i am a proud person who didnt buy MW2 like the rest 9 million people, are you?

[QUOTE="cainetao11"]Ahh, this thread is full of elitist BS. Yeah, we that bought the game are less of ____than those that didn't. It's a video game, not the battle for equal rights. Real noble work your doing guys. I play games because they are fun. alextherussian

I have more fun when I take that fun seriously and have to be practiced and disciplined at it. If I want to turn my brain off and mess around with a game for the evening I will play SMG.

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

I am no fan of Activision either and you can say what you want about Infinity Ward, but MW2 is simply an extremely well made blast of a game. I had my doubts and have been critical of it as well, but I am quite happy I bought it. As Activision was going to make a fortune regardless if I bought the game or not, so I decided I was not going to let my spite for Bobby Kotick and the antics of Activision stop me from enjoying one of the years best games. Hey, to each their own, though.

Kiyobear

I have always enjoyed the "sport" of FPS games. To me they are serious fun; as in I take my fun seriously. I am not suggesting they are a sport but I am talking about the spirit of skill based competition. I see CoD as a slap happy, run around drunk with your shirt off grabing girls by the ass axe body spray commercial, mess of a game.

Well done TC :)
Don't listen to the people who don't care. We'll soon see what they really paid for.

I didn't like the first one at all. I one of the few. All the power to the people who do enjoy it.

Whatever happened to the simply concept of fun, enjoyment, having a good time. If you like the style of the game then buy it, have a good time, enjoy yourself. This is after all the point of this grand old hobby of ours. You like video games (hopefully) because they entertain you.

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If you dislike the style of play then power too you. Nothing wrong with having an opinion of your own, that you can voice in a mature way and which isnt boiled down to a tantrum.

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If you however are holding out, bashing the game, and acting like a teen that just discover the implications of oral then I would argue you reevaluate your reasons for having this hobby.....

alextherussian

I think you totally miss the point and while suggesting you respect others who disagree with you, in fact youdo not. What have I said even remotely resembles a tantrum? I am being very clear and to the point as to why I don't respect MW players and why I don't like the direction CoD took.

Suggesting I don't like the game and think it's garbage is not a tantrum.

[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

I am no fan of Activision either and you can say what you want about Infinity Ward, but MW2 is simply an extremely well made blast of a game. I had my doubts and have been critical of it as well, but I am quite happy I bought it. As Activision was going to make a fortune regardless if I bought the game or not, so I decided I was not going to let my spite for Bobby Kotick and the antics of Activision stop me from enjoying one of the years best games. Hey, to each their own, though.

alextherussian

I have always enjoyed the "sport" of FPS games. To me they are serious fun; as in I take my fun seriously. I am not suggesting they are a sport but I am talking about the spirit of skill based competition. I see CoD as a slap happy, run around drunk with your shirt off grabing girls by the ass axe body spray commercial, mess of a game.

Again, you totally miss the point. I have more fun, I find my hobby more fulfilling, when I find it to be a serious challenge. What's the malfunction here? I enjoy a game more when I find it really, really hard.

Waitaminit - so, those of you who have 'held out' on buying MW2 are proud of yourselves for depriving yourselves of one of the best interactive entertainment experiences that money can buy? That doesn't make sense - if the game was poorly made, then that would be one thing, but...?67gt500

I think the game is poorly made and even if I did not my not buying would not be an act of the boycott but without community servers I just would not like it. I like well moderated servers where I don't need to hear racist garbage or things of that nature. I also like user made maps and the like.

Can't you see they removed that in order to push their own DLC? Yeah, that's fine, but I am not trying to prove a point to you or IW. I think the game is crap and want to express that opinion out loud.

those of you who have 'held out' on buying MW2 are proud of yourselves for depriving yourselves of one of the best interactive entertainment experiences that money can buy

67gt500

Unlikely... Even all the reviews says short, same as before, just little improvements, multi-player is as good/same as before.... Sorry but I've been there done that (A few times now) and really am not interested in what Activision and IW tell me to think.

Got MW and nothing they have said about MW2 says to me I really have to expereince MW2... Well... Nothing except the $150M marketing budget Activision has thrown at me.

