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#301 Gambler_1
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[QUOTE="Gambler_1"]Are you telling me that a 9600GT is neglagibily better than the 7900GS.:lol::lol:A 9600GT has "much better" image quality than the 7900GS and ROFL what 4-5FPS you speak off.A 9600GT can give you DOUBLE the framerates over 7900GS.This is such a dumb argument it's not even funny.:Vandalvideo
For the tenth time in the context of my original post YES. You have failed to read it once again. We were talkign about graphics on par with consoles in DX9. For someone who DOES NOT HAVE VISTA or DX10 support, a 9600GT isn't going to providing the extra added value. I'm able to play the most technologically advanced game currently on the market at 30-45 FPS constantly without much fidelity loss. I'm not paying 50 dollars for a negligble increase.

You are refering to crysis?I am sorry but you just lost all credibility for saying that.

And you dont ******* need vista for anything right now.Do you even know about the hacked DX9 very high settings in crysis.They look 95% as good as DX10 very high and perform significantly better.

And no you cannot play crysis with a 7900GS without losing alot of graphics fidelity.

Seems to me that you really dont know anything about the PC world.

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#302 Vandalvideo
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I don't care about your ORIGINAL post you said that the 9600GT wasn't worth extra $50.. I know what you are getting at but don't believe people the graphics on consoles compared to 7900GS they are compared to the 8800GT and above...if you don't believe me waste your money on that 7900GS piece of garbage and compare. I say this because I have my pc monitor right by my tv which my friend plays my xbox 360 while I play other games. It is very comparable... as far as I am concerned that this is a joke thread and you are too naive to take our words into consideration in short.. you are a lost cause.TrooperManaic
I said, in the context of my original arguement, that the 9600GT wasn't wroth the extra $50, and quite frankly IT ISN'T. My arguement was focusing around the fact that I'm using Vista, and I'm not the type of person whose going to pay 50 dollars for an extra few FPS when I'm already getting graphics comperable to consoles at FPS comperable to consoles. Heck I have serious doubts if I'd do it even if it was only 10 dollars. I'm not going to flagrantly WASTE MONEY for a NEGLIGBLE increase.
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#303 TrooperManaic
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[QUOTE="Gambler_1"]You dont need vista with DX10 cards.:| Having an 8800 and not having vista is still totally worth it.You need an 8800 to max out many DX9 games.And as for DX10 games well most of them are so poorly optimized so far that even an 8800GTX cannot max them in full DX10 graphics.But most if not all DX10 games so far look almost identical to their DX9 counterparts so you arent missing much at all by not having vista so far.Vandalvideo
But you DO need vista to take full advantage of the card. WITHOUT vista its not worht the extra added price sticker when all I'm getting is a negligble performance incraese. For the tenth time I, and most console games as I see it, WOULDN'T CARE ABOUT TEN-FIFTEEN FPS.

oh BTW pc building is usually a harsh reality and if you deny that reality then you should stick to consoles because it seems that you don't know what you are talking about.
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#304 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"]You dont need vista with DX10 cards.:| Having an 8800 and not having vista is still totally worth it.You need an 8800 to max out many DX9 games.And as for DX10 games well most of them are so poorly optimized so far that even an 8800GTX cannot max them in full DX10 graphics.But most if not all DX10 games so far look almost identical to their DX9 counterparts so you arent missing much at all by not having vista so far.TrooperManaic
But you DO need vista to take full advantage of the card. WITHOUT vista its not worht the extra added price sticker when all I'm getting is a negligble performance incraese. For the tenth time I, and most console games as I see it, WOULDN'T CARE ABOUT TEN-FIFTEEN FPS.

oh BTW pc building is usually a harsh reality and if you deny that reality then you should stick to consoles because it seems that you don't know what you are talking about.

