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[QUOTE="VACASCULIADAS"]
Damn people taking that day as joke..
FrozenLiquid
Hey we didn't see anything on the news about 9/11 this year.
WTF is up with that?
Maybe the media novelty has already worn off.
But yeah, I almost forgot about 9/11 today. In fact, I didn't even know it was the 11th lol.
Yes i forgot about it too. and so should most of the people, i emna ok you feel terribly sorry and miss who were lost, but it's uselss and it would anly fuel people with more anger and sadness
Yea, of course the IPods are Amercians. I am not saying that Amercia do not have Ipods and Creative MP3 players. :)
There is alot of asians love counterstrike, DOTA, a few love WoW, Maplestory, Audition Online, and other online games. Why? Because we do not have the same treatment as the amercians has. They have gaming ads, we don't. They have special events, we don't. Oh, there is 1 coming soon though, the Halo 3 event. But it is not as grand as the amercians though.
Forgot to say this earlier but asian gamers dont necessarily like asian games better. If you get into a cybercafe in asia you will see 100 or so gamers playing Warcraft's DOTA, CS and WoW . Some of them might be playing asian MMORPGs but its a small number. Halo has not been popular here but Halo 3 might change that because its on the much more successful X360. I feel its only Singapore where X360s don't sell well and LIVE might suck there but it doesn't anywhere else in Asia. I just saw a guy playing his x360 in a mall with LIVE on playing Forza with other people around the world and it didn't lag. There's a x360 community near where I live and they're quite an active bunch and this is proof that x360 might be finally apealling to Asian gamers. But its also due to the fact that pirated blu-rays are not even on the market making PS3s. not worthy of its price tag. But out of all of them, Wii is selling the best here in Asia because its cheap. exiledsnake
What? Bring his 360 into a shopping mall????? The wii is around the same price as the 360 in Singapore though.
I'm from asia, Philippines. All my friend have either 360's or Wiis, mostly Wiis. Some of them were waiting for good games for the PS3s before they buy. But after all the waiting, they bought Wiis.
Some ofmy friendswho didn't buy their 360s from the US bought it in Singapore. ;)
[QUOTE="exiledsnake"]Forgot to say this earlier but asian gamers dont necessarily like asian games better. If you get into a cybercafe in asia you will see 100 or so gamers playing Warcraft's DOTA, CS and WoW . Some of them might be playing asian MMORPGs but its a small number. Halo has not been popular here but Halo 3 might change that because its on the much more successful X360. I feel its only Singapore where X360s don't sell well and LIVE might suck there but it doesn't anywhere else in Asia. I just saw a guy playing his x360 in a mall with LIVE on playing Forza with other people around the world and it didn't lag. There's a x360 community near where I live and they're quite an active bunch and this is proof that x360 might be finally apealling to Asian gamers. But its also due to the fact that pirated blu-rays are not even on the market making PS3s. not worthy of its price tag. But out of all of them, Wii is selling the best here in Asia because its cheap. god_of_shawn
What? Bring his 360 into a shopping mall????? The wii is around the same price as the 360 in Singapore though.
Lol, he owns a game shop in the mall. He often promotes the x360 by playing in front of his shop while on LIVE. And Malaysia also has Wii priced the same as x360, i don't know why though.
well .. no one has posted anything solid.
The only solid post would be the lair's floppage.
Lair plays horrible, I do admit
Others are all ... posts by people who have nothing to argue.
Isn't that the truth?
weiliang_1988
nobody argues cause ur whole post had the word asia or some form of it about 4758345436583745 times....we f**** get it, ur asian....and u dont like the 360....so just stfu and blog next time
Nice racist thread,why u have to bring up ''americans arent intelligent'' do u have any proof about this?VACASCULIADAS
lemmings?
[QUOTE="VACASCULIADAS"][QUOTE="OJT"][QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"][QUOTE="OJT"]Like i'm gonna read all that.OJT
I'll sum it up the whole thing for you:
MS doesn't appeal to Asian gamers in ANY WAY. And M$ apparently sucks there too.
And Americans lack intelligence.
10x :D yes americans are generally stupid :/ but i hate to generalize, that's why this should be made a fact :D And in a way or another you have to use MS, unles you dont care about compatibility on Pc'slol the man who generalizes an entire culture is calling people stupid...the irony
[QUOTE="VACASCULIADAS"]Nice racist thread,why u have to bring up ''americans arent intelligent'' do u have any proof about this?proof11102
lemmings?
[QUOTE="VACASCULIADAS"][QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]You'll hear it in:
The United Kingdom
New Zealand
Australia
France (not outright. But more about culture)
I guess some of South East Asia as this Singporean has pointed out
Canada? But you guys have a rivalry anyway.
Funny thing is, all the young people want to go to America :P
CreepyBacon
Heh, that's the funny thing, somehow they manage to hate America and critizise it all the time, and at the same time emulate it's music and culture. How many Gangstas do you see walking around Grey Lynn and on Queens Street? That's pure American influence there :wink:
What culture? Getting drunk and going to a football game? The idea that you're "free" and the rest of the world is somehow not? Seriously, what culture?
