[QUOTE="CuteCakes"] So you don't care about gameplay? Cows only care about graphicsYes. This thread desperately trying to claim that 360 is superior in graphics was made by a cow. :roll:
Not really. Reach is definitely a big step up from Halo 3, and even rivals KZ2 in some aspects, but KZ2 is still better looking thanks to animations and post production effects.
No no no, reach maybe bigger but Kz2 definitly has better graphical fidelity It might be because they use shortcuts with lighting, and its a bit heavy on corriders and very scripted... but it still designed to look better, halo is designed to play better
[QUOTE="TroyM1"]Ya right the Hellghans run around in circles looking for a place to hide and when they do finally they poke there heads out at two different spots! Oh and try Playin Reach on Heroic or Legendary!! Big difference
walkingdream
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnvyRw60tAY
^^ Basically renders your whole arguement null and void...
Reach Elites = Some of the best enemy AI i've ever encounted in a FPS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygmD8KYHI9w
^^ O Rly...?
Love how they just stand there in the open, waiting to get shot...and then when they are shot, just stand there and take it. The smartest tactic Elites have is to strafe jump side to side every so often...
[QUOTE="hoosier7"][QUOTE="CuteCakes"] So you don't care about gameplay? Cows only care about graphics, Sony should just release story books over PSN and stop making games. Halo Reach is a much more appealing, good looking game than Grosszone 2.CuteCakes
? Cows only care about graphics? Yet you post in a thread claiming a 360 exclusive is graphically superior to a PS3 exclusive? Yep, but I don't go around pretending like gameplay doesn't matter.I like how you're switching the argument to gameplay after losing the graphics debate. Oh, and if KZ2 didn't have excellent gameplay, it wouldn't have gotten AAA here or elsewhere.
I eagerly anticipate the day when people stop using this lame and long worn-out response. On topic, FPSs in general must not have very good graphics if Halo Reach is the best-looking of the bunch.
[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="CuteCakes"][QUOTE="hoosier7"] ? Cows only care about graphics? Yet you post in a thread claiming a 360 exclusive is graphically superior to a PS3 exclusive? Yep, but I don't go around pretending like gameplay doesn't matter.I like how you're switching the argument to gameplay after losing the graphics debate. Oh, and if KZ2 didn't have excellent gameplay, it wouldn't have gotten AAA here or elsewhere. I'm not switching anything, if you see the comment I originally quoted you would understand your error.
^^ Basically renders your whole arguement null and void...
Reach Elites = Some of the best enemy AI i've ever encounted in a FPS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygmD8KYHI9w
^^ O Rly...?
Love how they just stand there in the open, waiting to get shot...and then when they are shot, just stand there and take it. The smartest tactic Elites have is to strafe jump side to side every so often...
Finally this is the point i've been getting at! This is the experience i have had, i think this may be down to playing style as he takes vantage points and routes i would in games taking me "out of range" of enemies. Up close prehaps the AI is superb, i wouldn't know.
^^ Basically renders your whole arguement null and void...
xYamatox
Reach Elites = Some of the best enemy AI i've ever encounted in a FPS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygmD8KYHI9w
^^ O Rly...?
Love how they just stand there in the open, waiting to get shot...and then when they are shot, just stand there and take it. The smartest tactic Elites have is to strafe jump side to side every so often...
I'm sorry I'm willing to admit KZ2 does indeed look better, but you have not played reach if you think the elites AI is no good. At least anything higher than Heroic
^^ Basically renders your whole arguement null and void...
xYamatox
Reach Elites = Some of the best enemy AI i've ever encounted in a FPS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygmD8KYHI9w
^^ O Rly...?
Love how they just stand there in the open, waiting to get shot...and then when they are shot, just stand there and take it. The smartest tactic Elites have is to strafe jump side to side every so often...
they are playing on normal... there is a very big difference granted elites only pursue so far so even on legendary they can be outsmarted
edit: but even if you do empty clips on them from a distance, they just run for cover and regen, elites are so brutal on legendary :(
Halo Reach it looks a lot better than KZ2 but it have not better graphics than God of War 3 and U2.But again Halo Reach is one of the best looking games on the XBOX360.
^^ Basically renders your whole arguement null and void...
xYamatox
Reach Elites = Some of the best enemy AI i've ever encounted in a FPS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygmD8KYHI9w
^^ O Rly...?
Love how they just stand there in the open, waiting to get shot...and then when they are shot, just stand there and take it. The smartest tactic Elites have is to strafe jump side to side every so often...
