Riiight lol. he just wants all consumers to buy MGS5
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Well according to a lot of ppl the original xbox smoked the ps2 in the graphics department (cue: splinter cell screens?)
yet kojima said
[quote="Kojima"]Ahhh, the Xbox, the graphics are probably a little better, but the systems are pretty much the same, the Xbox and the PS2.campzor
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Just saying.
Oh shit, well. Thread over thenÂ
The diff. between XBOX and PS2 graphics wise was BIG.
Reading it again, sounds like there might be a translation error. Doesn't make sense.
Chutebox
exactly what I've been saying.
Kojima: Ahhh, the Xbox, the graphics are probably a little better, but the systems are pretty much the same, the Xbox and the PS2. They're not that different. If I spent a lot of time creating a game specific for the Xbox, I could come up with something great. But I feel that they are basically the same, you know, memory wise, etc.
PS2 ~ Xbox? GG Kojima.
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Well according to a lot of ppl the original xbox smoked the ps2 in the graphics department (cue: splinter cell screens?)
yet kojima said
[quote="Kojima"]Ahhh, the Xbox, the graphics are probably a little better, but the systems are pretty much the same, the Xbox and the PS2.Douevenlift_bro
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Just saying.
Oh shit, well. Thread over thenÂ
The diff. between XBOX and PS2 graphics wise was BIG.
devs didnt utilize the full power of xbox tho. that's why some games looked just ok and some looked great like shenmue[QUOTE="Chutebox"]
Reading it again, sounds like there might be a translation error. Doesn't make sense.
ReadingRainbow4
exactly what I've been saying.
Unless the x1 specs got a boost then most likely it is a error.[QUOTE="campzor"]
Well according to a lot of ppl the original xbox smoked the ps2 in the graphics department (cue: splinter cell screens?)
yet kojima said
[quote="Kojima"]Ahhh, the Xbox, the graphics are probably a little better, but the systems are pretty much the same, the Xbox and the PS2.Douevenlift_bro
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Just saying.
Oh shit, well. Thread over thenÂ
The diff. between XBOX and PS2 graphics wise was BIG.
Yep, that's why one of the best FPSs never came to PS2 like Half Life 2, Far Cry, DOOM 3 and many more.[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"][QUOTE="campzor"]
Well according to a lot of ppl the original xbox smoked the ps2 in the graphics department (cue: splinter cell screens?)
yet kojima said
[quote="Kojima"]Ahhh, the Xbox, the graphics are probably a little better, but the systems are pretty much the same, the Xbox and the PS2.faizan_faizan
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Just saying.
Oh shit, well. Thread over thenÂ
The diff. between XBOX and PS2 graphics wise was BIG.
Yep, that's why one of the best FPSs never came to PS2 like Half Life 2, Far Cry, DOOM 3 and many more.I was forced to play FPS's like "Black" on PS2. If anyone even remembers that game lolDoes it? Sony released the official spec sheet in PDF format and IIRC the sheet clearly gave a figure of around 1.8ish GFLOP; the same ball park as MS. The pre-spec sheet rumours about Sony's system being more powerful seem to be false.yeah sure the two next gen consoles are extremely similiar in design and architecture but the PS4 GPU has roughly 600 more GFLOPS then the XB1 GPU which actually shows in PS4's exclusives.Â
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Multiplats may not really show the difference much but PS4 exclusives most certainly will... the XB1 can never run The Sorcerer tech demo like the PS4 did
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poor lemmings get stuck with a weak console, Forza and Titanfall dont even look good at all it looks like my morning dumpÂ
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Edit: The figure I was talking about was TFLOPS. Â Anyway, here are the exact specifications:Â http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/130611a_e.pdf
[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]
ms paid kojima to say that.
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Mrmedia01
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He not going to say anything bad about MS. He was featured at MS E3 conference, so he wont say nothing negative about MS, because he is working side by side with MS and they are probably giving hikm extra money lol.
Fan boys sure do hate him now. Loved him last gen but now he is "payed" by MS.[QUOTE="Mrmedia01"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]
ms paid kojima to say that.
:P
cheesie253
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He not going to say anything bad about MS. He was featured at MS E3 conference, so he wont say nothing negative about MS, because he is working side by side with MS and they are probably giving hikm extra money lol.
