Hi, I'm from Singapore, where MS doesn't rule. Sony and Nintendo does.

So what major Game Developers are in Singapore?supermechakirby

[QUOTE="pinkyfull"][QUOTE="cjnwo4life"]

You said all that as if everyone actually cares.

Play what you want and be done with it, otherwise you would be better off writing in length about major issues in your home vs if people will buy a ps3 over the 360.

cjnwo4life

could you plz edit this so that maybe youve only got 1 paragraph of the original post its a tad long...

You seem to have been able to read it. Otherwise skip it next time!

my point is other people dont like having to scroll for 2 minutes just to get the nextpost...

[QUOTE="weiliang_1988"][QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]

[QUOTE="Wil4hire"]Wow. Halobois are ignorant. I guess no one saying anything outside of the world of 360/HALO has no clue. Typical American's. Good luck w/global sales. Enjoy your 360, while the world gamers enjoy everything._koolgirl_

WTH is up with all this 'ignorant American' BS? 360 games appeal to Americans big deal, how many of you american bashers have even been to the US?

* Put both hands up *

I've been to america ! love it. Went LA and LV

LOL .. cool it man. I'm not bashing America, I love america for the carl's Jr burgers, as well as bringing basketball into my life. I ain't bashing nobody expect people who don't know where their country is on the map.

Erm I'm speaking up for Asians, because we kinda think alike and know what in general what Asians wan in terms for Gaming... so its interesting to see all these different opinions going on about SW between Americans among themselves and against themselves.

I don't know why, but I just have the need to say it. It your natively from Singapore, get a job as a translator :) Your first post was extremely long but well thought out, and a good perspective from another country (unless anyone else on here is from Singapore or another Asian country, you can't give a first hand account of how MS is viewed in said other countries)

Not only is your engish good, but your english slang/web speech is very good. What I mean is if you didn't say you were from Singapore, I would never assume you were from another country. :)

again with mass generalizations. If you are basing this off our idiot president I hope that yuo know that his approval rating is less than 50% (it might even be less than 40%)

What country are yuo from? I want to lump youin with some BS stereotype.

laughingman42

look at my profile and i doubt you'd be able to find any that is all...

[QUOTE="cjnwo4life"][QUOTE="pinkyfull"][QUOTE="cjnwo4life"]

You said all that as if everyone actually cares.

Play what you want and be done with it, otherwise you would be better off writing in length about major issues in your home vs if people will buy a ps3 over the 360.

pinkyfull

could you plz edit this so that maybe youve only got 1 paragraph of the original post its a tad long...

You seem to have been able to read it. Otherwise skip it next time!

my point is other people dont like having to scroll for 2 minutes just to get the nextpost...

AS since you missed the whole point of why I posted in the 1st place "long post about an unimportant issue"...

Also remember, I don't EVER need to do things just to appease "other people".

nice post...i am from malaysia btw. I also agreed with most of your points. In my country is Sony and nintendo dominating too. Asians just prefer the kind of games on ps3 and wii. joeychew

Damn ok, being in this thread just makes me feel stupid. If I was going to post on a foreign website, I would have to rely on something like "Google translater".

Anyways, if 360 sold well in the Asian countries, it would also have the games. Games like Gundam Musou (Dynasty Warriors Gundam), which was the top seller on PS3 in Japan IS on 360 in the US. Catch 22, Japanese developers don't mess with 360 in Japan because it does not sell, it doesn't sell in Japan because Japanese developers don't mess with it there.

[QUOTE="supermechakirby"]So what major Game Developers are in Singapore?taker42

if you wanna talk about how well a console is doing there

it doesnt really matter if you dont have any major game developers

sales = games

sales in specific regions = games developed from that specific region..

[QUOTE="laughingman42"]

again with mass generalizations. If you are basing this off our idiot president I hope that yuo know that his approval rating is less than 50% (it might even be less than 40%)

What country are yuo from? I want to lump youin with some BS stereotype.

pinkyfull

look at my profile and i doubt you'd be able to find any that is all...

damn, there arent any good streotypes about new zealand that I know of. I've actually heard irs a pretty cool place to live, but the point is thinking all americans think one way is like me saying everyone in japan knows karate.

This thread is pure bs, I'm from Jakarta, Indonesia and we do like our First person shooters and other so called "western games". Yes for the Americans out there, Indonesia is located in Asia since 20% of you guys can't even locate your own country on the map. Stop generalizing and saying that Asians like only RPGs... Typical singaporean logic.Click_Clock

Singapore vs Indonesia: FIGHT!