The impression i get of America is you're all a bunch of loud mouths, thinking you rule the world and completly ignorant of any country outside of your own. And for the most part that's true. Sure theres some of you that are fine but the mass majority well, i can't say what they are without getting myself in trouble but lets just say there not to bright.
Anyways:
I stopped reading the original post when i realized it was all his opinion and none of it was actual fact or real reasoning, just bashing about pc ports or some rubbish.
May i ask what country ur from so i can use stereotypes to make assumptions about what i will think is ur s*** bag of a country, just so i can be cool for hating ur country just as ur so HIP for hating ours blindly?
Cause right now ur the only loud mouth thinking u know something about someones culture by stereotyping....so *gasp* according to ur assumptions...YOUR AN AMERICAN!
[QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="VACASCULIADAS"]Nice racist thread,why u have to bring up ''americans arent intelligent'' do u have any proof about this?VACASCULIADAS
lemmings?
Aren't you the one who doesn't know the diffrence between geology and geographics?
This thread is horrible, especially on this day 6 years ago, 3000 people ( many from all over the world ) were murdered by Anti American radicals for doing nothing more then showing up for work that day !!
I wish I could tell those who bad mouth this great country; next time you're country needs help from natural or man made disasters, were staying out of it just like you want us to.
Think about that as you witness the rise of the former USSR and China. Two countries that again someday may pose a threat to freedom all around the world; for me and the way I'm hearing and seeing people beat up on the U.S.; I hope we as a country turn our back for once and let all the other nations who we have helped in the past with our blood and gold who now find it in vogue to bash the U.S.;become slave states to the other not so nice but very powerful totalitarian governments they now seen fit to align themselves with.
If I could ( sadly I must say ) I would bring all our resources home , line our own borders with our troops and leave the rest of the world to fend for themselves.
Soon this just may happen if all this Anti American propaganda becomes increasingly the accepted and celebrated thing to do.
The American people ( I must say some of the brightest minds on earth ) are going to start to demand respect for our country from those countries around the world that depend on our good nature and generosity.
The people of these United States of America will not stand for much more of this betrayal - you can bank on it !
The U.S. is a melting pot of peoples and cultures from all over the world which we as a nation are proud of.
Stop the madness - please.
This post only applies to those doing the bashing - in other words; if the shoe fits, wear it!
Oh by the way - the 360 is the fist system to own this gen. no ifs ands or butts ! :)
IMHO
This thread is horrible, especially on this day 6 years ago, 3000 people ( many from all over the world ) were murdered by Anti American radicals for doing nothing more then showing up for work that day !!
I wish I could tell those who bad mouth this great country; next time you're country needs help from natural or man made disasters, were staying out of it just like you want us to.
Think about that as you witness the rise of the former USSR and China. Two countries that again someday may pose a threat to freedom all around the world; for me and the way I'm hearing and seeing people beat up on the U.S.; I hope we as a country turn our back for once and let all the other nations who we have helped in the past with our blood and gold who now find it in vogue to bash the U.S.;become slave states to the other not so nice but very powerful totalitarian governments they now seen fit to align themselves with.
If I could ( sadly I must say ) I would bring all our resources home , line our own borders with our troops and leave the rest of the world to fend for themselves.
Soon this just may happen if all this Anti American propaganda becomes increasingly the accepted and celebrated thing to do.
The American people ( I must say some of the brightest minds on earth ) are going to start to demand respect for our country from those countries around the world that depend on our good nature and generosity.
The people of these United States of America will not stand for much more of this betrayal - you can bank on it !
The U.S. is a melting pot of peoples and cultures from all over the world which we as a nation are proud of.
Stop the madness - please.
This post only applies to those doing the bashing - in other words; if the shoe fits, wear it!
Oh by the way - the 360 is the fist system to own this gen. no ifs ands or butts ! :)
IMHO
SecretPolice
If only everything America did was for the good of the world.
Heck, if only the good America did was really for the good of the world at not really for the rich and powerful.
And yes, I am a U.S. citizen.
And yes, the 360 is the first system to own this gen (we do agree on that much).
Meanwhile, back at the Halls of Justice...........nobody cares.
Wii is selling well too, in america, europe .. but not here. Its extremely expensive here. about 350 US dollars ..
weiliang_1988
Japan anyone?
Hi Weiliang. I'm Malaysian, which as you know is located right next to Singapore. All I have to say is you don't know what you're talking about so stop speaking for the rest of us Asians.
The reason why the Xbox 360 isn't because it's Microsoft, or American, or because we only love JRPGs (and I do, but that's besides the point). Game consoles in general don't receive any form of marketing here at all here except in magazines and in an obscure segment or page in newspapers. We don't get commercials for games or consoles, which just shows we're not a big market to begin with. That's why local pirates get away with importing consoles and charging them at high prices. Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo has done absolutely nothing in terms of marketing their consoles so most of us in this region are unaware of their products. The only time we'll see anything gaming related is when we take our walks in the local malls and shopping complexes, and they'll usually sell what's popular. That's why the PS1 and PS2 sells reasonably well, usually being the first console you'll lay eyes on being displayed as well as because pirated games for them are available. Also there's a huge lack of stores which sell original games and consoles anyway because in our currencies, it's just too expensive for anyone to afford.