Once again, I know exactly what I'm talking about. I'm not spending 50 bucks on more FPS when I already have great FPS! Its that simple, its a waste of money.
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#305 Hellsing2o2
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"][ an infinitely better card for $100 after $30 rebate.I am sorry but you have to be a real fool to pick up the 7900GS over the 8800GS.Gambler_1

Rebates, rebates, rebates. Thats all I hear from you. I found a 7900GS in five minutes thats cheaper or as cheap as all your proposed cards WITHOUT a rebate or any kind of special deal. Do I have to peice it together for you? That means if I really put some time and effort into it and checking classified ads and looking for special offers I could probably buy one for HECKA cheap. Quite frankly you aren't worth the effort. I've already proven my point beyond what is required. The rig I proposed is cheap, practical, and reliable. That was the purpose of my original post. I have no reason to get an 8800GS when I DONT EVEN HAVE VISTA.

You dont need vista with DX10 cards.:|

Having an 8800 and not having vista is still totally worth it.You need an 8800 to max out many DX9 games.And as for DX10 games well most of them are so poorly optimized so far that even an 8800GTX cannot max them in full DX10 graphics.But most if not all DX10 games so far look almost identical to their DX9 counterparts so you arent missing much at all by not having vista so far.

Not to mention, that 3DMark Vantage will be the first aplication to ever actually have DX10 graphics. All games that claim to be DX10 just have a DX10 layer over them, not the way to do it.

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#306 TrooperManaic
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[QUOTE="TrooperManaic"] I don't care about your ORIGINAL post you said that the 9600GT wasn't worth extra $50.. I know what you are getting at but don't believe people the graphics on consoles compared to 7900GS they are compared to the 8800GT and above...if you don't believe me waste your money on that 7900GS piece of garbage and compare. I say this because I have my pc monitor right by my tv which my friend plays my xbox 360 while I play other games. It is very comparable... as far as I am concerned that this is a joke thread and you are too naive to take our words into consideration in short.. you are a lost cause.Vandalvideo
I said, in the context of my original arguement, that the 9600GT wasn't wroth the extra $50, and quite frankly IT ISN'T. My arguement was focusing around the fact that I'm using Vista, and I'm not the type of person whose going to pay 50 dollars for an extra few FPS when I'm already getting graphics comperable to consoles at FPS comperable to consoles. Heck I have serious doubts if I'd do it even if it was only 10 dollars. I'm not going to flagrantly WASTE MONEY for a NEGLIGBLE increase.

you get WAY more fps increase then 10.. more like 30-100 fps increase in more then most games.

3dmark o6 my righ with 7900GS 4000 points.. same rig with 8800GT over 10000 points.

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#307 Vandalvideo
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You are refering to crysis?I am sorry but you just lost all credibility for saying that. And you dont ******* need vista for anything right now.Do you even know about the hacked DX9 very high settings in crysis.They look 95% as good as DX10 very high and perform significantly better. And no you cannot play crysis with a 7900GS without losing alot of graphics fidelity. Seems to me that you really dont know anything about the PC world.Gambler_1
Buying a DX10 card without a DX10 compliant OS is just a waste of money. Its as simple as that. I'm playing crysis at 1360X768 at about 30-45 fps range. Thats comperable to most console games. I don't need 60FPS to enjoy the game either. All I've turned off was shadows and LOD foliage was turned down. That doesn't change the graphic fidelity very much, and the game looks fantastic on the medium-high settings that its running at. I'm not going to be getting a huge added value for paying the extra money. Thats that.
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#308 wok7
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lol video cards, lol vista, lol small upgrades in fps

The games are always more enjoyable on the consoles anyway unless its C&C3

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#309 jangojay
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Well there is Solitaitre and various text adventures if you're into those, but for serious gaming, better stick with a dedicated console.wok7

ROH OH!! He has returned!

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#310 TrooperManaic
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[QUOTE="Gambler_1"]You are refering to crysis?I am sorry but you just lost all credibility for saying that. And you dont ******* need vista for anything right now.Do you even know about the hacked DX9 very high settings in crysis.They look 95% as good as DX10 very high and perform significantly better. And no you cannot play crysis with a 7900GS without losing alot of graphics fidelity. Seems to me that you really dont know anything about the PC world.Vandalvideo
Buying a DX10 card without a DX10 compliant OS is just a waste of money. Its as simple as that. I'm playing crysis at 1360X768 at about 30-45 fps range. Thats comperable to most console games. I don't need 60FPS to enjoy the game either. All I've turned off was shadows and LOD foliage was turned down. That doesn't change the graphic fidelity very much, and the game looks fantastic on the medium-high settings that its running at. I'm not going to be getting a huge added value for paying the extra money. Thats that.