This thread is pure bs, I'm from Jakarta, Indonesia and we do like our First person shooters and other so called "western games". Yes for the Americans out there, Indonesia is located in Asia since 20% of you guys can't even locate your own country on the map. Stop generalizing and saying that Asians like only RPGs... Typical singaporean logic.Click_Clock

Asian on Asian war lol.

Never been to Indonesia. Then again, I never went to Sarawak, only the Malay Peninsula.

But yeah, I had a feeling South-East Asia was different from Japan and Korea. Partly because all my cousins absolutely love Counter-Strike and Battlefield.

I just don't think a game like Crysis will steal those other two FPSs crown.

Found your last bit hypocritical though.

[QUOTE="pinkyfull"][QUOTE="laughingman42"]

again with mass generalizations. If you are basing this off our idiot president I hope that yuo know that his approval rating is less than 50% (it might even be less than 40%)

What country are yuo from? I want to lump youin with some BS stereotype.

laughingman42

look at my profile and i doubt you'd be able to find any that is all...

damn, there arent any good streotypes about new zealand that I know of. I've actually heard irs a pretty cool place to live, but the point is thinking all americans think one way is like me saying everyone in japan knows karate.

Just for future reference,

Aussies like to say we screw sheep :lol:

[QUOTE="taker42"][QUOTE="supermechakirby"]So what major Game Developers are in Singapore?supermechakirby

if you wanna talk about how well a console is doing there

it doesnt really matter if you dont have any major game developers

sales = games

sales in specific regions = games developed from that specific region..

[QUOTE="Click_Clock"]This thread is pure bs, I'm from Jakarta, Indonesia and we do like our First person shooters and other so called "western games". Yes for the Americans out there, Indonesia is located in Asia since 20% of you guys can't even locate your own country on the map. Stop generalizing and saying that Asians like only RPGs... Typical singaporean logic.FrozenLiquid

Asian on Asian war lol.

Never been to Indonesia. Then again, I never went to Sarawak, only the Malay Peninsula.

But yeah, I had a feeling South-East Asia was different from Japan and Korea. Partly because all my cousins absolutely love Counter-Strike and Battlefield.

I just don't think a game like Crysis will steal those other two FPSs crown.

Found your last bit hypocritical though.

[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="pinkyfull"][QUOTE="laughingman42"]

again with mass generalizations. If you are basing this off our idiot president I hope that yuo know that his approval rating is less than 50% (it might even be less than 40%)

What country are yuo from? I want to lump youin with some BS stereotype.

FrozenLiquid

look at my profile and i doubt you'd be able to find any that is all...

damn, there arent any good streotypes about new zealand that I know of. I've actually heard irs a pretty cool place to live, but the point is thinking all americans think one way is like me saying everyone in japan knows karate.

Just for future reference,

Aussies like to say we screw sheep :lol:

LMAO!!! where the hell did that come from?

I don't know why, but I just have the need to say it. It your natively from Singapore, get a job as a translator :) Your first post was extremely long but well thought out, and a good perspective from another country (unless anyone else on here is from Singapore or another Asian country, you can't give a first hand account of how MS is viewed in said other countries)

Not only is your engish good, but your english slang/web speech is very good. What I mean is if you didn't say you were from Singapore, I would never assume you were from another country. :)

_koolgirl_

O.. thank you. I'm only 19. I still have a long way to go before I do anything as a profession.

Hey click_clock, I didn't say Asians like only J-RPG. I'm playing bioshock. My point on Asians would be that we'll play as long as it suits us. Like Gundam. Would you purhcase a 360 because it plays better on it? Or would you get a PS3 because you can play everything else on it.

Microsoft did reach out to Asia, yes we have bioshock, we have gears, we have 360, but its not ENOUGH to dominiate.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

again with Just for future reference,

Aussies like to say we screw sheep :lol:

laughingman42

LMAO!!! where the hell did that come from?

I though that was cows?

There're more cows than there're more people in new zealand isn't it .. . not sheep.

Indeed CounterStrike is very popular here, also WarCraft 3 DOTA.Click_Clock

Omg DOTA....

Yeah I can agree to that one

-looks at all the SE Asians at the net cafes here-

How about WoW?

Well as an American I totally agree with you unlike some of these people on here who give the rest of us Americans a bad name.

LMAO!!! where the hell did that come from?

laughingman42

We have 4 million people in New Zealand.

There are 45 million sheep here.