Normal? Oh. Never seen them do that on Heroic, they always seem to be moving, which lead to many intense fights.
[QUOTE="CuteCakes"][QUOTE="mystervj"]So what did I miss? Is lemmings still claiming console gfx king for FPS over KZ2? Oh and I don't care about AI comparisons, if it's functional and impressive enough, then it's all good. So you don't care about gameplay? Cows only care about graphics, Sony should just release story books over PSN and stop making games. Halo Reach is a much more appealing, good looking game than Grosszone 2. Did I say anything about gameplay? This thread is about gfx, and it's absolutely hilarious :lol:
[QUOTE="CuteCakes"][QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="CuteCakes"] Yep, but I don't go around pretending like gameplay doesn't matter.I like how you're switching the argument to gameplay after losing the graphics debate. Oh, and if KZ2 didn't have excellent gameplay, it wouldn't have gotten AAA here or elsewhere. I'm not switching anything, if you see the comment I originally quoted you would understand your error. Before, all you did was try and downplay KZ2's graphics. And now you're acting as if you never cared about graphics. So I made no error.
[QUOTE="CuteCakes"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]I like how you're switching the argument to gameplay after losing the graphics debate. Oh, and if KZ2 didn't have excellent gameplay, it wouldn't have gotten AAA here or elsewhere.nervmeister
I'm not switching anything, if you see the comment I originally quoted you would understand your error. Before, all you did was try and downplay KZ2's graphics. And now you're acting as if you never cared about graphics. So I made no error. What graphics?
[QUOTE="mystervj"][QUOTE="CuteCakes"][QUOTE="mystervj"]So what did I miss? Is lemmings still claiming console gfx king for FPS over KZ2? Oh and I don't care about AI comparisons, if it's functional and impressive enough, then it's all good. So you don't care about gameplay? Cows only care about graphics, Sony should just release story books over PSN and stop making games. Halo Reach is a much more appealing, good looking game than Grosszone 2. Did I say anything about gameplay? This thread is about gfx, and it's absolutely hilarious :lol: Yeah. you dismissed AI as if it were secondary to graphics.
[QUOTE="walkingdream"] Reach Elites = Some of the best enemy AI i've ever encounted in a FPSnervmeister
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygmD8KYHI9w
^^ O Rly...?
You realize it's on Normal difficulty, right?
WHat's your point? Unless the game is specifically designed to have the AI become smarter with difficulty changes, it being on Normal is good enough. What, do the enemies need an abserd amount of health just to put up a fight?
[QUOTE="mystervj"][QUOTE="CuteCakes"] So you don't care about gameplay? Cows only care about graphics, Sony should just release story books over PSN and stop making games. Halo Reach is a much more appealing, good looking game than Grosszone 2.CuteCakes
Did I say anything about gameplay? This thread is about gfx, and it's absolutely hilarious :lol: Yeah. you dismissed AI as if it were secondary to graphics. if we are talkign about graphics it is
[QUOTE="walkingdream"] Reach Elites = Some of the best enemy AI i've ever encounted in a FPSwalkingdream
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygmD8KYHI9w
^^ O Rly...?
Love how they just stand there in the open, waiting to get shot...and then when they are shot, just stand there and take it. The smartest tactic Elites have is to strafe jump side to side every so often...
I'm sorry I'm willing to admit KZ2 does indeed look better, but you have not played reach if you think the elites AI is no good. At least anything higher than Heroic To be fair though, the Helghast have no regenerating shields or health.
[QUOTE="CuteCakes"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]I like how you're switching the argument to gameplay after losing the graphics debate. Oh, and if KZ2 didn't have excellent gameplay, it wouldn't have gotten AAA here or elsewhere.nervmeister
I'm not switching anything, if you see the comment I originally quoted you would understand your error. Before, all you did was try and downplay KZ2's graphics. And now you're acting as if you never cared about graphics. So I made no error.
WHat's your point? Unless the game is specifically designed to have the AI become smarter with difficulty changes, it being on Normal is good enough. What, do the enemies need an abserd amount of health just to put up a fight?
well they scale and assume the user can't really aim well on easy/normal, i don't think playing overly cautious is necessary so your better off running in gunz a blazin
[QUOTE="CuteCakes"][QUOTE="mystervj"][QUOTE="CuteCakes"] So you don't care about gameplay? Cows only care about graphics, Sony should just release story books over PSN and stop making games. Halo Reach is a much more appealing, good looking game than Grosszone 2. Did I say anything about gameplay? This thread is about gfx, and it's absolutely hilarious :lol: Yeah. you dismissed AI as if it were secondary to graphics. Where did I dismiss AI as secondary to gfx? I only dismissed the comparison.
