How can anybody not like PC gaming?

Can anybody give me a reason as to why they dont like PC gaming?

Gambler_1

Ive never laughed for 3 minutes straight sitting at a desk playing a PC game, but I have playing Halo 3 split screen.

Overall, I think PC gaming is the best. It's got the better graphics(AA,AF,higher res,texture mods) and add-on mods. Console gaming is good for people who want to play games casually. I'm mainly a competitive player(I used to be a high-level CoD2 player) and I couldn't imagine myself playing like that on a console, it just doesn't work.

I bought my PS3 + 42" HDTV for 1 main reason, to continue my playstation tradition and to get all the sequels to some of the best console games ever IMO (MGS4,GT5,FF13 etc). I didn't get a 360 because I can play GeOW,Bioshock and ME soon on their PC and get them looking better than their 360 version. The Wii just doesn't interest me as the gaming friends I have all play competitively on their PC.

You can be hardcore and not into pc gaming...don't kid yourself. PC gaming is great though. ^_^ For the time I had my video card I loved it. It just ended up costing me more than it's worth though. I have a pre-built PC and have had to upgrade quite a few things just for the video card to run like it should so I decided to sell the stuff I had bought and stick to consoles untill I got a job then build a PC from the ground up. -_- PC gaming can be a nightmare if you were in a situation like I was in.killab2oo5

[QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="Udsen"]#5 is wrong. For some of my PC games I need to have the discs and swap them according to which game I want.Udsen

So it wouldn't be legal?

Gotta love it. Anyways, I don't understand why any fanboy makes a big deal out of opening a dvd slot, and changing a disk.

No , No CD Fixes are legal.

[QUOTE="Udsen"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="Udsen"]#5 is wrong. For some of my PC games I need to have the discs and swap them according to which game I want.Meu2k7

So it wouldn't be legal?

Gotta love it. Anyways, I don't understand why any fanboy makes a big deal out of opening a dvd slot, and changing a disk.

No , No CD Fixes are legal.

I quess you could make backup ISOs of all your game disks, having backups is legal.

For me, PC rules them all, if I had to decide between my consoles or my computer, the choice would be a no brainer. That being said, there are a lot of people who enjoy not working past compatability issues, driver problems, hardware failures, data loss, ect, ect. Every rose has it's thorns and PC gaming is a perfect example of it. Consoles are the "safer" bet, any game you buy for your console is going to work without a problem most times. Can't count the number of times I've gotten a new PC game home to find out it won't work for me right off or has some annoying technical problem that I can't overlook. Example: I just got Kane and Lynch: Dead Men, and I have a great PC gaming setup, yet there is an annoying "hiccup" issue that occurs every few seconds that absolutely ruined the game for me since I can't make it go away no matter how many settings I change. Borrowed the 360 version from a friend and despite the platform being technically inferior, it ran without a hitch.

I can totally understand why people would avoid gaming on a PC, but I have fun working through a lot of the "issues" of PC gaming and have gotten used to not being able to unpackage a game and jump right in. If anything, I think the main reason people shy away from PC gaming is that technical problems can ruin the experience if you don't have the know-how or inclination to overcome them. Just watch the boards and see how many people whine and cry without end when their 360 dies and they're without a console for a month. Just imagine a failed power supply, or a faulty hard disk going bad and losing huge amounts of data and save games, it's problems like that that turn people off to the platform in general and the stiff price of entry in the U.S. compared to consoles.

[QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="f50p90"]I've played games on my PC before, I prefer consoles. Simple as thatf50p90

Personally, I could give a rats ass about people who don't game on PCs. Who cares? It's there choice and not mine.

