How can anybody not like PC gaming?

There are simple facts about the greatness of PC gaming and people who consider themselves hardcore gamers and are not a PC gamer are only kidding themselves.Some simple facts about PC gaming.

1.You can play most of the games with either a gamepad or keyboard/mouse.That is such a great option that I cannot stress the importance off.

2.The PC has undisputedly the best games library in comparasion to any other gaming platform.

3.The PC provides better FPS,RTS and MMORPG experience than all the other gaming platforms in the world combined.

4.The PC has easily the best graphics.Even if you are a budget gamer you will still be mostly ahead of consoles in terms of graphics.The budget card of last gen the 8600GT is almost as good if not better than any of the current consoles.The budget card of today the 9600GT available for only $110 easily and unarguably destroys any of the current consoles in graphics performance.

5.You can play games without having to swap discs on the PC.With a console when you want to play another game you have to get up and change a disc.With the PC it's only a few clicks away and you would already be playing another game in a matter of seconds.

6.The PC is "fully compatable" with any single display in the world be it SDTV,HDTV,CRT monitor or LCD monitor.Consoles cannot use CRT monitors for HD gaming as they dont support them and consoles donot "natively" support most LCD monitors so you are missing out on picture quality.

7.You can use a myraid of different gamepads,keyboards and mice with the PC and there are so many of these that you are bound to like something that really fits your needs almost 100%.What do I do if I dont like the PS3 controller?On the PC it's not even an issue but tell me please what do I do if I want to play PS3 and dont like the sixaxis?

8.The PC has MODS which I really cant explain to you and you really wont get to know there awesomeness unless you actually experience this side of PC gaming.

9.Now unless you decide to get a new OS as soon as it comes and dont dual boot a previous version,you will get almost 100% backwards compatability that no other console can even think about.Yes I know it isnt exactly 100% but still there are ways around when you cant run a really old game.Basically with the PC you have at your disposal more than 20 years of gaming,and you dont have to buy classics again as console gamers do as you can just use your old collection in it's raw form even be it in a floopy disk.

So these are all facts as to the greatness of PC gaming and people who are not a PC gamer are only missing out.In terms of features split-screen gaming is the absolute only thing that console gaming has over PC gaming.

Can anybody give me a reason as to why they dont like PC gaming?

I can uderstand why people don't like it initially but if you are a gamer you should atleast TRY to broaden your horizons and learn something about what you're using right now.hongkingkong

I for one don't really like pc gaming, I mean if it's so great, why haven't the masses went solely to pc?

console gaming absolutely destroys pc gaming in sales

I like pc's for mods and some games you can't get on consoles, but no thanks

oh and I hate keyboard and mouse controlls, I've tried and tried, it just dosen't feel natural to me. I dunno.

I've played games on my PC before, I prefer consoles. Simple as thatf50p90

Well everyone is entitled to their opinions and some people don't like pc gaming I guess. I personally could not go without pc gaming, my favourite genres are all represented on the pc and most of them would never work on a console.

[QUOTE="f50p90"]I've played games on my PC before, I prefer consoles. Simple as thatGambler_1

I for one don't really like pc gaming, I mean if it's so great, why haven't the masses went solely to pc?

console gaming absolutely destroys pc gaming in sales

I like pc's for mods and some games you can't get on consoles, but no thanks

oh and I hate keyboard and mouse controlls, I've tried and tried, it just dosen't feel natural to me. I dunno.

JuKeE76

And really how do you know that there are more console gamers than PC gamers.How do you know how many people play pirated games which donot get reflected in the sales at all.

Do you even know that crysis is "optimzed" for a 360 controller like when you plug in a 360 controller you wont have to fiddle with the sensitivity of the joysticks as the game automatically adjusts it's controls for a gamepad.It just works exactly like a console game.

And all games labelled under gamer for windows HAVE TO support a 360 controller out of the box.

6.The PC is "fully compatable" with any single display in the world be it SDTV,HDTV,CRT monitor or LCD monitor.Consoles cannot use CRT monitors for HD gaming as they dont support them and consoles donot "natively" support most LCD monitors so you are missing out on picture quality.