Ask an Aussie how they came up with that remark lol.

As much as we try refute the argument though, there's always some loser who spoils it for us...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10439433

Well as an American I totally agree with you unlike some of these people on here who give the rest of us Americans bad names.

sakura_Ex

I saw the other thread about the from NY. the copycat thread. Impressive. Its my first forum started thread to received such compliment... what can I say...

Imitation is the best form of compliment?

Well the guy in NY doesn't really get it. The entire thread was about MS not doing a good job over here. Asians preferring Sony and Nintendo over Microsoft and the reasons for it. Cultural differences, preferences ... etc.

Alright its quite hard explaining to such people ..

Well the guy in NY doesn't really get it. The entire thread was about MS not doing a good job over here. Asians preferring Sony and Nintendo over Microsoft and the reasons for it. Cultural differences, preferences ... etc

weiliang_1988

Pardon me, Microsoft isn't a race. Being a Cow, Sheep, Lemming isn't a race.

Since when did siding a game console purely due to gaming preference and historical difference within games been lamated as being racist?

You like your castle, I love my little village.

You enjoy your NFL, I play my Winning Eleven. Isn't it that simple?

Well if you did read my points, which I don't think you did, editing them as if they were yours. Games on the 360 are coming over to the PC. To me, a Singaporean, it is not worth having a 360 due to financial reasons, plus the fact that xbox live ain't that well here in Asia. Games-wise, many people here (in Asia) love *** games besides Western games.

We have more choices here. Thats why the 360 isn't thatappealing in Asia.

[QUOTE="weiliang_1988"]

Hi, I'm from Singapore. Been at Gamespot here for around two years. Great site IMO, love the reviews, the news, the only game-site only that does video-reviews that well, I suppose. ( i really enjoy the video reviews) Forgive me for not being a subscriber, at 19 years of age, its hard to convince my parents to lend me their credit cards to pay for my gaming needs.

A little history

I'd like to share a bit about gaming in my county, Singapore. Singapore is located in Asia, south-east. I don't know if many Americans know where Singapore is (due to the shocking fact that 20% of Americans do not know where America is on the map, which i find disturbing...) But we're a little country with a small population of 4million and a land size 1/6000 that of the US.

Alright, lets get back to gaming.Upon reading the title of the thread, probably you would have get the impression that the 360 doesn't dominate here, while the PS3 & Wii does. To an extent, thats true. Not only does the 360 not sell here, the original xbox didn't quite make an impact as well. The Sony playstations are selling, PSPs too. While the DS are being sold of the shelves like hotcakes here. The Wii doesn't though, for price reasons.

Unlike America, Video games were widely introduce during the 1990-2000 period, where Singapore was getting towards the "developed country" stage, like US, like UK. The most popular console here then was the playstation. Well this was helped that pirated games were all over the country, which did the same for the playstation 2. But that problem is being tackled now as the country is doingquite abit to stop pirating.

This is similar in other Asia countries too, piracy has help the playstation. People do not mind spending a few hundred on a console which games are selling at 5 US dollars in the black market. Same goes for the playstation 2.

In some ways, this has all turned Asians into Cows. Yep.

The games that Asians play

I'm sure many Game-spotters have written articles about JRPG vs Western RPG. Well the fact is Asians love their culture, they love their traditions. So do I. With all due respect, Oblivon is a great game. But it does not sell here in Asia, games like Final Fantasy will sell, games like monster hunter freedom 2 havesold. Well, its like Asians would prefer casting spells, summoning Bahamut than playing a knight, defending a castle. etc. Another example, Asians would play Bleach: Heat the soul ~ over Marvel vs Capcom. They would prefer naruto. They would prefer DJ max portable over other DJ games that the US offer.

Animae (*** cartoons) have played quite a big role in influencing Asians.

Most Asians grow up without video games, thats why Pokemon can be so addictive, thats why Bleach amazes us (anyway do check out Bleach will ya? It has better graphics than Tekken even, i promise).

Thats why games, despite receiving low scores from the US games industry (e.g. monsterhunterfreedom 1), will continue to be produce and distributed to Asian countries.

Asia has 2.4 billion people. Thats a very large market you're looking at.

Why the DS sells, the psp too!

Pokemon, does it ring a bell?

The PSP has always been a first choice portable gaming console for all Asians. Games like Naruto, Monster Hunter, FinalFantasy 1 & 2 and above listed are games which have and will continue to draw Asians to the PSP. Cause we're fans of it.