The Xbox had almost nil presence here when it was out and so the same could be said of the 360. As I said, none of the 3 companies have advertised or made us aware of their products. Right now the PS3 is hella expensive and I don't see people lining up to buy it, but it's the only console with a moniker everyone's familiar with (Playstaion). The pirates are just adding a premium on top of the base price. We have no choice but to wait for it. It's not that we like waiting but it's the only thing we can do. Gameboy has always been popular as well. Around the time the DS came out, I witnessed a few people coming in to stores asking "What's the price of the new Gameboy?". Again it shows how little we know of their presence.
Being that you live in Singapore, whose population is only a small fraction of Malaysia's, Thailand's, Australia's, and probably around 1% of Indonesia's, you have no right to be telling Americans what Asians like doing and why American products like the 360 fails here. It has all to do with marketing, and nothing to do with it being an Asian/American problem. Console sales in Singapore probably only add up to a couple of thousands anyways so your market is actually pretty negligible in the big picture. I'm surprised Microsoft held a launch party there but they're not likely to follow it up in any case. There, I'm done.
PS. "Kiasu" doesn't mean you like the best stuff. It means "scared to lose". Malaysians like to say Singaporeans "kiasu" and "kiasi" (scared of dying) and all sorts of names. It's a stereotype I suppose but whatever. You get what I'm saying.
[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]This thread is horrible, especially on this day 6 years ago, 3000 people ( many from all over the world ) were murdered by Anti American radicals for doing nothing more then showing up for work that day !!
I wish I could tell those who bad mouth this great country; next time you're country needs help from natural or man made disasters, were staying out of it just like you want us to.
Think about that as you witness the rise of the former USSR and China. Two countries that again someday may pose a threat to freedom all around the world; for me and the way I'm hearing and seeing people beat up on the U.S.; I hope we as a country turn our back for once and let all the other nations who we have helped in the past with our blood and gold who now find it in vogue to bash the U.S.;become slave states to the other not so nice but very powerful totalitarian governments they now seen fit to align themselves with.
If I could ( sadly I must say ) I would bring all our resources home , line our own borders with our troops and leave the rest of the world to fend for themselves.
Soon this just may happen if all this Anti American propaganda becomes increasingly the accepted and celebrated thing to do.
The American people ( I must say some of the brightest minds on earth ) are going to start to demand respect for our country from those countries around the world that depend on our good nature and generosity.
The people of these United States of America will not stand for much more of this betrayal - you can bank on it !
The U.S. is a melting pot of peoples and cultures from all over the world which we as a nation are proud of.
Stop the madness - please.
This post only applies to those doing the bashing - in other words; if the shoe fits, wear it!
Oh by the way - the 360 is the fist system to own this gen. no ifs ands or butts ! :)
IMHO
TBoogy
If only everything America did was for the good of the world.
Heck, if only the good America did was really for the good of the world at not really for the rich and powerful.
And yes, I am a U.S. citizen.
And yes, the 360 is the first system to own this gen (we do agree on that much).
And its people like you who just needs to leave this great country if you think everything it does is wrong. See the problem with today isthe media is always so quick to show all the bad things and negative things in this country and they never show the good and positive things. And you my friend are just a very blind person, blinded by the media, hate or watever it is.
[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]This thread is horrible, especially on this day 6 years ago, 3000 people ( many from all over the world ) were murdered by Anti American radicals for doing nothing more then showing up for work that day !!
I wish I could tell those who bad mouth this great country; next time you're country needs help from natural or man made disasters, were staying out of it just like you want us to.
Think about that as you witness the rise of the former USSR and China. Two countries that again someday may pose a threat to freedom all around the world; for me and the way I'm hearing and seeing people beat up on the U.S.; I hope we as a country turn our back for once and let all the other nations who we have helped in the past with our blood and gold who now find it in vogue to bash the U.S.;become slave states to the other not so nice but very powerful totalitarian governments they now seen fit to align themselves with.
If I could ( sadly I must say ) I would bring all our resources home , line our own borders with our troops and leave the rest of the world to fend for themselves.
Soon this just may happen if all this Anti American propaganda becomes increasingly the accepted and celebrated thing to do.
The American people ( I must say some of the brightest minds on earth ) are going to start to demand respect for our country from those countries around the world that depend on our good nature and generosity.
The people of these United States of America will not stand for much more of this betrayal - you can bank on it !
The U.S. is a melting pot of peoples and cultures from all over the world which we as a nation are proud of.
Stop the madness - please.
This post only applies to those doing the bashing - in other words; if the shoe fits, wear it!
Oh by the way - the 360 is the fist system to own this gen. no ifs ands or butts ! :)
IMHO
TBoogy
If only everything America did was for the good of the world.
Heck, if only the good America did was really for the good of the world at not really for the rich and powerful.
And yes, I am a U.S. citizen.
And yes, the 360 is the first system to own this gen (we do agree on that much).
