How does the PS4 differ from a high-end gaming PC?

[QUOTE="RyviusARC"]

[QUOTE="bezza2011"]

How does the PS4 differ from a high-end gaming PC?


The answer is the ps4 is going to cost around $399/$499 and a high end gaming pc costs anywhere from $800+ to build next......

ronvalencia

It's already cheaper than 800USD to build a PC that will perform similar to consoles.

By the time the PS4 comes out it will be even cheaper.

And when the newest GPU designs come out next year a comparable GPU to the PS4 will be a low end one.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU:AMD FX-6100 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Microcenter)

Motherboard:ECS A960M-M3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($41.99 @ Amazon)

Memory:Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.98 @ NCIX US)

Storage:Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ Outlet PC)

Video Card:PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($235.66 @ Newegg)

Case:Diablotek CPA-7620 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ Microcenter)

Power Supply:CoolMax 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($33.98 @ Newegg)

Optical Drive:Pioneer BDC-207DBK Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($37.98 @ Outlet PC)

Total: $582.55 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

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And your GPU doesn't have half the ram the PS4 has...tormentos

[QUOTE="tormentos"]And your GPU doesn't have half the ram the PS4 has...faizan_faizan

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="RyviusARC"]

It's already cheaper than 800USD to build a PC that will perform similar to consoles.

By the time the PS4 comes out it will be even cheaper.

And when the newest GPU designs come out next year a comparable GPU to the PS4 will be a low end one.

tormentos

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU:AMD FX-6100 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Microcenter)

Motherboard:ECS A960M-M3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($41.99 @ Amazon)

Memory:Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.98 @ NCIX US)

Storage:Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ Outlet PC)

Video Card:PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($235.66 @ Newegg)

Case:Diablotek CPA-7620 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ Microcenter)

Power Supply:CoolMax 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($33.98 @ Newegg)

Optical Drive:Pioneer BDC-207DBK Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($37.98 @ Outlet PC)

Total: $582.55 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-30 07:21 EDT-0400)

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="tormentos"]And your GPU doesn't have half the ram the PS4 has...tormentos

I hardly think so that next gen mutiplats will use 5GB vram at consol settings...

and if you don't like the HD7870 XT 2GB that he choose you can go with the HD7850/1Ghz with 4GB vram

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="tormentos"]And your GPU doesn't have half the ram the PS4 has...tormentos

Your example of a 7850 vs 650ti is so flawed it isnt even funny... comparing a gpu with 192bit bus vs a gpu with 256bit bus, then GTX 650ti is slower then my 560... Having more memory does not magically make a gpu faster, again what happens is that when the gpu's buffer gets saturated and has to rely on the system memory to buffer the new data slowing things down.But yet we can look at a 1.5gb GTX 580 matching and or outperforming a 2gb 7870 at 1920x1200.

[QUOTE="RyviusARC"]

[QUOTE="bezza2011"]

How does the PS4 differ from a high-end gaming PC?


The answer is the ps4 is going to cost around $399/$499 and a high end gaming pc costs anywhere from $800+ to build next......

ronvalencia

It's already cheaper than 800USD to build a PC that will perform similar to consoles.

By the time the PS4 comes out it will be even cheaper.

And when the newest GPU designs come out next year a comparable GPU to the PS4 will be a low end one.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU:AMD FX-6100 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Microcenter)

Motherboard:ECS A960M-M3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($41.99 @ Amazon)

Memory:Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.98 @ NCIX US)

Storage:Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ Outlet PC)

Video Card:PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($235.66 @ Newegg)

Case:Diablotek CPA-7620 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ Microcenter)

Power Supply:CoolMax 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($33.98 @ Newegg)

Optical Drive:Pioneer BDC-207DBK Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($37.98 @ Outlet PC)

Total: $582.55 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-30 07:21 EDT-0400)

if you want it to explode

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="RyviusARC"]

 

It's already cheaper than 800USD to build a PC that will perform similar to consoles.

By the time the PS4 comes out it will be even cheaper.