WHat's your point? Unless the game is specifically designed to have the AI become smarter with difficulty changes, it being on Normal is good enough. What, do the enemies need an abserd amount of health just to put up a fight?
WHat's your point? Unless the game is specifically designed to have the AI become smarter with difficulty changes, it being on Normal is good enough. What, do the enemies need an abserd amount of health just to put up a fight?
On harder difficulties they are more aggressive attacking you and loves to dodge more, even Bungie said to play it on Heroic was a better experience since even they knew Normal was still easy.
[QUOTE="walkingdream"] Reach Elites = Some of the best enemy AI i've ever encounted in a FPSmitu123
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygmD8KYHI9w
^^ O Rly...?
Love how they just stand there in the open, waiting to get shot...and then when they are shot, just stand there and take it. The smartest tactic Elites have is to strafe jump side to side every so often...
Normal? Oh. Never seen them do that on Heroic, they always seem to be moving, which lead to many intense fights.
My first run through Reach was on Heroic, and it played exactly like the video I presented. The AI is nothing to gloat about. Even on Legendary, where the game get's it's difficulty off numbers (Health vs Damage) and not smart AI, Plasma Pistol + DMR headshot = dead Elite. AFter that, the grunts spend the rest of the fight running away...
Love how they just stand there in the open, waiting to get shot...and then when they are shot, just stand there and take it. The smartest tactic Elites have is to strafe jump side to side every so often...
nervmeister
I'm sorry I'm willing to admit KZ2 does indeed look better, but you have not played reach if you think the elites AI is no good. At least anything higher than Heroic To be fair though, the Helghast have no regenerating shields or health.
Yeah, they just like to stand out in the open looking around being bullet sponges while looking like they were made out of grey, blurry clay.
And don't get me started on the canned AI and animations. Every area of KZ2 plays out like the last time you played it, whether it be on the left hand side of the corridor or the right hand side of the grey (sometimes red or brown!) corridor. Unlike Halo Reach which is mostly a different experience every time you play it, especially on higher difficulty levels.
[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="walkingdream"] I'm sorry I'm willing to admit KZ2 does indeed look better, but you have not played reach if you think the elites AI is no good. At least anything higher than Heroic CuteCakes
To be fair though, the Helghast have no regenerating shields or health.
Yeah, they just like to stand out in the open looking around being bullet sponges while looking like they were made out of grey, blurry clay.
And don't get me started on the canned AI and animations. Every area of KZ2 plays out like the last time you played it, whether it be on the left hand side of the corridor or the right hand side of the grey (sometimes red or brown!) corridor. Unlike Halo Reach which is mostly a different experience every time you play it, especially on higher difficulty levels.
[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="walkingdream"] I'm sorry I'm willing to admit KZ2 does indeed look better, but you have not played reach if you think the elites AI is no good. At least anything higher than Heroic CuteCakes
To be fair though, the Helghast have no regenerating shields or health.
Yeah, they just like to stand out in the open looking around being bullet sponges while looking like they were made out of grey, blurry clay.
And don't get me started on the canned AI and animations. Every area of KZ2 plays out like the last time you played it, whether it be on the left hand side of the corridor or the right hand side of the grey (sometimes red or brown!) corridor. Unlike Halo Reach which is mostly a different experience every time you play it, especially on higher difficulty levels.
[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="walkingdream"] I'm sorry I'm willing to admit KZ2 does indeed look better, but you have not played reach if you think the elites AI is no good. At least anything higher than Heroic CuteCakes
To be fair though, the Helghast have no regenerating shields or health.
Yeah, they just like to stand out in the open looking around being bullet sponges while looking like they were made out of grey, blurry clay.< You clearly haven't played the game if that's your so-called account of it.
Love how they just stand there in the open, waiting to get shot...and then when they are shot, just stand there and take it. The smartest tactic Elites have is to strafe jump side to side every so often...
Normal? Oh. Never seen them do that on Heroic, they always seem to be moving, which lead to many intense fights.
