Obviously GS wins in a credibility contest, however I have proven that they aren't 100% right. Which means neither me or GS can be used as a source, you have to play the game. What Im simply telling however is that I have played it and I havent gotten any FPS drops.Flexmaster_365You actually haven't proven anything at all. They experienced FPS drops. Thats a fact. Read their reviews. Your conjecture and annecdotal evidence doesn't do anything to disprove them.
How can anybody not like PC gaming?
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i like pc gaming, but i prefer to sit at my couch then in this uncomfortable chair.giancarlo123xYou can hook a PC up to a TV and play from a couch.
[QUOTE="giancarlo123x"]i like pc gaming, but i prefer to sit at my couch then in this uncomfortable chair.VandalvideoYou can hook a PC up to a TV and play from a couch.
KB/M are very bad on a couch. But then you can hook up a gamepad, but most PC games are not designed for gamepad use. But then again, you don't play an RTS at your couch. But then again, C&C 3 for Xbox 360 is a good game. Arhgah! *explodes*
You can hook a PC up to a TV and play from a couch.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="giancarlo123x"]i like pc gaming, but i prefer to sit at my couch then in this uncomfortable chair.Mythbuster4ever
KB/M are very bad on a couch. But then you can hook up a gamepad, but most PC games are not designed for gamepad use. But then again, you don't play an RTS at your couch. But then again, C&C 3 for Xbox 360 is a good game. Arhgah! *explodes*
Every single PC game I've ever played works fine with a gamepad except for WoW. (My priest takes way more micromanaging than can be achieved with a gamepad). I've played Civ, Starcraft, Diablo, etc all with a gamepad.You can hook a PC up to a TV and play from a couch.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="giancarlo123x"]i like pc gaming, but i prefer to sit at my couch then in this uncomfortable chair.Mythbuster4ever
KB/M are very bad on a couch. But then you can hook up a gamepad, but most PC games are not designed for gamepad use. But then again, you don't play an RTS at your couch. But then again, C&C 3 for Xbox 360 is a good game. Arhgah! *explodes*
Once it has game for windows on the Box of the game it automatically works with a 360 controller. It even has rumble! like Crysis.
[QUOTE="Mythbuster4ever"]You can hook a PC up to a TV and play from a couch.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="giancarlo123x"]i like pc gaming, but i prefer to sit at my couch then in this uncomfortable chair.Vandalvideo
KB/M are very bad on a couch. But then you can hook up a gamepad, but most PC games are not designed for gamepad use. But then again, you don't play an RTS at your couch. But then again, C&C 3 for Xbox 360 is a good game. Arhgah! *explodes*
Every single PC game I've ever played works fine with a gamepad except for WoW. (My priest takes way more micromanaging than can be achieved with a gamepad). I've played Civ, Starcraft, Diablo, etc all with a gamepad.Priest? Micromanaging?
I can grind with 1 button :P.
Raiding .. well that needs a mouse I guess.
[QUOTE="Mythbuster4ever"]You can hook a PC up to a TV and play from a couch.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="giancarlo123x"]i like pc gaming, but i prefer to sit at my couch then in this uncomfortable chair.Vandalvideo
KB/M are very bad on a couch. But then you can hook up a gamepad, but most PC games are not designed for gamepad use. But then again, you don't play an RTS at your couch. But then again, C&C 3 for Xbox 360 is a good game. Arhgah! *explodes*
Every single PC game I've ever played works fine with a gamepad except for WoW. (My priest takes way more micromanaging than can be achieved with a gamepad). I've played Civ, Starcraft, Diablo, etc all with a gamepad. did you actually win a match of starcraft with a gamepad ? :shock:[QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"]Obviously GS wins in a credibility contest, however I have proven that they aren't 100% right. Which means neither me or GS can be used as a source, you have to play the game. What Im simply telling however is that I have played it and I havent gotten any FPS drops.VandalvideoYou actually haven't proven anything at all. They experienced FPS drops. Thats a fact. Read their reviews. Your conjecture and annecdotal evidence doesn't do anything to disprove them.