And when the newest GPU designs come out next year a comparable GPU to the PS4 will be a low end one.

lostrib

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU:AMD FX-6100 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Microcenter)

Motherboard:ECS A960M-M3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($41.99 @ Amazon)

Memory:Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.98 @ NCIX US)

Storage:Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ Outlet PC)

Video Card:PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($235.66 @ Newegg)

Case:Diablotek CPA-7620 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ Microcenter)

Power Supply:CoolMax 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($33.98 @ Newegg)

Optical Drive:Pioneer BDC-207DBK Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($37.98 @ Outlet PC)

Total: $582.55 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-30 07:21 EDT-0400)

if you want it to explode

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] You could have about $600 PC that beats PS4.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU:AMD FX-6100 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Microcenter)

Motherboard:ECS A960M-M3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($41.99 @ Amazon)

Memory:Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.98 @ NCIX US)

Storage:Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ Outlet PC)

Video Card:PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($235.66 @ Newegg)

Case:Diablotek CPA-7620 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ Microcenter)

Power Supply:CoolMax 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($33.98 @ Newegg)

Optical Drive:Pioneer BDC-207DBK Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($37.98 @ Outlet PC)

Total: $582.55 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-30 07:21 EDT-0400)

faizan_faizan

if you want it to explode

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] You could have about $600 PC that beats PS4.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU:AMD FX-6100 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Microcenter)

Motherboard:ECS A960M-M3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($41.99 @ Amazon)

Memory:Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.98 @ NCIX US)

Storage:Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ Outlet PC)

Video Card:PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($235.66 @ Newegg)

Case:Diablotek CPA-7620 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ Microcenter)

Power Supply:CoolMax 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($33.98 @ Newegg)

Optical Drive:Pioneer BDC-207DBK Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($37.98 @ Outlet PC)

Total: $582.55 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-30 07:21 EDT-0400)

faizan_faizan

if you want it to explode

when the PSU and Motherboard burst into flame

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

if you want it to explode

lostrib

when the PSU and Motherboard burst into flame

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] How?.clyde46

when the PSU and Motherboard burst into flame

They do not have the greatest reputation, except maybe their "Golden" boards.  If I was gonna use a budget board, probably go with Asrock, maybe Biostar

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

when the PSU and Motherboard burst into flame

lostrib

They do not have the greatest reputation, except maybe their "Golden" boards.  If I was gonna use a budget board, probably go with Asrock, maybe Biostar

If you have a pc from 2007-now chances that you have a copy of windows Vista or Windows 7, and if your typing on a desktop you already have a mouse and keyboard. And whats funny is that you still think the PS4 gpu will use more then 2-3 gb on average and having that magical 7gb or less of usable memory will actually make a difference for 1080p gaming.... 04dcarraher

In games, I hope. Exclusives is why I chose consoles

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] Say what? How does that make a difference? The GPU still beats the PS4 outright.MK-Professor

I hardly think so that next gen mutiplats will use 5GB vram at consol settings...

and if you don't like the HD7870 XT 2GB that he choose you can go with the HD7850/1Ghz with 4GB vram

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] Say what? How does that make a difference? The GPU still beats the PS4 outright.04dcarraher

Your example of a 7850 vs 650ti is so flawed it isnt even funny... comparing a gpu with 192bit bus vs a gpu with 256bit bus, then GTX 650ti is slower then my 560... Having more memory does not magically make a gpu faster, again what happens is that when the gpu's buffer gets saturated and has to rely on the system memory to buffer the new data slowing things down.But yet we can look at a 1.5gb GTX 580 matching and or outperforming a 2gb 7870 at 1920x1200.

