Halo Reach vs KZ2 comparison

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#1 gamewhat
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I just want everyone to know that a 1 1/2 year old game just destroyed Reach, the 360's great hope. I thought Reach was supposed to have ground breaking visuals? It looks just like the other halo 3. Can we put it to rest that the 360 is maxed out. It's just sad that the PS3's 3rd best looking game beats a new game that was supposed to be the one great 360 hope to show the 360 had the power to compete with the PS3. http://gamingbolt.com/2010/02/14/halo-reach-versus-killzone-2-hd-screenshot-comparison/

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#2 punkrocker163
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Please take the fanboyism else where or at least judge the game when its out. kthxbai
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#3 Diametraphine
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I know right!!! and when reach CAME OUT, everyone wouldn't shut up about it's graphics!!!

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#4 sikanderahmed
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yes reach doesnt look anything special but graphics aside, reach will single handedly destroy majority of ps3 library including killzone 2

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#5 DropTarget
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OH NO! I fell asleep for several months and missed the release of Halo Reach.

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#6 brickdoctor
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While from what we've seen Reach doesn't look near as good as Killzone 2, I think we all know what game will sell more.

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#7 SolidTy
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Halo doesn't need graphics to sell, and in the end, that's all Xbox Management care about.

Still, graphically speaking, I would wait until REACH is finally out before making declarations. What we have seen doesn't look all that graphically impressive, but they have all year.

*Shrugs*

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#8 Doctor-McNinja
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Watch the new video on Bungie.net; the game looks beautiful.
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#9 MC3887
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Most of those pics are pre-alpha reach, and honestly KZ2 doesn't look much better in those pics.

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#10 Idream2010
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isnt Halo 3 more played than Killzone 2 to this day, sad, yeah Halo Reach will blow Killzone 2 out of the water.

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#11 gamewhat
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OH NO! I fell asleep for several months and missed the release of Halo Reach.

DropTarget

I can promise you that when halo reach comes out that it will look almost exactly the same as it does in those pics. They might add some detail, but it won't be noticable. Mark my words, it won't look any better.

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#12 BURSTIIIFIRE
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First of those are the Alpha builtscreen (m aybe even pre-alpha) and the gameplay is going to be way better than KZ2. Even now I would rather play Halo 3 than KZ2.

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#13 Arbiterisl33t69
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I just want everyone to know that a 1 1/2 year old game just destroyed Reach, the 360's great hope. I thought Reach was supposed to have ground breaking visuals? It looks just like the other halo 3. Can we put it to rest that the 360 is maxed out. It's just sad that the PS3's 3rd best looking game beats a new game that was supposed to be the one great 360 hope to show the 360 had the power to compete with the PS3. http://gamingbolt.com/2010/02/14/halo-reach-versus-killzone-2-hd-screenshot-comparison/

gamewhat
Old pics are old. Should've used the GIFs or latest video to compare, you're not even trying.
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#14 DarkGamer007
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While the visuals may not be as good as Killzone 2, Reach is far more technically impressive than Killzone 2. Reach has huge open enviroments, numerous enemies, and vechiles moving around on screen, and is one of the few console games to use ture HDR lighting.

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#15 Arbiterisl33t69
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[QUOTE="DropTarget"]

OH NO! I fell asleep for several months and missed the release of Halo Reach.

gamewhat

I can promise you that when halo reach comes out that it will look almost exactly the same as it does in those pics. They might add some detail, but it won't be noticable. Mark my words, it won't look any better.

LOL Don't you feel dumb now? You're selfpwning yourself here, buddy, I would check out the latest trailer to see for yourself that Reach looks MUCH better than those old pics the article used
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#17 Mordred19
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stop ignoring context.

Killzone 2 is extremely linear compared to Halo 3. Halo Reach follows that design philosophy: large enviornments. There is no way around that. There is no arguement.

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#18 Chaos_HL21
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First thing, Halo had never really been so much about graphics. There is this little thing called Gameplay, it is pretty important to gaming.
Second thing, the game isn't even out yet (may not even come out this year), so comparisons are pointless.

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#19 MC3887
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[QUOTE="gamewhat"]

I just want everyone to know that a 1 1/2 year old game just destroyed Reach, the 360's great hope. I thought Reach was supposed to have ground breaking visuals? It looks just like the other halo 3. Can we put it to rest that the 360 is maxed out. It's just sad that the PS3's 3rd best looking game beats a new game that was supposed to be the one great 360 hope to show the 360 had the power to compete with the PS3. http://gamingbolt.com/2010/02/14/halo-reach-versus-killzone-2-hd-screenshot-comparison/

Arbiterisl33t69

Old pics are old. Should've used the GIFs or latest video to compare, you're not even trying.

Seriously KZ2 doesn't look much better than the reach pics.

