Has PC only had one AAA exclusive title since 1998?

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#451 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

Of course you didn't, unless someone says something that praises the PC as the second coming of Christ Hermits will disregard it.

Obviously_Right

You're not helping your case.

As I said, here on SW, I never saw you form a cohesive arguement of any kind... :(

You can repeat yourself as many times as you like.

Won't make it any more relevant.:(

Fine by me...

After all, I'm not here to try fixing the delusions of other people, I'm here to laugh at them, and you provide some solid material, so you have my thanks :)

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#454 Vaasman
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No love for WiC in this thread :(

One of my favorite games this gen.

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#455 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

he made a thread. you still have to convince people that it's true.

CaseyWegner

Good luck with that!

Only a few suspensions for spam will convince most of them, many won't accept any words or explanations, no matter how convincing or reasonable.

For some consolites, it was a grand opportunity to bash the crap out of PC, and to considerably shrink the PC exclusive library, they won't stop playing that angle that easily...

it'll certainly help but it won't necessarily put it to rest. same deal with my "the pc is part of system wars" thread five years ago. it made a big difference but didn't stop everybody.

Well, there'll always be a few stuborn ones, but this MAC affair didn't bring any change to SW as whole, all remains the same, so the whole thing will be forgotten in a week or two.

I'm just saying a few warnings to the most vocal bashers would speed things up a little :P

Wasn't here when PC became a part of SW, but that was a permanent and signifficant change, this MAC stuff is nothing.

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#457 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="TheEroica"] Whoa whoa whoa... im no supporter of ispeakfact nonsense believe me, but thats b.s.... if a shared game between pc and 360 is considered multiplat then it sure the hell is between mac and pc. Im effin tired of stupid systems wars double standards just to make us feel safer. Consistency... either theyre all multiplat or we decide on a new catagory of shared exclusives. Stop the madness.ispeakfact

a personal computer is the platform. the operating system you choose to use is just one of the customization options available to you. it's not a double standard.

I think we're done here.

"The Macintosh (play/mæknt/MAK-in-tosh),[1] or Mac, is a series of personal computers (PCs) designed, developed, and marketed by Apple Inc."

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#458 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="TheEroica"] Whoa whoa whoa... im no supporter of ispeakfact nonsense believe me, but thats b.s.... if a shared game between pc and 360 is considered multiplat then it sure the hell is between mac and pc. Im effin tired of stupid systems wars double standards just to make us feel safer. Consistency... either theyre all multiplat or we decide on a new catagory of shared exclusives. Stop the madness.ispeakfact

a personal computer is the platform. the operating system you choose to use is just one of the customization options available to you. it's not a double standard.

I think we're done here.

Indeed! :)

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So this thread shows that the console fanboys here are like the soviet union circa 1943....who cares about how low grade your stuff is, if the boss says it's good and can pump out 40 of them every minute on a conveyor belt, it's great! F*ck quality! :lol:

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[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

a personal computer is the platform. the operating system you choose to use is just one of the customization options available to you. it's not a double standard.

CaseyWegner

I think we're done here.

"The Macintosh (play/mæknt/MAK-in-tosh),[1] or Mac, is a series of personal computers (PCs) designed, developed, and marketed by Apple Inc."

It's no use...they're way to far gone to be helped at this point.

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#461 KiZZo1
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a personal computer is the platform. the operating system you choose to use is just one of the customization options available to you. it's not a double standard.

CaseyWegner

But you cannot install Mac OS on non-Apple hardware without breaking its EULA. I thought the illegal use of software is not discussed on SW, you of all people should know that.

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#462 lostrib
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

a personal computer is the platform. the operating system you choose to use is just one of the customization options available to you. it's not a double standard.

KiZZo1

But you cannot install Mac OS on non-Apple hardware without breaking its EULA. I thought the illegal use of software is not discussed on SW, you of all people should know that.

But you can install windows on a Macbook

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#463 EvanTheGamer
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PC does have 'games' but they aren't relevant in terms of the industry.

This is why there are console wars, not console+PC wars.

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#464 EvanTheGamer
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PC does have 'games' but they aren't relevant in terms of the industry.

This is why there are console wars, not console+PC wars.

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#465 EvanTheGamer
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PC does have 'games' but they aren't relevant in terms of the industry.

This is why there are console wars, not console+PC wars.

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#466 lostrib
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PC does have 'games' but they aren't relevant in terms of the industry.

This is why there are console wars, not console+PC wars.

EvanTheGamer

No, it's because PC always wins

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#467 Rocker6
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PC does have 'games' but they aren't relevant in terms of the industry.

This is why there are console wars, not console+PC wars.