Expensive dinner at Masa NYC restaurant (PC) vs pile of poo served on a plate (PS4)Tessellation

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Not by much and when games 4 years or 5 from now are using 5 GB of ram for video that card would be crying for low setting low res and chugging. Ram has big impact on performance,like i already demonstrated with the 7850 and the 650ti.tormentos

Your example of a 7850 vs 650ti is so flawed it isnt even funny... comparing a gpu with 192bit bus vs a gpu with 256bit bus, then GTX 650ti is slower then my 560... Having more memory does not magically make a gpu faster, again what happens is that when the gpu's buffer gets saturated and has to rely on the system memory to buffer the new data slowing things down.But yet we can look at a 1.5gb GTX 580 matching and or outperforming a 2gb 7870 at 1920x1200.

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Not by much and when games 4 years or 5 from now are using 5 GB of ram for video that card would be crying for low setting low res and chugging. Ram has big impact on performance,like i already demonstrated with the 7850 and the 650ti.tormentos

I hardly think so that next gen mutiplats will use 5GB vram at consol settings...

and if you don't like the HD7870 XT 2GB that he choose you can go with the HD7850/1Ghz with 4GB vram

[QUOTE="Tessellation"]Expensive dinner at Masa NYC restaurant (PC) vs pile of poo served on a plate (PS4)tormentos

look how easy is to upset this butthurt cow :cool: more crying please.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="tormentos"] That was the leak 1GB for OS and system,which is allot by the way the PS4 doesn't run i repeat doesn't run windows. The whole theory about the PS4 using half his ram for system and OS is created by people like 04dcarraher who fiercely refuse to admit that the PS4 will not use 4GB of ram for system and OS,i mean how could it be..? Not even game recording takes that much ram,you don't need on PC 4 GB of ram to use fraps,in fact fraps runs even on XP machines,the PS Vita has 512 MB for OS and system and works like a dream and can even multitask,and can do party chat.tormentos

I think he means a hard drive dedicated to the recordings.

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Recording video requires a dedicated harddrive.lostrib

I think he means a hard drive dedicated to the recordings.

I think he means a hard drive dedicated to the recordings.lostrib

[QUOTE="lostrib"]I think he means a hard drive dedicated to the recordings.tormentos

to deal with writing to the same hard drive the game is running on?

to deal with writing to the same hard drive the game is running on?lostrib

[QUOTE="lostrib"]to deal with writing to the same hard drive the game is running on?tormentos

Yeah, that wasnt clyde's point. Recording to the same hard drive drops the frame rate

Surprised this is still going on. Almost a week.

Surprised this is still going on. Almost a week.

Michael0134567

Yeah, it's pretty terrible

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Not by much and when games 4 years or 5 from now are using 5 GB of ram for video that card would be crying for low setting low res and chugging. Ram has big impact on performance,like i already demonstrated with the 7850 and the 650ti.tormentos

I hardly think so that next gen mutiplats will use 5GB vram at consol settings...

and if you don't like the HD7870 XT 2GB that he choose you can go with the HD7850/1Ghz with 4GB vram

You really need to understand that 7GB are not dedicated for video ram, some of that are for CPU, GPU, and just cache data. FACT is that low-end GPU like the HD7850 will perform just like the ps4. DEAL WITH IT.

and also it is a fact that quad core CPU with an 8800GTX back in 2006 was less expensive than the PS3 in the long run.(assuming that you buy 12 games per year)

[QUOTE="Tessellation"] look at the butthurt my post just caused to this dweller,already fearing that ps4 is going to have a core reserved and ram :cool: its ok to keep cryingtormentos

^

speaking of broken records

Yeah, that wasnt clyde's point. Recording to the same hard drive drops the frame ratelostrib

[QUOTE="lostrib"]Yeah, that wasnt clyde's point. Recording to the same hard drive drops the frame ratetormentos

Ah, so you don't know anything, just blind fanboyism. Not surprising

[QUOTE="Tessellation"] look at the butthurt my post just caused to this dweller,already fearing that ps4 is going to have a core reserved and ram :cool: its ok to keep cryingtormentos

nice butthurt essay :cool:

look how you keep crying :cool:

speaking of broken records

lostrib

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

speaking of broken records

tormentos

Not my fault you can't back up the stupid shit you say