How can anybody not like PC gaming?

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#351 Vandalvideo
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then you should stick to console gameing because apparently there is no games coming out that you'll like. They are hardware crushing.. they need SHADER POWER like I said and you don't have that. just because crysis cane out and has a big GPU requrement dosent mean it will be the biggest requrement... JEEZ most of those games will RECCOMEND a 9800GTX. if you live your ife playing crysis and that is your only game then I feel sorry for the person who COULD HAVE owned and upgraded your pc, seems like such a waste.TrooperManaic
There are plenty of games coming out that I will like. RTS, adventure, and MMO games are my bread and butter. I'll be playing Warhammer Online, Starcraft 2, and many more in the coming months. I just recently got The Experiment, Supreme Commander, Sins of a Solar Empire, and Audiosurf. ALl of these games can be maxed out with my game. The 7900GS will be able to play the vast majority of the games that you listed on great settings with decent FPS. None of them are anywhere near the technological beast that Crysis is. I have absolutely no reason to upgrade right now, and if I was upgrading I'd choose a 7900GS over a 9600GT any day given my predicament.
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#352 kage_53
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1.You can play most of the games with either a gamepad or keyboard/mouse.That is such a great option that I cannot stress the importance off. Gambler3

Consoles can do things like that too. I have an arcade stick for my PS2.

2.The PC has undisputedly the best games library in comparasion to any other gaming platform.Gambler3

It all depends on what game genre's you play the most which leads me too.....

3.The PC provides better FPS,RTS and MMORPG experience than all the other gaming platforms in the world combined.Gambler3

And consoles provide better racing, action, fighting games and sports games then pc's do.



4.The PC has easily the best graphics.Even if you are a budget gamer you will still be mostly ahead of consoles in terms of graphics.The budget card of last gen the 8600GT is almost as good if not better than any of the current consoles.The budget card of today the 9600GT available for only $110 easily and unarguably destroys any of the current consoles in graphics performance.Gambler3

...............Dont care about graphics. Even as a PC gamer I'll stick with my 512MB X1900XTX until I actually need to upgrade. And besides I never like Nvidia products.

5.You can play games without having to swap discs on the PC.With a console when you want to play another game you have to get up and change a disc.With the PC it's only a few clicks away and you would already be playing another game in a matter of seconds.Gambler3

There are PC games that use multiple discs and after that comes the hdd installation process

6.The PC is "fully compatable" with any single display in the world be it SDTV,HDTV,CRT monitor or LCD monitor.Consoles cannot use CRT monitors for HD gaming as they dont support them and consoles donot "natively" support most LCD monitors so you are missing out on picture quality.Gambler3

Who cares.. I dont have the space for CRT monitors and I use my HDTV for watching TV not playing games on it

7.You can use a myraid of different gamepads,keyboards and mice with the PC and there are so many of these that you are bound to like something that really fits your needs almost 100%.What do I do if I dont like the PS3 controller?On the PC it's not even an issue but tell me please what do I do if I want to play PS3 and dont like the sixaxis?Gambler3

You get the Dualshock 3..

8.The PC has MODS which I really cant explain to you and you really wont get to know there awesomeness unless you actually experience this side of PC gaming.Gambler3

UT3 on the PS3 has that.

9.Now unless you decide to get a new OS as soon as it comes and dont dual boot a previous version,you will get almost 100% backwards compatability that no other console can even think about.Yes I know it isnt exactly 100% but still there are ways around when you cant run a really old game.Basically with the PC you have at your disposal more than 20 years of gaming,and you dont have to buy ****cs again as console gamers do as you can just use your old collection in it's raw form even be it in a floopy disk. Gambler3

When I buy a new console I play its games not the previous system's games on it.

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#353 TrooperManaic
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[QUOTE="Gambler_1"]Errr where did you assume that anybody is saying that you or anyone with a 7900GS should upgrade to a 9600GT.:? hat we are saying is IF you are buying a new card and a new PC then buying a 7900GS is foolish cuz 9600GT has much better "price performance".Vandalvideo
Once again, there are no games out or on the horrizon that require me (or anyone else for that matter) to have a 9600Gt over a 7900GS. Will you get more FPS? Sure, but if you don't have Vista you can get by with a 7900GS getting near max settings on great FPS without much fidelity loss. There is absolutely NO REASON except for NEGLIGBLE FPS INCREASE to choose a 9600GT over a 7900GS. Your longevity arguement doesn't even have any games to back it up. Had there been any more games on the horizon more demanding or more advanced than Crysis that mayhave changed.