HAHAHA how little you know you were sucked into Microsoft's scam campaign.
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#311 Vandalvideo
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you get WAY more fps increase then 10.. more like 30-100 fps increase in more then most games.3dmark o6 my righ with 7900GS 4000 points.. same rig with 8800GT over 10000 points.TrooperManaic
its called hyperbole, its to prove a point. I don't care if the game is running in 540000324091230492FPS. Theres no reason to be paying extra money when I'm already getting perfectly fine FPS "compaerable to consoles" in the first place. Its just an exhorbant waste of money.
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#312 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"]You are refering to crysis?I am sorry but you just lost all credibility for saying that. And you dont ******* need vista for anything right now.Do you even know about the hacked DX9 very high settings in crysis.They look 95% as good as DX10 very high and perform significantly better. And no you cannot play crysis with a 7900GS without losing alot of graphics fidelity. Seems to me that you really dont know anything about the PC world.TrooperManaic
Buying a DX10 card without a DX10 compliant OS is just a waste of money. Its as simple as that. I'm playing crysis at 1360X768 at about 30-45 fps range. Thats comperable to most console games. I don't need 60FPS to enjoy the game either. All I've turned off was shadows and LOD foliage was turned down. That doesn't change the graphic fidelity very much, and the game looks fantastic on the medium-high settings that its running at. I'm not going to be getting a huge added value for paying the extra money. Thats that.

HAHAHA how little you know you were sucked into Microsoft's scam campaign.

How was I sucked into Microsoft's scam campaign? I'm the one sitting here with XP and a DX9 card not spending tons of time to tweak my game to run in DX10 on XP ( which I did in the demo).
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#313 -Wheels-
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I myself don't prefer anything. However, there's a lot of classic games I love that are on consoles. PC gaming is pretty cool, especially once you learn how to build your own PC and save tons of $$$$.
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#314 TrooperManaic
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[QUOTE="TrooperManaic"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"]You are refering to crysis?I am sorry but you just lost all credibility for saying that. And you dont ******* need vista for anything right now.Do you even know about the hacked DX9 very high settings in crysis.They look 95% as good as DX10 very high and perform significantly better. And no you cannot play crysis with a 7900GS without losing alot of graphics fidelity. Seems to me that you really dont know anything about the PC world.Vandalvideo
Buying a DX10 card without a DX10 compliant OS is just a waste of money. Its as simple as that. I'm playing crysis at 1360X768 at about 30-45 fps range. Thats comperable to most console games. I don't need 60FPS to enjoy the game either. All I've turned off was shadows and LOD foliage was turned down. That doesn't change the graphic fidelity very much, and the game looks fantastic on the medium-high settings that its running at. I'm not going to be getting a huge added value for paying the extra money. Thats that.

HAHAHA how little you know you were sucked into Microsoft's scam campaign.

How was I sucked into Microsoft's scam campaign? I'm the one sitting here with XP and a DX9 card not spending tons of time to tweak my game to run in DX10 on XP ( which I did in the demo).

and I too have xp and play crysis maxed with natural mod 1280x1024 res,no aa but who needs it.. I also MAX every other game I have with over 8x aa so please don't quote me you have lost all credibility.
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#315 Vandalvideo
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and I too have xp and play crysis maxed with natural mod 1280x1024 res,no aa but who needs it.. I also MAX every other game I have with over 8x aa so please don't quote me you have lost all credibility.TrooperManaic
Once again, I don't need to max games out and play them at OMFG 1000FPS to get great graphics on par with consoles. Sorry that I don't subscribe to the same tweaker ideology as you. I'm more practical in my rigs. I'm fine with near max settings at 30-40 FPS>
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#316 Gambler_1
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[QUOTE="Gambler_1"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"][ an infinitely better card for $100 after $30 rebate.I am sorry but you have to be a real fool to pick up the 7900GS over the 8800GS.Hellsing2o2

Rebates, rebates, rebates. Thats all I hear from you. I found a 7900GS in five minutes thats cheaper or as cheap as all your proposed cards WITHOUT a rebate or any kind of special deal. Do I have to peice it together for you? That means if I really put some time and effort into it and checking classified ads and looking for special offers I could probably buy one for HECKA cheap. Quite frankly you aren't worth the effort. I've already proven my point beyond what is required. The rig I proposed is cheap, practical, and reliable. That was the purpose of my original post. I have no reason to get an 8800GS when I DONT EVEN HAVE VISTA.

