HALO REACH is the current FPS graphic king on console. Not KILLZONE 2 anymore.

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#351 soulitane
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[QUOTE="monkeysmoke"][QUOTE="mystervj"][QUOTE="monkeysmoke"] 1152x720 = 720p = HD. anything else??

1280x720 is HD, anything less is sub-HD It doesn't matter whether you lose vertical or horizontal resolution, it's still sub-HD.

NOPE!! 540p = sub HD 640P = sub HD 720P = HD 1080P = True HD or Full HD so 1152x720 = 720p = HD there no other name for it except HD.

So to you if it was 500x720 does that make it HD?
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="monkeysmoke"][QUOTE="mystervj"] 1280x720 is HD, anything less is sub-HD It doesn't matter whether you lose vertical or horizontal resolution, it's still sub-HD.

NOPE!! 540p = sub HD 640P = sub HD 720P = HD 1080P = True HD or Full HD so 1152x720 = 720p = HD there no other name for it except HD.

HD resolution refers to 1 mega pixel or higher, 1280x720 is not actually HD, it is .92 megapixels, close enough for it to be generally considered HD since it is within 1/10th of a megapixel. the res Reach runs at is .83 megapixels and is not HD

DigitalFoundry begs to differ sorry.
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#353 monkeysmoke
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[QUOTE="monkeysmoke"][QUOTE="soulitane"]I don't see why you're bragging about the AA in Reach when the game is really jagged.gaming25
jagged? Oh reach is jagged? Is it realy jagged? NO!!! Digital Foundary never said anything about halo reach being jaggie or any AA issue as they do point out in other games tech analysis http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-halo-reach-tech-analysis-article Am playing halo reach right now & it is smoother compared to the jaggie fested killzone 2.



You are trying to bash one of the most graphically appeasing games of all time. For what, for Halo Reach? According to everyone in the review media, they all agree and have rated Killzone 2 higher than Halo Reach in terms of graphics. Doesnt matter if you think that KZ2 is a "corridor shooter", the graphics is about how a game looks, and in terms of DETAIL, character models, lighting, smoke, and weapons, Killzone 2 is a better looking game from a technical perspective.


killzone 2 did not do anything unique from a technical perspective HALO REACH is the game that did amaizing things from a technical perspective. I would like to see how good killzone 2 will look if it attempted to push all what halo reach did. Technicaly reach did more impresive things to maintain it gorgeous vissuals as a game with large scale enviroment filled with swarms of active smart AI & vehicles.

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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="monkeysmoke"] NOPE!! 540p = sub HD 640P = sub HD 720P = HD 1080P = True HD or Full HD so 1152x720 = 720p = HD there no other name for it except HD.

HD resolution refers to 1 mega pixel or higher, 1280x720 is not actually HD, it is .92 megapixels, close enough for it to be generally considered HD since it is within 1/10th of a megapixel. the res Reach runs at is .83 megapixels and is not HD

DigitalFoundry begs to differ sorry.

Thats nice and i dont really care if Digital foundry refers to reach as 720p. 1152x720 is not HD.
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#355 monkeysmoke
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="monkeysmoke"][QUOTE="mystervj"] 1280x720 is HD, anything less is sub-HD It doesn't matter whether you lose vertical or horizontal resolution, it's still sub-HD.

NOPE!! 540p = sub HD 640P = sub HD 720P = HD 1080P = True HD or Full HD so 1152x720 = 720p = HD there no other name for it except HD.

HD resolution refers to 1 mega pixel or higher, 1280x720 is not actually HD, it is .92 megapixels, close enough for it to be generally considered HD since it is within 1/10th of a megapixel. the res Reach runs at is .83 megapixels and is not HD

if you're trying to call 720p a sub HD then killzone 2 is equaly sub HD too.LOL
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#356 soulitane
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[QUOTE="monkeysmoke"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="monkeysmoke"] NOPE!! 540p = sub HD 640P = sub HD 720P = HD 1080P = True HD or Full HD so 1152x720 = 720p = HD there no other name for it except HD.