I proved that they can be doubted as its not 100% that those FPS drops were seen because there very well could have been something wrong, they never list the testing conditions or when and where the FPS drops happened, they just say single player and multiplayer it could be anywwhere, theres no way to be 100% certain that those FPS drops are there. Anyway I never wanted to prove them wrong as I cant because they are more credible, I just wanted to show that its not 100% that they are right, the only way to get that is to play it yourself, and I have played it myself and I never got FPS drops.
proved that they can be doubted as its not 100% that those FPS drops were seen because there very well could have been something wrong, they never list the testing conditions or when and where the FPS drops happened, they just say single player and multiplayer it could be anywwhere, theres no way to be 100% certain that those FPS drops are there. Anyway I never wanted to prove them wrong as I cant because they are more credible, I just wanted to show that its not 100% that they are right, the only way to get that is to play it yourself, and I have played it myself and I never got FPS dropsFlexmaster_365How did you prove that they can be doubted? Is there past instances where they were unfaithful about FPS drops? Seems to me like they are pretty trustworthy. Unless, ofcourse, you have evidence that they are unfaithful about FPS drops. FACT: Gamespot experienced FPS drops in their games. That was the point of Skrat's post, to show that there are FPS drops in some 360 games. You have not disproven gamespot at all. As a matter of fact, gamespot > you as far as that goes. You haven't done anything to disprove them whatsoever.
Priest? Micromanaging? I can grind with 1 button :P. Raiding .. well that needs a mouse I guess. Meu2k7I play oldschool priest style with spreadhseets, scale grids, etc to know when and what to use.
[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]Priest? Micromanaging?
I can grind with 1 button :P.
Raiding .. well that needs a mouse I guess.
jangojay
When I raid with my paladin I have FOL/Holy Light/Bubble/DI on my bar lol
Too bad priests can't just spam one heal the entire time and be dandy. We're not mana resevoirs like paladins and have to scale, change, and mix our healing and know when to use what rank to make everything effective. Otherwise you run the risk of blowing your mana all over the bosses face and your guild whipes.[QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"] proved that they can be doubted as its not 100% that those FPS drops were seen because there very well could have been something wrong, they never list the testing conditions or when and where the FPS drops happened, they just say single player and multiplayer it could be anywwhere, theres no way to be 100% certain that those FPS drops are there. Anyway I never wanted to prove them wrong as I cant because they are more credible, I just wanted to show that its not 100% that they are right, the only way to get that is to play it yourself, and I have played it myself and I never got FPS dropsVandalvideoHow did you prove that they can be doubted? Is there past instances where they were unfaithful about FPS drops? Seems to me like they are pretty trustworthy. Unless, ofcourse, you have evidence that they are unfaithful about FPS drops. FACT: Gamespot experienced FPS drops in their games. That was the point of Skrat's post, to show that there are FPS drops in some 360 games. You have not disproven gamespot at all. As a matter of fact, gamespot > you as far as that goes. You haven't done anything to disprove them whatsoever.
They don't list the conditions of getting those drops thats the whole point, they could have done something wrong along the way and theres no way to know for certain to be 100% sure that the conditions were 100% appropriate, so I have shown that theres quite a bit of room of doubt, doubt that cant be overcome unless you play the game and see for yourself, and I have played the game and I have seen for myslef countless times that PDZ ran smooth as silk never dropping a frame.
They don't list the conditions of getting those drops thats the whole point, they could have done something wrong along the way and theres no way to know for certain to be 100% sure that the conditions were 100% appropriate, so I have shown that theres quite a bit of room of doubt, doubt that cant be overcome unless you play the game and see for yourself, and I have played the game and I have seen for myslef countless times that PDZ ran smooth as silk never dropping a frame. Flexmaster_365Onec again, unless you have proof that they are doing something wrong then we have no reason to ASSUME they are doing something wrong. They are a reliable game review site that has been doing game reviews for almost a decade now. I highly doubt they're running around on a phishing expedition looking for FPS drops. I ask you, show me proof or show me silence.
*Puts on his pep talk hat* PC gaming only seems complex, but trust me its nowhere near as complicated as people think it is. In the words of one of my previous ITT professors, "People are afraid of PCs because they think it will blow up in their face if they so much as touch it". All it takes to build a PC is a little common sense and the ability to read. If you can make toast, read a child's novel, and match alike things then you have the basic skillset to build a PC. All it takes is a few minutes of reading and you're set.I'd love to be a pc gamer, but at the moment i don't have to knowledge or the money to build one. I will one day though.
I guess some people are in the same boat as me and just prefer the simplicity of consoles.
SSJ_Nega
[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]Priest? Micromanaging?
I can grind with 1 button :P.