You dont need vista with DX10 cards.:|

Having an 8800 and not having vista is still totally worth it.You need an 8800 to max out many DX9 games.And as for DX10 games well most of them are so poorly optimized so far that even an 8800GTX cannot max them in full DX10 graphics.But most if not all DX10 games so far look almost identical to their DX9 counterparts so you arent missing much at all by not having vista so far.

Not to mention, that 3DMark Vantage will be the first aplication to ever actually have DX10 graphics. All games that claim to be DX10 just have a DX10 layer over them, not the way to do it.

Alan wake is when serious PC gamers will really NEED vista.

It's exclusive to vista.

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#317 Gambler_1
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lol video cards, lol vista, lol small upgrades in fps

The games are always more enjoyable on the consoles anyway unless its C&C3

wok7

:lol:

I guess PC gaming is not for kids.Ya that's right you can stay with your console gaming.

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#318 TrooperManaic
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[QUOTE="TrooperManaic"] and I too have xp and play crysis maxed with natural mod 1280x1024 res,no aa but who needs it.. I also MAX every other game I have with over 8x aa so please don't quote me you have lost all credibility.Vandalvideo
Once again, I don't need to max games out and play them at OMFG 1000FPS to get great graphics on par with consoles. Sorry that I don't subscribe to the same tweaker ideology as you. I'm more practical in my rigs. I'm fine with near max settings at 30-40 FPS>

omg then why did you get a pc. pc games are supposed to look better then console games you might aswell throw your pc in the garbage and staple your head a few times before you know what we are trying to say.. you got riped off and I suggest buying a better videocard before you forget what pc gaming is all about.
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#319 Gambler_1
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[QUOTE="TrooperManaic"] and I too have xp and play crysis maxed with natural mod 1280x1024 res,no aa but who needs it.. I also MAX every other game I have with over 8x aa so please don't quote me you have lost all credibility.Vandalvideo
Once again, I don't need to max games out and play them at OMFG 1000FPS to get great graphics on par with consoles. Sorry that I don't subscribe to the same tweaker ideology as you. I'm more practical in my rigs. I'm fine with near max settings at 30-40 FPS>

WOW you are just too dellusional I am sorry to say.

I just hate to say this and I am sorry if this is against the TOS but you are either kidding yourself or are really dumb.

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#320 Vandalvideo
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omg then why did you get a pc. pc games are supposed to look better then console games you might aswell throw your pc in the garbage and staple your head a few times before you know what we are trying to say.. you got riped off and I suggest buying a better videocard before you forget what pc gaming is all about.TrooperManaic
PC games are how you bloody well want them to play. I play PC games to socialize, play competitively, and experience the unique games. I DON'T play PC games to stroke my e-go with exhorbantly expensive rigs that don't serve a purpose. I am more practical than I am eccentric. Heck, whenever I'm playing a CAL-I cod match I play in the lowest possible settings. I'm the new type of PC gamer, the frugal one.
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#321 Gambler_1
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[QUOTE="TrooperManaic"] omg then why did you get a pc. pc games are supposed to look better then console games you might aswell throw your pc in the garbage and staple your head a few times before you know what we are trying to say.. you got riped off and I suggest buying a better videocard before you forget what pc gaming is all about.Vandalvideo
PC games are how you bloody well want them to play. I play PC games to socialize, play competitively, and experience the unique games. I DON'T play PC games to stroke my e-go with exhorbantly expensive rigs that don't serve a purpose. I am more practical than I am eccentric. Heck, whenever I'm playing a CAL-I cod match I play in the lowest possible settings. I'm the new type of PC gamer, the frugal one.

Ok whatever you are please dont give dumb advice to people and dont talk about PC hardware again as you dont know anything.
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#322 TrooperManaic
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This is my last post here.. I am sure alot of you play UT3 so I will use it as my starter... BTW UT3 under 40fps is noticeable and in my opinion unplayable..