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#20 bigboss5ak
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Reach looks better in motion you'd know this if you watched the vidoc, i personally think its on par with kz2. Not to mention reach is still in pre pre alpha and still looks amazing. At the end of the day no amount of fanboyism will stop reach from selling 4plus million in a week. Kz2 looks good but its online is obselete and its game play is not at the level of halos.
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#21 Cherokee_Jack
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One of these games came out last year. The other is in alpha. What's wrong with this picture?

Also, I think he used concept art for the 3rd comparison.

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[QUOTE="gamewhat"]

I just want everyone to know that a 1 1/2 year old game just destroyed Reach, the 360's great hope. I thought Reach was supposed to have ground breaking visuals? It looks just like the other halo 3. Can we put it to rest that the 360 is maxed out. It's just sad that the PS3's 3rd best looking game beats a new game that was supposed to be the one great 360 hope to show the 360 had the power to compete with the PS3. http://gamingbolt.com/2010/02/14/halo-reach-versus-killzone-2-hd-screenshot-comparison/

Arbiterisl33t69

Old pics are old. Should've used the GIFs or latest video to compare, you're not even trying.

enlighten the group with those new gifs. I have streamed the new version on xbox live and it looks aabsolutely horrible in motion. It suffers from that low resolution horrible cartoony look.

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#23 tehsystemwarior
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That was one of the worst graphic comparisons ever. The guy was clearly a fanboy, and Reach is still in Alpha stage.
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#24 Cyberfairy
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Draw distance: Reach > Killzone 2

Textures: Reach > Killzone 2

Enemies on screen: Reach > Killzone 2

Lightning: Killzone 2 > Reach

Motion blur: Killzone 2 > Reach.

You really have to consider that Reach will sport tons of more action on screen so of course it won't look as "good".

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#25 EVOLV3
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I don't get this attempt to hype Halo's graphics all of a sudden, if anything people should be trying to focus attention away from the graphics.

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#26 BURSTIIIFIRE
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quoted from another thread:

"10 things Halo: Reach needs to look as good as Killzone 2"Blue-Sky (original poster)

  • Smaller environments
  • Foggy view distance
  • Fixed light sources
  • lower color palette
  • Less enemies on screen
  • more processing power devoted to Gun graphics
  • Less vehicles
  • smaller peripheral field of view
  • scripted AI
  • repeated environments
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#27 Kickinurass
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I thought those comparisons shots looked pretty close actually, with KZ2 gun models being the only thing standing out as being clearly better.

But my eyes are bad anyway :P

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#29 jman1553
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That whole screenshot comparison is full of fail.

They are using multiplayer images from Killzone 2.

Comparing a 100% complete game with a pre-alpha game.

Comparing a game released in early 2009 to a game releasing late 2010.

Not using the normal resolution for either of the games.

And did they use concept art in one of the pictures? I can't tell.

This is like the Dante's Inferno vs God of War 3 I saw somewhere.

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#30 Ross_the_Boss6
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Is it me, or is that last Halo: Reach picture artwork?

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#31 TintedEyes
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I like how this thread is about graphics, but when they lose that they run to more players online. Who the hell cares? As long as I am in a full game having fun I ca care less about the amount of players online.
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#32 MC3887
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Draw distance: Reach > Killzone 2

Textures: Reach > Killzone 2

Enemies on screen: Reach > Killzone 2

Lightning: Killzone 2 > Reach

Motion blur: Killzone 2 > Reach.

You really have to consider that Reach will sport tons of more action on screen so of course it won't look as "good".

Cyberfairy

Halo 3's lighting is technically more impressive than KZ2's.

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#33 killzowned24
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Eh, watch the video on Live, it really does not look close to KZ2.
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#34 tehsystemwarior
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[QUOTE="Arbiterisl33t69"][QUOTE="gamewhat"]

I just want everyone to know that a 1 1/2 year old game just destroyed Reach, the 360's great hope. I thought Reach was supposed to have ground breaking visuals? It looks just like the other halo 3. Can we put it to rest that the 360 is maxed out. It's just sad that the PS3's 3rd best looking game beats a new game that was supposed to be the one great 360 hope to show the 360 had the power to compete with the PS3. http://gamingbolt.com/2010/02/14/halo-reach-versus-killzone-2-hd-screenshot-comparison/

gamewhat

Old pics are old. Should've used the GIFs or latest video to compare, you're not even trying.

enlighten the group with those new gifs. I have streamed the new version on xbox live and it looks aabsolutely horrible in motion. It suffers from that low resolution horrible cartoony look.

 . Look at the detail on everything. The only thing that doesnt looks superb is the tile in the ground, and the game is still in Alpha stage.
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#35 Mordred19
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yep, the person who wrote that "comparison" used concept art in the 3rd section and called it a screenshot. :?