Someone needs to take a history class
[QUOTE="TBoogy"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]This thread is horrible, especially on this day 6 years ago, 3000 people ( many from all over the world ) were murdered by Anti American radicals for doing nothing more then showing up for work that day !!
I wish I could tell those who bad mouth this great country; next time you're country needs help from natural or man made disasters, were staying out of it just like you want us to.
Think about that as you witness the rise of the former USSR and China. Two countries that again someday may pose a threat to freedom all around the world; for me and the way I'm hearing and seeing people beat up on the U.S.; I hope we as a country turn our back for once and let all the other nations who we have helped in the past with our blood and gold who now find it in vogue to bash the U.S.;become slave states to the other not so nice but very powerful totalitarian governments they now seen fit to align themselves with.
If I could ( sadly I must say ) I would bring all our resources home , line our own borders with our troops and leave the rest of the world to fend for themselves.
Soon this just may happen if all this Anti American propaganda becomes increasingly the accepted and celebrated thing to do.
The American people ( I must say some of the brightest minds on earth ) are going to start to demand respect for our country from those countries around the world that depend on our good nature and generosity.
The people of these United States of America will not stand for much more of this betrayal - you can bank on it !
The U.S. is a melting pot of peoples and cultures from all over the world which we as a nation are proud of.
Stop the madness - please.
This post only applies to those doing the bashing - in other words; if the shoe fits, wear it!
Oh by the way - the 360 is the fist system to own this gen. no ifs ands or butts ! :)
IMHO
ApocalypseXIVV
If only everything America did was for the good of the world.
Heck, if only the good America did was really for the good of the world at not really for the rich and powerful.
And yes, I am a U.S. citizen.
And yes, the 360 is the first system to own this gen (we do agree on that much).
Someone needs to take a history class
i think that's the same kid who can't find the U.S. on a map.
This ******* thread has NOTHING to do with video games. NOTHING to do with systems wars. Thank the racist, xenophobic, stereotypical asian close-minded, fanatic - for turning this into a race-war/anti-US propaganda thread.
This **** needs a ******* lock.
Fewpoints.
1. The 20% of americans can't find iton the map thing was bogus. CNN already debunked that. Most educated people in this country all know of Singapore as well. Especially after that caining incident years ago.
2. If you're stating that Asians don't want XBL because they can't afford it and would rather feed the kids, then why would they spend 600$ on a gaming console in general? Wouldn't they just get a wii then, since it is cheaper and offers a better variety of games? If you want to use the PC as a reason - then the only console you should really get would be the wii.
3. People here are open minded. That's why BOTH Western RPGS and JRPGS sell well. We certainly like thingsabout our history/culture/imaginations as well - knights and dragons and magic, etc. but we are also welcoming of other cultures and enjoy the art style and story telling of many jrpgs. Try experiencing other cultures sometimes - otherwise you're just missing out.
4. If you want to take the tact that MS is an evil corporation - certainly do so. But keep in mind that Sony and even Nintendo aren't in the business soley for your own good. They are all based on a similar corporate structure which involves maximizing profits, minimizing costs, and does not put the consumer first. Almost all businesses do that - for better or worse.
[QUOTE="TBoogy"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]This thread is horrible, especially on this day 6 years ago, 3000 people ( many from all over the world ) were murdered by Anti American radicals for doing nothing more then showing up for work that day !!
I wish I could tell those who bad mouth this great country; next time you're country needs help from natural or man made disasters, were staying out of it just like you want us to.
Think about that as you witness the rise of the former USSR and China. Two countries that again someday may pose a threat to freedom all around the world; for me and the way I'm hearing and seeing people beat up on the U.S.; I hope we as a country turn our back for once and let all the other nations who we have helped in the past with our blood and gold who now find it in vogue to bash the U.S.;become slave states to the other not so nice but very powerful totalitarian governments they now seen fit to align themselves with.
If I could ( sadly I must say ) I would bring all our resources home , line our own borders with our troops and leave the rest of the world to fend for themselves.
Soon this just may happen if all this Anti American propaganda becomes increasingly the accepted and celebrated thing to do.
The American people ( I must say some of the brightest minds on earth ) are going to start to demand respect for our country from those countries around the world that depend on our good nature and generosity.
The people of these United States of America will not stand for much more of this betrayal - you can bank on it !
The U.S. is a melting pot of peoples and cultures from all over the world which we as a nation are proud of.
Stop the madness - please.
This post only applies to those doing the bashing - in other words; if the shoe fits, wear it!
Oh by the way - the 360 is the fist system to own this gen. no ifs ands or butts ! :)
IMHO
ApocalypseXIVV
If only everything America did was for the good of the world.
Heck, if only the good America did was really for the good of the world at not really for the rich and powerful.
And yes, I am a U.S. citizen.
And yes, the 360 is the first system to own this gen (we do agree on that much).
Someone needs to take a history class
Someone needs to watch "Link" TV, lol. No country through history is great, none. Everybody has faults, EVERY COUNTRY!!
I actually read all of that.
Also, it is true. However:
at 19 years of age, its hard to convince my parents to lend me their credit cards to pay for my gaming needsweiliang_1988
Then you go on to say how you'll be playing Gears and BioShock and other 360 games on the PC. Sure you probably have the money in cash, but unless your spending $1000 at the store to purchase an overpriced computer..your not getting the most out if it. Isn't that what kiasu want?