I also say that 9600GT is on par with 8800GT so believe that this benchmark says 9600GT instead of 8800GT.

Oh and one more thing this is running less then 1600x1200:lol:

What do you think about 7900GS now:roll: just a couple of fps huh?

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#323 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="TrooperManaic"] omg then why did you get a pc. pc games are supposed to look better then console games you might aswell throw your pc in the garbage and staple your head a few times before you know what we are trying to say.. you got riped off and I suggest buying a better videocard before you forget what pc gaming is all about.Gambler_1
PC games are how you bloody well want them to play. I play PC games to socialize, play competitively, and experience the unique games. I DON'T play PC games to stroke my e-go with exhorbantly expensive rigs that don't serve a purpose. I am more practical than I am eccentric. Heck, whenever I'm playing a CAL-I cod match I play in the lowest possible settings. I'm the new type of PC gamer, the frugal one.

Ok whatever you are please dont give dumb advice to people and dont talk about PC hardware again as you dont know anything.

I've proven my point beyond any resonable doubt. I was talking to a console gamer who was looking for an equivalent experience to consoles. I provided that, and cheap too.
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#324 Vandalvideo
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What do you think about 7900GS now:roll: just a couple of fps huh?TrooperManaic
How kind of you to prove my point. When I'm already getting 40FPS with my 7900GS, theres absolutely no reason to go higher.
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#325 Gambler_1
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This is my last post here.. I am sure alot of you play UT3 so I will use it as my starter... BTW UT3 under 40fps is noticeable and in my opinion unplayable..

I also say that 9600GT is on par with 8800GT so believe that this benchmark says 9600GT instead of 8800GT.

Oh and one more thing this is running less then 1600x1200:lol:

What do you think about 7900GS now:roll: just a couple of fps huh?

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Lol OWNED!
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#326 TrooperManaic
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[QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="TrooperManaic"] omg then why did you get a pc. pc games are supposed to look better then console games you might aswell throw your pc in the garbage and staple your head a few times before you know what we are trying to say.. you got riped off and I suggest buying a better videocard before you forget what pc gaming is all about.Vandalvideo
PC games are how you bloody well want them to play. I play PC games to socialize, play competitively, and experience the unique games. I DON'T play PC games to stroke my e-go with exhorbantly expensive rigs that don't serve a purpose. I am more practical than I am eccentric. Heck, whenever I'm playing a CAL-I cod match I play in the lowest possible settings. I'm the new type of PC gamer, the frugal one.

Ok whatever you are please dont give dumb advice to people and dont talk about PC hardware again as you dont know anything.

I've proven my point beyond any resonable doubt. I was talking to a console gamer who was looking for an equivalent experience to consoles. I provided that, and cheap too.

pc equivalent to console... console $350-400 PC $800-1200 I know I said last post but I couldn't let the idiocy of this guy rot the brains of people who actually want to know about pc performance.
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#327 Gambler_1
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[QUOTE="TrooperManaic"]What do you think about 7900GS now:roll: just a couple of fps huh?Vandalvideo
How kind of you to prove my point. When I'm already getting 40FPS with my 7900GS, theres absolutely no reason to go higher.

But a 9600GT will last you much much longer before you need an upgrade.So you think that $50(that you will get back in rebate anyways) is not worth it to get a card that wont need to be upgraded for alot longer time?:roll:

Now I think you argument is pretty much DEAD.

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#328 TrooperManaic
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="TrooperManaic"]What do you think about 7900GS now:roll: just a couple of fps huh?Gambler_1

How kind of you to prove my point. When I'm already getting 40FPS with my 7900GS, theres absolutely no reason to go higher.

But a 9600GT will last you much much longer before you need an upgrade.So you think that $50(that you will get back in rebate anyways) is not worth it to get a card that wont need to be upgraded for alot longer time?:roll:

Now I think you argument is pretty much DEAD.

Lol OWNED!

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#329 S0nicBooom
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I like mod free matchmaking, rankings, secure networks that are monitored closely. I like having people over and playing halo 3 together on the same machine. I'm sorry, but PC gaming just does not apeal to me. It has a nerdish connotation and is very antisocial, apparently most people in the world tend to agree with me.