HD resolution refers to 1 mega pixel or higher, 1280x720 is not actually HD, it is .92 megapixels, close enough for it to be generally considered HD since it is within 1/10th of a megapixel. the res Reach runs at is .83 megapixels and is not HD

if you're trying to call 720p a sub HD then killzone 2 is equaly sub HD too.LOL

Not equally, slightly more HD than Reach.
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="monkeysmoke"] NOPE!! 540p = sub HD 640P = sub HD 720P = HD 1080P = True HD or Full HD so 1152x720 = 720p = HD there no other name for it except HD.monkeysmoke
HD resolution refers to 1 mega pixel or higher, 1280x720 is not actually HD, it is .92 megapixels, close enough for it to be generally considered HD since it is within 1/10th of a megapixel. the res Reach runs at is .83 megapixels and is not HD

if you're trying to call 720p a sub HD then killzone 2 is equaly sub HD too.LOL

Yes it is, whats your point? however it is still higher res than reach.

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#358 bizzy420
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[QUOTE="monkeysmoke"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

Um, monkeysmoke, Halo Reach is 1152x720.

1152x720 = 720p = HD. anything else??

ummm ok, if you say so. lol
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#359 bizzy420
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="monkeysmoke"] NOPE!! 540p = sub HD 640P = sub HD 720P = HD 1080P = True HD or Full HD so 1152x720 = 720p = HD there no other name for it except HD.monkeysmoke
HD resolution refers to 1 mega pixel or higher, 1280x720 is not actually HD, it is .92 megapixels, close enough for it to be generally considered HD since it is within 1/10th of a megapixel. the res Reach runs at is .83 megapixels and is not HD

if you're trying to call 720p a sub HD then killzone 2 is equaly sub HD too.LOL

ummmm kz2 stil has a bit more resolution than reach. lol
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#360 mgs_freak91
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[QUOTE="monkeysmoke"][QUOTE="mystervj"][QUOTE="monkeysmoke"] 1152x720 = 720p = HD. anything else??

1280x720 is HD, anything less is sub-HD It doesn't matter whether you lose vertical or horizontal resolution, it's still sub-HD.

NOPE!! 540p = sub HD 640P = sub HD 720P = HD 1080P = True HD or Full HD so 1152x720 = 720p = HD there no other name for it except HD.

1152x720 != HD. As stated, 1280x720 = HD.
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#361 mgs_freak91
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[QUOTE="monkeysmoke"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="monkeysmoke"] NOPE!! 540p = sub HD 640P = sub HD 720P = HD 1080P = True HD or Full HD so 1152x720 = 720p = HD there no other name for it except HD.

HD resolution refers to 1 mega pixel or higher, 1280x720 is not actually HD, it is .92 megapixels, close enough for it to be generally considered HD since it is within 1/10th of a megapixel. the res Reach runs at is .83 megapixels and is not HD

if you're trying to call 720p a sub HD then killzone 2 is equaly sub HD too.LOL

You fail. Killzone 2 isn't in "HD", it IS in "Sub HD". Doesn't change that it has a higher resolution than Reach now, does it?
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#362 mystervj
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Okay, is this a fake boy trying to make lemmings look embarrassed?
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#363 gaming25
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="monkeysmoke"] jagged? Oh reach is jagged? Is it realy jagged? NO!!! Digital Foundary never said anything about halo reach being jaggie or any AA issue as they do point out in other games tech analysis http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-halo-reach-tech-analysis-article Am playing halo reach right now & it is smoother compared to the jaggie fested killzone 2.monkeysmoke



You are trying to bash one of the most graphically appeasing games of all time. For what, for Halo Reach? According to everyone in the review media, they all agree and have rated Killzone 2 higher than Halo Reach in terms of graphics. Doesnt matter if you think that KZ2 is a "corridor shooter", the graphics is about how a game looks, and in terms of DETAIL, character models, lighting, smoke, and weapons, Killzone 2 is a better looking game from a technical perspective.


killzone 2 did not do anything unique from a technical perspective HALO REACH is the game that did amaizing things from a technical perspective. I would like to see how good killzone 2 will look if it attempted to push all what halo reach did. Technicaly reach did more impresive things to maintain it gorgeous vissuals as a game with large scale enviroment filled with swarms of active smart AI & vehicles.

We are talking about graphics. Not about how much power was being pushed. Thats a different discussion.