Fan boys sure do hate him now. Loved him last gen but now he is "payed" by MS. Lol, was he paid by Sony last gen? His opinion is his own, but I trust it more than fanboys :) And E3 didn't show me anything to discount his opinion. But feel free to continue posting the specs. I will reply when you can post the games that back it up :)Nah, I have seen box One games and feel they are equal or better than PS4 games. Until I see different the spoecs are what they are. But I don't play specs, I play games. I respect your opinion though. Nods what i stated isnt opinions man its facts, actual facts from the industry nah man you just got microsoft rose goggles on, nothing at Xbox's E3 comes even close to The Sorcerer tech demo showed at the PS4 event running in REAL TIME ON A PS4 DEV KIT, expect a drop in graphics for the Xbox one buddy because what they showed at E3 was running on the new 700 series GTX cards running on Windows 7. im not really sure if your just trying to troll now or not im confused but like i said stop being so delusional.[QUOTE="shawn30"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] sure, Kojima can say whatever he wants, i mean he was at the MS E3 conference and IS a big partner with them, why would he say anything different then what he said? but the proofs already there man, the ps4 games shown at E3 looked noticeably better then what Xbox one had to offer (by the way the "Xbox One kiosks where actually PC's running on Nvidia GTX 700 series and windows 7 LOL) but the proofs already there man, the PS4 has a 1.84 teraflop GPU and the Xbox One has a 1.1 teraflop GPU (10% reserved for OS) and it showed in the games that were shown on both consoles... i dont understand why lemmings have to go to this extent, you know your "next gen console" is going to be weak, why not just buy another Windows product (PC) and have better looking games then TitanFall, which looks like a slightly upgraded CoDxboxiphoneps3
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the PS4 gpu has a 1.84 teraflop GPU and the Xbox One has a 1.1 teraflop GPU... bigg difference and you can see it in the PS4 exclusives like Infamous second son, which really feels like a NEXT next gen game compared to Titanfall and the other terrible games they showed at Xbox E3Â
Its confirmed Forza 5 and Ryse were played on actual Xbox One systems, and IGN saw Titanfall played on them as well. Again, Im not disputing your specs, but you don't have any games to back them up yet. And Kojima has seen the guts of both systems and feels the the difference is small. So I trust him. Thanks[QUOTE="cheesie253"][QUOTE="Mrmedia01"]Fan boys sure do hate him now. Loved him last gen but now he is "payed" by MS. Lol, was he paid by Sony last gen? His opinion is his own, but I trust it more than fanboys :) And E3 didn't show me anything to discount his opinion. But feel free to continue posting the specs. I will reply when you can post the games that back it up :) So you agree that the difference between PS2 and xbox were very small?Â
He not going to say anything bad about MS. He was featured at MS E3 conference, so he wont say nothing negative about MS, because he is working side by side with MS and they are probably giving hikm extra money lol.
shawn30
[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]what i stated isnt opinions man its facts, actual facts from the industry nah man you just got microsoft rose goggles on, nothing at Xbox's E3 comes even close to The Sorcerer tech demo showed at the PS4 event running in REAL TIME ON A PS4 DEV KIT, expect a drop in graphics for the Xbox one buddy because what they showed at E3 was running on the new 700 series GTX cards running on Windows 7. im not really sure if your just trying to troll now or not im confused but like i said stop being so delusional.[QUOTE="shawn30"] Nah, I have seen box One games and feel they are equal or better than PS4 games. Until I see different the spoecs are what they are. But I don't play specs, I play games. I respect your opinion though. Nodsshawn30
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the PS4 gpu has a 1.84 teraflop GPU and the Xbox One has a 1.1 teraflop GPU... bigg difference and you can see it in the PS4 exclusives like Infamous second son, which really feels like a NEXT next gen game compared to Titanfall and the other terrible games they showed at Xbox E3Â
Its confirmed Forza 5 and Ryse were played on actual Xbox One systems, and IGN saw Titanfall played on them as well. Again, Im not disputing your specs, but you don't have any games to back them up yet. And Kojima has seen the guts of both systems and feels the the difference is small. So I trust him. Thanks Nothing shown on x1 looks as good as Infamouswait a minute , a dev who demo his game on Xbox stage at E3......say the difference are small between xbox and ps4...what in the world ?! :o
i thought his going to say : "hey, you know the console we will bring MGS5 on it it's a weak console and ps4 is more powerful...don't buy our game on xbox1"
lol, lems:cry: you are looking for any thing to feel better you guys :lol:
ignore the Official specs :cool:
and enjoy the Dev's PR
i only hope that he won't downgrade the ps4 version to look the same as xbox version
Thank you MS.....::(:
[QUOTE="shawn30"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] what i stated isnt opinions man its facts, actual facts from the industry nah man you just got microsoft rose goggles on, nothing at Xbox's E3 comes even close to The Sorcerer tech demo showed at the PS4 event running in REAL TIME ON A PS4 DEV KIT, expect a drop in graphics for the Xbox one buddy because what they showed at E3 was running on the new 700 series GTX cards running on Windows 7. im not really sure if your just trying to troll now or not im confused but like i said stop being so delusional.Its confirmed Forza 5 and Ryse were played on actual Xbox One systems, and IGN saw Titanfall played on them as well. Again, Im not disputing your specs, but you don't have any games to back them up yet. And Kojima has seen the guts of both systems and feels the the difference is small. So I trust him. Thanks Nothing shown on x1 looks as good as Infamous That's your opinion and I respect that. But I was far more impressed by Dead Rising 3 than Infamous. But to each his or her own :)Â
the PS4 gpu has a 1.84 teraflop GPU and the Xbox One has a 1.1 teraflop GPU... bigg difference and you can see it in the PS4 exclusives like Infamous second son, which really feels like a NEXT next gen game compared to Titanfall and the other terrible games they showed at Xbox E3Â
Chutebox
[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="shawn30"] Its confirmed Forza 5 and Ryse were played on actual Xbox One systems, and IGN saw Titanfall played on them as well. Again, Im not disputing your specs, but you don't have any games to back them up yet. And Kojima has seen the guts of both systems and feels the the difference is small. So I trust him. Thanksshawn30Nothing shown on x1 looks as good as Infamous That's your opinion and I respect that. But I was far more impressed by Dead Rising 3 than Infamous. But to each his or her own :)
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You're talking just graphics, right?
