[QUOTE="General_X"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]Even if you don't include the disc with the Halo 3 mp, which is stupid, there's still the campaign, Halo: Reach mp beta, co-op and firefight on the other disc.SpruceCaboose
And The Orange Box sells for $30 dollars and comes with 3 games and 2 expansions. Hell Team Fortress 2 at $15-$20 comes with more replay value than ODST with FREE map and content updates. Crysis Warhead also came out at $30 (though I bought if for $15 new at Gamestop) and came as a standalone expansion and improved multiplayer/maps in the included disk Crysis Wars. Then don't buy it. Or are you expecting us Halo fans to run to internet petitions like you Valve fans did (I am assuming you are a Valve fan since you keep bringing up the Orange Box). Oh I won't buy it that's for sure, just like I didn't buy the original Left 4 Dead because I didn't feel the content was worth the $50 asking price. I also won't buy Left 4 Dead 2 until it is $25 or less or bundeled with L4D 1. Also if this game is a hit expect more expansions for full price because MS will know it can take advantage of its fan base.
And The Orange Box sells for $30 dollars and comes with 3 games and 2 expansions. Hell Team Fortress 2 at $15-$20 comes with more replay value than ODST with FREE map and content updates.
Crysis Warhead also came out at $30 (though I bought if for $15 new at Gamestop) and came as a standalone expansion and improved multiplayer/maps in the included disk Crysis Wars.General_X
Halo 3 ODST will probably cost around the same two years after it's released as well. Orange Box came out in 2007, why the **** would it be full price right now? Team Fortress 2 shipped with how many maps? Yeah, six maps. That's some icredible value ... I mean, a whole six maps? Wow!
Too bad Cryis Wars is horrible in comparison to Halo 3's multiplayer.
Microsoft shouldnt have ever labeled this an expansion if they plan on releasing it at full price. Besides, I'm sure the campaign is enough to warrant a 60 dollar purchase considering how many other games have 8 hour campaigns with no multiplayer and retail for 60.
Microsoft shouldnt have ever labeled this an expansion if they plan on releasing it at full price. Besides, I'm sure the campaign is enough to warrant a 60 dollar purchase considering how many other games have 8 hour campaigns with no multiplayer and retail for 60.carljohnson3456
Content isn't really why expansions are priced the way they are. I know plenty of expansions that have twice the content of your average console game, but they are still reduced price. It is just a consumer expectation that they should be cheaper.
And The Orange Box sells for $30 dollars and comes with 3 games and 2 expansions. Hell Team Fortress 2 at $15-$20 comes with more replay value than ODST with FREE map and content updates.
Crysis Warhead also came out at $30 (though I bought if for $15 new at Gamestop) and came as a standalone expansion and improved multiplayer/maps in the included disk Crysis Wars.Stevo_the_gamer
Halo 3 ODST will probably cost around the same two years after it's released as well. Orange Box came out in 2007, why the **** would it be full price right now? Team Fortress 2 shipped with how many maps? Yeah, six maps. That's some icredible value ... I mean, a whole six maps? Wow!
Too bad Cryis Wars is horrible in comparison to Halo 3's multiplayer.
The Orange Box was $40 when it was first released and has sold for as little as $15 recently from Steam's weekend deals. Also, unlike Halo 3, Team Fortress 2 comes with free map releases and multitudes of made from scratch user made maps. And I believe you have Crysis Wars confused with the orignal Crysis' multiplayer because Crysis Wars is really quite superb.
Wait i have a question. I didn't buy Halo 3, but multiplayer is pretty fun. So if i buy this, it'l have new campaign and new game mode, plus is second disc going to be basically Halo 3 multiplayer with all maps?
[QUOTE="General_X"]Oh I won't buy it that's for sure, just like I didn't buy the original Left 4 Dead because I didn't feel the content was worth the $50 asking price. I also won't buy Left 4 Dead 2 until it is $25 or less or bundeled with L4D 1. Also if this game is a hit expect more expansions for full price because MS will know it can take advantage of its fan base. And it certainly will be a hit, and I will be there day one at midnight to get it too.