Say what you want,but the singleplayer,although very alike the first one,is still a rush to play.

[QUOTE="67gt500"]

those of you who have 'held out' on buying MW2 are proud of yourselves for depriving yourselves of one of the best interactive entertainment experiences that money can buy

pattyp77

Unlikely... Even all the reviews says short, same as before, just little improvements, multi-player is as good/same as before.... Sorry but I've been there done that (A few times now) and really am not interested in what Activision and IW tell me to think.

Got MW and nothing they have said about MW2 says to me I really have to expereince MW2... Well... Nothing except the $150M marketing budget Activision has thrown at me.

The expansion pack to the first game was substantial and contained more new elements then this sequel appears to contain.

I do have an elitist attitude towards CoD. In the original game shooting from the hip was a bad idea and only reserved for panic type situations; though it was never as difficult as CS. It struck a nice balance between realism and action oriented game-play. Over all accuracy is easy to obtain in MW. The rifle, relative to other, more hardcore shooters, is very, very easy.

I do not feel the need to be a rebel and go against the grain I think it's a bad game, period. Though I do see CoD as pop culture crap for TDM players. Lacking ability to play CoD, gah, that makes me sad. How I wish for a return to the original game and the intensity it brought to MP gaming. From great community servers to disciplined game-play that focused on fire fights, not splash dmg foolishness.

Kiyobear

Shooting from the hip is also only used in panic situations in mw2, or when extremely close, there is a huge accuracy decrease when shooting from the hip.

All guns in mw2 are not %100 accurate, they have bullet grouping. i dont see accuracy as a problem.

Also, from experience i do not have a problem with 'splash damage' in mw2.

Maybe theres a reason mw2 is so popular, its a good game. Cant accept that? U mad?

[QUOTE="67gt500"]

those of you who have 'held out' on buying MW2 are proud of yourselves for depriving yourselves of one of the best interactive entertainment experiences that money can buy

Unlikely... Even all the reviews says short, same as before, just little improvements, multi-player is as good/same as before.... Sorry but I've been there done that (A few times now) and really am not interested in what Activision and IW tell me to think.

Got MW and nothing they have said about MW2 says to me I really have to expereince MW2... Well... Nothing except the $150M marketing budget Activision has thrown at me.

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

I am no fan of Activision either and you can say what you want about Infinity Ward, but MW2 is simply an extremely well made blast of a game. I had my doubts and have been critical of it as well, but I am quite happy I bought it. As Activision was going to make a fortune regardless if I bought the game or not, so I decided I was not going to let my spite for Bobby Kotick and the antics of Activision stop me from enjoying one of the years best games. Hey, to each their own, though.

Kiyobear

I have always enjoyed the "sport" of FPS games. To me they are serious fun; as in I take my fun seriously. I am not suggesting they are a sport but I am talking about the spirit of skill based competition. I see CoD as aslap happy, run around drunk with your shirt off grabing girls by the ass axe body spray commercial, mess of a game.

LOL, whatever floats your boat, man. I just happen to play games for fun as well, and MW2 more than fits the bill for me in that regard. It seems a few million other people happen to think so as well. Quite surprising, considering it is such a "mess of a game" and all.:P Oh, I know, 'Just a bunch of casuals and noobs', right? I mean, how dare they play top shelf games they find fun. We all know only noobs and casuals do that.;)

MW2's Metacritic Score on PC is currently at 87 Universal Acclaim (94 on console)... I think it's safe to say that it's a great game, marketing budget or not...

67gt500

Yup... I'm sure its amazing if I hadn't been killing terrorists over and over again for over 10yrs i'd prolly be right into it.

BTW - What would have happened to say Gamespots relationship with Activision if they dropped a "7/10: unoriginal" on Modern Warfare 2...?

Maybe MW2 is awesome or whatever... But reviews are made up of soooo much more then "Good/bad game"... You can't even comprehend how much Gamespot relies on Activision to keep sending them pre-release games, exclusive interviews, gift packs, etc, etc...

Never forget - BIG review sites are businesses and they must look after their most important customers - And their big customers are not you and me.