Raiding .. well that needs a mouse I guess.
jangojay
When I raid with my paladin I have FOL/Holy Light/Bubble/DI on my bar lol
Same pretty much, well its not my Paladin anymore, my mate plays it, shhh dont tell :P ( The Paladin in my Xfire )
[QUOTE="jangojay"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]Priest? Micromanaging?
I can grind with 1 button :P.
Raiding .. well that needs a mouse I guess.
Vandalvideo
When I raid with my paladin I have FOL/Holy Light/Bubble/DI on my bar lol
Too bad priests can't just spam one heal the entire time and be dandy. We're not mana resevoirs like paladins and have to scale, change, and mix our healing and know when to use what rank to make everything effective. Otherwise you run the risk of blowing your mana all over the bosses face and your guild whipes.You mean priests actually heal these days? :lol: here I thought 80% of raids spammed Shadow Priests "For teh mana regens n stuff!!11".
What happened to the Days when Priest greatly stood out in healing :(
[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="f50p90"]I've played games on my PC before, I prefer consoles. Simple as thatimprezawrx500No it's not as simple as that.Why do you prefer consoles give me a reason? I like sitting on my couch with my 42" HDTV. And I know you can connect a PC to it but what a pain in the ass if I had to move it everytime I went from gaming to homework, to using the internet. I don't have to worry about viruses killing my CONSOLE. It's less expensive. FRIENDS can come over and play with me, things of that nature...
[QUOTE="_Pedro_"]No it's not as simple as that.Why do you prefer consoles give me a reason? I like sitting on my couch with my 42" HDTV. And I know you can connect a PC to it but what a pain in the ass if I had to move it everytime I went from gaming to homework, to using the internet. I don't have to worry about viruses killing my CONSOLE. It's less expensive. FRIENDS can come over and play with me, things of that nature...[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="f50p90"]I've played games on my PC before, I prefer consoles. Simple as thatf50p90
why is it that it seems every console fanboy has a 42" HDTV and than go on whining about the price of a PC :?
I had 2 HDTVs before I bought my HD Consoles. I bought them for watching TV, not gamingand my cpu, ram, hdd, case, os, motherboard, isn't for gaming, so I guess that means my pc cost me $250 for gaming. find me a console that is under $250 and runs cod4 in 720p maxed out or runs stalker, crysis etc
if your going to use the argument I have a a hdtv, I can bet 80% of systemwars has a pc form the last year or so with a cpu that is pleanty good enough and the only thing the lacks is gpu so you can't say pc gaming is expencvie if you own a hdtv
I bet many people over here who call PC gaming expensive actually only need a GPU and power supply upgrade and maybe a stick of more ram and that's it they will have a pretty good gaming PC.I guess it's their loss.
You mean priests actually heal these days? :lol: here I thought 80% of raids spammed Shadow Priests "For teh mana regens n stuff!!11".What happened to the Days when Priest greatly stood out in healing :( Meu2k7Very few priests do. You have to practically be a masochist to enjoy healing as a priest. Thats why I go on three-four month long breaks at a time.
[QUOTE="SSJ_Nega"]*Puts on his pep talk hat* PC gaming only seems complex, but trust me its nowhere near as complicated as people think it is. In the words of one of my previous ITT professors, "People are afraid of PCs because they think it will blow up in their face if they so much as touch it". All it takes to build a PC is a little common sense and the ability to read. If you can make toast, read a child's novel, and match alike things then you have the basic skillset to build a PC. All it takes is a few minutes of reading and you're set.I'd love to be a pc gamer, but at the moment i don't have to knowledge or the money to build one. I will one day though.
I guess some people are in the same boat as me and just prefer the simplicity of consoles.
Vandalvideo
:P
In all honesty it's more to do with finding the right parts to build a pc with than actual putting it together. My dad was able to build his own pc and he barely knows anything about computers, so there's no doubt in my mind that i can build one:P
I am thinking about building one soon, as i'm about to leave school and i'll have 3 months before i go to college, so i could easily save up a build one, but like i said i wouldn't know where to start when it comes to looking for the right parts. I wouldn't be trying to build a pc that can play crysis, just one that can play some of todays games well and give me a good gaming experience.
I am thinking about building one soon, as i'm about to leave school and i'll have 3 months before i go to college, so i could easily save up a build one, but like i said i wouldn't know where to start when it comes to looking for the right parts. I wouldn't be trying to build a pc that can play crysis, just one that can play some of todays games well and give me a good gaming experience.SSJ_NegaThe hardware forums would be a good place to start. I buy all my parts from www.pricewatch.com You basically need a few things: Harddrive MOBO RAM CPU Graphics card Sound (Optional because of onboard) case CD drive Disc drive PSU (Most of the time they come with the case) All you need to do is make sure your MOBO supports the chipset of your CPU and the type of ram you're getting and you should be fine. (You can give the people in the hardware forums a list of parts and ask them to troubleshoot if you have further concerns). 600w PSU is preffered.