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#364 mystervj
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Okay HD isn't defined as 1 megapixels, that's for camera. 720x1280 is traditionally coined as HD, 1080x1900 is full HD. Less than 720x1280 is sub-HD.
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#365 gamebreakerz__
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All I had to do was read the praise for ODST at the start to know it was biased. Reach is not graphics king.
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#366 delta3074
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All I had to do was read the praise for ODST at the start to know it was biased. Reach is not graphics king.gamebreakerz__
"ODST exhibited plenty of minor tweaks and improvements to the base tech, there was little doubt that the vast majority of the Bungie engine had remained untouched. " you call that praise? seriously? and digital foundry are biased are they? wow, you really are way off the mark,lol
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#367 Ultizer
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is TC trolling?

i really cant see anyone thinking Reach is graphics king

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] HD resolution refers to 1 mega pixel or higher, 1280x720 is not actually HD, it is .92 megapixels, close enough for it to be generally considered HD since it is within 1/10th of a megapixel. the res Reach runs at is .83 megapixels and is not HD

DigitalFoundry begs to differ sorry.

Thats nice and i dont really care if Digital foundry refers to reach as 720p. 1152x720 is not HD.

their opinions are facts since they understand the matter,n you? thats what i thought.. DG opinion > any opinion with no knowledges.
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if it's not the best looking game on any system then it's not any kind of king. there's only one king. would you settle for graphics prince?

CaseyWegner
This broke the suspense of all the, "no, kz2 is better" comments and made me burst out laughing
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#371 johny300
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Reach looks very good and i still didn't get my copy:(, still it cant beat killzone 2 graphics.
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#372 Malta_1980
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its a great game... definately one of the best exclusives avaible on 360.. however its no console graphics king...

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#373 racing1750
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It's more technically impressive i agree, but it's not graphics king.
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#374 popopatrol
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No lol

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I will never understand what all the fuss is over KZ2 graphics. They are not impressive at all. Goodness, it must be a preference thing because I just don't see it. As I've said before, KZ2 is a blurry, smudgy mess. Sorry but that vaseline look ain't doin' it for me. Not to mention it has some poor textures. But not only that I've noticed that in some areas it sports some low-poly structures in the environment. Graphically it really is weird-looking and is inconsistent. Okay for example...I can just look at UC2 and I can say without a shadow of a doubt that UC2 looks GOOD. When you look at KZ2 something looks off but again it must be a preference thing... The ONLY thing that I can say impresses me about KZ2 are the gun models. Beyond that however things start to get iffy.

So yeah to me Halo: Reach looks sharper and better in the graphics department. Not to mention all the stuff going on like number of enemies, friendlies, vehicles, A.I, etc.. and this game blows Killzone 2 out of the water. So to conclude yes to me Reach looks better than KZ2 and as a complete package KZ2 shouldn't even be mentioned compared to Halo: Reach. That is actually an insult to Bungie and all of the hard work they've thrown into the Halo series. Now graphics king? Not really ready to give it that title. Doesn't matter though because it still looks great.

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#376 worknow222
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It's more technically impressive i agree, but it's not graphics king.racing1750
No one said it was were Just saying it looks better than Killzone 2 the graphics FPS King on Consoles
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#377 racing1750
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[QUOTE="racing1750"]It's more technically impressive i agree, but it's not graphics king.worknow222
No one said it was were Just saying it looks better than Killzone 2 the graphics FPS King on Consoles

Looks better is subjective.
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#378 worknow222
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[QUOTE="worknow222"][QUOTE="racing1750"]It's more technically impressive i agree, but it's not graphics king.racing1750
No one said it was were Just saying it looks better than Killzone 2 the graphics FPS King on Consoles

Looks better is subjective.

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#379 skrat_01
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How about we palm of the 'king' title to every damn achievement.
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#380 racing1750
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[QUOTE="worknow222"][QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="worknow222"] No one said it was were Just saying it looks better than Killzone 2 the graphics FPS King on Consoles

Looks better is subjective.

Opinions are Opinions

err...forget about it.
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#381 K-76
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I will have to disagree

Killzone 2 was never the best FPS to start with in the first place:P

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#382 Heil68
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Halo Reach is ok in graphics department.
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#383 hd5870corei7
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Oh please...