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#330 Vandalvideo
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pc equivalent to console... console $350-400 PC $800-1200 I know I said last post but I couldn't let the idiocy of this guy rot the brains of people who actually want to know about pc performance.TrooperManaic
Actually, the rig I provided is only about 650-700 dollars, and over the span of a generation WILL be cheaper considering the cheaper games.
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#331 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="TrooperManaic"]What do you think about 7900GS now:roll: just a couple of fps huh?Gambler_1

How kind of you to prove my point. When I'm already getting 40FPS with my 7900GS, theres absolutely no reason to go higher.

But a 9600GT will last you much much longer before you need an upgrade.So you think that $50(that you will get back in rebate anyways) is not worth it to get a card that wont need to be upgraded for alot longer time?:roll:

Now I think you argument is pretty much DEAD.

Actually, Crysis is the most technologically advanced game currently on the market with no signs of another game coming anytime soon that will require upgrades. Looks like you have bit into the video card market spin. Ofcourse unless you'd like to show me an upcomming game more technologically advanced than Crysis coming soon that will require an upgrade?
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#332 TrooperManaic
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[QUOTE="TrooperManaic"]pc equivalent to console... console $350-400 PC $800-1200 I know I said last post but I couldn't let the idiocy of this guy rot the brains of people who actually want to know about pc performance.Vandalvideo
Actually, the rig I provided is only about 650-700 dollars, and over the span of a generation WILL be cheaper considering the cheaper games.

too bad it wont beable to play them.. that just sucks something hard.....
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#333 Vandalvideo
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too bad it wont beable to play them.. that just sucks something hard.....TrooperManaic
Oh really? Point me to a game coming that is more demanding or more advanced than Crysis. *Looks over the horizon but sees nothing*
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#334 TrooperManaic
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[QUOTE="Gambler_1"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="TrooperManaic"]What do you think about 7900GS now:roll: just a couple of fps huh?Vandalvideo

How kind of you to prove my point. When I'm already getting 40FPS with my 7900GS, theres absolutely no reason to go higher.

But a 9600GT will last you much much longer before you need an upgrade.So you think that $50(that you will get back in rebate anyways) is not worth it to get a card that wont need to be upgraded for alot longer time?:roll:

Now I think you argument is pretty much DEAD.

Actually, Crysis is the most technologically advanced game currently on the market with no signs of another game coming anytime soon that will require upgrades. Looks like you have bit into the video card market spin. Ofcourse unless you'd like to show me an upcomming game more technologically advanced than Crysis coming soon that will require an upgrade?

alienwake.... Crysis is getting boring now I guess you'll be stuck in history soon enough.
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#335 Gambler_1
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[QUOTE="Gambler_1"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="TrooperManaic"]What do you think about 7900GS now:roll: just a couple of fps huh?Vandalvideo

How kind of you to prove my point. When I'm already getting 40FPS with my 7900GS, theres absolutely no reason to go higher.

But a 9600GT will last you much much longer before you need an upgrade.So you think that $50(that you will get back in rebate anyways) is not worth it to get a card that wont need to be upgraded for alot longer time?:roll:

Now I think you argument is pretty much DEAD.

Actually, Crysis is the most technologically advanced game currently on the market with no signs of another game coming anytime soon that will require upgrades. Looks like you have bit into the video card market spin. Ofcourse unless you'd like to show me an upcomming game more technologically advanced than Crysis coming soon that will require an upgrade?

Yes but the next hardware crushing game will probably be playable with a 9600GT at respectable settings but most probably not with a 7900GS.

And really when to upgrade and when to not is just a preference and everybody has their own opinion as to when it is worth to upgrade a video card.