[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"][QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"]PC Gaming is expensive, complicated and most of the best games are on consoles so what is there to like?Flexmaster_365
a tiny bit more but $20 less per game quicly adds up, over 1 year the extra spend on console games = a new mainstream graphics card. plus you can't run photoshop on your xbox
$20 is nothing when you compare that to constant upgrades.
1 Year speed? Where most 90% of PC's still cant run or play COD4 or Gears, you need to spend $2000 or more.
Why the hell do I care about photoshop? I wanna play games...
Constant upgrades?Just like your constant console buying right?
:|
Besides a cheap gaming PC can run all games at highest of settings, bar Crysis....... GeOW and COD4 arent even system intensive games.... Surprise surprise really, the 360 is almost comparable to a low end gaming computer.
Yea constant upgrades every 6 months, and only $2000 PC's run COD4 and Gears as smooth as the 360. Plus 90% of PC owners cant even play Halo 2. :lol:
A $400 PC can max out COD4 in 720p with 100fps much better than the 360 and ps3.:lol:A $700 can max out COD4 in native 1080p for some elite gaming that consoles can never ever even dream off.
I just don't want to have a long think about when I have to consider whether my PC can run a game.elektrixxxIf you get a proper gaming PC you WONT have to think about not running a game for atleast 3 years unless ofcourse you try to game with intedrated graphics.:roll:
So you have a 42" HDTV and only give a 17" to your PC.:roll:I like PC gaming but prefer console gaming, and heres why:
Typical PC gaming for me goes like this,
I go upstairs to my PC desk, turn on the 17" LCD monitor and wait a minute or so for it to boot up , then shut down various things I dont need running. Start team speak and join the server then hide it. Put in the game and boot it up. I goto the server list and search for the server my freinds are on and join that game. I start to play. Half an hour goes by and my hands start cramping because I'm not that used to using a mouse and keyboard. Then my back starts to hurt from a couple hours sitting at a computer table. I also only have stereo speakers (which are ok but not ace) on my PC and after a couple hours I go back down watch tv because Ive had enough.
Typical 360 session goes like this:
Turn on my 360, press on on my 42" HD plasma and my 5.1 surround automatically boots up itself and sets to 360. I then grab a beer and stick my wireless headset on and sit back in my recliner. Tap 1 button to see who's on and another to join the game. Then I take a couple good drinks of my beer by which time the game is on and I'm off. I start to get tired so look at the clock and about 8 hours have gone by. I say see ya to my freinds and goto bed having had a cracking night of gaming and a laugh with my regular players.
For me, thats why console gaming is just better.
Cheers
the1stmoonfly
You have a recliner and then cant buy a comfy $150 chair for your PC.:roll:
You dont have to shut down any background programs and you can permanently shut down any program from running when you boot up.:roll:
I am sorry but you arent worth arguing.
[QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"][QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"]PC Gaming is expensive, complicated and most of the best games are on consoles so what is there to like?Gambler_1
a tiny bit more but $20 less per game quicly adds up, over 1 year the extra spend on console games = a new mainstream graphics card. plus you can't run photoshop on your xbox
$20 is nothing when you compare that to constant upgrades.
1 Year speed? Where most 90% of PC's still cant run or play COD4 or Gears, you need to spend $2000 or more.
Why the hell do I care about photoshop? I wanna play games...
Constant upgrades?Just like your constant console buying right?
:|
Besides a cheap gaming PC can run all games at highest of settings, bar Crysis....... GeOW and COD4 arent even system intensive games.... Surprise surprise really, the 360 is almost comparable to a low end gaming computer.
Yea constant upgrades every 6 months, and only $2000 PC's run COD4 and Gears as smooth as the 360. Plus 90% of PC owners cant even play Halo 2. :lol:
A $400 PC can max out COD4 in 720p with 100fps much better than the 360 and ps3.:lol:A $700 can max out COD4 in native 1080p for some elite gaming that consoles can never ever even dream off.
you mean a brand new pc ? 400$?