Reach is on par with MW2. maybe Black Ops.

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#384 zarshack
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hey guys i hear 1152 x 720p is the new benchmark for HD. isn't that cool.. ROFLMAO:lol:

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

if it's not the best looking game on any system then it's not any kind of king. there's only one king. would you settle for graphics prince?

SaltyMeatballs

No, there can be king for different platforms. I think what you meant to say was, PC is the no holds barred graphics king.

there's certainly no such thing as console graphics king. not here.

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there's certainly no such thing as console graphics king. not here.

CaseyWegner

Yet many console fans continue to persist bringing it up. *motions to ban the usage*

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

there's certainly no such thing as console graphics king. not here.

Stevo_the_gamer

Yet many console fans continue to persist bringing it up. *motions to ban the usage*

With the way this board works, I doubt it can be banned. There's no official "console graphics king", but that won't stop people from talking about it, nor should it! Remember anarchy, right? The only thing official about this board is that we use Gamespot scores to determine flops and count high-scoring exclusives for the meta game. Oh, and PC counts!

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reach looks amzing haters just keep crying









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#389 clone01
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[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="worknow222"] No one said it was were Just saying it looks better than Killzone 2 the graphics FPS King on Consolesworknow222
Looks better is subjective.

Opinions are Opinions

yes, that's essentially what he just said.
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With the way this board works, I doubt it can be banned. There's no official "console graphics king", but that won't stop people from talking about it, nor should it! Remember anarchy, right? The only thing official about this board is that we use Gamespot scores to determine flops and count high-scoring exclusives for the meta game. Oh, and PC counts!

Episode_Eve

It's a silly term as is, much like how console exclusive was silly hence why it was consistently put down as frivolous and unwarranted. Sure, smeone could talk about, but the end still remains the same. It's just silly.

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#391 Bogie_19th
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Halo Reach > KZ2 graphically and gameplay
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#392 tommyas
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Why Killzone 2? Killzone 3 would be a better rival as the release dates are closer to each other...
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#394 monkeysmoke
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I will never understand what all the fuss is over KZ2 graphics. They are not impressive at all. Goodness, it must be a preference thing because I just don't see it. As I've said before, KZ2 is a blurry, smudgy mess. Sorry but that vaseline look ain't doin' it for me. Not to mention it has some poor textures. But not only that I've noticed that in some areas it sports some low-poly structures in the environment. Graphically it really is weird-looking and is inconsistent. Okay for example...I can just look at UC2 and I can say without a shadow of a doubt that UC2 looks GOOD. When you look at KZ2 something looks off but again it must be a preference thing... The ONLY thing that I can say impresses me about KZ2 are the gun models. Beyond that however things start to get iffy.

So yeah to me Halo: Reach looks sharper and better in the graphics department. Not to mention all the stuff going on like number of enemies, friendlies, vehicles, A.I, etc.. and this game blows Killzone 2 out of the water. So to conclude yes to me Reach looks better than KZ2 and as a complete package KZ2 shouldn't even be mentioned compared to Halo: Reach. That is actually an insult to Bungie and all of the hard work they've thrown into the Halo series. Now graphics king? Not really ready to give it that title. Doesn't matter though because it still looks great.

T-razor1
This guy just sumed up the whole reason why i think killzone 2 doesn't look too good as cows hype it. I agree that uncharted 2 realy looks gorgeous but for killzone 2 na na na the game is too blury & realy aside the gun model everything else in the game doesn't look impressive. Halo reach is sharper,the artstyle is great & the texture is supperior to killzone 2.
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#395 clone01
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[QUOTE="T-razor1"]

I will never understand what all the fuss is over KZ2 graphics. They are not impressive at all. Goodness, it must be a preference thing because I just don't see it. As I've said before, KZ2 is a blurry, smudgy mess. Sorry but that vaseline look ain't doin' it for me. Not to mention it has some poor textures. But not only that I've noticed that in some areas it sports some low-poly structures in the environment. Graphically it really is weird-looking and is inconsistent. Okay for example...I can just look at UC2 and I can say without a shadow of a doubt that UC2 looks GOOD. When you look at KZ2 something looks off but again it must be a preference thing... The ONLY thing that I can say impresses me about KZ2 are the gun models. Beyond that however things start to get iffy.