[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

I do have an elitist attitude towards CoD. In the original game shooting from the hip was a bad idea and only reserved for panic type situations; though it was never as difficult as CS. It struck a nice balance between realism and action oriented game-play. Over all accuracy is easy to obtain in MW. The rifle, relative to other, more hardcore shooters, is very, very easy.

I do not feel the need to be a rebel and go against the grain I think it's a bad game, period. Though I do see CoD as pop culture crap for TDM players. Lacking ability to play CoD, gah, that makes me sad. How I wish for a return to the original game and the intensity it brought to MP gaming. From great community servers to disciplined game-play that focused on fire fights, not splash dmg foolishness.

vikingm03

Shooting from the hip is also only used in panic situations in mw2, or when extremely close, there is a huge accuracy decrease when shooting from the hip.

All guns in mw2 are not %100 accurate, they have bullet grouping. i dont see accuracy as a problem.

Also, from experience i do not have a problem with 'splash damage' in mw2.

Maybe theres a reason mw2 is so popular, its a good game. Cant accept that? U mad?

Is it not obvious I am mad? If you have not experienced, what you see, as a game (franchise) you once loved falling from grace you have not been gaming for very long. Unlike other mediums, gamers feel an intense sense of ownership concerning their games. Which makes sense because, unlike other mediums, we participate directly with he developer as a full participant not just an observer. When that games popularity reaches such a peak that others emulate it an entire genre I was adored becomes something that I miss.

Yep, I love games, always have and always will. If something disappointed me or angers me (hate being the flip side of love) I speak out about it. I wouldn't hate CoD so much for what it has become if I had not loved so much what it was.

As for shooting from the hip, in MW, I found it very easy to run about and, as long as my reflexes were sharp, get the kill. Where as in games that suit me more, despite a sharp reflex, a player prepared to make a clean **** would prevail. You know, like an old west show down. Yeah, the guy who draws first we will win, if he hits you, but if he is rushing it odds are he will me. If you are deliberate and focused you will kill him more often then not.

I hated XBL style match making from the start (I started XBL during the beta and I like Xbox systems over all) and to see that invade the PC space is dissapointing to me to say the least.

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

[QUOTE="Merex760"]

I'll buy it when it's on sale in a year. Bad Company 2, now that's a game I'll buy day one.

Kiyobear

No harm in enjoying both. I am looking forward to the BETA, got my code today.

Is that received through a pre-order? Is the beta on the PC? If it's not received via pre-order how did you get your hands on it?

File Planet was giving them for free simply for registering on their site. I got my code today, so you might want to go check.

*edit* Oh, and it is PS3 only.

[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

I am no fan of Activision either and you can say what you want about Infinity Ward, but MW2 is simply an extremely well made blast of a game. I had my doubts and have been critical of it as well, but I am quite happy I bought it. As Activision was going to make a fortune regardless if I bought the game or not, so I decided I was not going to let my spite for Bobby Kotick and the antics of Activision stop me from enjoying one of the years best games. Hey, to each their own, though.

ironcreed

I have always enjoyed the "sport" of FPS games. To me they are serious fun; as in I take my fun seriously. I am not suggesting they are a sport but I am talking about the spirit of skill based competition. I see CoD as aslap happy, run around drunk with your shirt off grabing girls by the ass axe body spray commercial, mess of a game.

LOL, whatever floats your boat, man. I just happen to play games for fun as well, and MW2 more than fits the bill for me in that regard. It seems a few million other people happen to think so as well. Quite surprising, considering it is such a "mess of a game" and all.:P Oh, I know, 'Just a bunch of casuals and noobs', right? I mean, how dare they play top shelf games they find fun. We all know only noobs and casuals do that.;)

At what point did I suggest anything other then what you are talking about? I have been open and clear with my being in the minority and, if you have never noticed, pop culture fads are often crap. That's special that millions of people think otherwise, and yes I am saying that is idiotic; like many things the kiddies make popular.

I have also said how I don't think that makes the person an idiot, just in regards to this game and liking, yeah. Should I lie and pretend it doesn't tick me off? I think it's more respectfull to just tell you what I think. I am sure much of what I do you would find to be in poor taste.

[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

No harm in enjoying both. I am looking forward to the BETA, got my code today.

ironcreed

Is that received through a pre-order? Is the beta on the PC? If it's not received via pre-order how did you get your hands on it?