[QUOTE="Gambler_1"]Set up?Well probably yes but more difficult to maintain than a console well no not really.[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Complexity, and I say that as a PC gamer. You can debate how expensive PCs are and what they can and cannot do, but at the end of the day the fact is it is much easier to set-up, play and maintain a console because of their unified architecture. While there are benefits to that complexity (upgradability, mods, community features, etc.) you cannot deny that it takes significantly longer to set up and maintain a PC than it does a console.bawathegamer
All you have to do is run defrag and virus scan every 3 months and you are fine and done with the maintainance.Every now and then just check out the latest graphics drivers and update them if new ones are available.There is nothing difficult in that.
lol.virus scan every 3 months? whoa! i hope you meant 3 days( i do it daily).
on topic.if i had the cash i would buy the most awesome pc RIGHT NOW .but i would still buy consoles! .i do however have a really old pc that plays games pre-2003. as oflate(last 2months) i have been diving into retro pc gaming and its been a blast.these games :thief1,thief2,deus ex,curse of monkey island,escape from monkey island,command and conquer first decade(bought it today),starcraft battlechest(got it last week),warcraft 3 battechest,aoe2,got grim fandango today(hope it works),monopoly tycoon(why dont hermits ever mention tycoon games.id use that as an advantage over consoles.tycoons rock!) and many many more.
i havent picked up my consoles(last gen) since 2 months!i would really love to play the orange box,crysis,cod4,some of the latest rts' .........but i cant afford to at the moment.
pc games are the kings of tycoon,rts(dont even debate this one) and fps(though i enjoy alot of shooter on consoles too(360 only).but since the 360 controller is compatible with pc its making it very difficult for me to not to go in for a major pc upgrade.price scares me though because id have to buy every part new(i have a 5 year old pc).i think id have to pay atleast 800$ for all brand new parts.hopefully in the near future.sad thing is so many good console ports onthe pc have terrible bugs(look at gears....its a bugfest onthe pc,look at re4,ff7,ff8).
as for your question tc......its just a matter of prefernce and affordability.i will never play a fighting,racing or action adventure on the pc.
Why the hell would you not play a racing,fighting or action game on the PC.That's the dumbest thing I have heard in a long while.
And virus scan every 3 days what?:?
Anybody buying a 360 NOW WONT be playing new games for the next 4-5 years.2 years is probably when the next xbox comes and DANG you have to "upgrade".WIth a PC there is no such thing as an immediate shift and you will be able to easily play games with a smooth framerate for the next 3 years if you buy a good gaming PC NOW.Here are my reasons:
1- With a console, you are certain to be able to play every game that is released on that console, but with a PC, you constatly have to upgrade to assure a good quality gameplay. (of course you might say financial issue is not a good reason, but not everyone can afford a gaming PC) You buy a console, you're good untill the next gen, wich is usually what, 4-5 years at least?
2- At any given time, i prefer the comfort of a couch, and the quality of a good HD TV, instead of sitting on a chair 20 inches away from a computer screen.
3- The game library, of course. I know that some games released on consoles do end up on PC, but it always takes a while. I want to be able to play the good games when they are released, not a year later because by then, something new will be out.
4- TBH, I really prefer the console gaming experience.
There you go.
Hawkeye1987
[QUOTE="SSJ_Nega"]I am thinking about building one soon, as i'm about to leave school and i'll have 3 months before i go to college, so i could easily save up a build one, but like i said i wouldn't know where to start when it comes to looking for the right parts. I wouldn't be trying to build a pc that can play crysis, just one that can play some of todays games well and give me a good gaming experience.VandalvideoThe hardware forums would be a good place to start. I buy all my parts from www.pricewatch.com You basically need a few things: Harddrive MOBO RAM CPU Graphics card Sound (Optional because of onboard) case CD drive Disc drive PSU (Most of the time they come with the case) All you need to do is make sure your MOBO supports the chipset of your CPU and the type of ram you're getting and you should be fine. (You can give the people in the hardware forums a list of parts and ask them to troubleshoot if you have further concerns). 600w PSU is preffered.
Thanks!
I will hopefully be building it within the next few months, and i'm sure the guys in the hardware forums can help me out!
I'll let you know how it turns out.