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#336 Vandalvideo
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alienwake.... Crysis is getting boring now I guess you'll be stuck in history soon enough.TrooperManaic
You mean Alan Wake, the vaporware that hasn't had any new media in a LONG time? That games isn't anywhere near as demanding as Crysis! All the games I see on the horizon on rig friendly.
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#337 naruto7777
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i dont like pc gaming because theres no games i like

where mario zelda final fantasy pokemon huh ever though of that

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#338 naruto7777
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i dont like pc gaming because theres no games i like

where mario zelda final fantasy pokemon huh ever though of that

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#339 Vandalvideo
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Yes but the next hardware crushing game will probably be playable with a 9600GT at respectable settings but most probably not with a 7900GS.And really when to upgrade and when to not is just a preference and everybody has their own opinion as to when it is worth to upgrade a video card.Gambler_1
Link to said game? I am NOT going to upgrade out of fear or market spin. There are NO games on the horizon that require upgrading.
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#340 TrooperManaic
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[QUOTE="TrooperManaic"] too bad it wont beable to play them.. that just sucks something hard.....Vandalvideo
Oh really? Point me to a game coming that is more demanding or more advanced than Crysis. *Looks over the horizon but sees nothing*

dont forget that GPU's also help render physics... Use crysis editor and make a big stack of boxes and knock them down you'll go to 1fps... well I did that with my last gpu and since I have my one I was curious how many fps I would get if I did the same test I got over 30fps.
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#341 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="TrooperManaic"] too bad it wont beable to play them.. that just sucks something hard.....TrooperManaic
Oh really? Point me to a game coming that is more demanding or more advanced than Crysis. *Looks over the horizon but sees nothing*

dont forget that GPU's also help render physics... Use crysis editor and make a big stack of boxes and knock them down you'll go to 1fps... well I did that with my last gpu and since I have my one I was curious how many fps I would get if I did the same test I got over 30fps.

Great, I'll keep that im mind when theres a game thats built around a bunch of boxes sitting in a room and you tipping them over.
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#342 Gambler_1
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[QUOTE="Gambler_1"]Yes but the next hardware crushing game will probably be playable with a 9600GT at respectable settings but most probably not with a 7900GS.And really when to upgrade and when to not is just a preference and everybody has their own opinion as to when it is worth to upgrade a video card.Vandalvideo
Link to said game? I am NOT going to upgrade out of fear or market spin. There are NO games on the horizon that require upgrading.

Where did I say that a 7900GS will require upgrading in the near future?

But how does that affect the fact that the 9600GT will last longer regardless of the fact that how much the 7900GS lasts?

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#343 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"]Yes but the next hardware crushing game will probably be playable with a 9600GT at respectable settings but most probably not with a 7900GS.And really when to upgrade and when to not is just a preference and everybody has their own opinion as to when it is worth to upgrade a video card.Gambler_1

Link to said game? I am NOT going to upgrade out of fear or market spin. There are NO games on the horizon that require upgrading.

Where did I say that a 7900GS will require upgrading in the near future?

But how does that affect the fact that the 9600GT will last longer regardless of the fact that how much the 7900GS lasts?

You said, "next hardware curhsing game.....will most probably not be playable with a 7900GS". ALright then, I ask you to show me said game. I have no reason to upgrade NOW when I c ould keep using my 7900GS i've had for TWO YEARS and wait for the 9600GT to go down in price. Or better yet, I can even wait for the next generation or family of cards!
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#344 TrooperManaic
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Turok

Ironman

Mass effect

GRID!

Devil may cry 4

Flatout ultimate carnage

STALKER clear sky

farcry 2

mercenaries 2

triberium

GTA4?
GOW2?

spore

and many more

I hope you are ready to play on lowest settings because all these games require more shader power then the 7900GS has.

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#345 TrooperManaic
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[QUOTE="Gambler_1"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"]Yes but the next hardware crushing game will probably be playable with a 9600GT at respectable settings but most probably not with a 7900GS.And really when to upgrade and when to not is just a preference and everybody has their own opinion as to when it is worth to upgrade a video card.Vandalvideo

Link to said game? I am NOT going to upgrade out of fear or market spin. There are NO games on the horizon that require upgrading.

Where did I say that a 7900GS will require upgrading in the near future?

But how does that affect the fact that the 9600GT will last longer regardless of the fact that how much the 7900GS lasts?