File Planet was giving them for free simply for registering on their site. I got my code today, so you might want to go check.

*edit* Oh, and it is PS3 only.

Hmmmm, I usually avoid beta testing because I like to be addicted to a totally fresh game when it hits stores but I feel so shooter starved I may look into this one. I do own a ps3 so that's all good. In fact, that is the system I played the first game on and when I discovered I actually like the ps3 pad for shooters. Give me the M&k any day, but the pad in no way hampered my enjoyment of the game. I also found the ps3 community for the game to be solid.

Is it not obvious I am mad? If you have not experienced, what you see, as a game (franchise) you once loved falling from grace you have not been gaming for very long. Unlike other mediums, gamers feel an intense sense of ownership concerning their games. Which makes sense because, unlike other mediums, we participate directly with he developer as a full participant not just an observer. When that games popularity reaches such a peak that others emulate it an entire genre I was adored becomes something that I miss.

Yep, I love games, always have and always will. If something disappointed me or angers me (hate being the flip side of love) I speak out about it. I wouldn't hate CoD so much for what it has become if I had not loved so much what it was.

As for shooting from the hip, in MW, I found it very easy to run about and, as long as my reflexes were sharp, get the kill. Where as in games that suit me more, despite a sharp reflex, a player prepared to make a clean **** would prevail. You know, like an old west show down. Yeah, the guy who draws first we will win, if he hits you, but if he is rushing it odds are he will me. If you are deliberate and focused you will kill him more often then not.

I hated XBL style match making from the start (I started XBL during the beta and I like Xbox systems over all) and to see that invade the PC space is dissapointing to me to say the least.

Kiyobear

*he thinks mw2 has overly accurate guns*

*his favorite games are where no matter who has the first draw, whoever is more accurate wins*

OBJECTION! there are clear contradictions in this statement!

At what point did I suggest anything other then what you are talking about? I have been open and clear with my being in the minority and, if you have never noticed, pop culture fads are often crap. That's special that millions of people think otherwise, and yes I am saying that is idiotic; like many things the kiddies make popular.

Kiyobear

Alright, you are being civil about it. Sorry I came off as a bit harsh there.

I understand where you are coming from completely regarding commercialized, regurgitated mass market appeal. However, regardless of the popularity and the blatant shafting of PC gamers, I just happen to find that MW2 is far from being 'crap.' It is actually extremely well made and very satisfying to play...kind of what it's all about, ya know? Point being, not everything that has mass market appeal is trash. No, it may not be as hardcore as the series once was, but it is in no way a horrible game, lol. I guess that much will have to be determined in the eye of the beholder, though.

[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

Is it not obvious I am mad? If you have not experienced, what you see, as a game (franchise) you once loved falling from grace you have not been gaming for very long. Unlike other mediums, gamers feel an intense sense of ownership concerning their games. Which makes sense because, unlike other mediums, we participate directly with he developer as a full participant not just an observer. When that games popularity reaches such a peak that others emulate it an entire genre I was adored becomes something that I miss.

Yep, I love games, always have and always will. If something disappointed me or angers me (hate being the flip side of love) I speak out about it. I wouldn't hate CoD so much for what it has become if I had not loved so much what it was.

As for shooting from the hip, in MW, I found it very easy to run about and, as long as my reflexes were sharp, get the kill. Where as in games that suit me more, despite a sharp reflex, a player prepared to make a clean **** would prevail. You know, like an old west show down. Yeah, the guy who draws first we will win, if he hits you, but if he is rushing it odds are he will me. If you are deliberate and focused you will kill him more often then not.

I hated XBL style match making from the start (I started XBL during the beta and I like Xbox systems over all) and to see that invade the PC space is dissapointing to me to say the least.

vikingm03

*he thinks mw2 has overly accurate guns*

*his favorite games are where no matter who has the first draw, whoever is more accurate wins*

OBJECTION! there are clear contradictions in this statement!

Jeez man, some critical thinking lessons may help your reading comprehension. I clearly said that in games I like a player needs to be prepared to make an accurate shot and that in CoD you do NOT need to be set up to shoot with reliable accuracy.