[QUOTE="bawathegamer"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"]Set up?Well probably yes but more difficult to maintain than a console well no not really.[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Complexity, and I say that as a PC gamer. You can debate how expensive PCs are and what they can and cannot do, but at the end of the day the fact is it is much easier to set-up, play and maintain a console because of their unified architecture. While there are benefits to that complexity (upgradability, mods, community features, etc.) you cannot deny that it takes significantly longer to set up and maintain a PC than it does a console.Gambler_1
All you have to do is run defrag and virus scan every 3 months and you are fine and done with the maintainance.Every now and then just check out the latest graphics drivers and update them if new ones are available.There is nothing difficult in that.
lol.virus scan every 3 months? whoa! i hope you meant 3 days( i do it daily).
on topic.if i had the cash i would buy the most awesome pc RIGHT NOW .but i would still buy consoles! .i do however have a really old pc that plays games pre-2003. as oflate(last 2months) i have been diving into retro pc gaming and its been a blast.these games :thief1,thief2,deus ex,curse of monkey island,escape from monkey island,command and conquer first decade(bought it today),starcraft battlechest(got it last week),warcraft 3 battechest,aoe2,got grim fandango today(hope it works),monopoly tycoon(why dont hermits ever mention tycoon games.id use that as an advantage over consoles.tycoons rock!) and many many more.
i havent picked up my consoles(last gen) since 2 months!i would really love to play the orange box,crysis,cod4,some of the latest rts' .........but i cant afford to at the moment.
pc games are the kings of tycoon,rts(dont even debate this one) and fps(though i enjoy alot of shooter on consoles too(360 only).but since the 360 controller is compatible with pc its making it very difficult for me to not to go in for a major pc upgrade.price scares me though because id have to buy every part new(i have a 5 year old pc).i think id have to pay atleast 800$ for all brand new parts.hopefully in the near future.sad thing is so many good console ports onthe pc have terrible bugs(look at gears....its a bugfest onthe pc,look at re4,ff7,ff8).
as for your question tc......its just a matter of prefernce and affordability.i will never play a fighting,racing or action adventure on the pc.
Why the hell would you not play a racing,fighting or action game on the PC.That's the dumbest thing I have heard in a long while.
And virus scan every 3 days what?:?
my post was quite in favour of pc gaming(didnt you read my first paragraph??).....i dont use racing wheels...i guess i could play racers on pc considering the 360 controller supprts them......ive just always played this genre on console,why would i play a fighting game on pc?(some great ones arent even on the pc) no specific reason for not playing action adventures on pc.usually come first on consoles plus im used to playing them on consoles.......plus alot of action adventures are console exclusive( gow,uncharted,r and c,jak,ninja gaiden etc etc,re4 took way to long to come on pc and was a horendous port,etc etc. )
are these reasons dumb? stop being a delusional hermit.i didnt bash the pc at all in my post
who the hell scans their pc for virus' every 3months? are you deranged? unless you dont surf the net with that pc....not scanning is way too risky....i do mine automatically at 8 am daily......its got me out of some sticky situations....jeesh.3months.lol
who the hell scans their pc for virus' every 3months? are you deranged? unless you dont surf the net with that pc....not scanning is way too risky....i do mine automatically at 8 am daily......its got me out of some sticky situations....jeesh.3months.lol bawathegamerI very rarely scan for viruses. The only way you're even going to get a virus is if you go to malicious sites or open anonymous e-mail.
The framerate issues in HL2 on the xbox were certainly gameplay affecting and overall really annoying.They got in the way and ruined some of the best moments of the game.if theres one thing i dislike about pc gamers/magazines etc is the obsessionwith frame rate.wtf? if it doesnt hinder gameplay thats all that matter.i hate graphic *****s.my pc runs maxpayne on 25 fps.
im just trying to make a point that a majority of gamers could care less about frames per second and high settings as long as its playable. i love half life 2 and played it on the original xbox.i didnt complain.i loved the game.i went out and bought half life 1 plus all its mods for my pc.
bawathegamer
Dear God you can buy a 42" HDTV and have a problem buying a new graphics card.:|:|I was a big PC gamer in to 90's and early 2000's but I have to admit with the difference in graphics power from PC's and consoles not an issue anymore and great FPS's on consoles the ease of console gaming made me switch. I can have a quick blast on a 42" HDTV but always feel if I start up a PC game I have to dedicate hours to it. I haven't bought a new PC game since Half Life 2. Also the need to upgarde a graphics card became a pain in the end. I would love to play Crysis but as you can see from my Sig I'd need a new grahocs card.
