Halo Wars is nothing special

I spent a couple of hours with the Halo Wars demo last night and concluded that DoW was better than it a DoW is 4+ years old.

It's not that Halo Wars is bad or anything it's just nothing new on the RTS front and no matter what anyone says or does an RTS is easier to play with a mouse. I had certain times when I wanted to split of my forces and it's just not that easy.

The zoom could be better as well.

I think the main reason people will get this is for the story not the RTS gameplay.

i hope this is a flop.. i truely do..

this is microsofts last hope.

i hope this is a flop.. i truely do..

this is microsofts last hope.

hyperkass

The only console right now thats needs a "last hope" is the PS3 it has decreased in sales, is in last place, lowest software attach rate, smallest game library, not even close to the previous gen sales, and so on.

It could possibly be the best RTS on consoles, and it'll most likely be the highest selling RTS on consoles. I'm still not buying the crap because I hate the RTS genreUGCoat

I found it fun.

The cutscenes were pretty good also.

Halo Wars Demo Crushes Xbox Live Download Records

Over 2 million users tried out Ensemble's Halo RTS in just five days.

Looks like a few people might be interested!

I am not saying it's a bad game it's just a standard RTS set in a particular universe telling a particular story.

It's implemented very well and all works fine but it's not anything we haven't seen before in other games.

There will always be the issue of using a console controller when playing an RTS and I am not sure they have solved that.

i hope this is a flop.. i truely do..

this is microsofts last hope.

hyperkass

I spent a couple of hours with the Halo Wars demo last night and concluded that DoW was better than it a DoW is 4+ years old.

It's not that Halo Wars is bad or anything it's just nothing new on the RTS front (the same things where said about the original Halo and its sequels in regards to FPS) and no matter what anyone says or does an RTS is easier to play with a mouse. I had certain times when I wanted to split of my forces and it's just not that easy.

The zoom could be better as well.

I think the main reason people will get this is for the story not the RTS gameplay.

Nomad0404

IMO the reason this game will be important is because it will bring a large following of Halo fans to the RTS market. This is a good thing for gaming in general.

Yep, nothing special about arguably the biggest name in FPS for the first time being done as a RTS and seeming to get great reviews from gamers who have tried the demo and my guess is, great reviews from the Pro's as well.

Yup, nothing special indeed. :roll:

Now, if it were a shiny new FPS but the rest of the game is a been there done that dozens of times like a certain other game launching soon many are hyped about then you would have a good point. :P

The controls for Halo Wars is ONLY good because you can only do simple commands and tactics. Halo Wars is the most shallow RTS game I ever played. dthach614

No.

It's hilerious that the Halo shooter gets called a generic, average, load of junk when there was no other shooter on consoles that matched it at the time and when they bring the franchise into unexplored land, into a genre that is lacking on consoles there called out on that too.

Mark my words if this RTS kicks off, if it gets the thumbs up of the fans and becomes a massive hit, you'll see more follow suit and in a few years time we'll have greyzone wars and you fanboys will be bragging about how innovative and amazing it is.

Microsoft leads and Sony will undoubtably follow if it turns out to be a winner. Reality is kids you need to start somewhere, you can't jump into a RTS on a console and make it as deep as a PC one right off the bat AND keep decent controls, it'll evolve and become deeper over time as the genre expands, if it expands that rests on HW right now as I'm sure everyone can agree it's the biggest RTS to ever come out on a console, weither you like it or not.

As a RTS in general it's pretty mediocore. As a console RTS, it's one of the better ones. That's not saying that much though.AnObscureName

If it wasn't Halo no one would care about that casual garbage.

Because 360 gamers hate on the Wii for being casual, I'm going to hate on this game. :D

i hope this is a flop.. i truely do..

this is microsofts last hope.

hyperkass

i hope this is a flop.. i truely do..

this is microsofts last hope.

hyperkass

MS has 109+ "last hopes" below

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26715971

Also Halo Wars is amazing, fast and fun, i enjoyed it far better than the more of the same linear shooting in Killzone 2 demo personally

The demo was mildly amusing, but I sure as hell wouldn't drop $60 to play the full game.jethrovegas

But didn't you see the name on it??? It says "HALO" right on the cover. Hand over your money good sir :) Seriously though Halo is a boring ugly FPS so this could actually be better

I spent a couple of hours with the Halo Wars demo last night and concluded that DoW was better than it a DoW is 4+ years old. It's not that Halo Wars is bad or anything it's just nothing new on the RTS front and no matter what anyone says or does an RTS is easier to play with a mouse. I had certain times when I wanted to split of my forces and it's just not that easy.The zoom could be better as well. I think the main reason people will get this is for the story not the RTS gameplay. Nomad0404

I didnt read through the rest of the threads but i def agree with this. its done nothing new and the only reason its gonna sell is because its part of the halo universe. its done nothing new with the genre which i believe to be no fun on a console. RTS should be played on a pc its more fun that way and faster

i hope this is a flop.. i truely do..

this is microsofts last hope.