I am finished talking to you.. you seem to know NOTHING about videocards.. sure fps blah blah Bulls#!%... does that mean youll have the same fps forever.. no youll dip lower then that... its better to gear up before you go out. please do your homework before you challenge a veteran.
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#354 Vandalvideo
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The difference between the 2 cards is playing crysis,farc cry 2 and many other games in high settings instead of medium settings.:roll:The difference is having the ability to play your games in loads of AA and AF.I am sorry but you are just stupid and I am not gonna bother with you again.Gambler_1
I already said that I can play Crysis in medium-high settings without much fidelity loss from high settings at about 30-45 FPS. There are no games coming out that are more advanced than Crysis, and there are none on the horizon. Thus I have absolutely no reason to get any of the cards you mentioned.
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#355 Vandalvideo
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I am finished talking to you.. you seem to know NOTHING about videocards.. sure fps blah blah Bulls#!%... does that mean youll have the same fps forever.. no youll dip lower then that... its better to gear up before you go out. please do your homework before you challenge a veteran.TrooperManaic
Scare tactics. There aren't any games that I see on the horizon that are more technologically advanced than Crysis that will require an upgrade anytime soon. When that time comes, I will bite the bullet and upgrade. However, there are NO games on the horizon that will require any kinds of upgrades. I am the veteran.
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#356 TrooperManaic
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[QUOTE="TrooperManaic"] I am finished talking to you.. you seem to know NOTHING about videocards.. sure fps blah blah Bulls#!%... does that mean youll have the same fps forever.. no youll dip lower then that... its better to gear up before you go out. please do your homework before you challenge a veteran.Vandalvideo
Scare tactics. There aren't any games that I see on the horizon that are more technologically advanced than Crysis that will require an upgrade anytime soon. When that time comes, I will bite the bullet and upgrade. However, there are NO games on the horizon that will require any kinds of upgrades. I am the veteran.

ok buddy.. I wasn't trying to make you upgrade I was just trying to let you know the benefits of today's new GPU's and hopefully you would have acknowledged that though you haven't so I will leave it at that before I become frustrated and loose my trust of the people who look up to me.
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#357 Vandalvideo
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ok buddy.. I wasn't trying to make you upgrade I was just trying to let you know the benefits of today's new GPU's and hopefully you would have acknowledged that though you haven't so I will leave it at that before I become frustrated and loose my trust of the people who look up to me.TrooperManaic
Uhh I've acknowledged that those GPUs provide higher FPS like atleast ten times now. I just said that I have absolutely no reason to actively seek those higher FPS.
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#358 darkmagician06
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I love pc gaming...and have had the best experiences on there.
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#359 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

You are also immature?

And you cant find another image to compliment your own comment?

Perfect Dark Zero from the Gamespot review

"You might also see the game's frame rate take a dive during particularly hairy multiplayer shoot-outs, though this also happens on occasion in the mission mode."

yes they do.

You have proved yourself wrong again.

This is just getting embarassing.

Why dont you go and play elsewhere, as there is no point even arguing against you anymore. You are doing all your own work for me. Whats the point trying.

Flexmaster_365

Quiet the opposite you are doing the work for me, looking for links and text that disprove my statements which you obviously cant. Dont you see that GS doesent even say where exactly the frame rate dips in the single player, that is very strange that they dont give you a specific part, especialy since I have never seen that fram rate drop that they speak of. As I said theres no way to prove that they are 100% right, to me they are 100% wrong obviously, but there is just no way that you can say that they are 100% right. Obviouly theres a reasonable chance that they may have done something wrong. I never se this frame rate drop as well as my friends.

1. It says the frame rate "take a dive during particularly hairy multiplayer shoot-outs, though this also happens on occasion in the mission mode."

Do you expect them to revist the game and point out each specific event where the frame rate was choppy?

:|

Bravo on proving your ignorance levels again

You and your friends are just as equally ignorant as eachother, and opinion counts for nothing, just like any user, compared to a review posted on this site.

PDZ, DiRT, Full Auto, Quake 4, Bully, Two Worlds, Mass Effect ect. All had frame rates that dipped and dived, and going by your logic at the start of the thread the 360 must be a terrible gaming machine because of it.

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#360 Pro_wrestler
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I like PC gaming, I just think Console gaming is better, which it is.
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#361 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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I dont crare for PC gameing seeing IMO theres only one worthwhile titles thats exclusively on it (starcraft 2)

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#362 Kh1ndjal
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a lot of people will pay a ton of money to get a 42" HDTV, "cause i dont just play games on it", but say that pc gaming is expensive.

see i was under the impression that the PC can be used to watch tv. and that some chairs are more comfortable than couches. and that you do not need to be a rocket science to be able to hook up your pc to your tv.

also, some of you say that $150 gpu is unable to run crysis on max with 32 AA. but why would you buy one? since youre happy with the inferior graphics of consoles, what's wrong with playing on the same graphics on pc...

i do agree, however, that some genres are based primarily on consoles but thats about it. that is just a genre preference. i see no other reason to dislike pc gaming.