My first run through Reach was on Heroic, and it played exactly like the video I presented. The AI is nothing to gloat about. Even on Legendary, where the game get's it's difficulty off numbers (Health vs Damage) and not smart AI, Plasma Pistol + DMR headshot = dead Elite. AFter that, the grunts spend the rest of the fight running away...
the only problem with the ai is that they tend to stick to a certain area, other then that its some of the best ai in games today, they flank, they'll retreat, become more aggressive, they also won't all attack the same target if there is multiple targets, they split and fend off flankers.
[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="walkingdream"] I'm sorry I'm willing to admit KZ2 does indeed look better, but you have not played reach if you think the elites AI is no good. At least anything higher than Heroic CuteCakes
To be fair though, the Helghast have no regenerating shields or health.
Yeah, they just like to stand out in the open looking around being bullet sponges while looking like they were made out of grey, blurry clay.
And don't get me started on the canned AI and animations. Every area of KZ2 plays out like the last time you played it, whether it be on the left hand side of the corridor or the right hand side of the grey (sometimes red or brown!) corridor. Unlike Halo Reach which is mostly a different experience every time you play it, especially on higher difficulty levels.
Killzone :roll: Lol though you were describing Reach at first! This is pretty much entirely wrong though i'd agree that Reach plays out more differently each time than Killzone. Elites have way more health than any enemy on Killzone and if you want to see sponging look no further than your team mates on Reach. And seriously most of the game isn't in corridoors, it's outdoors, corridoors tend to be used to link the section of the game together.
Reach is no graphics king, but it is a very impressive game from a technical standpoint, anybody who says otherwise is being silly, it must be highly addictive as well, i play reach at home, i go to work and everyone is yabbering about Reach online, i fell like a bit of an outsider cos i don't play it online,but i have played it offline evryday since it came out, the game is amazing fun and truly addictive, you don't need pretty graphics for that,just look at games like tetris.
[QUOTE="nervmeister"]To be fair though, the Helghast have no regenerating shields or health. nervmeister
Yeah, they just like to stand out in the open looking around being bullet sponges while looking like they were made out of grey, blurry clay.< You clearly haven't played the game if that's your so-called account of it. Well during my LABORIOUS Killzone 2 play-through I saw enemies: - Just come out of over and stand still> - Stand right next to me shooting the NPC's but totally oblivious to my presence. - Jump out of cover, stand around for 2 seconds then jump for cover where they were before, for no apparent reason. - Not bother trying to flank me. Just sitting in cover doing nothing. Really fun game :roll:
[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="walkingdream"] I'm sorry I'm willing to admit KZ2 does indeed look better, but you have not played reach if you think the elites AI is no good. At least anything higher than Heroic CuteCakes
To be fair though, the Helghast have no regenerating shields or health.
Yeah, they just like to stand out in the open looking around being bullet sponges while looking like they were made out of grey, blurry clay.
And don't get me started on the canned AI and animations. Every area of KZ2 plays out like the last time you played it, whether it be on the left hand side of the corridor or the right hand side of the grey (sometimes red or brown!) corridor. Unlike Halo Reach which is mostly a different experience every time you play it, especially on higher difficulty levels.
Killzone :roll:
Really? My two runs through Halo Reach was basically the same, dispite being MASSIVLY easier the second time around. The only exception I can think of was
[spoiler] mission 10, where you had to fight the huge waves of grunts in the plasma turrets (right before Emile dies). The ONLY difference I saw was a Sniper Rifle I missed my frist run through (which just made that sequence completely easy...) [/spoiler]
[QUOTE="nervmeister"]To be fair though, the Helghast have no regenerating shields or health. hoosier7
Yeah, they just like to stand out in the open looking around being bullet sponges while looking like they were made out of grey, blurry clay.
And don't get me started on the canned AI and animations. Every area of KZ2 plays out like the last time you played it, whether it be on the left hand side of the corridor or the right hand side of the grey (sometimes red or brown!) corridor. Unlike Halo Reach which is mostly a different experience every time you play it, especially on higher difficulty levels.
Killzone :roll: Lol though you were describing Reach at first! This is pretty much entirely wrong though i'd agree that Reach plays out more differently each time than Killzone. Elites have way more health than any enemy on Killzone and if you want to see sponging look no further than your team mates on Reach. And seriously most of the game isn't in corridoors, it's outdoors, corridoors tend to be used to link the section of the game together. you can make corridors outside... when people say corrider they mean really tight areas to fight in, if enemies could flank in kz2 there really aren't many areas for them to take advantage of this.