The reasons I like PC gaming are,

• Free multiplayer for all games besides MMOs
• Mods because I like to savor my games as much as I can, I'm not the kind of guy who jumps from game to game
• Better games; old and new(Fallout, Baldur's Gate, The Witcher, Crysis)
• The best strategy games
• I prefer KB&M
• Option to change graphics, sound, ect
• Option to do anything I want which means the PC platform is the most flexible
• Listen to music and watching tv through my dual monitor setup while playing a game
• Best graphics
• Upgrades
• Patches which make the game better and fix bugs. Unfortuntely the console guys have to suffer with all of Oblivions bugs while the fans make patches that will fix them
• Can make video games for free without paying for anything
• Direct2drive

[QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="f50p90"]I've played games on my PC before, I prefer consoles. Simple as thatf50p90

i love it when consolists use the argument "ATLEAST I WONT HAVE VIRUSES"

that just proves consolists dont know how to maintain a pc, actually you dont need to maintain anything, alteast i dont,


i pc using 2 different computer in the past 4-5 years with no anti virus software, and you know what? i never got a single virus

Cause consoles are more accesible to most people and easier to use: no install (ok maybe on ps3 for like three games), needed upgrades, tech specs, settings tweakings. Consoles you can put a game in and play, even with multiple people on one. PC gaming is great, though, just not popular.Knuckleball93

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]You can be hardcore and not into pc gaming...don't kid yourself. PC gaming is great though. ^_^ For the time I had my video card I loved it. It just ended up costing me more than it's worth though. I have a pre-built PC and have had to upgrade quite a few things just for the video card to run like it should so I decided to sell the stuff I had bought and stick to consoles untill I got a job then build a PC from the ground up. -_- PC gaming can be a nightmare if you were in a situation like I was in.Gambler_1

[QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="f50p90"]I've played games on my PC before, I prefer consoles. Simple as thatf50p90

[QUOTE="_Pedro_"]

[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="f50p90"]I've played games on my PC before, I prefer consoles. Simple as thatf50p90

why is it that it seems every console fanboy has a 42" HDTV and than go on whining about the price of a PC :?

and my cpu, ram, hdd, case, os, motherboard, isn't for gaming, so I guess that means my pc cost me $250 for gaming. find me a console that is under $250 and runs cod4 in 720p maxed out or runs stalker, crysis etc

if your going to use the argument I have a a hdtv, I can bet 80% of systemwars has a pc form the last year or so with a cpu that is pleanty good enough and the only thing the lacks is gpu so you can't say pc gaming is expencvie if you own a hdtv

[QUOTE="_Pedro_"]

[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="f50p90"]I've played games on my PC before, I prefer consoles. Simple as thatJLF1

why is it that it seems every console fanboy has a 42" HDTV and than go on whining about the price of a PC :?

why do consolies belive, people buy good cpus just for gaming? try decoding or rendering, or working with larde photoshop images with celeron :lol:

[QUOTE="_Pedro_"]

[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="f50p90"]I've played games on my PC before, I prefer consoles. Simple as thatDeihmos

why is it that it seems every console fanboy has a 42" HDTV and than go on whining about the price of a PC :?

An HDTV is a part of your entertainment center. Cable TV, movies etc. Who buys a TV to be used with a console only?

and my computer is part of more productivity life. why buys a pc just for gaming? what are you using right now, you 360 to browse the web? :lol:

[QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="Udsen"]#5 is wrong. For some of my PC games I need to have the discs and swap them according to which game I want.Udsen

So it wouldn't be legal?

Gotta love it. Anyways, I don't understand why any fanboy makes a big deal out of opening a dvd slot, and changing a disk.

yeah I have to put the disk in before steam launches the game right. cod4 mp needs no disk or 90% of mp modes now.

[QUOTE="_Pedro_"][QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"]

[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"][QUOTE="f50p90"]I've played games on my PC before, I prefer consoles. Simple as thatf50p90

why is it that it seems every console fanboy has a 42" HDTV and than go on whining about the price of a PC :?

why do console fanboys believe hermits only buy pc's to play games? That is the point I'm trying to make here. You cannot say that the PC is expensive when it's just as much of a neccesity as a normal TV, up the price a bit and you will get just as much advantages from a normal pc to a high-end rig as a SD-TV to a HD-TV. In my case you get a gaming rig capable of playing all the latest games atleast on High.

why buy a hdtv when you can get a nice pc monitor that's pleanty big enoug for watching tv on and a decent gaming pc for the same price as the hdtv?