Still PC gaming has a special place in my heart going back to my Amiga, my first 486 75Mhz PC at Uni in the mid 90's playing Wolfenstein and the first time I played a game using my Voodoo 2 GPU and was blown away.
soulfinger
You can't get a good gaming PC for the same price as a console in most countries anyways. A friend of mine used close to 4000$ on his new gaming PC. I would never use so much money on something unstable as a PC. I use my comp for all the normal stuff, and then use my console for games and media center. Martin_G_NHe overpayed. A PC equiavelent to consoles only costsa bout 650-700 USD. In Europe, even where hardware is more expensive, the games are nearly HALF the price of console games. Game prices amke up for a lot of the price change.
You can't get a good gaming PC for the same price as a console in most countries anyways. A friend of mine used close to 4000$ on his new gaming PC. I would never use so much money on something unstable as a PC. I use my comp for all the normal stuff, and then use my console for games and media center. Martin_G_N
Hmm? Down here consoles cost 950-1kUS :S
[QUOTE="bawathegamer"]The framerate issues in HL2 on the xbox were certainly gameplay affecting and overall really annoying.They got in the way and ruined some of the best moments of the game.if theres one thing i dislike about pc gamers/magazines etc is the obsessionwith frame rate.wtf? if it doesnt hinder gameplay thats all that matter.i hate graphic *****s.my pc runs maxpayne on 25 fps.
im just trying to make a point that a majority of gamers could care less about frames per second and high settings as long as its playable. i love half life 2 and played it on the original xbox.i didnt complain.i loved the game.i went out and bought half life 1 plus all its mods for my pc.
Gambler_1
maybe to you.....but because i didnt have a pc capable of running the game i played it on the xbox.other than the frame drop immediatly after the loading sequences it was quite good.i never got frustrated and didnt think it hindered the game.(what i consider good..is definatly not the same as what you would consider good) .
did you actually play the entire game on the xbox ? im not debating the xbox version is great but i had no problems with it even though the pc version is light years ahead preformance wise.as i mentioned i played maxpayne 1 at 25 fps tops on my pc .......i dont mind.....didnt hinder the game for me at all.i play warcraft 3 alot and i get fps in 20's.i barely care.i loved the game nontheless. i became a fan of hl after playing it on the xbox.bought hl1 and all its mods on pc.
[QUOTE="bawathegamer"]on par with consoles......um no. i mean i want a GOOD pc that would last me 2-3 years running games at moderatly high settings(i have no interest in being able to run crysis.i dont have that kind of budget.).ok lets say we exlude.....kb/m ,moniter,speakers and os.i just need the main cpu.(all new parts) how much would that cost.650$ seems too less.are you talking about prices in the states? pentium? isnt that completley outdated....(pardon my ignorance).would that setup run anything from last year on high setting? i want the pricepoint of a pc that would run all of last years games really well(medium high setting).would it still be 650$. a link or pm would be much appreciated. VandalvideoModerately high setings? Why are you even bringing that filth into this conversation? "Consoles are equivalent to low-mid end PCs" -Epic. Of course a PC that outperforms consoles will cost more. This is a given. Ceteris Paribus, keeping all things equal, the PC is about as cheap as if not more cheap than consoles. A PC with a 7900GS, 2GIGS DDR2 RAM, and a Pentium D945 will provide graphics on par with and better than consoles for the duration of the generation at an equiavelent price to consoles. That rig, including an operating system and KB/m will only cost about 650-700 dollars. IF you want to include the price of a monitor then include the price of a television with consoles. A pentium 945D is on par with or better than an E6600. The machine I provided runs ALL modern games on atleast medium high settings, and probably will play games on medium high for the duration of the generation. If you want a link, just go to www.pricewatch.com You are not ready, end of story. You can build a rig for slightly more than a console with graphics ON PAR WITH a console that stays that way for the remainder of the generation for just 650-700 dollars, which includes ALL the ammenities required to play the game. End of story.I am sorry but what are you saying as you are really giving bad advice.You are not at all aware of PC hardware.
In $700 you can build a PC that DESTROYS any console.It will have an 8800GT and a core 2 CPU and BTW the E6600 completely destroys the pentium D.Neither the 7900GS and pentium D are worthwhile products anymore.They are still good for games but if somebody is buying new parts than those products are simply not worth buying becasue there are much better products in the market now.
And to the user above yes in $600 you can make a DAMN GOOD PC trust me.It will beat any console and wont just be on par with them.It will "easily" play crysis in high settings in 720p.Seriously just make a topic in the PC hardware forum and they will gladly help you.
There are simple facts about the greatness of PC gaming and people who consider themselves hardcore gamers and are not a PC gamer are only kidding themselves.Some simple facts about PC gaming.
1.You can play most of the games with either a gamepad or keyboard/mouse.That is such a great option that I cannot stress the importance off.
2.The PC has undisputedly the best games library in comparasion to any other gaming platform.
3.The PC provides better FPS,RTS and MMORPG experience than all the other gaming platforms in the world combined.
4.The PC has easily the best graphics.Even if you are a budget gamer you will still be mostly ahead of consoles in terms of graphics.The budget card of last gen the 8600GT is almost as good if not better than any of the current consoles.The budget card of today the 9600GT available for only $110 easily and unarguably destroys any of the current consoles in graphics performance.
5.You can play games without having to swap discs on the PC.With a console when you want to play another game you have to get up and change a disc.With the PC it's only a few clicks away and you would already be playing another game in a matter of seconds.
6.The PC is "fully compatable" with any single display in the world be it SDTV,HDTV,CRT monitor or LCD monitor.Consoles cannot use CRT monitors for HD gaming as they dont support them and consoles donot "natively" support most LCD monitors so you are missing out on picture quality.
7.You can use a myraid of different gamepads,keyboards and mice with the PC and there are so many of these that you are bound to like something that really fits your needs almost 100%.What do I do if I dont like the PS3 controller?On the PC it's not even an issue but tell me please what do I do if I want to play PS3 and dont like the sixaxis?
8.The PC has MODS which I really cant explain to you and you really wont get to know there awesomeness unless you actually experience this side of PC gaming.
9.Now unless you decide to get a new OS as soon as it comes and dont dual boot a previous version,you will get almost 100% backwards compatability that no other console can even think about.Yes I know it isnt exactly 100% but still there are ways around when you cant run a really old game.Basically with the PC you have at your disposal more than 20 years of gaming,and you dont have to buy classics again as console gamers do as you can just use your old collection in it's raw form even be it in a floopy disk.
So these are all facts as to the greatness of PC gaming and people who are not a PC gamer are only missing out.In terms of features split-screen gaming is the absolute only thing that console gaming has over PC gaming.
Can anybody give me a reason as to why they dont like PC gaming?
Gambler_1
agree with most things, and btw all high-end cards released after 2004 are technically better than the 360/PS3.
i played on a pc (MMO) for the longest time but then moved back to consoles. For some reason PC gaming just sucks. Most of the games online (like FPS or RPG) dont feel nearly as immersive as a console. And if you get one virus or keylogger your basically **** esp if you play an MMO. But i do envy that PCs get free mods. Thats always nice. And again PCs are too expensive. 110 bucks for the graphics card. Ok... so the rest of the PC will cost you less than 190? Cuz then itll be the same price as the PS3 but not nearly as powerful. and PCs do not have good BC esp Vista. Dual booting is like keeping your old console around just for those old games so theres no pros there.
Oh and i realize that people have computers to upgrade the graphics card and theyll be set but then theres the biggest issue of computer gaming and computers themselves. Windows is horrible.
i played on a pc (MMO) for the longest time but then moved back to consoles. For some reason PC gaming just sucks.beinss
Opinion
Most of the games online (like FPS or RPG) dont feel nearly as immersive as a console.
beinss
Opinion
And if you get one virus or keylogger your basically **** esp if you play an MMO.
beinss
Your fault. Keyloggers don't just jump on to your computer, they get there out of user error.
But i do envy that PCs get free mods. Thats always nice. And again PCs are too expensive. 110 bucks for the graphics card. Ok... so the rest of the PC will cost you less than 190? Cuz then itll be the same price as the PS3 but not nearly as powerful. and PCs do not have good BC esp Vista. Dual booting is like keeping your old console around just for those old games so theres no pros there.
Oh and i realize that people have computers to upgrade the graphics card and theyll be set but then theres the biggest issue of computer gaming and computers themselves. Windows is horrible.
beinss
I personally won't spend less than 1k on a PC, but in my country consoles are more expensive. The systems cost as much as a high end pc and the games cost 2 times as much. Windows isn't horrible I have no clue what you are talking about.
PC games are now MUH MORE controller friendly than ever.Even many FPS's have out of the box support for controllers like bioshock and crysis.Easily. They prefer a controller and prefer to not ever have to mess with graphics settings, just plug in and play.
Wasdie
Now unless you must want to get the absolute best graphics\performance ratio you dont really have to fiddle with the settings all that much as the recommeded settings are adequate.
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