Love how they just stand there in the open, waiting to get shot...and then when they are shot, just stand there and take it. The smartest tactic Elites have is to strafe jump side to side every so often...
xYamatox
Normal? Oh. Never seen them do that on Heroic, they always seem to be moving, which lead to many intense fights.
My first run through Reach was on Heroic, and it played exactly like the video I presented. The AI is nothing to gloat about. Even on Legendary, where the game get's it's difficulty off numbers (Health vs Damage) and not smart AI, Plasma Pistol + DMR headshot = dead Elite. AFter that, the grunts spend the rest of the fight running away...
Yeah, they just like to stand out in the open looking around being bullet sponges while looking like they were made out of grey, blurry clay.< CuteCakes
You clearly haven't played the game if that's your so-called account of it. Well during my LABORIOUS Killzone 2 play-through I saw enemies: - Just come out of over and stand still> - Stand right next to me shooting the NPC's but totally oblivious to my presence. - Jump out of cover, stand around for 2 seconds then jump for cover where they were before, for no apparent reason. - Not bother trying to flank me. Just sitting in cover doing nothing. Really fun game :roll: Well your imaginary copy of KZ2 must be glitchy then. Try buying a real one.....and a PS3 to play it with.
Yeah, they just like to stand out in the open looking around being bullet sponges while looking like they were made out of grey, blurry clay.< CuteCakes
You clearly haven't played the game if that's your so-called account of it. Well during my LABORIOUS Killzone 2 play-through I saw enemies: - Just come out of over and stand still> - Stand right next to me shooting the NPC's but totally oblivious to my presence. - Jump out of cover, stand around for 2 seconds then jump for cover where they were before, for no apparent reason. - Not bother trying to flank me. Just sitting in cover doing nothing. Really fun game :roll: So have yet to prove you actually own a PS3. No one's going to believe you.
Yeah, they just like to stand out in the open looking around being bullet sponges while looking like they were made out of grey, blurry clay.< CuteCakes
You clearly haven't played the game if that's your so-called account of it. Well during my LABORIOUS Killzone 2 play-through I saw enemies: - Just come out of over and stand still> - Stand right next to me shooting the NPC's but totally oblivious to my presence. - Jump out of cover, stand around for 2 seconds then jump for cover where they were before, for no apparent reason. - Not bother trying to flank me. Just sitting in cover doing nothing. Really fun game :roll:
^^ Oh, no worries guys, he's just confused with Halo. Nothing to see here.
Yeah, they just like to stand out in the open looking around being bullet sponges while looking like they were made out of grey, blurry clay.< CuteCakes
You clearly haven't played the game if that's your so-called account of it. Well during my LABORIOUS Killzone 2 play-through I saw enemies: - Just come out of over and stand still> - Stand right next to me shooting the NPC's but totally oblivious to my presence. - Jump out of cover, stand around for 2 seconds then jump for cover where they were before, for no apparent reason. - Not bother trying to flank me. Just sitting in cover doing nothing. Really fun game :roll: All games have bad points: - The AI simply can't drive, see above for a vid - I've had Elites simply stand and take shots (vid above) - Self fragging Elites (i've seen this quite a bit) - Several times where enemies have fallen off things (often out of the map) Stop making out Kz2 is any worse than Reach it isn't they both have good AI if played in certain ways.
[QUOTE="nervmeister"]To be fair though, the Helghast have no regenerating shields or health. xYamatox
Yeah, they just like to stand out in the open looking around being bullet sponges while looking like they were made out of grey, blurry clay.
And don't get me started on the canned AI and animations. Every area of KZ2 plays out like the last time you played it, whether it be on the left hand side of the corridor or the right hand side of the grey (sometimes red or brown!) corridor. Unlike Halo Reach which is mostly a different experience every time you play it, especially on higher difficulty levels.
Killzone :roll:
Really? My two runs through Halo Reach was basically the same, dispite being MASSIVLY easier the second time around. The only exception I can think of was
halo has the same enemies in the same areas, but they let you tackle it in multitude of ways, also playing on co-op it will scale, and the AI isn't quite as predictable, doing the same thing twice the AI can act two completley different ways making a second try compltely different from the first.
Yeah, they just like to stand out in the open looking around being bullet sponges while looking like they were made out of grey, blurry clay.< CuteCakes
You clearly haven't played the game if that's your so-called account of it. Well during my LABORIOUS Killzone 2 play-through I saw enemies: - Just come out of over and stand still> - Stand right next to me shooting the NPC's but totally oblivious to my presence. - Jump out of cover, stand around for 2 seconds then jump for cover where they were before, for no apparent reason. - Not bother trying to flank me. Just sitting in cover doing nothing. Really fun game :roll:killzone 2 is a fun game, and although i have only clocked 8 hours playing it on my mates TV i don't remeber the AI being that bad,killzone 2 is an awesome game really, i already said i would go halfs on killzone 3 with him.