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#363 lowe0
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i do agree, however, that some genres are based primarily on consoles but thats about it. that is just a genre preference. i see no other reason to dislike pc gaming.

Kh1ndjal

Except it's not enough not to dislike PC gaming - the first post in this very thread says that console-only gamers are "kidding themselves", and it only goes downhill in other threads around here, as console gamers are derided as being poor, being too stupid to build a PC or play PC games, being a newb to PC gaming, etc.. Even when you point out that you have some experience, or that you own a PC, you'll be called a liar.

Having a reasonable, well-backed-up preference doesn't seem to be enough for the zealots around here.

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[QUOTE="Gambler3 "]

1.You can play most of the games with either a gamepad or keyboard/mouse.That is such a great option that I cannot stress the importance off. kage_53

Consoles can do things like that too. I have an arcade stick for my PS2.

And arcade stick=MK? Since when?

2.The PC has undisputedly the best games library in comparasion to any other gaming platform.Gambler3

It all depends on what game genre's you play the most which leads me too.....

Ill agree partly to that....



3.The PC provides better FPS,RTS and MMORPG experience than all the other gaming platforms in the world combined.Gambler3

And consoles provide better racing, action, fighting games and sports games then pc's do.

PC has sport games like PES2008 and its nect gen version...plus PC dominates Racing Sims and Sports Managment...



4.The PC has easily the best graphics.Even if you are a budget gamer you will still be mostly ahead of consoles in terms of graphics.The budget card of last gen the 8600GT is almost as good if not better than any of the current consoles.The budget card of today the 9600GT available for only $110 easily and unarguably destroys any of the current consoles in graphics performance.Gambler3

...............Dont care about graphics. Even as a PC gamer I'll stick with my 512MB X1900XTX until I actually need to upgrade. And besides I never like Nvidia products.

Neither do I its just that on PC graphics/physics are part of the gameplay Crysis...

5.You can play games without having to swap discs on the PC.With a console when you want to play another game you have to get up and change a disc.With the PC it's only a few clicks away and you would already be playing another game in a matter of seconds.Gambler3

There are PC games that use multiple discs and after that comes the hdd installation process

He sais potato and you say orange....PC games install ONCE and then you save huge amount of time by not swapping disks...games play on the HDD...and load much faster than the consoles...

6.The PC is "fully compatable" with any single display in the world be it SDTV,HDTV,CRT monitor or LCD monitor.Consoles cannot use CRT monitors for HD gaming as they dont support them and consoles donot "natively" support most LCD monitors so you are missing out on picture quality.Gambler3

Who cares.. I dont have the space for CRT monitors and I use my HDTV for watching TV not playing games on it

Keyword....

7.You can use a myraid of different gamepads,keyboards and mice with the PC and there are so many of these that you are bound to like something that really fits your needs almost 100%.What do I do if I dont like the PS3 controller?On the PC it's not even an issue but tell me please what do I do if I want to play PS3 and dont like the sixaxis?Gambler3

You get the Dualshock 3..

PC can get Wiimote Dualshock3 Xbox360 controller practically any gaming inpute device known to man....

8.The PC has MODS which I really cant explain to you and you really wont get to know there awesomeness unless you actually experience this side of PC gaming.Gambler3

UT3 on the PS3 has that.

Just LOL..any total conversions? No? How sad....

9.Now unless you decide to get a new OS as soon as it comes and dont dual boot a previous version,you will get almost 100% backwards compatability that no other console can even think about.Yes I know it isnt exactly 100% but still there are ways around when you cant run a really old game.Basically with the PC you have at your disposal more than 20 years of gaming,and you dont have to buy ****cs again as console gamers do as you can just use your old collection in it's raw form even be it in a floopy disk. Gambler3

When I buy a new console I play its games not the previous system's games on it.

Again keyword...

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I like PC gaming, I just think Console gaming is better, which it is.Pro_wrestler

Console gaming isn't better on paper, if that's what you mean.

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#366 skrat_01
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I like PC gaming, I just think Console gaming is better, which it is.Pro_wrestler
In your mind ;)
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#367 shadowcat2576
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I didn't read through this thread, so I'll just give you my opinion and reasons why I switched from PC gaming to consoles, and it can be summed up in one word, EASE.