I mean come on man, how do you get through school if you can not understand what you read?

[QUOTE="alextherussian"][QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

I have always enjoyed the "sport" of FPS games. To me they are serious fun; as in I take my fun seriously. I am not suggesting they are a sport but I am talking about the spirit of skill based competition. I see CoD as a slap happy, run around drunk with your shirt off grabing girls by the ass axe body spray commercial, mess of a game.

Kiyobear

Again, you totally miss the point. I have more fun, I find my hobby more fulfilling, when I find it to be a serious challenge. What's the malfunction here? I enjoy a game more when I find it really, really hard.

[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

At what point did I suggest anything other then what you are talking about? I have been open and clear with my being in the minority and, if you have never noticed, pop culture fads are often crap. That's special that millions of people think otherwise, and yes I am saying that is idiotic; like many things the kiddies make popular.

ironcreed

Alright, you are being civil about it. Sorry I came off as a bit harsh there.

I understand where you are coming from completely regarding commercialized, regurgitated mass market appeal. However, regardless of the popularity and the blatant shafting of PC gamers, I just happen to find that MW2 is far from being 'crap.' It is actually extremely well made and very satisfying to play...kind of what it's all about, ya know? Point being, not everything that has mass market appeal is trash. No, it may not be as hardcore as the series once was, but it is in no way a horrible game, lol. I guess that much will have to be determined in the eye of the beholder, though.

Nah, we are on the same page and jsut disagreeing and I am down with that. Really, what is getting me mad is those that do not understand what I write. You are, we have just had a few honest misunderstandings, which, you know, happens.

You're right, not everything that reaches a peak of pop culture is crap but I disagree with you that this is not the case with CoD. Still, like I said, I am sure there are instances where we would stand on the opposite side of things. Something I like that you would think is just a fad.

However, I urge you to at least consider what I am suggesting about the game the next time you play. Now, I fully except that it will likely just reinforce your own, favorable opinion of the game. But can I not hope you change your mind?

[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

[QUOTE="alextherussian"] Yes, Counter Strike is serious, seducing a girl in a business meeting business...its super serialalextherussian

Again, you totally miss the point. I have more fun, I find my hobby more fulfilling, when I find it to be a serious challenge. What's the malfunction here? I enjoy a game more when I find it really, really hard.

I never once tried to justify it; I only explain why I do and state that I do. I'm not trying to justify it and totally except the fact that, in this instance because it is a game were are talking about, itis full fledged nerd rage.

I am not acting holier then thou. The irony is I think you are.

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

At what point did I suggest anything other then what you are talking about? I have been open and clear with my being in the minority and, if you have never noticed, pop culture fads are often crap. That's special that millions of people think otherwise, and yes I am saying that is idiotic; like many things the kiddies make popular.

Kiyobear

Alright, you are being civil about it. Sorry I came off as a bit harsh there.

I understand where you are coming from completely regarding commercialized, regurgitated mass market appeal. However, regardless of the popularity and the blatant shafting of PC gamers, I just happen to find that MW2 is far from being 'crap.' It is actually extremely well made and very satisfying to play...kind of what it's all about, ya know? Point being, not everything that has mass market appeal is trash. No, it may not be as hardcore as the series once was, but it is in no way a horrible game, lol. I guess that much will have to be determined in the eye of the beholder, though.

Nah, we are on the same page and jsut disagreeing and I am down with that. Really, what is getting me mad is those that do not understand what I am write. You are, we have just had a few honest misunderstandings, which, you know, happens.

You're right, not everything that reaches a peak of pop culture is crap but I disagree with you that this is not the case with CoD. Still, like I said, I am sure there are instances where we would stand on the opposite side of things. Something I like that you would think is just a fad.

However, I urge you to at least consider what I am suggesting about the game the next time you play. Now, I fully except that it will likely just reinforce your own, favorable opinion of the game. But can I not hope you change your mind?

