Halo Reach vs KZ2 comparison

[QUOTE="gamewhat"]

[QUOTE="Cyberfairy"]

Draw distance: Reach > Killzone 2

Textures: Reach > Killzone 2

Enemies on screen: Reach > Killzone 2

Lightning: Killzone 2 > Reach

Motion blur: Killzone 2 > Reach.

You really have to consider that Reach will sport tons of more action on screen so of course it won't look as "good".

bobbetybob

i do remeber lemming bashing MAG coz of its 128v128 and bashing MAG gfx for that , i can't remeber how many times they said Quantity=/= Quality, now the same excuse is used to prove superiority over KZ2 and to justify the avarge gfx.

I don't get this attempt to hype Halo's graphics all of a sudden, if anything people should be trying to focus attention away from the graphics.

EVOLV3

Well, gameplay wise it will most likelly deliver. Ppl just were surprised with the graphics because no one was expecting it to look that good.

[QUOTE="gamewhat"]

[QUOTE="Cyberfairy"]

Draw distance: Reach > Killzone 2

Textures: Reach > Killzone 2

Enemies on screen: Reach > Killzone 2

Lightning: Killzone 2 > Reach

Motion blur: Killzone 2 > Reach.

You really have to consider that Reach will sport tons of more action on screen so of course it won't look as "good".

Mordred19

Halo 3 already had larger enviorments than Killzone 2. It is a fact that Reach is going in the same direction with larger enviorments. You admit that Reach will have more enemies on screen. So why are even trying to directly compare them and put one over the other?

Try to put 40 enemies and 20 vehicles in KZ2´s engine and it will probably run at 1 frame p second. The funny thing is that even with all of that going on at the same time, reach still looks almost as good as KZ2 ;)

PAL360

i do remeber lemming bashing MAG coz of its 128v128 and bashing MAG gfx for that , i can't remeber how many times they said Quantity=/= Quality, now the same excuse is used to prove superiority over KZ2 and to justify the avarge gfx.

2mrw

Thankfully Reach will have both. Huge environments/battles and beautifull graphics :P

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Try to put 40 enemies and 20 vehicles in KZ2´s engine and it will probably run at 1 frame p second. The funny thing is that even with all of that going on at the same time, reach still looks almost as good as KZ2 ;)

ZimpanX

I forgot the split screen! It makes it even more impressive :o

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]

I don't get this attempt to hype Halo's graphics all of a sudden, if anything people should be trying to focus attention away from the graphics.

Well, gameplay wise it will most likelly deliver. Ppl just were surprised with the graphics because no one was expecting it to look that good.

If you really think killzone 2 looks better, you didn't have to be so fanboyish about it.

And this comparison couldn't really get much worse. None of the pics are of even remotely the same thing. Hell, one of those reach screens isn't even a screen, it's a concept art.The only thing I see so far is that the enemy models in Reach are probably a bit more detailed than the enemies in Killzone 2. I'll wait to see some of the bigger fights in Reach to make any real judgements.

[QUOTE="2mrw"]

i do remeber lemming bashing MAG coz of its 128v128 and bashing MAG gfx for that , i can't remeber how many times they said Quantity=/= Quality, now the same excuse is used to prove superiority over KZ2 and to justify the avarge gfx.

PAL360

Thankfully Reach will have both. Huge environments/battles and beautifull graphics :P

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]

[QUOTE="gamewhat"]Oh boy....... you just failed on every level imagined. The only thing that Reach has over KZ2 is enemies on screen and they will be really horrible texture wise except for maybe the closes 1 or 2. I bet you have no idea what the KZ2 engine can do......do ya? I bet you don't have any idea what the new bungie engine can do (don't know the name of the engine) So please stop talking like you know what you're talking about and actually post some proof, because I can promise you that you have no idea what either engine can do.

Halo 3 already had larger enviorments than Killzone 2. It is a fact that Reach is going in the same direction with larger enviorments. You admit that Reach will have more enemies on screen. So why are even trying to directly compare them and put one over the other?

Some REAL Killzone 2 images

moti-123

Ill piggy back on this with some gifs

http://i41.tinypic.com/2h5n37m.gif

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]

I don't get this attempt to hype Halo's graphics all of a sudden, if anything people should be trying to focus attention away from the graphics.

racing1750

Well, gameplay wise it will most likelly deliver. Ppl just were surprised with the graphics because no one was expecting it to look that good.

Yeah, it is :D

NOOO THE PRETTY POLYGONS!

Frankly, if they released Reach with the same graphics power as Halo 3, while I'd be surprised, it wouldn't change my fun with the game that much. Halo is not, nor has it ever been, a game about gen defining graphics. Its been about gameplay. Halo 3's online MP is still probably the best out there, and its far more important for reach to deliver in that area. So until we get beta/demo/release/ACTUAL INFORATION, other then just some scans, I really don't care. If I wanted to have beautiful graphics, I'd play my FPS on a PC, no?

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Try to put 40 enemies and 20 vehicles in KZ2´s engine and it will probably run at 1 frame p second. The funny thing is that even with all of that going on at the same time, reach still looks almost as good as KZ2 ;)

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Try to put 40 enemies and 20 vehicles in KZ2´s engine and it will probably run at 1 frame p second. The funny thing is that even with all of that going on at the same time, reach still looks almost as good as KZ2 ;)

Killzone 2 effects

Talk to me when Halo: Reach can do anything like that...

moti-123

Now im all for Cows and Lems arguing. Its fun. But this is ULTRACOW. Dude the game is FAR more technically advanced than Killzone 2, and the fact that graphics are comparable in Alpha stages is just funeeeeee. Did you watch the new video? This game looks amazing in motion, those screens dont do it justice.