[QUOTE="ApocalypseXIVV"][QUOTE="TBoogy"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]This thread is horrible, especially on this day 6 years ago, 3000 people ( many from all over the world ) were murdered by Anti American radicals for doing nothing more then showing up for work that day !!
I wish I could tell those who bad mouth this great country; next time you're country needs help from natural or man made disasters, were staying out of it just like you want us to.
Think about that as you witness the rise of the former USSR and China. Two countries that again someday may pose a threat to freedom all around the world; for me and the way I'm hearing and seeing people beat up on the U.S.; I hope we as a country turn our back for once and let all the other nations who we have helped in the past with our blood and gold who now find it in vogue to bash the U.S.;become slave states to the other not so nice but very powerful totalitarian governments they now seen fit to align themselves with.
If I could ( sadly I must say ) I would bring all our resources home , line our own borders with our troops and leave the rest of the world to fend for themselves.
Soon this just may happen if all this Anti American propaganda becomes increasingly the accepted and celebrated thing to do.
The American people ( I must say some of the brightest minds on earth ) are going to start to demand respect for our country from those countries around the world that depend on our good nature and generosity.
The people of these United States of America will not stand for much more of this betrayal - you can bank on it !
The U.S. is a melting pot of peoples and cultures from all over the world which we as a nation are proud of.
Stop the madness - please.
This post only applies to those doing the bashing - in other words; if the shoe fits, wear it!
Oh by the way - the 360 is the fist system to own this gen. no ifs ands or butts ! :)
IMHO
Gamersince81
If only everything America did was for the good of the world.
Heck, if only the good America did was really for the good of the world at not really for the rich and powerful.
And yes, I am a U.S. citizen.
And yes, the 360 is the first system to own this gen (we do agree on that much).
Someone needs to take a history class
Someone needs to watch "Link" TV, lol. No country through history is great, none. Everybody has faults, EVERY COUNTRY!!
im not sure who u thought i was referring to, but i was talking to the moron who thought the US does nothing good, and everythng it does for the Rich and powerful...that statement was ignorant and false, the US gives more to poverty-stricken lands than any other nation...sorry if u thought i was talking to the OP
Fewpoints.
1. The 20% of americans can't find iton the map thing was bogus. CNN already debunked that. Most educated people in this country all know of Singapore as well. Especially after that caining incident years ago.
2. If you're stating that Asians don't want XBL because they can't afford it and would rather feed the kids, then why would they spend 600$ on a gaming console in general? Wouldn't they just get a wii then, since it is cheaper and offers a better variety of games? If you want to use the PC as a reason - then the only console you should really get would be the wii.
3. People here are open minded. That's why BOTH Western RPGS and JRPGS sell well. We certainly like thingsabout our history/culture/imaginations as well - knights and dragons and magic, etc. but we are also welcoming of other cultures and enjoy the art style and story telling of many jrpgs. Try experiencing other cultures sometimes - otherwise you're just missing out.
4. If you want to take the tact that MS is an evil corporation - certainly do so. But keep in mind that Sony and even Nintendo aren't in the business soley for your own good. They are all based on a similar corporate structure which involves maximizing profits, minimizing costs, and does not put the consumer first. Almost all businesses do that - for better or worse.
sonicare
QFT, all u people who think that MS is evil are retarded, Bill Gates left controlling the company so he could head his charity foundation more...and if you think Sony and Nintendo is any better than i got something i wanna sell you, cause ull buy anything
[QUOTE="TBoogy"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]This thread is horrible, especially on this day 6 years ago, 3000 people ( many from all over the world ) were murdered by Anti American radicals for doing nothing more then showing up for work that day !!
I wish I could tell those who bad mouth this great country; next time you're country needs help from natural or man made disasters, were staying out of it just like you want us to.
Think about that as you witness the rise of the former USSR and China. Two countries that again someday may pose a threat to freedom all around the world; for me and the way I'm hearing and seeing people beat up on the U.S.; I hope we as a country turn our back for once and let all the other nations who we have helped in the past with our blood and gold who now find it in vogue to bash the U.S.;become slave states to the other not so nice but very powerful totalitarian governments they now seen fit to align themselves with.
If I could ( sadly I must say ) I would bring all our resources home , line our own borders with our troops and leave the rest of the world to fend for themselves.
Soon this just may happen if all this Anti American propaganda becomes increasingly the accepted and celebrated thing to do.
The American people ( I must say some of the brightest minds on earth ) are going to start to demand respect for our country from those countries around the world that depend on our good nature and generosity.
The people of these United States of America will not stand for much more of this betrayal - you can bank on it !
The U.S. is a melting pot of peoples and cultures from all over the world which we as a nation are proud of.
Stop the madness - please.
This post only applies to those doing the bashing - in other words; if the shoe fits, wear it!
Oh by the way - the 360 is the fist system to own this gen. no ifs ands or butts ! :)
IMHO
mfisher3323
If only everything America did was for the good of the world.
Heck, if only the good America did was really for the good of the world at not really for the rich and powerful.