So yeah to me Halo: Reach looks sharper and better in the graphics department. Not to mention all the stuff going on like number of enemies, friendlies, vehicles, A.I, etc.. and this game blows Killzone 2 out of the water. So to conclude yes to me Reach looks better than KZ2 and as a complete package KZ2 shouldn't even be mentioned compared to Halo: Reach. That is actually an insult to Bungie and all of the hard work they've thrown into the Halo series. Now graphics king? Not really ready to give it that title. Doesn't matter though because it still looks great.

monkeysmoke
This guy just sumed up the whole reason why i think killzone 2 doesn't look too good as cows hype it. I agree that uncharted 2 realy looks gorgeous but for killzone 2 na na na the game is too blury & realy aside the gun model everything else in the game doesn't look impressive. Halo reach is sharper,the artstyle is great & the texture is supperior to killzone 2.

that is an excellent opinion that you have, and we will all be sure to duly note it in the future.
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#396 dommeus
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Err..no. Killzone 2, Metro and even HL2 Ep 2 look better than Reach.

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#398 Szminsky
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Killzone 2 has better graphics than Reach, there's no need for discussion, it's painfully obvious.

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#399 Kane04
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The truth is that GG used tricks & shortcuts like limiting colours,limiting scales & AI on screen to archieve killzone 2 vissuals while bungie didnt sacrifice or use any form of trick such as limiting colours or limiting enviromental scales to archieve halo reach's visual.

Halo reach' sandbox large scale enviroment,huge amounts of smart AI on screen & finally meeting 720p hd & increased poly counts is a big K.O to killzone 2.

TRUTH is bitter.monkeysmoke

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You can't actually believe this is a fact right?

Reach uses pretty much the same animations as Halo 2, i'm dying to get some time on my hands to make some gifs
The "A.I." on Reach is little less than left and right strafe back and forward.
And if you think a graphics engine vomiting brightly colors like a rainbow is a good thing on a war game... Well then more power to you.

Side by side Reach does no look better than Killzone 2, period, truth is bitter and everyone here will prove you wrong, i see you join gs a month and a bit ago, let me tell you thats not how you act here, trying to pass opinions as facts... Actually SW is all about that, but what ever :P Have a nice day.

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#400 delta3074
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I will never understand what all the fuss is over KZ2 graphics. They are not impressive at all. Goodness, it must be a preference thing because I just don't see it. As I've said before, KZ2 is a blurry, smudgy mess. Sorry but that vaseline look ain't doin' it for me. Not to mention it has some poor textures. But not only that I've noticed that in some areas it sports some low-poly structures in the environment. Graphically it really is weird-looking and is inconsistent. Okay for example...I can just look at UC2 and I can say without a shadow of a doubt that UC2 looks GOOD. When you look at KZ2 something looks off but again it must be a preference thing... The ONLY thing that I can say impresses me about KZ2 are the gun models. Beyond that however things start to get iffy.

So yeah to me Halo: Reach looks sharper and better in the graphics department. Not to mention all the stuff going on like number of enemies, friendlies, vehicles, A.I, etc.. and this game blows Killzone 2 out of the water. So to conclude yes to me Reach looks better than KZ2 and as a complete package KZ2 shouldn't even be mentioned compared to Halo: Reach. That is actually an insult to Bungie and all of the hard work they've thrown into the Halo series. Now graphics king? Not really ready to give it that title. Doesn't matter though because it still looks great.

monkeysmoke
This guy just sumed up the whole reason why i think killzone 2 doesn't look too good as cows hype it. I agree that uncharted 2 realy looks gorgeous but for killzone 2 na na na the game is too blury & realy aside the gun model everything else in the game doesn't look impressive. Halo reach is sharper,the artstyle is great & the texture is supperior to killzone 2.

depends, i think KZ2 looks better than UC2,it's a personal preference thing, i prefer reach to killzone 2 because it has way better art style and is just plain way more fun than KZ2, i really think we should knock this graphics king rubbish on the head,it's just way too subjective,what looks good to one person looks absolute rubbish to somebody else.