You said, "next hardware curhsing game.....will most probably not be playable with a 7900GS". ALright then, I ask you to show me said game. I have no reason to upgrade NOW when I c ould keep using my 7900GS i've had for TWO YEARS and wait for the 9600GT to go down in price. Or better yet, I can even wait for the next generation or family of cards!

ok you didnt say that you gave us the impression that you JUST bought it.
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#346 Vandalvideo
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Turok Ironman Mass effect GRID! Devil may cry 4Flatout ultimate carnag STALKER clear sky farcry 2mercenaries 2 triberium GTA4? GOW2? spore and many more I hope you are ready to play on lowest settings because all these games require more shader power then the 7900GS has.TrooperManaic
None of those games can even begin to come close to the requirements of Crysis. Not to mention I have no reason to buy crappy games like Turok, Ironman, Flatout, and mercenaries. The only gamse I would even begin to imagine buying on that list is Farcry 2 and Stalker clear skies, neither of which is going to require me to upgrade to get great graphics. Once again, I don't need OMG max settings at 60FPS. Theres absolutely no way that any one of those games require anything more powerful than a 7900GS. Oh and spore uses procedural.....w/e and will be able to play on a large variety of rigs.
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#347 Gambler_1
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[QUOTE="Gambler_1"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"]Yes but the next hardware crushing game will probably be playable with a 9600GT at respectable settings but most probably not with a 7900GS.And really when to upgrade and when to not is just a preference and everybody has their own opinion as to when it is worth to upgrade a video card.Vandalvideo

Link to said game? I am NOT going to upgrade out of fear or market spin. There are NO games on the horizon that require upgrading.

Where did I say that a 7900GS will require upgrading in the near future?

But how does that affect the fact that the 9600GT will last longer regardless of the fact that how much the 7900GS lasts?

You said, "next hardware curhsing game.....will most probably not be playable with a 7900GS". ALright then, I ask you to show me said game. I have no reason to upgrade NOW when I c ould keep using my 7900GS i've had for TWO YEARS and wait for the 9600GT to go down in price. Or better yet, I can even wait for the next generation or family of cards!

Errr where did you assume that anybody is saying that you or anyone with a 7900GS should upgrade to a 9600GT.:?

What we are saying is IF you are buying a new card and a new PC then buying a 7900GS is foolish cuz 9600GT has much better "price performance".

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#348 Vandalvideo
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Errr where did you assume that anybody is saying that you or anyone with a 7900GS should upgrade to a 9600GT.:? hat we are saying is IF you are buying a new card and a new PC then buying a 7900GS is foolish cuz 9600GT has much better "price performance".Gambler_1
Once again, there are no games out or on the horrizon that require me (or anyone else for that matter) to have a 9600Gt over a 7900GS. Will you get more FPS? Sure, but if you don't have Vista you can get by with a 7900GS getting near max settings on great FPS without much fidelity loss. There is absolutely NO REASON except for NEGLIGBLE FPS INCREASE to choose a 9600GT over a 7900GS. Your longevity arguement doesn't even have any games to back it up. Had there been any more games on the horizon more demanding or more advanced than Crysis that mayhave changed.
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#349 TrooperManaic
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[QUOTE="TrooperManaic"]Turok Ironman Mass effect GRID! Devil may cry 4Flatout ultimate carnag STALKER clear sky farcry 2mercenaries 2 triberium GTA4? GOW2? spore and many more I hope you are ready to play on lowest settings because all these games require more shader power then the 7900GS has.Vandalvideo
None of those games can even begin to come close to the requirements of Crysis. Not to mention I have no reason to buy crappy games like Turok, Ironman, Flatout, and mercenaries. The only gamse I would even begin to imagine buying on that list is Farcry 2 and Stalker clear skies, neither of which is going to require me to upgrade to get great graphics. Once again, I don't need OMG max settings at 60FPS. Theres absolutely no way that any one of those games require anything more powerful than a 7900GS. Oh and spore uses procedural.....w/e and will be able to play on a large variety of rigs.

then you should stick to console gameing because apparently there is no games coming out that you'll like. They are hardware crushing.. they need SHADER POWER like I said and you don't have that. just because crysis cane out and has a big GPU requrement dosent mean it will be the biggest requrement... JEEZ most of those games will RECCOMEND a 9800GTX. if you live your ife playing crysis and that is your only game then I feel sorry for the person who COULD HAVE owned and upgraded your pc, seems like such a waste.