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If you also look at the last few second of the Vidoc, it gives a shot of one of Reach's campaign levels which looks about five times bigger than anything in Killzone.
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#37 bobbetybob
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Watch the new video on Bungie.net; the game looks beautiful.Doctor-McNinja
Yeah was about to say this. I just watched it because of this thread and it looks really nice. Who cares if it isn't KZ2 standard, KZ2 didn't have huge non scripted battles and a semi-open world structure.
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#38 G-O-M-J
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i will compare these games myself when reach is out because killzone 2 doesnt look as good as screenshots and from what ive seen pictures dont do reach any justice.
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#39 Cherokee_Jack
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yep, the person who wrote that "comparison" used concept art in the 3rd section and called it a screenshot. :?

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#40 MC3887
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I thought those comparisons shots looked pretty close actually, with KZ2 gun models being the only thing standing out as being clearly better.

But my eyes are bad anyway :P

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Agreed. I hate the textures on the character models in KZ2, and the mud. Everything else looks nice though.

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#41 gamewhat
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Draw distance: Reach > Killzone 2

Textures: Reach > Killzone 2

Enemies on screen: Reach > Killzone 2

Lightning: Killzone 2 > Reach

Motion blur: Killzone 2 > Reach.

You really have to consider that Reach will sport tons of more action on screen so of course it won't look as "good".

Cyberfairy

Oh boy....... you just failed on every level imagined. The only thing that Reach has over KZ2 is enemies on screen and they will be really horrible texture wise except for maybe the closes 1 or 2. I bet you have no idea what the KZ2 engine can do......do ya? I bet you don't have any idea what the new bungie engine can do (don't know the name of the engine) So please stop talking like you know what you're talking about and actually post some proof, because I can promise you that you have no idea what either engine can do.

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#42 mitu123
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Comparing a game in alpha v.s. a already released game, that makes sense, that's like those Forza 3 v.s. GT5 physics demo comparisons.:lol:

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#43 2mrw
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it's fact said in a very fanboyish way .

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#44 II_Seraphim_II
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Please take the fanboyism else where or at least judge the game when its out. kthxbaipunkrocker163
nothing more needs to be added :)
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#45 gamewhat
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[QUOTE="Doctor-McNinja"]Watch the new video on Bungie.net; the game looks beautiful.bobbetybob
Yeah was about to say this. I just watched it because of this thread and it looks really nice. Who cares if it isn't KZ2 standard, KZ2 didn't have huge non scripted battles and a semi-open world structure.

What will happen when KZ3 comes out and is open world and looks better than KZ2?

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I just want everyone to know that a 1 1/2 year old game just destroyed Reach, the 360's great hope. I thought Reach was supposed to have ground breaking visuals? It looks just like the other halo 3. Can we put it to rest that the 360 is maxed out. It's just sad that the PS3's 3rd best looking game beats a new game that was supposed to be the one great 360 hope to show the 360 had the power to compete with the PS3. http://gamingbolt.com/2010/02/14/halo-reach-versus-killzone-2-hd-screenshot-comparison/

gamewhat

Try to put 40 enemies and 20 vehicles in KZ2´s engine and it will probably run at 1 frame p second. The funny thing is that even with all of that going on at the same time, reach still looks almost as good as KZ2 ;)

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[QUOTE="Cyberfairy"]

Draw distance: Reach > Killzone 2

Textures: Reach > Killzone 2

Enemies on screen: Reach > Killzone 2

Lightning: Killzone 2 > Reach

Motion blur: Killzone 2 > Reach.

You really have to consider that Reach will sport tons of more action on screen so of course it won't look as "good".

gamewhat

Oh boy....... you just failed on every level imagined. The only thing that Reach has over KZ2 is enemies on screen and they will be really horrible texture wise except for maybe the closes 1 or 2. I bet you have no idea what the KZ2 engine can do......do ya? I bet you don't have any idea what the new bungie engine can do (don't know the name of the engine) So please stop talking like you know what you're talking about and actually post some proof, because I can promise you that you have no idea what either engine can do.

And you on the other hand have worked for both Guerilla games and Bungie and therefore know the full technical limitations of both games, right?
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#48 mitu123
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Is it me, or is that last Halo: Reach picture artwork?

Ross_the_Boss6

It is artwork! It doesn't even look like the other screens, this is a joke.

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#50 Mordred19
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[QUOTE="Cyberfairy"]

Draw distance: Reach > Killzone 2

Textures: Reach > Killzone 2

Enemies on screen: Reach > Killzone 2

Lightning: Killzone 2 > Reach

Motion blur: Killzone 2 > Reach.

You really have to consider that Reach will sport tons of more action on screen so of course it won't look as "good".

gamewhat

Oh boy....... you just failed on every level imagined. The only thing that Reach has over KZ2 is enemies on screen and they will be really horrible texture wise except for maybe the closes 1 or 2. I bet you have no idea what the KZ2 engine can do......do ya? I bet you don't have any idea what the new bungie engine can do (don't know the name of the engine) So please stop talking like you know what you're talking about and actually post some proof, because I can promise you that you have no idea what either engine can do.

Halo 3 already had larger enviorments than Killzone 2. It is a fact that Reach is going in the same direction with larger enviorments. You admit that Reach will have more enemies on screen. So why are even trying to directly compare them and put one over the other?