No, I will not be changing my mind, lol. Either you like a game or you don't and I happen to dig MW2 quite a bit. I do respect your opinion, though.:D

[QUOTE="pattyp77"]

[QUOTE="67gt500"]

those of you who have 'held out' on buying MW2 are proud of yourselves for depriving yourselves of one of the best interactive entertainment experiences that money can buy

67gt500

Unlikely... Even all the reviews says short, same as before, just little improvements, multi-player is as good/same as before.... Sorry but I've been there done that (A few times now) and really am not interested in what Activision and IW tell me to think.

Got MW and nothing they have said about MW2 says to me I really have to expereince MW2... Well... Nothing except the $150M marketing budget Activision has thrown at me.

I think it's safe to say that it's better to listen to user impressions and make up your own mind than to rely on sources which benefit from having good relations with publishers of the games they're supposed to criticize.

In case you didn't hear, Activision didn't send out review copies, but instead arranged a three hour review event for those who wanted to publish early reviews.
Kotaku

Most of the higher rated reviews either don't mention the big issue, or make some copout excuse for not having it affect the score. I have doubts some of them even bothered installing the game.

A German magazine was told by Ubisoft that they'd only receive a review copy if a high score was guaranteed.
Destructoid

Jeez man, some critical thinking lessons may help your reading comprehension. I clearly said that in games I like a player needs to be prepared to make an accurate shot and that in CoD you do NOT need to be set up to shoot with reliable accuracy.

I mean come one man, how do you get through school if you can not understand what you read?

Kiyobear

*same sentence would not pass in any english class*

Also, while im not entirely sure, due to your constant lack of proper explanation (see: rifles are very very easy...) of what you mean by being "prepared", if you are talking about stance, such as standing and prone, then in mw2 being prepared is hugely important.

[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

Alright, you are being civil about it. Sorry I came off as a bit harsh there.

I understand where you are coming from completely regarding commercialized, regurgitated mass market appeal. However, regardless of the popularity and the blatant shafting of PC gamers, I just happen to find that MW2 is far from being 'crap.' It is actually extremely well made and very satisfying to play...kind of what it's all about, ya know? Point being, not everything that has mass market appeal is trash. No, it may not be as hardcore as the series once was, but it is in no way a horrible game, lol. I guess that much will have to be determined in the eye of the beholder, though.

ironcreed

Nah, we are on the same page and jsut disagreeing and I am down with that. Really, what is getting me mad is those that do not understand what I am write. You are, we have just had a few honest misunderstandings, which, you know, happens.

You're right, not everything that reaches a peak of pop culture is crap but I disagree with you that this is not the case with CoD. Still, like I said, I am sure there are instances where we would stand on the opposite side of things. Something I like that you would think is just a fad.

However, I urge you to at least consider what I am suggesting about the game the next time you play. Now, I fully except that it will likely just reinforce your own, favorable opinion of the game. But can I not hope you change your mind?

No, I will not be changing my mind, lol. Either you like a game or you don't and I happen to dig MW2 quite a bit. I do respect your opinion, though.:D

Ahhhhhh, you are reasonable enough; there is a slim chance that, after considering my opinion, you will note things about the game-play you did not before. I would do the same but because of the lack of servers I just have no interest. My PC community is my home online, I even pitch in with donations to my servers. Without that community the game would feel like a vacuum. Again, I am not pretending to punish IW for it, just stating the simple fact that I prefer community servers and despise XBL style match making. Which, to me, is a massive part of the online experience.

[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

Jeez man, some critical thinking lessons may help your reading comprehension. I clearly said that in games I like a player needs to be prepared to make an accurate shot and that in CoD you do NOT need to be set up to shoot with reliable accuracy.

I mean come one man, how do you get through school if you can not understand what you read?

vikingm03

*same sentence would not pass in any english class*

Also, while im not entirely sure, due to your constant lack of proper explanation (see: rifles are very very easy...) of what you mean by being "prepared", if you are talking about stance, such as standing and prone, then in mw2 being prepared is hugely important.

Pointing out an an obvious typo in a forum post is a clear sign of failure. My explanation is plain as day. The fact that is lost on you baffles me. You fail to understand even the simplest of concepts.

To disgree is one thing, to miss the point is another.

[QUOTE="alextherussian"][QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

Again, you totally miss the point. I have more fun, I find my hobby more fulfilling, when I find it to be a serious challenge. What's the malfunction here? I enjoy a game more when I find it really, really hard.