And yes, I am a U.S. citizen.
And yes, the 360 is the first system to own this gen (we do agree on that much).
And its people like you who just needs to leave this great country if you think everything it does is wrong. See the problem with today isthe media is always so quick to show all the bad things and negative things in this country and they never show the good and positive things. And you my friend are just a very blind person, blinded by the media, hate or watever it is.
Wow, I come back to see my comment got a few people riled up. Good!
I will respond to you, because most comments directed towards me were one-line jabs not worthy of a response.
One, I did not say, nor do I feel, that "everything" this country does is wrong. I think most of it's citizens are good people, although a lot live in a shell and see the world (and their country's actions) through rose colored glasses. As for the media, unfortunately I think they show more good than bad. People wouldn't be able to handle knowing all the bad things that are really going on. See the "Jena 6" story (which just got press but has been going on for over a year) as an example of that. Luckily, I don't trust the media either. I search for truth, and get it directly from it's source as much as possible. So, in conlusion, I am not blinded by the media and I do not hate people (just the system that we ALL are a victom of).
If I were a comic book character, it would be Huey Freeman from The Boondocks.
(and I do plan to leave this country before I die, for what it's worth.)
hate! hate! hate! hate!
That's the only thing you get when you make a thread with so much generalization.
why dont you show us a slideshow and tell us more about your family's rich and interesting history? i dont feel like i know enough about you.Hi, I'm from Singapore. Been at Gamespot here for around two years. Great site IMO, love the reviews, the news, the only game-site only that does video-reviews that well, I suppose. ( i really enjoy the video reviews) Forgive me for not being a subscriber, at 19 years of age, its hard to convince my parents to lend me their credit cards to pay for my gaming needs.
A little history
I'd like to share a bit about gaming in my county, Singapore. Singapore is located in Asia, south-east. I don't know if many Americans know where Singapore is (due to the shocking fact that 20% of Americans do not know where America is on the map, which i find disturbing...) But we're a little country with a small population of 4million and a land size 1/6000 that of the US.
Alright, lets get back to gaming.Upon reading the title of the thread, probably you would have get the impression that the 360 doesn't dominate here, while the PS3 & Wii does. To an extent, thats true. Not only does the 360 not sell here, the original xbox didn't quite make an impact as well. The Sony playstations are selling, PSPs too. While the DS are being sold of the shelves like hotcakes here. The Wii doesn't though, for price reasons.
Unlike America, Video games were widely introduce during the 1990-2000 period, where Singapore was getting towards the "developed country" stage, like US, like UK. The most popular console here then was the playstation. Well this was helped that pirated games were all over the country, which did the same for the playstation 2. But that problem is being tackled now as the country is doingquite abit to stop pirating.
This is similar in other Asia countries too, piracy has help the playstation. People do not mind spending a few hundred on a console which games are selling at 5 US dollars in the black market. Same goes for the playstation 2.
In some ways, this has all turned Asians into Cows. Yep.
The games that Asians play
I'm sure many Game-spotters have written articles about JRPG vs Western RPG. Well the fact is Asians love their culture, they love their traditions. So do I. With all due respect, Oblivon is a great game. But it does not sell here in Asia, games like Final Fantasy will sell, games like monster hunter freedom 2 havesold. Well, its like Asians would prefer casting spells, summoning Bahamut than playing a knight, defending a castle. etc. Another example, Asians would play Bleach: Heat the soul ~ over Marvel vs Capcom. They would prefer naruto. They would prefer DJ max portable over other DJ games that the US offer.
Animae (*** cartoons) have played quite a big role in influencing Asians.
Most Asians grow up without video games, thats why Pokemon can be so addictive, thats why Bleach amazes us (anyway do check out Bleach will ya? It has better graphics than Tekken even, i promise).
Thats why games, despite receiving low scores from the US games industry (e.g. monsterhunterfreedom 1), will continue to be produce and distributed to Asian countries.
Asia has 2.4 billion people. Thats a very large market you're looking at.
Why the DS sells, the psp too!
Pokemon, does it ring a bell?
The PSP has always been a first choice portable gaming console for all Asians. Games like Naruto, Monster Hunter, FinalFantasy 1 & 2 and above listed are games which have and will continue to draw Asians to the PSP. Cause we're fans of it.
The DS on the other hand, sells due to its simplicity. There's no software update, there isn't a need to add a memory stick, plug and play cartridges. Cooking mama sells doesn't it? Because girls here find the big eye lady in the game"cute". Nintendogs, it gives us Asians who missed out on the "Tamagochi"craze 10 years ago another chance at having an toy dog.
It maybe childish, but Asian girls love cute things, they love doramon, they love cooking mama. They love puzzles such as Brain age, which is not a game even. That sells the DS.
What about the 360!? Don't you guys play bioshock, gears?
The mentality of gamers here is that, we'll make do with what we have. We'll enjoy what we have. If we don't, its alright.
Americans are enjoying world of warcraft, but Asians are playing Maplestory, Gunbound, cause they're free. We're playing lots of PS2 games, still. Cause the PS2 is worthy buying because it has lots of games. The DS is worth buying? why? because it has pokemon. 1000 hours of gameplay in catchin' em' all. We like the PSP, cause it can do lots of stuff other than games.