And The Orange Box sells for $30 dollars and comes with 3 games and 2 expansions. Hell Team Fortress 2 at $15-$20 comes with more replay value than ODST with FREE map and content updates.
Crysis Warhead also came out at $30 (though I bought if for $15 new at Gamestop) and came as a standalone expansion and improved multiplayer/maps in the included disk Crysis Wars.General_X
Halo 3 ODST will probably cost around the same two years after it's released as well. Orange Box came out in 2007, why the **** would it be full price right now? Team Fortress 2 shipped with how many maps? Yeah, six maps. That's some icredible value ... I mean, a whole six maps? Wow!
Too bad Cryis Wars is horrible in comparison to Halo 3's multiplayer.
The Orange Box was $40 when it was first released and has sold for as little as $15 recently from Steam's weekend deals. Not sure about you but I bought the Orange Box for 60.
I don't think it bothers anyone, ps3 owners purchased grand turismon prologue (a quarter ofthe completedgame) for 40 bucks. All game developers can sell half of a game and people won't care to pay the price.
[QUOTE="DaViD_99"]Wait i have a question. I didn't buy Halo 3, but multiplayer is pretty fun. So if i buy this, it'l have new campaign and new game mode, plus is second disc going to be basically Halo 3 multiplayer with all maps?Yes, the second disk is Halo 3's mutiplayer in full with all the maps plus the three downloadable map packs and the free Bungie day map.
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="DaViD_99"]Wait i have a question. I didn't buy Halo 3, but multiplayer is pretty fun. So if i buy this, it'l have new campaign and new game mode, plus is second disc going to be basically Halo 3 multiplayer with all maps?Yes, the second disk is Halo 3's mutiplayer in full with all the maps plus the three downloadable map packs and the free Bungie day map. They should pull a Sony and offer too versions of the game like Sony did with SOCOM and Warhawk. Offer a full 60 dollar version with the Halo 3 multiplayer, or offer a $40 version of just the campaign.
[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="General_X"]Oh I won't buy it that's for sure, just like I didn't buy the original Left 4 Dead because I didn't feel the content was worth the $50 asking price. I also won't buy Left 4 Dead 2 until it is $25 or less or bundeled with L4D 1. Also if this game is a hit expect more expansions for full price because MS will know it can take advantage of its fan base. And it certainly will be a hit, and I will be there day one at midnight to get it too. Your a Halo fan i see?
[QUOTE="General_X"]The Orange Box was $40 when it was first releasedStevo_the_gamer
Um, no it wasn't. Where the heck did you pull that from? :|Well I guess $40 was the price I paid when I bought it (after I got my gaming rig a couple years ago). And are you really trying to argue value of one multiplayer mode and one campaign (ODST) against the value of one superior campaign with two expansions(Half Life 2 series), one content rich multiplayer game(Team Fortress 2), and one completely genius puzzle game(Portal) combined for the same price?
[QUOTE="tylergamereview"]I don't think it is right. It is no where near the content to justify 60 dollars. The map packs are nice, but it's still not enough. It should be lessmitu123
It has a new campaign, plays differently from Halo 3, and has new modes with Halo 3 maps, sounds worth it. Well for one, the campaign is very short. The price was lower before because of that. Only 3-5 hours long was the estimate. Playing different from Halo 3 does not make it good. Playing differently doesn't automatically make anything good. Just look at Devil May Cry 2 for example. It played differently, and was awful. The new modes aren't going to justify 60 bucks either. It will be fun for a little while, but it won't keep you entertained long enough to make it worth it.
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]Not sure about you but I bought the Orange Box for 60.carljohnson3456
I bough it for PC for $50. (Superior version, *ahem*) :P Dont even get me started. I made the mistake of buying the PS3 version! FAIL! :lol: Why would you buy a PS3 multiplat if you have a 360?