Kiyobear

I never once tried to justify it; I only explain why I do and state that I do. I'm not trying to justify it and totally except the fact that, in this instance because it is a game were are talking about, itis full fledged nerd rage.

I am not acting holier then thou. The irony is I think you are.

[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

[QUOTE="alextherussian"] Why would I be serious, you specifically say you hate COD players, and then try and justify that in some ludicrous way. Explaining why you don't like a game is good and all, then turning around and saying you hate the community of said game is pretty low....alextherussian

I never once tried to justify it; I only explain why I do and state that I do. I'm not trying to justify it and totally except the fact that, in this instance because it is a game were are talking about, itis full fledged nerd rage.

I am not acting holier then thou. The irony is I think you are.

Fair enough. This isn't happy feel good hour, a few insults never hurt anyone.

Pointing out an an obvious typo in a forum post is a clear sign of failure. My explanation is plain as day.The fact that is lost on you baffles me. You fail to understand even the simplest of concepts.

To disgree is one thing, to miss the point is another.

Kiyobear

There is a second error there. Your points are unclear as can be. You like games where you need to be prepared to shoot... like body position? morally (i hope its not this...)? what are you whining about? Anyways, im done with this pointless debate. You can dislike the game all you want, but to be angry about a game being popular because you think other games are better is stupid. Your arguments are flawed. Enjoy being in the elitist minority, and enjoy your 'hardcore' shooters, ill enjoy my goty contender.

[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

Pointing out an an obvious typo in a forum post is a clear sign of failure. My explanation is plain as day.The fact that is lost on you baffles me. You fail to understand even the simplest of concepts.

To disgree is one thing, to miss the point is another.

vikingm03

There is a second error there. Your points are unclear as can be. You like games where you need to be prepared to shoot... like body position? morally (i hope its not this...)? what are you whining about? Anyways, im done with this pointless debate. You can dislike the game all you want, but to be angry about a game being popular because you think other games are better is stupid. Your arguments are flawed. Enjoy being in the elitist minority, and enjoy your 'hardcore' shooters, ill enjoy my goty contender.

Man, you're really not clicking here. Yeah, body position is, or should be, critical to accurate fire. One should be set up to fire their weapon, not running around wildly. This point was clearly implied by what I stated.

Run little rabit run.

Didn't want it so I didn't buy it, there are other uses of my $60.

I bought the game, however sold it for $55 Monday. I beat the campaign in less than 3 hrs, but still wanted to finsh Spec Ops. I used a free rental I had to pick game back up & currently finishing up Spec Ops now.

I think your just a person who thinks to deeply into video games. Modern Warfare 2 was a very good game and theres just no arguing with that (the console versions at least). And how is MW2 like the previous CODs? It could only be similar to COD4. And its called a sequel. Your not supposed to change every thing about the game.

I think your just a person who thinks to deeply into video games. Modern Warfare 2 was a very good game and theres just no arguing with that (the console versions at least). And how is MW2 like the previous CODs? It could only be similar to COD4. And its called a sequel. Your not supposed to change every thing about the game.

ColdP1zza

One can never think to deeply about anything, especially their hobby.

I didn't buy it either, but i think thats due to a genrally low interest for FPS's.

Anyway i have the first CoD and United offensive, I'm quite okay with "just" that.

The single player and multiplayer are top notch, I did not and will not be buying it simply because I could not connect to an online game, and on splitscreen it kept freezing after the match. Soured my experience. The single player, however was pretty good from what I played.

Did I miss Spec Ops on the original game? I don't recall that being available before & it is an awesome addition.

proud non owner here, lol

[QUOTE="alextherussian"][QUOTE="cainetao11"]Ahh, this thread is full of elitist BS. Yeah, we that bought the game are less of ____than those that didn't. It's a video game, not the battle for equal rights. Real noble work your doing guys. I play games because they are fun. Kiyobear

I have more fun when I take that fun seriously and have to be practiced and disciplined at it. If I want to turn my brain off and mess around with a game for the evening I will play SMG.

It does not matter. The game is going to sell 15-20 million copies and makes millions more from DLC. Activision is unstoppable so long as they have MW.