Asians, Singaporeans in particular, are "kiasu". We want the best out of everything. We're more than happy with multiplatform games.
But the thing is, we can do without the 360.
Why? Gears & bioshock !?
Yes I know, the best selling games, gears and bioshock. Bioshock just reached 1.5million. Yes. But the thing is, they're available on the PC. As I've said, Asians want to get the best out of everything, we don't mind waiting too. The main point is ... the 360 cannot offer us a strong reason to love it.
You gotta love bioshock?
Yep, I do love it, playing it on the PC, bioshock PCis retailing at SGD 60 here. Which is around USD 38. Thats great for us folks here. Even through steam is USD 50. Its cheaper than the 360 version too.
What about gears? Common man', game of the year!
Its coming to the PC too, and I get extra levels! Yes, Asians don't mind waiting. It'll probably be better on the PC as well, in terms of graphics.
What about other games?! Exclusives? Forza?
Well, Halo, Halo2, Shadowrun is all on the PC? Oh yes, i get to play Lost planet too, in DIRECTX10 graphics. Ok, fine, 360 has forza, has saint's row. But being an Asian, I can do without those that I have a "compliment for". Its like ... I'm Asian. I have GTA, why should i play saint's row? I have GT in HD, why should I purchase Forza?
DAMMIT, you're missing out on LIVE!
Nope, sad to say, Microsoft did a very poor job on Xbox live here. You see, lets say I do get xbox live, who am I gonna play with? There ain't much people "live" on xbox live you see. There's very little life in Xbox live in the Asian market. Why? Because it requires $$$. I know it isn't much. But its not worth, because I won't be spending all my time playing. I've gotta work and feed the kids.
You're missing out on a lot of multiplayer fun, kid...
Well, there're lots of great single player games out there. Plus, even if i do get Live. Even if I do get connected into a server, I'll probably be flamed for my lagbecause i'm connected 5000miles awayfrom Singapore ... I won't be enjoying the multiplayer, so I won't mind missing it
Well, we have recorded stats there
Ok, I'll have to miss out on that
we have videos there too...
there's always game spot.. I don't mind viewing in low res.
we have demos there too.. you can't argue can you.
Well, i'll wait for the whole game to be out? I forgot to mention, there aren'tlarge franchiseshops purely delicated to selling games here, like gamestop in the US. But we do have many small individual retailers selling games. Therefore, its a personalise service. We get to try, run the game, to ensure they're no scratches on the disks, the game works perfectly fine, before we purchase it. We get to test run the consoles before we bring them home.
What makes you think the PS3 IS GONNA SELL THERE THEN?
Erm, because it has?
ok fine. I listed why 360 doesn't sell here, games going to the PC, xbox live not attractive, the price isn't too (its more expensive than the PS3 here), microsoft's service here isn't good (you get the 3 rings you've to send it to the US yourself), its just a dvd player.
why the ps3 then?
1) Exclusives that drives us Asians crazy. We love final fantasy,we love kojima and his MGS, we love Square's list of RPGs. We love GT (because it has more asian cars than forza does)
2) Multiplat games. With the ps3, i get to enjoy gta4, re5, dmc4 just like the 360 users does too.
3) blueray. I have a blueray machine!!! I don't have to buy an extra hDdvd. Unreal Tourny 3 for me will be on a single disk. Haven you heard? 360 gonna get less maps cause its a dvd, or else it'll be multidisk. I can't imagine getting off the crouch to change disk because I selected a map which is on disk 2 !!! Oh yes, I'll be using a keyboard and mouse to play unreal 3 .. I'll be having MODS too ...the 360 can't ..
Hey bro, you forgot one thing, multiplats are better on the 360 ... you know that..
Yes i do, "skate" got a better score on 360 than ps3. But the thing is ... I don't play skate. Asians won't buy a 360 because it has a better score than the ps3 in "skate". We win some, we lose some. Oblivon came to the ps3 with extras, 360 users will get their extras too, but thats after 6 months. Everyone has to wait, don't they.
ps3 has lots of flops
we don't care about flops ... flops are merely low scores given to games that we like. Monster hunter for PSP. gamespot gave it low, but its best selling in Japan? What does this say. We just enjoy our games.
NO HALO3 FOR YOU
Common' .. its produced by microsoft game studios, you're telling me it won't appear on the PC?
I'm Asian and i'll wait...
I mean, whats with halo? Its really the most hyped game in history. Halo 2 on the PC looked like the original halflife to me. The graphics were, that bad. I mean it really. I'm so angry, a waste of my money. But what was i expecting, True HD graphics? halo2 was on the original xbox, i forgot...
360 still owns ps3 in America
Yes yes i know. Worldwide sales 360 still pwns ps3. But as you know, Asians are waiters. We're waiting for mgs4, ff13, and other games. We're waiting for, maybe a sllim ps3? haha. But in the end, we'll get our ps3s, don't you worry.