O and for kicks, find me a Killzone 2 screen that doesn't use all neutral colors :)

reagrding the huge environment, the mountains and the sky dun count, coz apprantly you think they are counted for the MASSIVE environments, lol. if one game should have some kudos for massive environments , that would be MAG, but sadly lemmings will never do that.2mrw

[QUOTE="moti-123"]

Killzone 2 effects

Talk to me when Halo: Reach can do anything like that...

gamewhat

In a way both game has advatanges over one another. KZ2 because of it's tight space and linear levels makes up for its graphics. Halo Reach however is going for wider levels, more enemies on screen at once, but might have lower textures etc. At the end of the day I don't understand the reason for comparing, if it looks good enough to play then leave it as that.

Killzone 2 effects

Talk to me when Halo: Reach can do anything like that...

moti-123

Colliding particles are sexy.

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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Try to put 40 enemies and 20 vehicles in KZ2´s engine and it will probably run at 1 frame p second. The funny thing is that even with all of that going on at the same time, reach still looks almost as good as KZ2 ;)

2mrw

no one ever said the mountains and sky counted, because they don't need to. Halo 3 has more space that the player can move through than Killzone 2 does for its player.

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Killzone 2 effects

Talk to me when Halo: Reach can do anything like that...

Colliding particles are sexy.

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[QUOTE="moti-123"]

Killzone 2 effects

Talk to me when Halo: Reach can do anything like that...

moti-123

Colliding particles are sexy.

Are seriously comparing what I just posted to this thing? I really hope you are kidding

Screen grabs too.

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="moti-123"]

Killzone 2 effects

Talk to me when Halo: Reach can do anything like that...

moti-123

Colliding particles are sexy.

Are seriously comparing what I just posted to this thing? I really hope you are kidding

Halo: Reach > Jesus > CrapZone 2.

I'm quite childish indeed.

While from what we've seen Reach doesn't look near as good as Killzone 2, I think we all know what game will sell more.

brickdoctor

Screen grabs too.

LOL ur using pre alpha shots? to compare to a released game? The game right now looks much better than the pre alpha, its in Alpha now and we'll likely see another big improvment from here till the beta then tweaks from the beta to the final game.mayceV

[QUOTE="mayceV"]LOL ur using pre alpha shots? to compare to a released game? The game right now looks much better than the pre alpha, its in Alpha now and we'll likely see another big improvment from here till the beta then tweaks from the beta to the final game.2mrw

Look at my post :)

[QUOTE="mayceV"]LOL ur using pre alpha shots? to compare to a released game? The game right now looks much better than the pre alpha, its in Alpha now and we'll likely see another big improvment from here till the beta then tweaks from the beta to the final game.2mrw

[QUOTE="mayceV"]LOL ur using pre alpha shots? to compare to a released game? The game right now looks much better than the pre alpha, its in Alpha now and we'll likely see another big improvment from here till the beta then tweaks from the beta to the final game.2mrw

They have already won the fight Halo 3 gameplay > KZ2 gameplay. You go play your graphics.

They used a Halo Reach concept picture to compare to an actual Killzone 2 in game picture. Is that a joke?Stevo_the_gamer

They used a Halo Reach concept picture to compare to an actual Killzone 2 in game picture. Is that a joke?Stevo_the_gamer

KZ2 looks really embarrassing up-close. Some textures seem like they're from the PS1.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]They used a Halo Reach concept picture to compare to an actual Killzone 2 in game picture. Is that a joke?mitu123

[QUOTE="2mrw"][QUOTE="mayceV"]LOL ur using pre alpha shots? to compare to a released game? The game right now looks much better than the pre alpha, its in Alpha now and we'll likely see another big improvment from here till the beta then tweaks from the beta to the final game.MC3887

Look at my post :)

[QUOTE="2mrw"][QUOTE="mayceV"]LOL ur using pre alpha shots? to compare to a released game? The game right now looks much better than the pre alpha, its in Alpha now and we'll likely see another big improvment from here till the beta then tweaks from the beta to the final game.mayceV

Visually alan wake>Reach, however technically Reach>>>>Alan wake.

As of now, and from what I've seen of Reach, KZ2 does look better. But passing a final judgement on it before release isn't fair. The game still looks amazing technically and artistically :). I like that it's darker and grittier--like KZ2 :P.

And LMAO at them using a concept art to compare.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]They used a Halo Reach concept picture to compare to an actual Killzone 2 in game picture. Is that a joke?Stevo_the_gamer

The vidoc is alpha.

[QUOTE="moti-123"]

Killzone 2 effects

Talk to me when Halo: Reach can do anything like that...

Vaasman

Colliding particles are sexy.

Awesome.

Btw, PWNED!

yes reach doesnt look anything special but graphics aside, reach will single handedly destroy majority of ps3 library including killzone 2

sikanderahmed

[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

KZ2 looks really embarrassing up-close. Some textures seem like they're from the PS1.

moti-123

Yeah, no doubt..

*pics showcasing texture quality in KZ2*

As someone who has played KZ2 thoroughly, I can attest to the fact that KZ2's textures are godly. Some of the best on a console.