Now to be honest, it's been a loooong time since I gamed heavily on a computer. I used to have tons of C64 games but only ever got a few dozen games on my PC, mostly around the time Myst was really big. Consoles are just more convienant to use, you pop in a cart or disc and start playing (although thats starting to change) You don't have to compare specs before you buy a game, or upgrade to make sure you can play the latest games. I also resented having to buy a controller for the computer if I wanted to play some of the games I liked.

I can see where PC gaming can give those that enjoy it a very different and enjoyable experience from us console gamers, but a lot of the reasons are just lost on me. I wouldn't use mods, I dislike dlc, and I don't really enjoy the types of games that the PC excells at.

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#368 skrat_01
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I can see where PC gaming can give those that enjoy it a very different and enjoyable experience from us console gamers, but a lot of the reasons are just lost on me. I wouldn't use mods, I dislike dlc, and I don't really enjoy the types of games that the PC excells at.

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I wish more console only gamers would give reasonable responses like this more often
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#369 angryfodder
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I think the PC is the ultimate machine for getting the best gaming experience. Anything a console can do, chances are it can be done on the PC, better. (The wii being the exception to the rule I guess)

HOWEVER - i want an easy life - I mean hell, thats why I play games in the first place. If I was into crap like configuring PC's, I do it for a living and get paid for it. I want the most complicated game setup procedure to be nothing more than getting a game out of that annoying plastic packaging and sticking it in the disk drive.

It even annoys me that I have to install the MS updates every once and a while.

So - yes, PC gaming is the best, if you can be bothered.

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#370 jangojay
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Honestly if consoles got PC like support/community/mods I'd be there but since it doesn't I'll stick to PC as my main platform, the enjoyment to cost ratio for consoles just isn't favourable (for me). That's probably also due to the fact I can't rent games lol.
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#371 blizzle
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In my opinon there is 3 reasons why someone would not like PC gaming. They are either uninformed, casual or lazy.
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#372 jangojay
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In my opinon there is 3 reasons why someone would not like PC gaming. They are either uninformed, casual or lazy.blizzle

Or they don't like the games that thrive there or just don't want to put out the extra for a gaming pc or just like plug and play. I dunno it could be any of those.

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#373 Pro_wrestler
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Console gaming isn't better on paper, if that's what you mean.

aliblabla2007

Sorry, but I don't reveiw some technical schematics before I buy a platform. I buy into a platform based on the games they offer, which is why your technical jargon holds no weight with me. Bye-->

In your mind ;)
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Which is all that matters ;)

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#374 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]In your mind ;)
Pro_wrestler

Which is all that matters ;)

Got me there :P
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#375 Pro_wrestler
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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]In your mind ;)
skrat_01

Which is all that matters ;)

Got me there :P

Psst. PC gaming is fine, I love the freedom

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#376 xscrapzx
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Because people just dont like certain things, it is a very argumentive thing. People don't like certain things because of taste regardless of how good something is. On top of that why does it matter to you if people like pc gaming or not? You still have fun playing on it right? So just live with it and be happy that you got a group of people you play with or games that you enjoy playing on a pc. Simple as that.
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#377 Re5ident_Evil
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Not having your favorite game series is a good reason. especially since PC has almost no current game series when compared to consoles/handhelds...
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#378 anshul89
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Not having your favorite game series is a good reason. especially since PC has almost no current game series when compared to consoles/handhelds...Re5ident_Evil
lol. wok7, is that you ?
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#379 TrooperManaic
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I like PC gaming, I just think Console gaming is better, which it is.Pro_wrestler
no it really isn't I have been in multiple clans on pc games and what I can say is that no matter what game it it if you play with people you know it will be the challenge of a lifetime and if you have TS then you'll forget about xbox forever. I just cant explain it you have to be there to know. CLAN (XOA)(TOOL)(MEX)(TUX) MOHAA FOREVER!
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#380 lowe0
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Except it's not enough not to dislike PC gaming - the first post in this very thread says that console-only gamers are "kidding themselves", and it only goes downhill in other threads around here, as console gamers are derided as being poor, being too stupid to build a PC or play PC games, being a newb to PC gaming, etc.. Even when you point out that you have some experience, or that you own a PC, you'll be called a liar.

Having a reasonable, well-backed-up preference doesn't seem to be enough for the zealots around here.

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In my opinon there is 3 reasons why someone would not like PC gaming. They are either uninformed, casual or lazy.blizzle
I'm not ordinarily in the habit of quoting myself, but I really felt like your post and mine needed to be right next to each other. Thanks for making my point for me!