[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I bough it for PC for $50. (Superior version, *ahem*) :Pmitu123
Dont even get me started. I made the mistake of buying the PS3 version! FAIL! :lol: Why would you buy a PS3 multiplat if you have a 360? I usually buy all my multiplats for my PS3, but the Orange Box was a huge mistake.
Well I that was the price I paid when I bought it (after I got my gaming rig a couple years ago). And are you really trying to argue value of one multiplayer mode and one campaign (ODST) against the value of one superior campaign with two expansions(Half Life 2 series), one content rich multiplayer game(Team Fortress 2), and one completely genius puzzle game(Portal) combined for the same price?General_X
Orange Box cost $50 and $60 during the time of launch. I would never even attempt to argue the value of The Orange Box against Halo 3 ODST. I was merely pointing out the flaws in your argument, and it's incredibly unfair to compair a compilation of games against a single standalone expansion anyways.
[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="tylergamereview"]I don't think it is right. It is no where near the content to justify 60 dollars. The map packs are nice, but it's still not enough. It should be lesstylergamereview
It has a new campaign, plays differently from Halo 3, and has new modes with Halo 3 maps, sounds worth it. Well for one, the campaign is very short. The price was lower before because of that. Only 3-5 hours long was the estimate. Playing different from Halo 3 does not make it good. Playing differently doesn't automatically make anything good. Just look at Devil May Cry 2 for example. It played differently, and was awful. The new modes aren't going to justify 60 bucks either. It will be fun for a little while, but it won't keep you entertained long enough to make it worth it. Actually, I read that'll be like up to 8 hours now that they changed the price from $40 to $60, and different gameplay is entirely subjective, some may/may not like the game.
halo 3's multiplayer actually sucks compared to crysis wars. the warthog is more fun to drive on halo than jeep on crysis, but you can shoot the jeeps gun while driving on crysis, on halo you gotta exist the driver seat and then jump onto the back to shoot the turret and you cant drive then lol. the maps are way better on crysis, overall core gameplay is better than halo besides no grenade/rocket jump like halo which was ripped off from quake anyway.
[QUOTE="DaViD_99"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="General_X"]Oh I won't buy it that's for sure, just like I didn't buy the original Left 4 Dead because I didn't feel the content was worth the $50 asking price. I also won't buy Left 4 Dead 2 until it is $25 or less or bundeled with L4D 1. Also if this game is a hit expect more expansions for full price because MS will know it can take advantage of its fan base. And it certainly will be a hit, and I will be there day one at midnight to get it too. Your a Halo fan i see? Certainly am.
[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] Dont even get me started. I made the mistake of buying the PS3 version! FAIL! :lol: Why would you buy a PS3 multiplat if you have a 360? I usually buy all my multiplats for my PS3, but the Orange Box was a huge mistake. Oh I see, that explains it, though my multiplats are for 360/PC.
[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Why would you buy a PS3 multiplat if you have a 360?mitu123
I usually buy all my multiplats for my PS3, but the Orange Box was a huge mistake. Oh I see, that explains it, though my multiplats are for 360/PC. Yeah, well I'll never buy another Valve game on the PS3 again. Or at least until they get the "bandwidth" to do so, lol. Like Tragic Kingdom said, it wasnt THAT bad... but the support for it sucked.
[QUOTE="General_X"]Well I that was the price I paid when I bought it (after I got my gaming rig a couple years ago). And are you really trying to argue value of one multiplayer mode and one campaign (ODST) against the value of one superior campaign with two expansions(Half Life 2 series), one content rich multiplayer game(Team Fortress 2), and one completely genius puzzle game(Portal) combined for the same price?Stevo_the_gamer
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2episode2ob/news.html?sid=6179984&mode=news" title="http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2episode2ob/news.html?sid=6179984&mode=news">Orange Box cost $50 and $60 during the time of launch. I would never even attempt to argue the value of The Orange Box against Halo 3 ODST. I was merely pointing out the flaws in your argument, and it's incredibly unfair to compair a compilation of games against a single standalone expansion anyways.Which I guess in a roundabout way proves my point that Halo ODST should cost no more than $50.