[QUOTE="hoosier7"][QUOTE="TroyM1"] I own them both and im telling you the Ai in KZ2 is idiotic you cant tell me that the enemies in KZ2 dont run in circles looking for a place to hide and then poke there heads out of two diff spots and stay there til dead and I dont remember my squad mates doing much of anything to help me out during my campaign in KZ2. To me thats stupid Ai compared to the way Halo Reach's Ai on Heroic and legenday will bum rush you, go for cover, dive, and plasma grenade you to death, also the enemy ai works together to kill you from the Grunts, Elites, and even the Brutes work together. And for you being a liar i just said that because your claiming to never have been fragged in the game I find that hard to believe even on Normal difficulty.
monkeysmoke
Hey if that's your opinion then fine but that's my experience, that's yours. Sure KZ2's Ai isn't perfect but Reach's is far from what you claim, i've never really been rushed by anything except grunts who are easy to kill anyway, Elites tend to just sit there, bobbing in and out of cover taking pop shots. And with the grenade thing: i did play alot of CoD 2 and 4 where the main change to the difficulty levels was the sheer mass of grenades thrown at you in veteran, sorta got used to sticking out of their way. Man you need to stop your stupid arguement. Except you're blind or have'nt played reach every body knows that the AI in reach are top notch & even bests killzone 2 AI. Honestly the helghast AI are so stupid that they do even take covers on explosive barrels & the most annoying of all is that helghasts screams like little girls when set on fire. Oh jeez, you are complaining about helghast being set on fire? Can you even do that in Reach?
[QUOTE="CuteCakes"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]You clearly haven't played the game if that's your so-called account of it. mystervj
Well during my LABORIOUS Killzone 2 play-through I saw enemies: - Just come out of over and stand still> - Stand right next to me shooting the NPC's but totally oblivious to my presence. - Jump out of cover, stand around for 2 seconds then jump for cover where they were before, for no apparent reason. - Not bother trying to flank me. Just sitting in cover doing nothing. Really fun game :roll: So have yet to prove you actually own a PS3. No one's going to believe you. I don't to prove anything to you or any other Cow. Yes I have a PS3 and I have played all these SO CALLED "graphics kings" and "best exclusives' and to be honest, I've played better games on other systems. Graphics aren't all that either, ESPECIALLY Killzone 2. Incredibly unappealing game, visually, and without all the motion blur, low contrast and particle effects it would look PRETTY DAMNED UGLY. Only one I haven't tried is Valkyria Chronicles; saving the best for last.
[QUOTE="hoosier7"][QUOTE="TroyM1"] I own them both and im telling you the Ai in KZ2 is idiotic you cant tell me that the enemies in KZ2 dont run in circles looking for a place to hide and then poke there heads out of two diff spots and stay there til dead and I dont remember my squad mates doing much of anything to help me out during my campaign in KZ2. To me thats stupid Ai compared to the way Halo Reach's Ai on Heroic and legenday will bum rush you, go for cover, dive, and plasma grenade you to death, also the enemy ai works together to kill you from the Grunts, Elites, and even the Brutes work together. And for you being a liar i just said that because your claiming to never have been fragged in the game I find that hard to believe even on Normal difficulty.
monkeysmoke
Hey if that's your opinion then fine but that's my experience, that's yours. Sure KZ2's Ai isn't perfect but Reach's is far from what you claim, i've never really been rushed by anything except grunts who are easy to kill anyway, Elites tend to just sit there, bobbing in and out of cover taking pop shots. And with the grenade thing: i did play alot of CoD 2 and 4 where the main change to the difficulty levels was the sheer mass of grenades thrown at you in veteran, sorta got used to sticking out of their way. Man you need to stop your stupid arguement. Except you're blind or have'nt played reach every body knows that the AI in reach are top notch & even bests killzone 2 AI. Honestly the helghast AI are so stupid that they do even take covers on explosive barrels & the most annoying of all is that helghasts screams like little girls when set on fire. If you would read some other posts you'd notice that i've already stated that it's probably down to how i play the game, at a distance with high vantage points that are difficult to enter making rushing too hard for the AI, they go defensive and often just sit there taking bullets.
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