EvanTheGamer

Actually, most innovation happens on the PC...

Everything this console gen is known for happened on the PC a long time ago, stuff like HD (720p) and online gaming, for example.

Also, one of the biggest reasons why CoD is the most popular MP shooter on consoles is 60 FPS, which is a PC standard for on-line gaming, one that provides very smooth and responsive gaming experience...

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#468 CaseyWegner
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PC does have 'games' but they aren't relevant in terms of the industry.

This is why there are console wars, not console+PC wars.

EvanTheGamer

you're posting in the system wars forum...not the console wars forum. how are they not relevant to the game industry when they share so many games with consoles?

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#469 nitekids2004
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[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

PC does have 'games' but they aren't relevant in terms of the industry.

This is why there are console wars, not console+PC wars.

CaseyWegner

you're posting in the system wars forum...not the console wars forum. how are they not relevant to the game industry when they share so many games with consoles?

Alot of the PC's AAs and AAAs are like Sword and Sorcery. No one really cares about those $1 games. Even looking at metacritic, 9 out of the top 10 are multiplats.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

PC does have 'games' but they aren't relevant in terms of the industry.

This is why there are console wars, not console+PC wars.

nitekids2004

you're posting in the system wars forum...not the console wars forum. how are they not relevant to the game industry when they share so many games with consoles?

Alot of the PC's AAs and AAAs are like Sword and Sorcery. No one really cares about those $1 games. Even looking at metacritic, 9 out of the top 10 are multiplats.

and yet it has very popular games like WoW, starcraft, total war, etc. and was even where the call of duty behemoth got started.

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#471 nitekids2004
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[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

you're posting in the system wars forum...not the console wars forum. how are they not relevant to the game industry when they share so many games with consoles?

CaseyWegner

Alot of the PC's AAs and AAAs are like Sword and Sorcery. No one really cares about those $1 games. Even looking at metacritic, 9 out of the top 10 are multiplats.

and yet it has very popular games like WoW, starcraft, total war, etc. and was even where the call of duty behemoth got started.

Always said that the PC AAA-AA "exclusive" list is misleading.

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#472 Meinhard1
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But how many definitive versions has it had?
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#473 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Alot of the PC's AAs and AAAs are like Sword and Sorcery. No one really cares about those $1 games. Even looking at metacritic, 9 out of the top 10 are multiplats.

nitekids2004

and yet it has very popular games like WoW, starcraft, total war, etc. and was even where the call of duty behemoth got started.

Always said that the PC AAA-AA "exclusive" list is misleading.

misleading how?

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#474 nitekids2004
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[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

and yet it has very popular games like WoW, starcraft, total war, etc. and was even where the call of duty behemoth got started.

CaseyWegner

Always said that the PC AAA-AA "exclusive" list is misleading.

misleading how?

$1-$2 dollar games are judged using different standards than the $40-$50 ones but are treated as equal weights in the list.

Case in point: Sword and Sorcery scoring 9.0. I can dig up alot more of these games if you want.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Always said that the PC AAA-AA "exclusive" list is misleading.

nitekids2004

misleading how?

$1-$2 dollar games are judged using different standards than the $40-$50 ones but are treated as equal weights in the list.

Case in point: Sword and Sorcery scoring 9.0. I can dig up alot more of these games if you want.

Sword and Sworcery isn't even a PC exclusive, it was a telephone game first.

But no, go on, dig up alot more of those games.

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[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

PC does have 'games' but they aren't relevant in terms of the industry.

This is why there are console wars, not console+PC wars.

lostrib

No, it's because PC always wins

At GOTY?

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Always said that the PC AAA-AA "exclusive" list is misleading.

nitekids2004

misleading how?

$1-$2 dollar games are judged using different standards than the $40-$50 ones but are treated as equal weights in the list.

Case in point: Sword and Sorcery scoring 9.0. I can dig up alot more of these games if you want.

S&S isn´t included on the PC side of the spreadsheet,as you can see.

But,from those that are included feel free to point out wich ones do you think shouldn´t count,and then let´s see if that makes a difference in the overall numbers.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

i don't think you know how to use that website, know how to read dates, or how to tell exlusive from not exlusive. which is it? look at this link.

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/pc?sort=desc&view=detailed

quite a few after 1998.

ispeakfact

Half Life 2 is a multiplat Out of the Park Baseball is a multiplat Orange Box multiplat Half Life Multiplat Bioshock multiplat etc. etc. etc. Still not seeing any exclusives.

You need to take a look at that list again there. Quite a few exclusives on there. A good 10+.

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#479 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

PC does have 'games' but they aren't relevant in terms of the industry.

This is why there are console wars, not console+PC wars.