Gambler_1

Last time I checked, there are HD CRT televisions out there, though they are on the verge of extinction, they are supported. Even if they aren't, you can still use composite cables if need be, consoles may not 'natively' support monitors without the propoer cables; but some PCs can't 'natively' support some games without the proper video card(s).

[QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="f50p90"]I've played games on my PC before, I prefer consoles. Simple as thatf50p90

why is it that it seems every console fanboy has a 42" HDTV and than go on whining about the price of a PC :?

[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="f50p90"]I've played games on my PC before, I prefer consoles. Simple as that_Pedro_

why is it that it seems every console fanboy has a 42" HDTV and than go on whining about the price of a PC :?

Complexity, and I say that as a PC gamer. You can debate how expensive PCs are and what they can and cannot do, but at the end of the day the fact is it is much easier to set-up, play and maintain a console because of their unified architecture. While there are benefits to that complexity (upgradability, mods, community features, etc.) you cannot deny that it takes significantly longer to set up and maintain a PC than it does a console.PBSnipes

All you have to do is run defrag and virus scan every 3 months and you are fine and done with the maintainance.Every now and then just check out the latest graphics drivers and update them if new ones are available.There is nothing difficult in that.

[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="f50p90"]I've played games on my PC before, I prefer consoles. Simple as that_Pedro_

why is it that it seems every console fanboy has a 42" HDTV and than go on whining about the price of a PC :?

[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="f50p90"]I've played games on my PC before, I prefer consoles. Simple as that_Pedro_

why is it that it seems every console fanboy has a 42" HDTV and than go on whining about the price of a PC :?

An HDTV is a part of your entertainment center. Cable TV, movies etc. Who buys a TV to be used with a console only?

#5 is wrong. For some of my PC games I need to have the discs and swap them according to which game I want.Udsen

Sports, Racing, and Platformers work best on consoles. Yes, racing games on PC are good but the simplicity of getting a racing wheel working with a console is a major plus. But strategy is a best on PC kind of deal. TekkenMaster606

[QUOTE="Udsen"]#5 is wrong. For some of my PC games I need to have the discs and swap them according to which game I want.Gambler_1

So it wouldn't be legal?

Gotta love it. Anyways, I don't understand why any fanboy makes a big deal out of opening a dvd slot, and changing a disk.

[QUOTE="Udsen"]#5 is wrong. For some of my PC games I need to have the discs and swap them according to which game I want.Gambler_1

Why do every hermit believe people are buying HDTVs to only play games?JLF1

An HDTV is a part of your entertainment center. Cable TV, movies etc. Who buys a TV to be used with a console only?

Deihmos

why do console fanboys believe hermits only buy pc's to play games? That is the point I'm trying to make here. You cannot say that the PC is expensive when it's just as much of a neccesity as a normal TV, up the price a bit and you will get just as much advantages from a normal pc to a high-end rig as a SD-TV to a HD-TV. In my case you get a gaming rig capable of playing all the latest games atleast on High.

[QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="f50p90"]I've played games on my PC before, I prefer consoles. Simple as thatf50p90

And you dont have to worry about viruses unless you decide to download porn.If you have anti virus and apyware than you dont have to worry about anything.I use my PC for porn but on safe sites than I know and havent got a virus for over a year now.

And I was yesterday playing PES8 with my friends on the PC.

[QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"]

[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="f50p90"]I've played games on my PC before, I prefer consoles. Simple as that_Pedro_

why is it that it seems every console fanboy has a 42" HDTV and than go on whining about the price of a PC :?

why do console fanboys believe hermits only buy pc's to play games? That is the point I'm trying to make here. You cannot say that the PC is expensive when it's just as much of a neccesity as a normal TV, up the price a bit and you will get just as much advantages from a normal pc to a high-end rig as a SD-TV to a HD-TV. In my case you get a gaming rig capable of playing all the latest games atleast on High.