I think keboard and mouse suck for playing games, been playing video games for over 20 years and can kick your hermit butt in most games so don't call me a non gamer. Most hardcore gamers grew up playing arcade machines, not sitting in their bedrooms playing RPG number 100002, hermits are not hardcore at all, just think they are because they spend to much money on lumps of wires and plastic that are better for printing holiday pics than playing games.

[QUOTE="Gambler_1"]

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Complexity, and I say that as a PC gamer. You can debate how expensive PCs are and what they can and cannot do, but at the end of the day the fact is it is much easier to set-up, play and maintain a console because of their unified architecture. While there are benefits to that complexity (upgradability, mods, community features, etc.) you cannot deny that it takes significantly longer to set up and maintain a PC than it does a console.PBSnipes

All you have to do is run defrag and virus scan every 3 months and you are fine and done with the maintainance.Every now and then just check out the latest graphics drivers and update them if new ones are available.There is nothing difficult in that.

360:

• Hook up cables (power, sound, video)
• Adjust settings
• Update console firmware
• Set-up XBL account
• Play game (may require automatic patching)
• Total Time: Approx 30 minutes

PC:

• Hook up cables (power and speakers)
• Install Windows
• Adjust settings
• Update Windows
• Update Drivers
• Install gaming software (ie Steam and similar services)
• Install games
• Patch games (some automatic, some manual)
• Total Time: 3-4 hours

Also consider that the PC requires more maintinence (ie continuously updating/patching). I'm not saying that the PC is an infinitely complex machine that only the hardcore could possibly figure out, in fact it is fairly easy to update and patch. But you cannot deny it takes much more time and effort to get a PC running and maintain it.

easier the first time, but, console updates are now more common than driver updates, windows updates itself, games auto detect the settings so you don't need to even touch them, when did I last install steam? oh 2005. I have it on my games partition of my hdd so it never has to be installed again even if it reload windows, you don't have to patch games for them to work and consoles also have patches so this point isn't really valid anymore.

ok installing games does take a while depending. if its one game its like 5min, and then you get 1/4 the loading times of consoles.

[QUOTE="Gambler_1"]

Will most gamers prefer a HDTV over a high end rig?I dont think so.

People who have 1080p HDTV's and are only gaming on consoles are really kidding themselves.To really enjoy a 1080p HDTV for some gaming to it's potential,you need a PC and a pretty good one at that.

f50p90

that's because you 360/ps3 lacks the power to run in the hdtv's native res with lots of af and aa

[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="Gambler_1"]

Will most gamers prefer a HDTV over a high end rig?I dont think so.

People who have 1080p HDTV's and are only gaming on consoles are really kidding themselves.To really enjoy a 1080p HDTV for some gaming to it's potential,you need a PC and a pretty good one at that.

imprezawrx500

that's because you 360/ps3 lacks the power to run in the hdtv's native res with lots of af and aa

They look better and run better than 99% of PC's thats for sure.

for those who agrue about updates in pc games have a read of the gt5:p review

http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/playstation-3/reviews/131581.Gran-Turismo-5-Prologue/

"now require that you actually install games. So it wasn't until after I'd twiddled my thumbs for a few minutes, then made a coffee, then drank the coffee, that the game was installed and I was ready to play!
Only... my console still wasn't. Gran Turismo 5 happily informed me that there was an update to install. OK, this probably won't take too long, I thought.
Three more coffees, and a game of internet RISK later and I was finally allowed to play. Funny, I always thought this was one of the main points of the argument that consoles were better than PC's. No installing things, no patching things, just put the disk in and it goes? Isn't that what it was all about?"

consoles are full as updates as much as pcs are now, sad but true

PC Gaming is expensive, complicated and most of the best games are on consoles so what is there to like?Flexmaster_365

a tiny bit more but $20 less per game quicly adds up, over 1 year the extra spend on console games = a new mainstream graphics card. plus you can't run photoshop on your xbox

I think keboard and mouse suck for playing games, been playing video games for over 20 years and can kick your hermit butt in most games so don't call me a non gamer. Most hardcore gamers grew up playing arcade machines, not sitting in their bedrooms playing RPG number 100002, hermits are not hardcore at all, just think they are because they spend to much money on lumps of wires and plastic that are better for printing holiday pics than playing games.