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="General_X"]Well I that was the price I paid when I bought it (after I got my gaming rig a couple years ago). And are you really trying to argue value of one multiplayer mode and one campaign (ODST) against the value of one superior campaign with two expansions(Half Life 2 series), one content rich multiplayer game(Team Fortress 2), and one completely genius puzzle game(Portal) combined for the same price?General_X
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2episode2ob/news.html?sid=6179984&mode=news" title="http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2episode2ob/news.html?sid=6179984&mode=news">Orange Box cost $50 and $60 during the time of launch. I would never even attempt to argue the value of The Orange Box against Halo 3 ODST. I was merely pointing out the flaws in your argument, and it's incredibly unfair to compair a compilation of games against a single standalone expansion anyways.Which I guess in a roundabout way proves my point that Halo ODST should cost no more than $50. Mirror's Edge retailed for $60. Heavenly Sword retailed for $60. There are all kinds of games that dont warrant a $60 price tag but no one complains. I have a feeling if MS never called this game an "expansion" then no one would bat an eye at this price point.
Which I guess in a roundabout way proves my point that Halo ODST should cost no more than $50.General_X
Halo 3: ODST should be priced as an expansion, I was hoping for a $39.99 price point. I'm incredibly disappointing by Microsoft's actions. Needless to say, I agree with you when you say it should be cheaper. Just make sure your arguments are a bit more sound, and not spout out faulty claims. :P
[QUOTE="General_X"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2episode2ob/news.html?sid=6179984&mode=news" title="http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2episode2ob/news.html?sid=6179984&mode=news">Orange Box cost $50 and $60 during the time of launch. I would never even attempt to argue the value of The Orange Box against Halo 3 ODST. I was merely pointing out the flaws in your argument, and it's incredibly unfair to compair a compilation of games against a single standalone expansion anyways.carljohnson3456
Which I guess in a roundabout way proves my point that Halo ODST should cost no more than $50. Mirror's Edge retailed for $60. Heavenly Sword retailed for $60. There are all kinds of games that dont warrant a $60 price tag but no one complains. I have a feeling if MS never called this game an "expansion" then no one would bat an eye at this price point. I don't know about Mirror's Edge, but people thought HS and Uncharted were overpriced at launch because they were so short...and people weren't used to short games at the time.
Mirror's Edge retailed for $60. Heavenly Sword retailed for $60. There are all kinds of games that dont warrant a $60 price tag but no one complains. I have a feeling if MS never called this game an "expansion" then no one would bat an eye at this price point.carljohnson3456
The issue for me is that I follow Bungie, I'm a huge Bungie fan -- I've been playing their games since Marathon and Myth. They stated they don't view this as a full game (calling it an expansion as well), and that the price would reflect that -- now that it's full price, and I want to hear an official statement from Bungie regarding their change of heart, and not some Microsof PR drivel.
[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] Dont even get me started. I made the mistake of buying the PS3 version! FAIL! :lol:carljohnson3456
If you don't have the 360/PC versions to compare it with, the PS3 version is not that bad.
No, but Team Fortress 2 was dead on arrival on the PS3.
I can definitely see how that can a huge negative to people who like TF2, but I never really got into it (my favorite game on the collection was Portal), so it wasn't a huge deal to me. I was more irritated with the numerous frame-rate issues.
[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]Mirror's Edge retailed for $60. Heavenly Sword retailed for $60. There are all kinds of games that dont warrant a $60 price tag but no one complains. I have a feeling if MS never called this game an "expansion" then no one would bat an eye at this price point.Stevo_the_gamer
The issue for me is that I follow Bungie, I'm a huge Bungie fan -- I've been playing their games since Marathon and Myth. They stated they don't view this as a full game (calling it an expansion as well), and that the price would reflect that -- now that it's full price, and I want to hear an official statement from Bungie regarding their change of heart, and not some Microsof PR drivel. I can understand that 100%. By the way, I voted for your set up... your game room and PC set up is freaking ridiculous. lol.
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