VGKING

No, it's because PC always wins

At GOTY?

I guess that would depend on the publication. But it has the best graphics and smoothest gameplay possible and largest library with the largetst number of high rated games

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#481 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Always said that the PC AAA-AA "exclusive" list is misleading.

nitekids2004

misleading how?

$1-$2 dollar games are judged using different standards than the $40-$50 ones but are treated as equal weights in the list.

Case in point: Sword and Sorcery scoring 9.0. I can dig up alot more of these games if you want.

i can assure you that the games i mentioned are more than $1.

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#482 VGKING
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[QUOTE="VGKING"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

No, it's because PC always wins

lostrib

At GOTY?

I guess that would depend on the publication. But it has the best graphics and smoothest gameplay possible and largest library with the largetst number of high rated games

Ok... pick a publication.

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#483 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="VGKING"]

At GOTY?

VGKING

I guess that would depend on the publication. But it has the best graphics and smoothest gameplay possible and largest library with the largetst number of high rated games

Ok... pick a publication.

PC Gamer.

Check and mate.

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#484 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="VGKING"]

At GOTY?

VGKING

I guess that would depend on the publication. But it has the best graphics and smoothest gameplay possible and largest library with the largetst number of high rated games

Ok... pick a publication.

ok, PC Gamer

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#485 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="VGKING"]

At GOTY?

VGKING

I guess that would depend on the publication. But it has the best graphics and smoothest gameplay possible and largest library with the largetst number of high rated games

Ok... pick a publication.

ok, PC Gamer

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Alot of the PC's AAs and AAAs are like Sword and Sorcery. No one really cares about those $1 games. Even looking at metacritic, 9 out of the top 10 are multiplats.

nitekids2004

and yet it has very popular games like WoW, starcraft, total war, etc. and was even where the call of duty behemoth got started.

Always said that the PC AAA-AA "exclusive" list is misleading.

Only because you cant understand it.

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#487 KiZZo1
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[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

a personal computer is the platform. the operating system you choose to use is just one of the customization options available to you. it's not a double standard.

lostrib

But you cannot install Mac OS on non-Apple hardware without breaking its EULA. I thought the illegal use of software is not discussed on SW, you of all people should know that.

But you can install windows on a Macbook

But you can install windows on a Dreamcast ... now what?

If anything you could install windows on, is a PC, then the Dreamcast is a PC and hermits can claim its games as their own.

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#488 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

But you cannot install Mac OS on non-Apple hardware without breaking its EULA. I thought the illegal use of software is not discussed on SW, you of all people should know that.

KiZZo1

But you can install windows on a Macbook

But you can install windows on a Dreamcast ... now what?

If anything you could install windows on, is a PC, then the Dreamcast is a PC and hermits can claim its games as their own.

There is a sticky thread about this whole MAC affair...

Instead of speaking crap here, I advise you to read it, and if you disagree and think something should be changed or added contact the mods.

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#489 zekere
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Heroes of Might and Magic 3 is my GOE, Game of Evah !!!!! So is UT2k4 and Quake 2, and Command and Conquer...

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Total War series...

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#491 mitu123
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This thread is still going, WTF?O_o

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#492 quebec946
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pc games standarts are too high for any aaaa games

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#494 quebec946
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pc games standarts are too high for any aaaa games

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#495 General_X
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Actually just thinking about Hermits is general makes me....

and...

and I think of their social life and..

and when thinking about their love life in the future I just....

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Sure is ad hominem in here...
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#496 tonitorsi
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Actually just thinking about Hermits is general makes me....

and...

and I think of their social life and..

and when thinking about their love life in the future I just....

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No flaw detected in this post. :lol:
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#498 aroxx_ab
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pc games standarts are too high for any aaaa games

quebec946

No, PC games has low standard, broken games get released all the time and devs think "its ok can fix it later with patch". The bad is consoles going towards that direction too :cry:

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#499 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="quebec946"]

pc games standarts are too high for any aaaa games

aroxx_ab

No, PC games has low standard, broken games get released all the time and devs think "its ok can fix it later with patch". The bad is consoles going towards that direction too :cry:

you sure you're not exaggerating?

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#500 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="quebec946"]

pc games standarts are too high for any aaaa games

aroxx_ab

No, PC games has low standard, broken games get released all the time and devs think "its ok can fix it later with patch". The bad is consoles going towards that direction too :cry:

Actually, that "release now, patch later" attitude is present in the entire gaming industry this gen, and it's even present on console hardware itself, like the 360 RRoD issue, since the console has clearly been rushed into market without proper stress testing.

It has nothing to do with the PC, it has to do with the desire for quick revenue and profit among publishers...