Hideo Kojima: Difference between next gen systems is small

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

Most of us saw a pretty big difference.

You sure you game on pc bro?

Chutebox

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

The 4th one down is 100% actual gameplay

Cranler

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] You must not post here much. Literally everyone here knew what he meant but you.Chutebox

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

The 4th one down is 100% actual gameplay

Chutebox

I love gifs as much as the next person but small gifs make things look better than they really are since everything is hidden. inFamous looks good but it doesn't look as good as impressive as the gifs suggest. The screens aren't also bullshots, more just carefully selected to be impressive. If you watch a video the game looks like that at moments, other moments it looks good but not that good.

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

I think Dead Rising 3 looks better than Infamous SS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6pSP6jyibU vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uibnf_Q_51s

kinectthedots

lol no

and yes that is a gameplay shot of Infamous SS

[QUOTE="Articuno76"][QUOTE="Cranler"] Weak damage control. Dont need super high res to see the difference is minimal. In fact the only notable difference is in the upper left corner where I think the lower settings actually looks better. Check this tweak guide to see how small the differences are http://www.tweakguides.com/Crysis3_9.htmlReadingRainbow4

Tomb raider in general is an unoptimized mess, especially on nividia hardware.

But there is a difference with the shadows, I notice with them on normal you lose the soft quality in alot of scenes. I personally don't run mine at ultra on my gtx 580 with the custom OC of 920/2100 and maintain a near constant 60fps with FXXA.

If he wants to start talking about how the difference of a setting that takes away 20 or so FPS, a better example would be 2-4X SSAA that really improves image quality unfortunately it tanks performance.

I will never agree with him however that having the extra GPU processing power to run 20-30 more frames is a small difference, like I said that allows for a great difference in image quality, depending on if the devs take advantage of it.

I love gifs as much as the next person but small gifs make things look better than they really are since everything is hidden. inFamous looks good but it doesn't look as good as impressive as the gifs suggest. The screens aren't also bullshots, more just carefully selected to be impressive. If you watch a video the game looks like that at moments, other moments it looks good but not that good.

ActicEdge

[QUOTE="kinectthedots"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

I think Dead Rising 3 looks better than Infamous SS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6pSP6jyibU vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uibnf_Q_51s

Cranler

lol no

and yes that is a gameplay shot of Infamous SS

inFamous has a much cleaner look to it than DR:3 but I also feel from what I've seen the world looks a little more cookie cutter. The effects in inFamous are really really nice though. Especially the smoke and fire.

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="kinectthedots"]

lol no

and yes that is a gameplay shot of Infamous SS

ActicEdge

inFamous has a much cleaner look to it than DR:3 but I also feel from what I've seen the world looks a little more cookie cutter. The effects in inFamous are really really nice though. Especially the smoke and fire.

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Are you 10? Not upset over anything. Not gonna explain it to ya. You'll get the hang of it.Chutebox

Dont see anything impressive in either shot.Cranler

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"] Dont see anything impressive in either shot. Also remember that Dead Rising has huge npc counts.

Cranler

inFamous has a much cleaner look to it than DR:3 but I also feel from what I've seen the world looks a little more cookie cutter. The effects in inFamous are really really nice though. Especially the smoke and fire.

[QUOTE="Cranler"] Dont see anything impressive in either shot.Tessellation

RF had pretty decent destruction but a simple statics class would tell you that many of the senarios in those videos flat out are not physically possible.

CJ_ofCamelot

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

inFamous has a much cleaner look to it than DR:3 but I also feel from what I've seen the world looks a little more cookie cutter. The effects in inFamous are really really nice though. Especially the smoke and fire.

CJ_ofCamelot

Well according to a lot of ppl the original xbox smoked the ps2 in the graphics department (cue: splinter cell screens?)

yet kojima said

[quote="Kojima"]Ahhh, the Xbox, the graphics are probably a little better, but the systems are pretty much the same, the Xbox and the PS2.campzor

Just saying.

Since everyone is ignoring it for some reason.

I find this more impressive than any of the Infamous screens

Cranler

I think second son looks better but not much better tbh. They are pretty comparable.

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

I find this more impressive than any of the Infamous screens

 

ActicEdge

I think second son looks better but not much better tbh. They are pretty comparable.

[QUOTE="campzor"]

Well according to a lot of ppl the original xbox smoked the ps2 in the graphics department (cue: splinter cell screens?)

yet kojima said

[quote="Kojima"]Ahhh, the Xbox, the graphics are probably a little better, but the systems are pretty much the same, the Xbox and the PS2.campzor

Just saying.

Since everyone is ignoring it for some reason.

I agree with you if nothing but for the realization that it is just one developers opinion. Not the end all be all. That and the OG XBox has some mighty bullshots floating around the net.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

I find this more impressive than any of the Infamous screens

Tessellation

I think second son looks better but not much better tbh. They are pretty comparable.

If there were 10 billion zombies on screen in stead of 1 thousand would it matter to my perception of the graphics? Not really. 

[QUOTE="CJ_ofCamelot"][QUOTE="Cranler"]I find this more impressive than any of the Infamous screens

Cranler

I can't believe Cranler's been arguing semantics this entire time, so glad I bailed.

I can't believe Cranlers been arguing semantics this entire time, so glad I bailed.

 

ReadingRainbow4

I haven't been reading this discussion, but damn.  If GS were able to scan and delete all semantics based arguments from SW I think almost half of the posts would disappear.

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

I can't believe Cranlers been arguing semantics this entire time, so glad I bailed.

ConanTheStoner

I haven't been reading this discussion, but damn. If GS were able to scan and delete all semantics based arguments from SW I think almost half of the posts would disappear.

just glance over the past 2 pages, talking with this guy is like banging your head against a wall.

[QUOTE="ConanTheStoner"]

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

I can't believe Cranlers been arguing semantics this entire time, so glad I bailed.

 

ReadingRainbow4

I haven't been reading this discussion, but damn. If GS were able to scan and delete all semantics based arguments from SW I think almost half of the posts would disappear.

just glance over the past 2 pages, talking with this guy is like banging your head against a wall.

I spent two days trying to explain a simple joke to Cyberdot and he still doesn't get it... I know the feeling lol.

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

[QUOTE="ConanTheStoner"]

I haven't been reading this discussion, but damn. If GS were able to scan and delete all semantics based arguments from SW I think almost half of the posts would disappear.

ConanTheStoner

just glance over the past 2 pages, talking with this guy is like banging your head against a wall.

I spent two days trying to explain a simple joke to Cyberdot and he still doesn't get it... I know the feeling lol.

lol, thankfully I chose to end this before the 24 hour mark.

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="CJ_ofCamelot"] CJ_ofCamelot

I can't believe Cranler's been arguing semantics this entire time, so glad I bailed.

ReadingRainbow4

That aliasing in Killzone....OUCH!

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"] An extra 20 frames to work with will give you slightly better graphics. In Crysis 3 for example medium shader and shadows look barely different from maxed yet the performance difference is about 25 fps. Cranler

That's complete bullshit.

Maxed shaders and shadows