[QUOTE="hyperkass"]

i hope this is a flop.. i truely do..

this is microsofts last hope.

rybe1025

The only console right now thats needs a "last hope" is the PS3 it has decreased in sales, is in last place, lowest software attach rate, smallest game library, not even close to the previous gen sales, and so on.

So people are bashing Halo Wars for doing nothing new? Sorry, what does Killzone 2 do new again?-DrRobotnik-

I see alot of people bashing Halo Wars for "not doing anything new". Very few games these days do actually do anything new. It's not always a bad thing that they don't either.

Look at my most anticipated game, DoW2. this actually does try a few new things, new for DoW and new for the standard Pc RTS. What is the result? Many press and PC gamers complaining that it is infact different and bashing it as a result. So don't come in here talking about that garbage.

Fact is cow's are mad they don't have any good RTS games (they'll continue to bash the genre until they do). Hermits are upset at the prospect of Halo Wars turning the RTS genre into a "mainstream" genre, thus endangering future PC RTS games going multi and being dumbed down.

I don't think anyone expected HW to be complex or anything special in the RTS world, just in the console RTS world. I like many am just irritated at how 360 gamers are RTS experts all of a sudden and have the nerve to make out like PC RTS games are not fun, yet halo wars is. Maybe they should actually go play some other RTS games, not all PC games are complex and deep.

I see alot of people bashing Halo Wars for "not doing anything new". Very few games these days do actually do anything new. It's not always a bad thing that they don't either.

Look at my most anticipated game, DoW2. this actually does try a few new things, new for DoW and new for the standard Pc RTS. What is the result? Many press and PC gamers complaining that it is infact different and bashing it as a result. So don't come in here talking about that garbage.

Fact is cow's are mad they don't have any good RTS games (they'll continue to bash the genre until they do). Hermits are upset at the prospect of Halo Wars turning the RTS genre into a "mainstream" genre, thus endangering future PC RTS games going multi and being dumbed down.

I don't think anyone expected HW to be complex or anything special in the RTS world, just in the console RTS world. I like many am just irritated at how 360 gamers are RTS experts all of a sudden and have the nerve to make out like PC RTS games are not fun, yet halo wars is. Maybe they should actually go play some other RTS games, not all PC games are complex and deep.

Frozzik

This is such a basic game is hurts, controlls arn't THAT bad though its definatly usable.

For an RTS though this game is a poor example, if it didn't have the Halo title it no doubt would never even get the time of day. Having said that though I got more enjoyment from the Halo Wars demo then any other Halo before it :P

As you may have guessed, halo really isn't my cup of tea

[QUOTE="Frozzik"]

I see alot of people bashing Halo Wars for "not doing anything new". Very few games these days do actually do anything new. It's not always a bad thing that they don't either.

Look at my most anticipated game, DoW2. this actually does try a few new things, new for DoW and new for the standard Pc RTS. What is the result? Many press and PC gamers complaining that it is infact different and bashing it as a result. So don't come in here talking about that garbage.

Fact is cow's are mad they don't have any good RTS games (they'll continue to bash the genre until they do). Hermits are upset at the prospect of Halo Wars turning the RTS genre into a "mainstream" genre, thus endangering future PC RTS games going multi and being dumbed down.

I don't think anyone expected HW to be complex or anything special in the RTS world, just in the console RTS world. I like many am just irritated at how 360 gamers are RTS experts all of a sudden and have the nerve to make out like PC RTS games are not fun, yet halo wars is. Maybe they should actually go play some other RTS games, not all PC games are complex and deep.

Animal-Mother

I used to always play RTS on consoles, sure, now i play them on PC and they are better but before i got into PC gaming i always found controller fine. I just didn't know any different.

Are you kidding me?

The word "Halo" alone makes it more special than you can ever be.

*Hopes you get the sarcasm.*

[QUOTE="Frozzik"]

I see alot of people bashing Halo Wars for "not doing anything new". Very few games these days do actually do anything new. It's not always a bad thing that they don't either.

Look at my most anticipated game, DoW2. this actually does try a few new things, new for DoW and new for the standard Pc RTS. What is the result? Many press and PC gamers complaining that it is infact different and bashing it as a result. So don't come in here talking about that garbage.

Fact is cow's are mad they don't have any good RTS games (they'll continue to bash the genre until they do). Hermits are upset at the prospect of Halo Wars turning the RTS genre into a "mainstream" genre, thus endangering future PC RTS games going multi and being dumbed down.

I don't think anyone expected HW to be complex or anything special in the RTS world, just in the console RTS world. I like many am just irritated at how 360 gamers are RTS experts all of a sudden and have the nerve to make out like PC RTS games are not fun, yet halo wars is. Maybe they should actually go play some other RTS games, not all PC games are complex and deep.

Animal-Mother

Its got enough to be special to me (Story, Halo universe), and the gameplay is back to where I loved RTS games (simple). For me, this game will be a no-brainer, and the only thing that would make it better would be some kind of co-op game mode, but its not a major omission. SpruceCaboose