[QUOTE="_Pedro_"]

why do console fanboys believe hermits only buy pc's to play games? That is the point I'm trying to make here. You cannot say that the PC is expensive when it's just as much of a neccesity as a normal TV, up the price a bit and you will get just as much advantages from a normal pc to a high-end rig as a SD-TV to a HD-TV. In my case you get a gaming rig capable of playing all the latest games atleast on High.

f50p90

naturally and I really don't care. All I'm saying is that when you put things in to perspective, they aren't as expensive as some people may claim.

[QUOTE="JLF1"]

Why do every hermit believe people are buying HDTVs to only play games?_Pedro_

An HDTV is a part of your entertainment center. Cable TV, movies etc. Who buys a TV to be used with a console only?

Deihmos

why do console fanboys believe hermits only buy pc's to play games? That is the point I'm trying to make here. You cannot say that the PC is expensive when it's just as much of a neccesity as a normal TV, up the price a bit and you will get just as much advantages from a normal pc to a high-end rig as a SD-TV to a HD-TV. In my case you get a gaming rig capable of playing all the latest games atleast on High.

[QUOTE="Gambler_1"]

6.The PC is "fully compatable" with any single display in the world be it SDTV,HDTV,CRT monitor or LCD monitor.Consoles cannot use CRT monitors for HD gaming as they dont support them and consoles donot "natively" support most LCD monitors so you are missing out on picture quality.

DementedDragon

Last time I checked, there are HD CRT televisions out there, though they are on the verge of extinction, they are supported. Even if they aren't, you can still use composite cables if need be, consoles may not 'natively' support monitors without the propoer cables; but some PCs can't 'natively' support some games without the proper video card(s).

And no be it proper cables or not consoles cannot and simply CANNOT natively support PC LCD monitors.There is no way around it.

[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="f50p90"]I've played games on my PC before, I prefer consoles. Simple as that_Pedro_

why is it that it seems every console fanboy has a 42" HDTV and than go on whining about the price of a PC :?

[QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="Udsen"]#5 is wrong. For some of my PC games I need to have the discs and swap them according to which game I want.Udsen

So it wouldn't be legal?

Gotta love it. Anyways, I don't understand why any fanboy makes a big deal out of opening a dvd slot, and changing a disk.

[QUOTE="Gambler_1"]

6.The PC is "fully compatable" with any single display in the world be it SDTV,HDTV,CRT monitor or LCD monitor.Consoles cannot use CRT monitors for HD gaming as they dont support them and consoles donot "natively" support most LCD monitors so you are missing out on picture quality.

DementedDragon

Last time I checked, there are HD CRT televisions out there, though they are on the verge of extinction, they are supported. Even if they aren't, you can still use composite cables if need be, consoles may not 'natively' support monitors without the propoer cables; but some PCs can't 'natively' support some games without the proper video card(s).

[QUOTE="DementedDragon"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"]

6.The PC is "fully compatable" with any single display in the world be it SDTV,HDTV,CRT monitor or LCD monitor.Consoles cannot use CRT monitors for HD gaming as they dont support them and consoles donot "natively" support most LCD monitors so you are missing out on picture quality.

Gambler_1

Last time I checked, there are HD CRT televisions out there, though they are on the verge of extinction, they are supported. Even if they aren't, you can still use composite cables if need be, consoles may not 'natively' support monitors without the propoer cables; but some PCs can't 'natively' support some games without the proper video card(s).

And no be it proper cables or not consoles cannot and simply CANNOT natively support PC LCD monitors.There is no way around it.

Yes there are ways around it but how are new PC gamers supposed to know what to do? There are always ways around it if you know what to do on the PC but people might not have time or concentration to learn it and that is a problem for the PC platform.

[QUOTE="_Pedro_"][QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"]

[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="f50p90"]I've played games on my PC before, I prefer consoles. Simple as thatf50p90

why is it that it seems every console fanboy has a 42" HDTV and than go on whining about the price of a PC :?

why do console fanboys believe hermits only buy pc's to play games? That is the point I'm trying to make here. You cannot say that the PC is expensive when it's just as much of a neccesity as a normal TV, up the price a bit and you will get just as much advantages from a normal pc to a high-end rig as a SD-TV to a HD-TV. In my case you get a gaming rig capable of playing all the latest games atleast on High.

People who have 1080p HDTV's and are only gaming on consoles are really kidding themselves.To really enjoy a 1080p HDTV for some gaming to it's potential,you need a PC and a pretty good one at that.

well the PC is my primary gaming platform and I have found some things I don't like about it:

1. The controls: they don't feel as good as a controller (if you use a controller on PC you will die online), I don't really care about being fast with a mouse , pulling a trigger just feels better than tapping a tiny button it seems kind of like pulling a trigger feels like smashing a tennis ball and clicking a house feels more like taping a ping-pong ball.

2. Lack of consistency: This is a strength of the PC (since it lets you play the game however you want), but it also means if you want to be really good at a game rather than strategy and skill you can get a one up by just doing things like turning graphics down and mapping fire to your scroller.

3. Hacks: even if they arn't used excessively, you can't play a game without getting annoyed by endless hacking accusations.

4. No splitscreen on most games: it would be nice to have people over to play splitscreen since when I have people over no one wants to play PC because only one person can play at a time.

PC is still my favorite platform but it's not like its withought flaw.

not a lot on pc looks better then gt5 . pc gaming is a head but unles you have a high end machine they are not far ahead at all .deadmeat59

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]not a lot on pc looks better then gt5 . pc gaming is a head but unles you have a high end machine they are not far ahead at all .Gambler_1

Will most gamers prefer a HDTV over a high end rig?I dont think so.

People who have 1080p HDTV's and are only gaming on consoles are really kidding themselves.To really enjoy a 1080p HDTV for some gaming to it's potential,you need a PC and a pretty good one at that.

Gambler_1

So I'm not a gamer because I have an HDTV and a PS3 in it:lol: I've been playing games for 20 years and have probably played more PC games than a lot of hardcore hermits claimed to have. Just because I prefer to play my PC games on my laptop I'm not into PC gaming?

A quick lesson, The best looking games on a platform has never been the most hardcore games. Have you ever played Fallout 1, 2? Dungeon keeper? System Shock? Baldurs gate? These games was not pushing any hardware at the time they were released and yet you claim that you need a super gaming rig to be a real gamer:lol:

[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"][QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"]

[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="f50p90"]I've played games on my PC before, I prefer consoles. Simple as thatGambler_1

why is it that it seems every console fanboy has a 42" HDTV and than go on whining about the price of a PC :?

why do console fanboys believe hermits only buy pc's to play games? That is the point I'm trying to make here. You cannot say that the PC is expensive when it's just as much of a neccesity as a normal TV, up the price a bit and you will get just as much advantages from a normal pc to a high-end rig as a SD-TV to a HD-TV. In my case you get a gaming rig capable of playing all the latest games atleast on High.

People who have 1080p HDTV's and are only gaming on consoles are really kidding themselves.To really enjoy a 1080p HDTV for some gaming to it's potential,you need a PC and a pretty good one at that.

Come on man. I like PC gaming, as a matter of fact it's my platform of choice, but you have to let people like what they like too.

This is why people don't like PC gaming. PC snobs tell the console players they're "kidding themselves" or they "just don't understand". Now, there are just normal, healthy PC gamers...but I dunno.

And to answer your question, yes, gamers can and will choose an HDTV over a gaming rig for a number of reasons.

1. They don't like PC gaming
2. They don't like driver updates, incompatibility issues, Bsod's, and the overall hassle of PC over console, which is undisputable.
3. The games just don't appeal to them.
4. They like playing games at friends houses/enjoy console gaming more.

I myself would pick the gaming rig, and I have to deal with all those issues in #2 (as a matter of fact, my PC is broken right now), but that's what I accept, because I like PC gaming.

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Complexity, and I say that as a PC gamer. You can debate how expensive PCs are and what they can and cannot do, but at the end of the day the fact is it is much easier to set-up, play and maintain a console because of their unified architecture. While there are benefits to that complexity (upgradability, mods, community features, etc.) you cannot deny that it takes significantly longer to set up and maintain a PC than it does a console.Gambler_1

All you have to do is run defrag and virus scan every 3 months and you are fine and done with the maintainance.Every now and then just check out the latest graphics drivers and update them if new ones are available.There is nothing difficult in that.

360:

• Hook up cables (power, sound, video)
• Adjust settings
• Update console firmware
• Set-up XBL account
• Play game (may require automatic patching)
• Total Time: Approx 30 minutes

PC:

• Hook up cables (power and speakers)
• Install Windows
• Adjust settings
• Update Windows
• Update Drivers
• Install gaming software (ie Steam and similar services)
• Install games
• Patch games (some automatic, some manual)
• Total Time: 3-4 hours

Also consider that the PC requires more maintinence (ie continuously updating/patching). I'm not saying that the PC is an infinitely complex machine that only the hardcore could possibly figure out, in fact it is fairly easy to update and patch. But you cannot deny it takes much more time and effort to get a PC running and maintain it.

Will most gamers prefer a HDTV over a high end rig?I dont think so.

People who have 1080p HDTV's and are only gaming on consoles are really kidding themselves.To really enjoy a 1080p HDTV for some gaming to it's potential,you need a PC and a pretty good one at that.

Gambler_1

[QUOTE="Gambler_1"]

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Complexity, and I say that as a PC gamer. You can debate how expensive PCs are and what they can and cannot do, but at the end of the day the fact is it is much easier to set-up, play and maintain a console because of their unified architecture. While there are benefits to that complexity (upgradability, mods, community features, etc.) you cannot deny that it takes significantly longer to set up and maintain a PC than it does a console.PBSnipes

All you have to do is run defrag and virus scan every 3 months and you are fine and done with the maintainance.Every now and then just check out the latest graphics drivers and update them if new ones are available.There is nothing difficult in that.

360:

• Hook up cables (power, sound, video)
• Adjust settings
• Update console firmware
• Set-up XBL account
• Play game (may require automatic patching)
• Total Time: Approx 30 minutes

PC:

• Hook up cables (power and speakers)
• Install Windows
• Adjust settings
• Update Windows
• Update Drivers
• Install gaming software (ie Steam and similar services)
• Install games
• Patch games (some automatic, some manual)
• Total Time: 3-4 hours

Also consider that the PC requires more maintinence (ie continuously updating/patching). I'm not saying that the PC is an infinitely complex machine that only the hardcore could possibly figure out, in fact it is fairly easy to update and patch. But you cannot deny it takes much more time and effort to get a PC running and maintain it.

I prefer a high end pc than a console anyday, but i guess not everyone is willing to spend 3000$ on a pc to make the most of the games.TanKLoveR

Why does everyone inflate that number so high? lol

[QUOTE="f50p90"]I've played games on my PC before, I prefer consoles. Simple as thatGambler_1

plug and play ease of use. consoles have games that i prefer (yes, i know a lot of games are available on both, but often PC gamers have to wait for them). all of my friends are on xbox live. i work with computers all day; when i get home i don't want to use one for entertainment. i prefer Macs, which are obviously not gaming computers. i don't want to mess with building a gaming rig.

a few reasons for you. please keep in mind that this is my opinion only, and i'm not bashing PC gaming.

I just like the fact that any game I play on a console, the other 10 to 15 people playing online with me is on the same level of fairness. same controllers, same systems, same stability, frame rate issues. etc.

I played Ghost Recon with someone online once (PC) and I was making a plan on how to hit some bad guys on top of a hill, I told my partner to shoot the tango on the left and I would take the guy out on the right, poor guy typed back to me, I don't see anything on top of that hill cause my settings are very low. I have never had that problem playing Ghost Recon on a console.

thats just one of many reasons why I don't play on PC anymore, but my major issue is knowing that everyone you are playing with, can't possibly be playing with the same capabilities, where compared to consoles, the major difference will be how big your tv is or if you have surround sound, and only the surround sound can give an advantage, but thats about it.