Well theres that too.Kojima: Ahhh, the Xbox, the graphics are probably a little better, but the systems are pretty much the same, the Xbox and the PS2. They're not that different. If I spent a lot of time creating a game specific for the Xbox, I could come up with something great. But I feel that they are basically the same, you know, memory wise, etc.
SaltyMeatballs
PS2 ~ Xbox? GG Kojima.
That's your opinion and I respect that. But I was far more impressed by Dead Rising 3 than Infamous. But to each his or her own :)[QUOTE="shawn30"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Nothing shown on x1 looks as good as InfamousChutebox
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You're talking just graphics, right?
No, overall interest in the game and likelyhood to purchase. But again its just my POV.[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="shawn30"] That's your opinion and I respect that. But I was far more impressed by Dead Rising 3 than Infamous. But to each his or her own :)shawn30
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You're talking just graphics, right?
No, overall interest in the game and likelyhood to purchase. But again its just my POV. Well we were talking about console power and graphics which is why I said what I did.LOL................guess what Kojima...........I've seen the specs.I don't need someone to tell me about the power differences next gen..............PS4 WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This will only really matter when it comes to 1st party games though...............can't wait to see what the Sony studios come up with.:)
[QUOTE="shawn30"][QUOTE="cheesie253"] Fan boys sure do hate him now. Loved him last gen but now he is "payed" by MS. ChuteboxLol, was he paid by Sony last gen? His opinion is his own, but I trust it more than fanboys :) And E3 didn't show me anything to discount his opinion. But feel free to continue posting the specs. I will reply when you can post the games that back it up :) So you agree that the difference between PS2 and xbox were very small?
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[QUOTE="ComBaTsOuL"]Two devs have come out and said the same thing, watchdogs and now kojima? naaah that cant be right the fanboys on here say different they must be right lol...shawn30Hahahahahah, exactly!!
So was the difference between the xbox and ps2 small Shawn?
[QUOTE="ComBaTsOuL"]Two devs have come out and said the same thing, watchdogs and now kojima? naaah that cant be right the fanboys on here say different they must be right lol...shawn30Hahahahahah, exactly!! So what on x1 looks as good as Infamous? And again, "So you agree that the difference between PS2 and xbox were very small?"
Two devs have come out and said the same thing, watchdogs and now kojima? naaah that cant be right the fanboys on here say different they must be right lol...ComBaTsOuLI'll take cold hard numbers over PR thank you very much.
Dude was no where to be seen at Sonys press conference. Â Obviously been given a big fat pay check from Microsoft.
[QUOTE="ComBaTsOuL"]Two devs have come out and said the same thing, watchdogs and now kojima? naaah that cant be right the fanboys on here say different they must be right lol...hexashadow13I'll take cold hard numbers over PR thank you very much.These kids believe in cloud. Facts/specs are nothing but just numbers on paper to them. Hence "PS4 is only more powerful on paper"
[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"][QUOTE="campzor"]
Well according to a lot of ppl the original xbox smoked the ps2 in the graphics department (cue: splinter cell screens?)
yet kojima said
[quote="Kojima"]Ahhh, the Xbox, the graphics are probably a little better, but the systems are pretty much the same, the Xbox and the PS2.faizan_faizan
Â
Just saying.
Oh shit, well. Thread over thenÂ
The diff. between XBOX and PS2 graphics wise was BIG.
Yep, that's why one of the best FPSs never came to PS2 like Half Life 2, Far Cry, DOOM 3 and many more. Yo, remember when Riddick came out on Xbox? That game was light years ahead of the PS2. Same with Conker. Xbox decimated the PS2 graphics-wise.[QUOTE="Chutebox"]That is small, thats about the difference between a gtx 680 and 780. Multiplats might have slightly less popup or slightly better aa. Saw the difference in frame rates in games and the PS4 card had an average of about 20 frames more ps. That's pretty big.50% is small? Now lems love Kojima!?
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