The DS on the other hand, sells due to its simplicity. There's no software update, there isn't a need to add a memory stick, plug and play cartridges. Cooking mama sells doesn't it? Because girls here find the big eye lady in the game"cute". Nintendogs, it gives us Asians who missed out on the "Tamagochi"craze 10 years ago another chance at having an toy dog.

It maybe childish, but Asian girls love cute things, they love doramon, they love cooking mama. They love puzzles such as Brain age, which is not a game even. That sells the DS.

What about the 360!? Don't you guys play bioshock, gears?

The mentality of gamers here is that, we'll make do with what we have. We'll enjoy what we have. If we don't, its alright.

Americans are enjoying world of warcraft, but Asians are playing Maplestory, Gunbound, cause they're free. We're playing lots of PS2 games, still. Cause the PS2 is worthy buying because it has lots of games. The DS is worth buying? why? because it has pokemon. 1000 hours of gameplay in catchin' em' all. We like the PSP, cause it can do lots of stuff other than games.

Asians, Singaporeans in particular, are "kiasu". We want the best out of everything. We're more than happy with multiplatform games.

But the thing is, we can do without the 360.

Why? Gears & bioshock !?

Yes I know, the best selling games, gears and bioshock. Bioshock just reached 1.5million. Yes. But the thing is, they're available on the PC. As I've said, Asians want to get the best out of everything, we don't mind waiting too. The main point is ... the 360 cannot offer us a strong reason to love it.

You gotta love bioshock?

Yep, I do love it, playing it on the PC, bioshock PCis retailing at SGD 60 here. Which is around USD 38. Thats great for us folks here. Even through steam is USD 50. Its cheaper than the 360 version too.

What about gears? Common man', game of the year!

Its coming to the PC too, and I get extra levels! Yes, Asians don't mind waiting. It'll probably be better on the PC as well, in terms of graphics.

What about other games?! Exclusives? Forza?

Well, Halo, Halo2, Shadowrun is all on the PC? Oh yes, i get to play Lost planet too, in DIRECTX10 graphics. Ok, fine, 360 has forza, has saint's row. But being an Asian, I can do without those that I have a "compliment for". Its like ... I'm Asian. I have GTA, why should i play saint's row? I have GT in HD, why should I purchase Forza?

DAMMIT, you're missing out on LIVE!

Nope, sad to say, Microsoft did a very poor job on Xbox live here. You see, lets say I do get xbox live, who am I gonna play with? There ain't much people "live" on xbox live you see. There's very little life in Xbox live in the Asian market. Why? Because it requires $$$. I know it isn't much. But its not worth, because I won't be spending all my time playing. I've gotta work and feed the kids.

You're missing out on a lot of multiplayer fun, kid...

Well, there're lots of great single player games out there. Plus, even if i do get Live. Even if I do get connected into a server, I'll probably be flamed for my lagbecause i'm connected 5000miles awayfrom Singapore ... I won't be enjoying the multiplayer, so I won't mind missing it

Well, we have recorded stats there

Ok, I'll have to miss out on that

we have videos there too...

there's always game spot.. I don't mind viewing in low res.

we have demos there too.. you can't argue can you.

Well, i'll wait for the whole game to be out? I forgot to mention, there aren'tlarge franchiseshops purely delicated to selling games here, like gamestop in the US. But we do have many small individual retailers selling games. Therefore, its a personalise service. We get to try, run the game, to ensure they're no scratches on the disks, the game works perfectly fine, before we purchase it. We get to test run the consoles before we bring them home.

What makes you think the PS3 IS GONNA SELL THERE THEN?

Erm, because it has?

ok fine. I listed why 360 doesn't sell here, games going to the PC, xbox live not attractive, the price isn't too (its more expensive than the PS3 here), microsoft's service here isn't good (you get the 3 rings you've to send it to the US yourself), its just a dvd player.

why the ps3 then?

1) Exclusives that drives us Asians crazy. We love final fantasy,we love kojima and his MGS, we love Square's list of RPGs. We love GT (because it has more asian cars than forza does)

2) Multiplat games. With the ps3, i get to enjoy gta4, re5, dmc4 just like the 360 users does too.

3) blueray. I have a blueray machine!!! I don't have to buy an extra hDdvd. Unreal Tourny 3 for me will be on a single disk. Haven you heard? 360 gonna get less maps cause its a dvd, or else it'll be multidisk. I can't imagine getting off the crouch to change disk because I selected a map which is on disk 2 !!! Oh yes, I'll be using a keyboard and mouse to play unreal 3 .. I'll be having MODS too ...the 360 can't ..

