphics card and 10 gigs of ram and ill be ready for this one game too cant wait!!! lol!!

Vader993

I play it on a $150 (currently) GPU and 4gb RAM. The 4870 is still a beast to this day, but FFXIV has forced me into an upgrade :(

150 just for one game,the reason why i will never be a pc gamer

No, I buy a $150 video card to play all the games in this website. STEAM YOU NOOB

Halo Reach doesnt hold a candle , to KZ2 nice try though.

if it's not the best looking game on any system then it's not any kind of king. there's only one king. would you settle for graphics prince?

CaseyWegner

Like i already said, KZ2 looks a bit better but considering everything Reach does, it´s probably more impressive from a technical stand point.

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

No..just no

Bogie_19th

Ok.

Cronik959

Oh look, shocker, another crysis pic in a console graphics thread.

[QUOTE="hoosier7"][QUOTE="deleterguy"] It doesn't have better AI.TroyM1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnvyRw60tAY

^^ Basically renders your whole arguement null and void...

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

if it's not the best looking game on any system then it's not any kind of king. there's only one king. would you settle for graphics prince?

Advid-Gamer

I couldnt agree with you more.

[QUOTE="TroyM1"]

[QUOTE="hoosier7"] Personally i think it does, on Reach i've had to melee my team mates to try and get them to move, get involved, or take up a decent position, with Killzone you don't see your team mates taking a million bullets all the time. I don't think Reach's enemies are too much better, all they really do is the odd dive and a bit of a scuttle side to side. I've never been fragged or flanked by any of the AI on Reach.xYamatox

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnvyRw60tAY

^^ Basically renders your whole arguement null and void...

[QUOTE="TroyM1"]

Personally i think it does, on Reach i've had to melee my team mates to try and get them to move, get involved, or take up a decent position, with Killzone you don't see your team mates taking a million bullets all the time. I don't think Reach's enemies are too much better, all they really do is the odd dive and a bit of a scuttle side to side. I've never been fragged or flanked by any of the AI on Reach.hoosier7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnvyRw60tAY

^^ Basically renders your whole arguement null and void...

[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

[QUOTE="TroyM1"]Ya right the Hellghans run around in circles looking for a place to hide and when they do finally they poke there heads out at two different spots! Oh and try Playin Reach on Heroic or Legendary!! Big difference

walkingdream

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnvyRw60tAY

^^ Basically renders your whole arguement null and void...

ok im halo fan too but kz2 does had large environments too,look at pyrrhus rise (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRnt0NKsB2w) most likely bigger than Boneyard,kz2 does have better ai than reach

Vader993

[QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="xYamatox"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnvyRw60tAY

^^ Basically renders your whole arguement null and void...

nervmeister

[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="walkingdream"] Reach Elites = Some of the best enemy AI i've ever encounted in a FPSwalkingdream

[QUOTE="mystervj"]So what did I miss? Is lemmings still claiming console gfx king for FPS over KZ2? Oh and I don't care about AI comparisons, if it's functional and impressive enough, then it's all good.CuteCakes

[QUOTE="CuteCakes"][QUOTE="mystervj"]So what did I miss? Is lemmings still claiming console gfx king for FPS over KZ2? Oh and I don't care about AI comparisons, if it's functional and impressive enough, then it's all good.hoosier7