AlienSoldier

Ok then how bout a game of crysis and you can have the 360 controller running the game on a hdtv and I'll have the controller and see who wins, or gears, or whatever game, racers and sports are the only games than controller is better

............If someone rathers consoles........

:|

[QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"]PC Gaming is expensive, complicated and most of the best games are on consoles so what is there to like?imprezawrx500

a tiny bit more but $20 less per game quicly adds up, over 1 year the extra spend on console games = a new mainstream graphics card. plus you can't run photoshop on your xbox

$20 is nothing when you compare that to constant upgrades.

1 Year speed? Where most 90% of PC's still cant run or play COD4 or Gears, you need to spend $2000 or more.

Why the hell do I care about photoshop? I wanna play games...

[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]

[QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"]PC Gaming is expensive, complicated and most of the best games are on consoles so what is there to like?Flexmaster_365

a tiny bit more but $20 less per game quicly adds up, over 1 year the extra spend on console games = a new mainstream graphics card. plus you can't run photoshop on your xbox

$20 is nothing when you compare that to constant upgrades.

1 Year speed? Where most 90% of PC's still cant run or play COD4 or Gears, you need to spend $2000 or more.

Why the hell do I care about photoshop? I wanna play games...

Just like your constant console buying right?

:|

:roll:

Besides a cheap gaming PC can run all games at highest of settings, bar Crysis....... GeOW and COD4 arent even system intensive games.... Surprise surprise really, the 360 is almost comparable to a low end gaming computer.

[QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"][QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]

[QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"]PC Gaming is expensive, complicated and most of the best games are on consoles so what is there to like?skrat_01

a tiny bit more but $20 less per game quicly adds up, over 1 year the extra spend on console games = a new mainstream graphics card. plus you can't run photoshop on your xbox

$20 is nothing when you compare that to constant upgrades.

1 Year speed? Where most 90% of PC's still cant run or play COD4 or Gears, you need to spend $2000 or more.

Why the hell do I care about photoshop? I wanna play games...

Just like your constant console buying right?

:|

Besides a cheap gaming PC can run all games at highest of settings, bar Crysis....... GeOW and COD4 arent even system intensive games.... Surprise surprise really, the 360 is almost comparable to a low end gaming computer.

Yea constant upgrades every 6 months, and only $2000 PC's run COD4 and Gears as smooth as the 360. Plus 90% of PC owners cant even play Halo 2. :lol:

I like PC gaming but prefer console gaming, and heres why:

Typical PC gaming for me goes like this,

I go upstairs to my PC desk, turn on the 17" LCD monitor and wait a minute or so for it to boot up , then shut down various things I dont need running. Start team speak and join the server then hide it. Put in the game and boot it up. I goto the server list and search for the server my freinds are on and join that game. I start to play. Half an hour goes by and my hands start cramping because I'm not that used to using a mouse and keyboard. Then my back starts to hurt from a couple hours sitting at a computer table. I also only have stereo speakers (which are ok but not ace) on my PC and after a couple hours I go back down watch tv because Ive had enough.

Typical 360 session goes like this:

Turn on my 360, press on on my 42" HD plasma and my 5.1 surround automatically boots up itself and sets to 360. I then grab a beer and stick my wireless headset on and sit back in my recliner. Tap 1 button to see who's on and another to join the game. Then I take a couple good drinks of my beer by which time the game is on and I'm off. I start to get tired so look at the clock and about 8 hours have gone by. I say see ya to my freinds and goto bed having had a cracking night of gaming and a laugh with my regular players.

For me, thats why console gaming is just better.

Cheers

Too expensive, crap playing environment, hard to set up, usually nerd related, gotta update every second, games crash for no reason, plus much more.

thats why.

Too expensive, crap playing environment, hard to set up, usually nerd related, gotta update every second, games crash for no reason, plus much more.

thats why.

r_gam3

Console gamers are not nerds?

[QUOTE="r_gam3"]

Too expensive, crap playing environment, hard to set up, usually nerd related, gotta update every second, games crash for no reason, plus much more.

thats why.

Meu2k7

Console gamers are not nerds?

I think he meant geek.