Hey bro, you forgot one thing, multiplats are better on the 360 ... you know that..

Yes i do, "skate" got a better score on 360 than ps3. But the thing is ... I don't play skate. Asians won't buy a 360 because it has a better score than the ps3 in "skate". We win some, we lose some. Oblivon came to the ps3 with extras, 360 users will get their extras too, but thats after 6 months. Everyone has to wait, don't they.

ps3 has lots of flops

we don't care about flops ... flops are merely low scores given to games that we like. Monster hunter for PSP. gamespot gave it low, but its best selling in Japan? What does this say. We just enjoy our games.

NO HALO3 FOR YOU

Common' .. its produced by microsoft game studios, you're telling me it won't appear on the PC?

I'm Asian and i'll wait...

I mean, whats with halo? Its really the most hyped game in history. Halo 2 on the PC looked like the original halflife to me. The graphics were, that bad. I mean it really. I'm so angry, a waste of my money. But what was i expecting, True HD graphics? halo2 was on the original xbox, i forgot...

360 still owns ps3 in America

Yes yes i know. Worldwide sales 360 still pwns ps3. But as you know, Asians are waiters. We're waiting for mgs4, ff13, and other games. We're waiting for, maybe a sllim ps3? haha. But in the end, we'll get our ps3s, don't you worry.

Every month, you look at sales from America, Canada, Australia, Uk. But what about Asia. What about 2billion + people here in Asia. I know MS doesn't give a hoot. Sony does, nintendo does, thats why *** games are still popular among asians, thats why month after month top selling games in *** are allJap-co games.

Bleh, you play 360 games on your PC, you're a hermit too..

Everyone owns a PC, don't they.

You don't need a top end PC. Heard of those $1000 gaming PC?

Watever, you just sum up.

ok fine. As usual. I'll have to take out watever flame/ice/water shield that i have.

I'm just trying to voice out that in this part of the world, in Asia, Microsoft doesn't stand a chance with the 360.

We're all victims of the molopoly that Microsoft have with windows ...

But given the 360/ps3/wii , we have a choice, and us Asians would go for the ps3 with the reasons listed as above.

Yes, maybe you've gotton the idea that we don't mind waiting. Truth is, we do mind, just that to us its more important to get our money's worth. Thats why we wait.

Wii is selling well too, in america, europe .. but not here. Its extremely expensive here. about 350 US dollars ..

But for us Asians, the best bargain is the ps3, games, online wifi, free online gaming, blueray, .. we'll play 360 games on the pc..

comments and flames ... please.

i would like to emphasis this last points again

"I'm just trying to voice out that in this part of the world, in Asia, Microsoft doesn't stand a chance with the 360.

We're all victims of the molopoly that Microsoft have with windows ...

But given the 360/ps3/wii , we have a choice, and us Asians would go for the ps3 with the reasons listed as above."

cjnwo4life

You said all that as if everyone actually cares.

Play what you want and be done with it, otherwise you would be better off writing in length about major issues in your home vs if people will buy a ps3 over the 360.

And yet you replied,nice one..

[QUOTE="weiliang_1988"]

Well the guy in NY doesn't really get it. The entire thread was about MS not doing a good job over here. Asians preferring Sony and Nintendo over Microsoft and the reasons for it. Cultural differences, preferences ... etc

HermitCommando

So you're saying cultural differences and having a preference is linked to racism? That's absurd.

Pardon me, Microsoft isn't a race. Being a Cow, Sheep, Lemming isn't a race.

Since when did siding a game console purely due to gaming preference and historical difference within games been lamated as being racist?

You like your castle, I love my little village.

You enjoy your NFL, I play my Winning Eleven. Isn't it that simple?

Well if you did read my points, which I don't think you did, editing them as if they were yours. Games on the 360 are coming over to the PC. To me, a Singaporean, it is not worth having a 360 due to financial reasons, plus the fact that xbox live ain't that well here in Asia. Games-wise, many people here (in Asia) love *** games besides Western games.

We have more choices here. Thats why the 360 isn't thatappealing in Asia.

weiliang_1988

[QUOTE="laughingman42"]

LMAO!!! where the hell did that come from?

FrozenLiquid

We have 4 million people in New Zealand.

There are 45 million sheep here.

Ask an Aussie how they came up with that remark lol.

As much as we try refute the argument though, there's always some loser who spoils it for us...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10439433

[QUOTE="coakroach"][QUOTE="weiliang_1988"][QUOTE="coakroach"]

Asia doesnt like the 360

We get it

At least everyone will speak the same language when i play halo 3 on xbox live

mubarakibnumar

thats true. you don't want koreans blasting into the mic i suppose.

cause u give nothing to argue,

'i live in singapore bla bla bla'

i dont even know you posted this in SW

Kaosed

no .. my stand in the last para was that MS doesn't own the world, only america...

about the singapore thing, thats where I live, at least i know where my country is on the map.

Dont bag america, this is system wars not the UN

Nice one LOL

Oh lets be funny and try to say Americans are dumb. Well lets take a look at some of the dark issues of your country.

Human Trafficking & Modern-day Slavery

Republic of Singapore [ Country-by-Country Reports ]

The Republic of Singapore consists of the island of Singapore and about 60 small adjacent islands at the southern tip of the Malay Peninsula, SE Asia [map]. Singapore city, the capital, largest city, and chief port, is administratively coextensive with the republic and the distinction between the two has virtually disappeared. Singapore has a highly developed and successful free market economy, enjoys a remarkably open and corruption-free environment, stable prices, and a per capita GDP equal to that of the Big 4 West European countries. The economy depends heavily on exports, particularly in electronics and manufacturing.

Singapore is a destination country for women and girls trafficked for the purpose of commercial sexual exploitation. A small number of foreign domestic workers in Singapore face seriously abusive labor conditions that amount to involuntary servitude. Some women from Thailand, the Philippines, the People's Republic of China (P.R.C.), and Indonesia who travel to Singapore voluntarily for prostitution or other work are deceived or coerced into sexual servitude. Some Singaporean men travel to countries in the region for child sex tourism. - U.S. State Dept Trafficking in Persons Report, June, 2007 [full country report]

That's all fine and good. Trust me, I dont care about you, where you live, your quality of life, your culture etc. I was not going to bother responding until Iskimmed through your thread (didn't have to get very far)and I found quite a few remarks aimed at Americans, not Microsoft or 360. Nobody talks about my country in a condescending manner, unless you're also American. Bash MS, Xbox, 360, w/e... bash my country and my countrymen and expect some retaliation, Singaporean.HermitCommando

And dude, it's guys like you who are giving the Americans a bad name. Also, aren't you the one who started up that takeoff thread? And after saying things like that, you don't expect people to dislike America?

BTW on a different note, I am surprised how many Kiwi's that are posting all of a sudden :) NZ ftw

Well, I'm well aware the goin' on in my country.

Where among the threads did i mention that Americans were dumb.

Quote me word for word if i did. I haven edit anything in relation to accusing anyone. cause I didn't

If using the word "geographical illiterate" means "dumb" to you ..

Well I'll just take it as you're ... well, not dumb, but extra sensitive to words.

Good day, please don answer me .. i'm sure you will ..

[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]

Well as an American I totally agree with you unlike some of these people on here who give the rest of us Americans bad names.

HermitCommando

I know it's kinda hard to believe that some people in America actually havea mind of their own and don't believe everything that they are spoon fed by our goverment.

And dude, it's guys like you who are giving the Americans a bad name. Also, aren't you the one who started up that takeoff thread? And after saying things like that, you don't expect people to dislike America?

BTW on a different note, I am surprised how many Kiwi's that are posting all of a sudden :) NZ ftw

set101

Are you a kiwi too? :)

The best thing for you to do is stop talking about America, and start talking about games/gaming because I have the ammunition, and all I'm waiting for is for you to say something insulting. I don't want this because I'll be banned, most likely. You don't want this because you'll leave this thread feeling like less of a man.

So let's just leave it at that, ok?

**** everybody.Sir-Marwin105

and what was that for?

Oh lets be funny and try to say Americans are dumb. Well lets take a look at some of the dark issues of your country.

Human Trafficking & Modern-day Slavery

Republic of Singapore [ Country-by-Country Reports ]

The Republic of Singapore consists of the island of Singapore and about 60 small adjacent islands at the southern tip of the Malay Peninsula, SE Asia [map]. Singapore city, the capital, largest city, and chief port, is administratively coextensive with the republic and the distinction between the two has virtually disappeared. Singapore has a highly developed and successful free market economy, enjoys a remarkably open and corruption-free environment, stable prices, and a per capita GDP equal to that of the Big 4 West European countries. The economy depends heavily on exports, particularly in electronics and manufacturing.

Singapore is a destination country for women and girls trafficked for the purpose of commercial sexual exploitation. A small number of foreign domestic workers in Singapore face seriously abusive labor conditions that amount to involuntary servitude. Some women from Thailand, the Philippines, the People's Republic of China (P.R.C.), and Indonesia who travel to Singapore voluntarily for prostitution or other work are deceived or coerced into sexual servitude. Some Singaporean men travel to countries in the region for child sex tourism. - U.S. State Dept Trafficking in Persons Report, June, 2007 [full country report]

mfisher3323

Do i really need to quote America's doing with regards to Human Trafficking & Modern-day Slavery with reference to the site that you just provided? Sure thing, Singapore has its bad and dark side, 2 paragraph worth of it.I went back up to the main page of the site you gave, and went to America's, America's doings is 13 pages long, on microsoftword on a size 8 font...

Now the issue i brought up wasn't about Singapore vs the America, the US could just send a nuke and Singapore will be wiped out flat. We are that small i admit.

But that wasn't the issue i brought up. The main thing was that MS is leaving out Asia in its quest for world dominance... and the side note of what i mentioned was "geographical illiteracy", because I mentioned i was from Singapore and that there wasn't much a point mentioned where i was from if some Americans could not even locate where they live. I was careful with my words and i didn't highlighted all Americans. Quote me if I did, because i didn't.

Now, whatever I say, I know it wont be on use to stubborn ears. You guys will continue flaming me on my knowledge on America.

Go on, do so,

I'll continue my debate on system wars...

now back to the topic ... the 360 till now hasn't made an impact in Asia ....

[QUOTE="Click_Clock"]Indeed CounterStrike is very popular here, also WarCraft 3 DOTA.FrozenLiquid

Omg DOTA....

Yeah I can agree to that one

-looks at all the SE Asians at the net cafes here-

How about WoW?

Well, I'm well aware the goin' on in my country.

Where among the threads did i mention that Americans were dumb.

Quote me word for word if i did. I haven edit anything in relation to accusing anyone. cause I didn't

If using the word "geographical illiterate" means "dumb" to you ..

Well I'll just take it as you're ... well, not dumb, but extra sensitive to words.

Good day, please don answer me .. i'm sure you will ..

weiliang_1988

No I am not extra sensitive, isnt that what you wanted to get a rise out of people by posting a smart *** remark about Americans. I would much rather Americans to be "geographical illiterate" so you say then to have major sexual exploitation of children problems.

Human Trafficking & Modern-day Slavery

Republic of Singapore [ Country-by-Country Reports ]

The Republic of Singapore consists of the island of Singapore and about 60 small adjacent islands at the southern tip of the Malay Peninsula, SE Asia [map]. Singapore city, the capital, largest city, and chief port, is administratively coextensive with the republic and the distinction between the two has virtually disappeared. Singapore has a highly developed and successful free market economy, enjoys a remarkably open and corruption-free environment, stable prices, and a per capita GDP equal to that of the Big 4 West European countries. The economy depends heavily on exports, particularly in electronics and manufacturing.

Singapore is a destination country for women and girls trafficked for the purpose of commercial sexual exploitation. A small number of foreign domestic workers in Singapore face seriously abusive labor conditions that amount to involuntary servitude. Some women from Thailand, the Philippines, the People's Republic of China (P.R.C.), and Indonesia who travel to Singapore voluntarily for prostitution or other work are deceived or coerced into sexual servitude. Some Singaporean men travel to countries in the region for child sex tourism. - U.S. State Dept Trafficking in Persons Report, June, 2007 [full country report]

Well, I'm well aware the goin' on in my country.

Where among the threads did i mention that Americans were dumb.

Quote me word for word if i did. I haven edit anything in relation to accusing anyone. cause I didn't

If using the word "geographical illiterate" means "dumb" to you ..

Well I'll just take it as you're ... well, not dumb, but extra sensitive to words.

Good day, please don answer me .. i'm sure you will ..

weiliang_1988

Wow, you continually use the 'fact' about American's geographical illiteracy, and your trying to say that your not implying that they are in some shape or form, dumb? Obviosly anyone who can't find their own country on a map is not too bright, so you bringing up this false statistic is just another way of American bashing.

You can't help but target Americans, what the heck is your problem man? Did Americans kill your family or something? Sheesh get over it.

If you have a point to make, make the point but don't bring insults about other countries into it.

please don answer me .. i'm sure you will ..

weiliang_1988

I was right..

[QUOTE="weiliang_1988"]

please don answer me .. i'm sure you will ..

weiliang_1988

I was right..

Sorry, I can't help but point out ignorance.

Why didn't you want anyone to answer? Are you afraid to admit to your American bashing nonsense?

I find the ignorance of the majority of Americans amusing, but I don't hold it against them. Although I do find a lot of American tourists loud. Guess it's just part of their culture that we outsiders are not accustomed too.

An American friend of mine is one of the nicest and coolest cats I've ever met.

I just don't understand how weiliang was taking the whole thing to a personal level?

[QUOTE="mfisher3323"]Oh lets be funny and try to say Americans are dumb. Well lets take a look at some of the dark issues of your country.

Human Trafficking & Modern-day Slavery

Republic of Singapore [ Country-by-Country Reports ]

The Republic of Singapore consists of the island of Singapore and about 60 small adjacent islands at the southern tip of the Malay Peninsula, SE Asia [map]. Singapore city, the capital, largest city, and chief port, is administratively coextensive with the republic and the distinction between the two has virtually disappeared. Singapore has a highly developed and successful free market economy, enjoys a remarkably open and corruption-free environment, stable prices, and a per capita GDP equal to that of the Big 4 West European countries. The economy depends heavily on exports, particularly in electronics and manufacturing.

Singapore is a destination country for women and girls trafficked for the purpose of commercial sexual exploitation. A small number of foreign domestic workers in Singapore face seriously abusive labor conditions that amount to involuntary servitude. Some women from Thailand, the Philippines, the People's Republic of China (P.R.C.), and Indonesia who travel to Singapore voluntarily for prostitution or other work are deceived or coerced into sexual servitude. Some Singaporean men travel to countries in the region for child sex tourism. - U.S. State Dept Trafficking in Persons Report, June, 2007 [full country report]

weiliang_1988

Do i really need to quote America's doing with regards to Human Trafficking & Modern-day Slavery with reference to the site that you just provided? Sure thing, Singapore has its bad and dark side, 2 paragraph worth of it.I went back up to the main page of the site you gave, and went to America's, America's doings is 13 pages long, on microsoftword on a size 8 font...

Now the issue i brought up wasn't about Singapore vs the America, the US could just send a nuke and Singapore will be wiped out flat. We are that small i admit.

But that wasn't the issue i brought up. The main thing was that MS is leaving out Asia in its quest for world dominance... and the side note of what i mentioned was "geographical illiteracy", because I mentioned i was from Singapore and that there wasn't much a point mentioned where i was from if some Americans could not even locate where they live. I was careful with my words and i didn't highlighted all Americans. Quote me if I did, because i didn't.

Now, whatever I say, I know it wont be on use to stubborn ears. You guys will continue flaming me on my knowledge on America.

Go on, do so,

I'll continue my debate on system wars...

now back to the topic ... the 360 till now hasn't made an impact in Asia ....

And you dont mention that most of those 13 pages about the USA is what they are doing to stop Human Trafficking and it says that The U.S. Central Intelligence Agency estimates that 50,000 people are trafficked into or transited through the U.S.A. annually as sex slaves, domestics, garment, and agricultural slaves compared to over a million for your tiny country.

I find the ignorance of the majority of Americans amusing, but I don't hold it against them. Although I do find a lot of American tourists loud. Guess it's just part of their culture that we outsiders are not accustomed too.

An American friend of mine is one of the nicest and coolest cats I've ever met.

I just don't understand how weiliang was taking the whole thing to a personal level?

FrozenLiquid

Well, since you live in NZ you don't have to look too far to find people that strongly dislike America and it's citizens for illogical reasons. I really don't get it. I think it's quite natural for someone inside a particular country to be ignorant about other countries. People here seem to think that everyone in the US lives in ghettos and has to live with shootings on a day to day basis. :?

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

I find the ignorance of the majority of Americans amusing, but I don't hold it against them. Although I do find a lot of American tourists loud. Guess it's just part of their culture that we outsiders are not accustomed too.

An American friend of mine is one of the nicest and coolest cats I've ever met.

I just don't understand how weiliang was taking the whole thing to a personal level?

Kritical_Strike

Well, since you live in NZ you don't have to look too far to find people that strongly dislike America and it's citizens for illogical reasons. I really don't get it. I think it's quite natural for someone inside a particular country to be ignorant about other countries. People here seem to think that everyone in the US lives in ghettos and has to live with shootings on a day to day basis. :?

When you read that there are 70 million guns owners in the US and that there is 9 guns for every 10 people in the US, then you can understand why.