Every month, you look at sales from America, Canada, Australia, Uk. But what about Asia. What about 2billion + people here in Asia. I know MS doesn't give a hoot. Sony does, nintendo does, thats why *** games are still popular among asians, thats why month after month top selling games in *** are allJap-co games.
Bleh, you play 360 games on your PC, you're a hermit too..
Everyone owns a PC, don't they.
You don't need a top end PC. Heard of those $1000 gaming PC?
Watever, you just sum up.
ok fine. As usual. I'll have to take out watever flame/ice/water shield that i have.
I'm just trying to voice out that in this part of the world, in Asia, Microsoft doesn't stand a chance with the 360.
We're all victims of the molopoly that Microsoft have with windows ...
But given the 360/ps3/wii , we have a choice, and us Asians would go for the ps3 with the reasons listed as above.
Yes, maybe you've gotton the idea that we don't mind waiting. Truth is, we do mind, just that to us its more important to get our money's worth. Thats why we wait.
Wii is selling well too, in america, europe .. but not here. Its extremely expensive here. about 350 US dollars ..
But for us Asians, the best bargain is the ps3, games, online wifi, free online gaming, blueray, .. we'll play 360 games on the pc..
comments and flames ... please.
i would like to emphasis this last points again
"I'm just trying to voice out that in this part of the world, in Asia, Microsoft doesn't stand a chance with the 360.
We're all victims of the molopoly that Microsoft have with windows ...
But given the 360/ps3/wii , we have a choice, and us Asians would go for the ps3 with the reasons listed as above."
weiliang_1988
I have to say, I find the TC's post very ignorant and offensive. How many times does he say "I'm Asian, (therefore naturally I think this)." Dude, get you head out of your @ss. I have lots of Asian friends who love Halo, WRPGs and Forza. In fact most of them have switched to the 360 from PS2 (and aren't even considering a PS3, since they don't care at all about FF13, whenever it eventually comes out). And you make it sound like Asians don't care about WOW. Um, didn't a guy in Korea DIE because he was playing it too much?!
Certainly, the 360 doesn't sell as well as the others, but when you say the Wii doesn't sell because it's too much and then say how well the PS3 is/will do, I stop listening.
Don't act like you can speak for all of Asia.
[QUOTE="coakroach"]Asia doesnt like the 360
We get it
At least everyone will speak the same language when i play halo 3 on xbox live
weiliang_1988
thats true. you don't want koreans blasting into the mic i suppose.
cause u give nothing to argue,
'i live in singapore bla bla bla'
i dont even know you posted this in SW
Kaosed
no .. my stand in the last para was that MS doesn't own the world, only america...
about the singapore thing, thats where I live, at least i know where my country is on the map.
LOL yeah, I find it funny how a big percent of americans don't know where their country is! :lol:
But seriously, there is a blog option you know, most people won't care of what you posted. Like me.
Hi Weiliang. I'm Malaysian, which as you know is located right next to Singapore. All I have to say is you don't know what you're talking about so stop speaking for the rest of us Asians.
The reason why the Xbox 360 isn't because it's Microsoft, or American, or because we only love JRPGs (and I do, but that's besides the point). Game consoles in general don't receive any form of marketing here at all here except in magazines and in an obscure segment or page in newspapers. We don't get commercials for games or consoles, which just shows we're not a big market to begin with. That's why local pirates get away with importing consoles and charging them at high prices. Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo has done absolutely nothing in terms of marketing their consoles so most of us in this region are unaware of their products. The only time we'll see anything gaming related is when we take our walks in the local malls and shopping complexes, and they'll usually sell what's popular. That's why the PS1 and PS2 sells reasonably well, usually being the first console you'll lay eyes on being displayed as well as because pirated games for them are available. Also there's a huge lack of stores which sell original games and consoles anyway because in our currencies, it's just too expensive for anyone to afford.
The Xbox had almost nil presence here when it was out and so the same could be said of the 360. As I said, none of the 3 companies have advertised or made us aware of their products. Right now the PS3 is hella expensive and I don't see people lining up to buy it, but it's the only console with a moniker everyone's familiar with (Playstaion). The pirates are just adding a premium on top of the base price. We have no choice but to wait for it. It's not that we like waiting but it's the only thing we can do. Gameboy has always been popular as well. Around the time the DS came out, I witnessed a few people coming in to stores asking "What's the price of the new Gameboy?". Again it shows how little we know of their presence.
Being that you live in Singapore, whose population is only a small fraction of Malaysia's, Thailand's, Australia's, and probably around 1% of Indonesia's, you have no right to be telling Americans what Asians like doing and why American products like the 360 fails here. It has all to do with marketing, and nothing to do with it being an Asian/American problem. Console sales in Singapore probably only add up to a couple of thousands anyways so your market is actually pretty negligible in the big picture. I'm surprised Microsoft held a launch party there but they're not likely to follow it up in any case. There, I'm done.
PS. "Kiasu" doesn't mean you like the best stuff. It means "scared to lose". Malaysians like to say Singaporeans "kiasu" and "kiasi" (scared of dying) and all sorts of names. It's a stereotype I suppose but whatever. You get what I'm saying.
ken_gamer
GG
anymore "real asians want to state there beef!
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