Too expensive, crap playing environment, hard to set up, usually nerd related, gotta update every second, games crash for no reason, plus much more.

thats why.

r_gam3

There's more than a bit of hyperbole here.

You don't need to update every second, games always crash for a reason.

And I hate to break it to you, but your not going to be considered a rock star for playing on a console.

Yea constant upgrades every 6 months, and only $2000 PC's run COD4 and Gears as smooth as the 360. Plus 90% of PC owners cant even play Halo 2. :lol:

Flexmaster_365

You are either a fakeboy or simply dellusional.

2. Why would any PC gamers WANT to play Halo 2? :|

Too expensive, crap playing environment, hard to set up, usually nerd related, gotta update every second, games crash for no reason, plus much more.

thats why.

r_gam3

Bet that makes you SUPER COOL 8)

[QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"]

Yea constant upgrades every 6 months, and only $2000 PC's run COD4 and Gears as smooth as the 360. Plus 90% of PC owners cant even play Halo 2. :lol:

skrat_01

You are either a fakeboy or simply dellusional.

2. Why would any PC gamers WANT to play Halo 2? :|

1. Making up stuff? like what?

2. Im not saying they want to, but PC's are so crappy that most cant even run a last gen title. :lol:

i can see why people do not like it or are not technicaly proficiant enough to deal with problems if they arise, PC gaming is still king for me tho

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"]

Yea constant upgrades every 6 months, and only $2000 PC's run COD4 and Gears as smooth as the 360. Plus 90% of PC owners cant even play Halo 2. :lol:

Flexmaster_365

You are either a fakeboy or simply dellusional.

2. Why would any PC gamers WANT to play Halo 2? :|

1. Making up stuff? like what?

2. Im not saying they want to, but PC's are so crappy that most cant even run a last gen title. :lol:

1. PC's do not cost $2000 to even purchase a new one. The TC is paying only 4/5 of that - he could cut the costs down by half if he just used the link I posted. Nor do you have to upgrade one every 6 months, because buying the most powerful PC out today will allow you to run games for another 4 years. At which point the "low" graphics will be just as good as today's "High" graphics or better.

2. That's because it's a bad port. It's why HL2 only runs at 30fps on the 360 @720p when my "Last-gen PC" can run it at full settings @ a higher framerate and higher resolution.

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Lets compare setting up a 360 vs setting up my PC (which is a laptop, meaning I didn't even have to install hardware):

360:

• Hook up cables (power, sound, video)
• Adjust settings
• Update console firmware
• Set-up XBL account
• Play game (may require automatic patching)
• Total Time: Approx 30 minutes

PC:

• Hook up cables (power and speakers)
• Install Windows
• Adjust settings
• Update Windows
• Update Drivers
• Install gaming software (ie Steam and similar services)
• Install games
• Patch games (some automatic, some manual)
• Total Time: 3-4 hours

Also consider that the PC requires more maintinence (ie continuously updating/patching). I'm not saying that the PC is an infinitely complex machine that only the hardcore could possibly figure out, in fact it is fairly easy to update and patch. But you cannot deny it takes much more time and effort to get a PC running and maintain it.

imprezawrx500

easier the first time, but, console updates are now more common than driver updates, windows updates itself, games auto detect the settings so you don't need to even touch them, when did I last install steam? oh 2005. I have it on my games partition of my hdd so it never has to be installed again even if it reload windows, you don't have to patch games for them to work and consoles also have patches so this point isn't really valid anymore.

ok installing games does take a while depending. if its one game its like 5min, and then you get 1/4 the loading times of consoles.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"]

Yea constant upgrades every 6 months, and only $2000 PC's run COD4 and Gears as smooth as the 360. Plus 90% of PC owners cant even play Halo 2. :lol:

Flexmaster_365

You are either a fakeboy or simply dellusional.

2. Why would any PC gamers WANT to play Halo 2? :|

1. Making up stuff? like what?

2. Im not saying they want to, but PC's are so crappy that most cant even run a last gen title. :lol:

2. PC's are so crappy? Gaming PCs? By that logic the 360 is far more pitiful than a modest gaming computer.

I guess consoles are all crappy by that logic? The 360 could barley run GeoW and Bioshock at 30fps

:roll: