I hate the fact that hip hop is taking over as the lead genre of music in games.

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#251 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]because like Rap has become crap. SO has popular rock. I dont wanna listen to some emo crap when im playing Madden. I dont wanna listen to no dang 50 or Game or Jeezy either. Music has lost alot of greats over the year. Really music sucks now. Nintendo_Ownes7
That's Why I only listen to music from the 60's - Early 90's because those music had great music, also Classical music sometimes.

exactly the only rock band worth mentioning lately is Linkin Park and even they arent traditional rock. They do have that Korn type deal going on. but more extreme to that hip hop nature a little. Also the guy who said 2pac is overrated. STFU!!!!!!!!!! U FAIL AT LIFE!!!!!!!!!
Are u kidding me the underground rappers are the ones that are trash. Papoose is a great example. He has been overrated all these years for what. Nothing. He sucks. His music is just as generic as other modern day rappers.
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#252 DSgamer64
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thats why the 360 has custom soundtracks, even though my music preference is rap

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Not all games support it though, Excite Truck on the Wii is the only game for the console that supports the use of the SD card slot. That being said, I hope more racing games allow for the use of custom songs on your storage device, whether it be a USB drive or an SD card, racing games especially need that. I dont mind some modern hip hop but I am a diehard rock guy as well so I prefer to listen to music that I am more familiar with as opposed to garbage like 50 Cent, I would rather take Nelly or Wu Tang Clan just because the music is more fun to my ears I guess, there are some hip hop and rap artists I like that are mainstream, and others I hate.

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[QUOTE="guitboxdude25"][QUOTE="twags82"][QUOTE="guitboxdude25"]

[QUOTE="PSBox3SixWi"]damn it gets irritating. how about some rock?Silenthps

you sir,are my hero

Your sig speaks volumes about "rock" now.

No thank you, metal is the only thing I listen to.

yah,but i still call my music rock,and i said mostly,if you search around,youcan find some good rock.

if you search around, you can find some good hiphop too

sure sure i suppose,when its not about disrespecting women,fighting,killing shooting,f-ing,your money,etc,etc

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#254 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="guitboxdude25"][QUOTE="twags82"][QUOTE="guitboxdude25"]

[QUOTE="PSBox3SixWi"]damn it gets irritating. how about some rock?guitboxdude25

you sir,are my hero

Your sig speaks volumes about "rock" now.

No thank you, metal is the only thing I listen to.

yah,but i still call my music rock,and i said mostly,if you search around,youcan find some good rock.

if you search around, you can find some good hiphop too

sure sure i suppose,when its not about disrespecting women,fighting,killing shooting,f-ing,your money,etc,etc

2pac, Biggie, Eminem, Jay-z, Nas, 50s first album(was actually very good, he actually showed talent in that one), Run DMC, Dr. Dre, etc. Rap sucks now. I hate what has happened to Rap and the rest of hip hop. But the same has happened to rock. The reality is music in general has lost its flare. I mean there is not great rapper no more. maybe Kanya but hes no Jay-Z or Eminem or Nas who IMO are the last great rappers. as for Rock. Thats one giant sellout IMO. Rock use to be about raw emotion, talent, and was true art. Now its emo trash.
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#255 WeAreToast
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Actually, a lot of music was probably real art until the mainstream decided to paint over it.

[QUOTE="Mkavanaugh77"]

thats why the 360 has custom soundtracks, even though my music preference is rap

DSgamer64

Not all games support it though, Excite Truck on the Wii is the only game for the console that supports the use of the SD card slot. That being said, I hope more racing games allow for the use of custom songs on your storage device, whether it be a USB drive or an SD card, racing games especially need that. I dont mind some modern hip hop but I am a diehard rock guy as well so I prefer to listen to music that I am more familiar with as opposed to garbage like 50 Cent, I would rather take Nelly or Wu Tang Clan just because the music is more fun to my ears I guess, there are some hip hop and rap artists I like that are mainstream, and others I hate.

Yes, every system needs a customizable soundtrack option. The Wii's not the most powerful new system, but Nintendo might want to pay attention to requests. Now we can probably trace this topic back to system wars. 

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I agree that Rap sucks, but modern "Rock" isn't any better...Other than a few metal bands in my opinion music as a whole went down the toilet in the last 15 years. LOL to the people who want to hear more POP in games .:roll: My favorite genre of music is thrash metal but I can listen to just about anything, even rap as long as it's 80's rap, you know where they sang about food and partys mostly :D. I miss the original game soundtracks that many of the PS 1 games had with rockin guitar tracks, the racer Peak Performance for example comes to mind. What I'd really like to see in game is some good ol street level thrash, bands like Abattoir, Blessed Death, Carnivore, Destructor, Slaughter (Can), Exodus, Venom etc.. Classic rock would be fine too.
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[QUOTE="guitboxdude25"]

 

"Look its like this When Certain Races see Blacks shine no matter if its hip hop or whatever they wanna hate and its appauling"

jimi hendrix,thin lizzy,in living colour,lenny kravitz...

"Rock is responsible for some of the weirdest stuff ive ever seen and i dont complain about Rock in games and ppl Devil Worshiping and stuff"

lol.no kind of music can make someone worship the devil..its in the personality.plus its usually people who like death metal who tend to act that way

"but ppl wanna bash hip hop cause the are ignorat Racist fools"

wha-wha-WHAT!wait wait..lol i have to get this right..because i dont like that type of music(i said music,it seems like you can determine between race and music)im racist?!?!im sorry,but thats just..just..woah.

"its our thing and we created it.... "

actually it was created by a middle aged white guy(originally it wasnt as "explicit" though)

"it just seems that ppl wanna bash hip hop just to make fun of Black ppl"

i bash hip hop because its the worse type of "music" in the world.

"but youd rather make you Sub-Racist comments about our genre"

im sorry,who owns as genre?just want to know because im thinking of buying classic rock.

.". what about Eminem hes not Black he didnt talk about slappin h??s and stuff he is one of the greats lyricists of all times..."

your right,hed rather talk about killing family memebers....good guy...greatist lyricist?!?!(sighs)

"and just to thing ppl like yall made the same type of Idiotic insults back in the day and said that hip Hop is a Fad and a trend but look at it now... "

yah..its still a trendyfad,because any old suburban dude can be a gangsta by putting on a 50 cent cd in a lowrider,pumpin the base and acting the fool.

"so i say hate on you racist haters cause its obvious that you are Racist"

you are the one who implied that all black people are rappers(and apparently "own" the genre)

gangster rap sucks man,of course this is my own opinion,but i had to counter.dont even try to say im racist,my great aunt is black and i love her very much.if you must associate racism with genres of music,then associate it with the blues(bb king,muddy waters anyone)because those are some real people.amazing singers and songwriters,and not just some kid with a additude who can talk in rhyme really fast.

 

Eubanks360

ok rock is garbage why is it in Games wearing tight a$$ pants and lil shirts isnt cool but yet ppl listen to it and whats so cool about smashing guitars well idk why im even trying to defend my music genre cause its evident that some ppl in this thread dont like hip hop and most dont like black ppl like ppl that display the rebel flag are prolly mostly racists so keep listing to that trash you call rock and ill listen the DOCTORS AVOCATE

" IM THE MOST ANTISIPATED MOST CELEBRATED MOST LOVED AND THE MUTHA F????? MOST HATED"- THE GAME-

and that explains Rap and Hip Hop because Hip hop is dead and yall are the ppl that killed it so in a way i do agree only to the fact that ppl think its cool to listen to rap but 10 years ago ppl thought rap is garbage rock is and will always be garbage.. like i said hip hop is dead cause yall are the same type of ppl that killed it.. on the other hand idc if you dont like our music dont listen to it without Hip hop in games games like madden 2k sports live and stuff would fail with the most minorities so hate on haters cause Hip Hop/ Rap cannot be stoped... BTW Nas is the greatest Lyrisist of all NAS time..... and The Game is a ganstar rapper but has interesting things he says in rymes

this is why hip hop is dead.... "Hanus Crimes help record sales more than creative minds" - Nas-

but anyway hate on rap all you want its not going anywhere

People dont hate rap because its black. It's because its basically a bunch of blacks acting retarded hopin up n down like monkeys with their chains, rims and grillz. Black people are making fun of themselves. If anything, whites are less racist for hating rap since they dont like the site of the black race making fun of itself.

 Hiphop is not dead, its just underground. It's dead in the mainstream because the industry (aka the real racist) would rather take a black man, make him talk about sex,drugs and money so they can sell records, than take a powerful black man with a strong message who isnt tempted by money and fame.

And btw, in 2007, "the black man" doesn't mean having black skin and "the white man" doesnt mean having white skin. Instead "The black man" means the poor - middle class person and "the white man" is the rich corporate elite. Black and white is just symbolism, the war is no longer of race, its of economy. 

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Guitar Hero soundtrack FTW 8)
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I agree that Rap sucks, but modern "Rock" isn't any better...Other than a few metal bands in my opinion music as a whole went down the toilet in the last 15 years. LOL to the people who want to hear more POP in games .:roll: My favorite genre of music is thrash metal but I can listen to just about anything, even rap as long as it's 80's rap, you know where they sang about food and partys mostly :D. I miss the original game soundtracks that many of the PS 1 games had with rockin guitar tracks, the racer Peak Performance for example comes to mind. What I'd really like to see in game is some good ol street level thrash, bands like Abattoir, Blessed Death, Carnivore, Destructor, Slaughter (Can), Exodus, Venom etc.. Classic rock would be fine too.360dodge

Yeah, modern rock's a whole lot of crap.  That seems to be the way the music industry's going.  I'm definitely not into any of these artists, but two perfect examples are Nelly Furtado and Avril Lavigne, in that both seem to be rapidly regressing as songwriters and artists, and whavever shred of respect I had for them as such has been completely wiped out.  In my opinion, the only new bands (within the past 5 years) worth mentioning these days are Bloc Party, Kaiser Chiefs and Arctic Monkeys (all UK, so take from that what you will).

AAANNNNNNND, since this is in the system wars thread: one of the things I really loved about the first Xbox was the custom soundtrack option, which allowed me to put GOOD music (classic rock) into games and avoid all the hip-hop and modern rock garbage.

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[QUOTE="guitboxdude25"][QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="guitboxdude25"][QUOTE="twags82"][QUOTE="guitboxdude25"]

[QUOTE="PSBox3SixWi"]damn it gets irritating. how about some rock?jg4xchamp

you sir,are my hero

Your sig speaks volumes about "rock" now.

No thank you, metal is the only thing I listen to.

yah,but i still call my music rock,and i said mostly,if you search around,youcan find some good rock.

if you search around, you can find some good hiphop too

sure sure i suppose,when its not about disrespecting women,fighting,killing shooting,f-ing,your money,etc,etc

2pac, Biggie, Eminem, Jay-z, Nas, 50s first album(was actually very good, he actually showed talent in that one), Run DMC, Dr. Dre, etc. Rap sucks now. I hate what has happened to Rap and the rest of hip hop. But the same has happened to rock. The reality is music in general has lost its flare. I mean there is not great rapper no more. maybe Kanya but hes no Jay-Z or Eminem or Nas who IMO are the last great rappers. as for Rock. Thats one giant sellout IMO. Rock use to be about raw emotion, talent, and was true art. Now its emo trash.

People try to blame the artists for the music industries downfall, when its not 100% the fault of musicians. Ok yeah there is a lot of crappy music out there today and everyone likes different genres, however all the pop, emo and trashy hip hop, is not representitive of good musicians. In my opinion, there are still some good rappers out there, or at least there were, just like there are still some good rockers out there. All record labels care about these days is making a quick buck off the next big pop sensation, even if they suck big time, it has been that way for more then a decade.

Most of the rappers you listed I would agree with as being solid artists, however I think Eminem is an insult to rappers because he does not represent what real rappers are about (maybe its because he is white, or he doesnt rap about the things other rappers do). Like I said, there are some good rockers out there still, some decent newer bands like Green Day, Wolfmother, The Darkness and some older rockers like Motley Crue, Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, David Gilmour (of Pink Floyd fame), Randy Bachman and Burton Cummings from The Guess Who, The Rolling Stones, Muse, Radiohead, Rage Against the Machine, AC/DC, etc all who still make music and tour from time to time. Yeah sure Wolfmother may not be a great rock band but at least they have chops and some talent, unlike all the whining emo girly boy bands like MCR, The Used and pretty much every other post hardcore crap band who whines and moans about how pathetic their lives are. I think for rock music, from the time of Kurt Cobain's death, rock music in itself has gone on a terrible land slide and has only recently started to recover a little bit.

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[QUOTE="guitboxdude25"]

 

"Look its like this When Certain Races see Blacks shine no matter if its hip hop or whatever they wanna hate and its appauling"

 jimi hendrix,thin lizzy,in living colour,lenny kravitz...

"Rock is responsible for some of the weirdest stuff ive ever seen and i dont complain about Rock in games and ppl Devil Worshiping and stuff"

 lol.no kind of music can make someone worship the devil..its in the personality.plus its usually people who like death metal who tend to act that way

 "but ppl wanna bash hip hop cause the are ignorat Racist fools"

 wha-wha-WHAT!wait wait..lol i have to get this right..because i dont like that type of music(i said music,it seems like you can determine between race and music)im racist?!?!im sorry,but thats just..just..woah.

 "its our thing and we created it.... "

 actually it was created by a middle aged white guy(originally it wasnt as "explicit" though)

"it just seems that ppl wanna bash hip hop just to make fun of Black ppl"

 i bash hip hop because its the worse type of "music" in the world.

"but youd rather make you Sub-Racist comments about our genre"

 im sorry,who owns as genre?just want to know because im thinking of buying classic rock.

.". what about Eminem hes not Black he didnt talk about slappin h??s and stuff he is one of the greats lyricists of all times..."

 your right,hed rather talk about killing family memebers....good guy...greatist lyricist?!?!(sighs)

 "and just to thing ppl like yall made the same type of Idiotic insults back in the day and said that hip Hop is a Fad and a trend but look at it now... "

yah..its still a trendyfad,because any old suburban dude can be a  gangsta by putting on a 50 cent cd in a lowrider,pumpin the base and acting the fool.

 "so i say hate on you racist haters cause its obvious that you are Racist"

you are the one who implied that all black people are rappers(and apparently "own" the genre)

gangster rap sucks man,of course this is my own opinion,but i had to counter.dont even try to say im racist,my great aunt is black and i love her very much.if you must associate racism with genres of music,then associate it with the blues(bb king,muddy waters anyone)because those are some real people.amazing singers and songwriters,and not just some kid with a additude who can talk in rhyme really fast.

 

Eubanks360

"ok rock is garbage why is it in Games wearing tight a$$ pants and lil shirts isnt cool but yet ppl listen to it"

 umm sorry.cant understand what you are saying.i dont think you can listen to tight a$$ pants and lil shirts.

 and whats so cool about smashing guitars well idk why im even trying to defend my music genre cause its evident that some ppl in this thread dont like hip hop and most dont like black ppl"

 how do you figure?has anyone said the words "i hate black people"?

"ike ppl that display the rebel flag are prolly mostly racists so keep listing to that trash you call rock and ill listen the DOCTORS AVOCATE"

true.most people who display the rebel flag are ignorant hicks.but they listen to country.not rock.and rocknot trash.

" that explains Rap and Hip Hop because Hip hop is dead and yall are the ppl that killed it"

 i killed it?explain to me how?

" in a way i do agree only to the fact that ppl think its cool to listen to rap but 10 years ago ppl thought rap is garbage"

no,rap 10 years ago was good,rap now sucks.its just not the same anymore,its to much of the same thing,whichis fighting,killing and ho's and they get praised for it because lil white kids think its gangster but "real a$$ gangsters dont flex nuts,cause real a$$ gangsters now they got em"-ghetto boys

 

"rock is and will always be garbage."

 why?do you actually not like it or is it the fact that the mojority of people who listen to it are white

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[QUOTE="guitboxdude25"][QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="guitboxdude25"][QUOTE="twags82"][QUOTE="guitboxdude25"]

[QUOTE="PSBox3SixWi"]damn it gets irritating. how about some rock?jg4xchamp

you sir,are my hero

Your sig speaks volumes about "rock" now.

No thank you, metal is the only thing I listen to.

yah,but i still call my music rock,and i said mostly,if you search around,youcan find some good rock.

if you search around, you can find some good hiphop too

sure sure i suppose,when its not about disrespecting women,fighting,killing shooting,f-ing,your money,etc,etc

2pac, Biggie, Eminem, Jay-z, Nas, 50s first album(was actually very good, he actually showed talent in that one), Run DMC, Dr. Dre, etc. Rap sucks now. I hate what has happened to Rap and the rest of hip hop. But the same has happened to rock. The reality is music in general has lost its flare. I mean there is not great rapper no more. maybe Kanya but hes no Jay-Z or Eminem or Nas who IMO are the last great rappers. as for Rock. Thats one giant sellout IMO. Rock use to be about raw emotion, talent, and was true art. Now its emo trash.

Nas is allright but eminem sucks (imo)yep,totally agree on you with that one.(read my sig)

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1) Green Day isn't a new band. They were around longer than Muse. (I'm referring to DSgamer64's post)

2) Let's try to turn this topic around so it doesn't turn into a race wars topic.

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im not ganna bash rap or rock here..(rap happens to be my favorite)....i will sa htis though...if you look to mtv and mainstream radio for all of your music pleasure your ganna get crap...from both styles of music...hell even country...

and just a side thought..not everyone is ganna like what type of music you like..that will never ever change...it just a fact that some people in here are ganna have to get over....

this thread is going to continue on and on and it will never be resolved...at any rate its fun to read people bashing on other races so i can shake my head and laugh and wonder how they make it thru life...

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[QUOTE="Eubanks360"][QUOTE="guitboxdude25"]

"Look its like this When Certain Races see Blacks shine no matter if its hip hop or whatever they wanna hate and its appauling"

 jimi hendrix,thin lizzy,in living colour,lenny kravitz...

"Rock is responsible for some of the weirdest stuff ive ever seen and i dont complain about Rock in games and ppl Devil Worshiping and stuff"

 lol.no kind of music can make someone worship the devil..its in the personality.plus its usually people who like death metal who tend to act that way

 "but ppl wanna bash hip hop cause the are ignorat Racist fools"

 wha-wha-WHAT!wait wait..lol i have to get this right..because i dont like that type of music(i said music,it seems like you can determine between race and music)im racist?!?!im sorry,but thats just..just..woah.

 "its our thing and we created it.... "

 actually it was created by a middle aged white guy(originally it wasnt as "explicit" though)

"it just seems that ppl wanna bash hip hop just to make fun of Black ppl"

 i bash hip hop because its the worse type of "music" in the world.

"but youd rather make you Sub-Racist comments about our genre"

 im sorry,who owns as genre?just want to know because im thinking of buying classic rock.

.". what about Eminem hes not Black he didnt talk about slappin h??s and stuff he is one of the greats lyricists of all times..."

 your right,hed rather talk about killing family memebers....good guy...greatist lyricist?!?!(sighs)

 "and just to thing ppl like yall made the same type of Idiotic insults back in the day and said that hip Hop is a Fad and a trend but look at it now... "

yah..its still a trendyfad,because any old suburban dude can be a  gangsta by putting on a 50 cent cd in a lowrider,pumpin the base and acting the fool.

 "so i say hate on you racist haters cause its obvious that you are Racist"

you are the one who implied that all black people are rappers(and apparently "own" the genre)

gangster rap sucks man,of course this is my own opinion,but i had to counter.dont even try to say im racist,my great aunt is black and i love her very much.if you must associate racism with genres of music,then associate it with the blues(bb king,muddy waters anyone)because those are some real people.amazing singers and songwriters,and not just some kid with a additude who can talk in rhyme really fast.

guitboxdude25

"ok rock is garbage why is it in Games wearing tight a$$ pants and lil shirts isnt cool but yet ppl listen to it"

 umm sorry.cant understand what you are saying.i dont think you can listen to tight a$$ pants and lil shirts.

 and whats so cool about smashing guitars well idk why im even trying to defend my music genre cause its evident that some ppl in this thread dont like hip hop and most dont like black ppl"

 how do you figure?has anyone said the words "i hate black people"?

"ike ppl that display the rebel flag are prolly mostly racists so keep listing to that trash you call rock and ill listen the DOCTORS AVOCATE"

true.most people who display the rebel flag are ignorant hicks.but they listen to country.not rock.and rocknot trash.

" that explains Rap and Hip Hop because Hip hop is dead and yall are the ppl that killed it"

 i killed it?explain to me how?

" in a way i do agree only to the fact that ppl think its cool to listen to rap but 10 years ago ppl thought rap is garbage"

no,rap 10 years ago was good,rap now sucks.its just not the same anymore,its to much of the same thing,whichis fighting,killing and ho's and they get praised for it because lil white kids think its gangster but "real a$$ gangsters dont flex nuts,cause real a$$ gangsters now they got em"-ghetto boys

"rock is and will always be garbage."

 why?do you actually not like it or is it the fact that the mojority of people who listen to it are white

Rock has never been garbage up until about 15 years ago. People think that rock music has been dominated by white people, which may be true, but some of rock musics most influential artists were African American's, same goes for blues. Blues and blues rock is symbolic of the 60's and 70's, most of the music during those decades was influenced by the Delta bluesmen like Robert Johnson, who many people believe sold his soul to the Devil at the Crossroads (I think it is in Louisiana) in order to become a famous musician, and his legacy has influenced many people, including one white British musician by the name of Eric Clapton, as well as Jeff Beck, another very formidable bluesman. B.B King, Buddy Guy, Wes Montgomery and Chuck Berry are some of the most influential and probably some of the most famous African American musicians of the 20th Century, as a guitar player I find their music more compelling and more inspirational then other white guitarists, and I am white myself. Do I pretend to play like I am a black blues player? No I sure dont but that doesnt stop their music from having an impact on the way I play the blues, which I do it in a blues rock sort of way like Colin James or Eric Clapton would do it instead of the slow pace of the classic Delta Blues.

Jimi Hendrix, probably one of the biggest names in rock history was black, and he is just as popular as Chuck Berry but he lived a shorter life, which might also make him less well known to a lot of people. Hendrix's music, however did not reflect much of his life like blues musicians do with their songs. Hendrix was a black man trying to make it in a predominantly white rock music scene, however anyone who listens to his music knows that he is easily one of the most innovative songwriters of all time and his music was able to appeal to white people as well as black people. Not to mention a lot of his tunes that he wrote during his career actually represent the things that were going on at that point in time (see the song Manic Depression, as he had a serious battle as a drug abuser for many years and I do believe he had that illness as well from doing drugs).

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no,rap 10 years ago was good,rap now sucks.its just not the same anymore,its to much of the same thing,whichis fighting,killing and ho's and they get praised for it because lil white kids think its gangster but "real a$$ gangsters dont flex nuts,cause real a$$ gangsters now they got em"-ghetto boys

 

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this was made in 2005. Just an example of how hiphop is not dead its just underground. underground hiphop now, is just as good/better than it was back then.

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#267 DSgamer64
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1) Green Day isn't a new band. They were around longer than Muse. (I'm referring to DSgamer64's post)

2) Let's try to turn this topic around so it doesn't turn into a race wars topic.

WeAreToast

I know they arent, however they are one of the longest lasting bands when it comes to being mainstream, not to mention they have always put out some fairly good music. Aside from maybe Dave Matthews Band, The Foo Fighters or the Chili Peppers, who have also both lasted a long time compared to other bands and been extremely successful, there are not that many bands to last more then 5 years on the scene

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#268 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="guitboxdude25"][QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="guitboxdude25"][QUOTE="twags82"][QUOTE="guitboxdude25"]

[QUOTE="PSBox3SixWi"]damn it gets irritating. how about some rock?guitboxdude25

you sir,are my hero

Your sig speaks volumes about "rock" now.

No thank you, metal is the only thing I listen to.

yah,but i still call my music rock,and i said mostly,if you search around,youcan find some good rock.

if you search around, you can find some good hiphop too

sure sure i suppose,when its not about disrespecting women,fighting,killing shooting,f-ing,your money,etc,etc

2pac, Biggie, Eminem, Jay-z, Nas, 50s first album(was actually very good, he actually showed talent in that one), Run DMC, Dr. Dre, etc. Rap sucks now. I hate what has happened to Rap and the rest of hip hop. But the same has happened to rock. The reality is music in general has lost its flare. I mean there is not great rapper no more. maybe Kanya but hes no Jay-Z or Eminem or Nas who IMO are the last great rappers. as for Rock. Thats one giant sellout IMO. Rock use to be about raw emotion, talent, and was true art. Now its emo trash.

Nas is allright but eminem sucks (imo)yep,totally agree on you with that one.(read my sig)

well i think Eminem was very good. songs like sing for the moment, till i collapse, criminal, kim, superman,etc were all very good. and showed he belonged and had talent. but like u said it was a matter of preference with eminem. and i did read ur sig, basically i was agreeing with you. Music in general sucks now. For me i knew it got sad, when Nelly furtado and shakira were worth listening to for anything other than there bodies..............and "amazing musical talent" wink,wink,nod nod.
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#269 Eubanks360
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Like Nas Said "Hanus Crimes help record sales more than Creative minds" so ive read some more of this thread..... and let me apologize i got defensive over hip hop beacuse ive been listening to it my whole life..... Hip Hop is Dead because ppl go out and By Garbage Hip Hop AKA Young Jeezy TI NELLY...... and then ppl hate Hip Hop Because of that garbage which is Understandable but.... Rap/HIP HOP/ Gangastar rap is like all Music if you dont like it then Mute it I like listening to Gangstar rap beacuase i come from the Hood i Know that what they are saying is the truth although i dont agree with hitting women..... like TUPAC said in the song changes.. "I never did a crime i didnt have to do".... Hip Hop is the only Black thing that us Black ppl got we take offense to ppl trashing it it might be garbage to you but it isnt to us because it our culture..... Rock No matter how much i dont like it isnt garbbage so let me say that and apolgize to ppl for saying that...... and Black ppl become rappers because no matter how smart a black dude is at some point and time hes gonna be hated on because of his race and not his mind.... Rappers are some of the only Black americans that are rich with the exception of sports athletes and Oprah there arent that many Rich Black ppl.... SO how do you expect us do be more than gang bangers and pimps and robbers if we cant even get a job and if we do get a job its not because we qualify for the job its because we are black and the employer doesnt want to seem raicist....... and I dont care what anyone says RACISISM IS STILL ALIVE i see it every day like ppl you at you all wieird like they havent seen a black person before and its frustrating for us blacks because we got ppl that say oh racisism is dead but yet  certain ppl look at us funny like we are going to steal some thing or like we are gonna rob some one other races rob just as much as blacks but blacks get news coverage...... which brings me back to my point  yall might not like HIP HOP/RAP/ OR GANGSTAR RAP but its a part of my DNA so if you dont like it mute it.... i dont complain about rock on video games

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#270 suznjak
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Like Nas Said "Hanus Crimes help record sales more than Creative minds" so ive read some more of this thread..... and let me apologize i got defensive over hip hop beacuse ive been listening to it my whole life..... Hip Hop is Dead because ppl go out and By Garbage Hip Hop AKA Young Jeezy TI NELLY...... and then ppl hate Hip Hop Because of that garbage which is Understandable but.... Rap/HIP HOP/ Gangastar rap is like all Music if you dont like it then Mute it I like listening to Gangstar rap beacuase i come from the Hood i Know that what they are saying is the truth although i dont agree with hitting women..... like TUPAC said in the song changes.. "I never did a crime i didnt have to do".... Hip Hop is the only Black thing that us Black ppl got we take offense to ppl trashing it it might be garbage to you but it isnt to us because it our culture..... Rock No matter how much i dont like it isnt garbbage so let me say that and apolgize to ppl for saying that...... and Black ppl become rappers because no matter how smart a black dude is at some point and time hes gonna be hated on because of his race and not his mind.... Rappers are some of the only Black americans that are rich with the exception of sports athletes and Oprah there arent that many Rich Black ppl.... SO how do you expect us do be more than gang bangers and pimps and robbers if we cant even get a job and if we do get a job its not because we qualify for the job its because we are black and the employer doesnt want to seem raicist....... and I dont care what anyone says RACISISM IS STILL ALIVE i see it every day like ppl you at you all wieird like they havent seen a black person before and its frustrating for us blacks because we got ppl that say oh racisism is dead but yet certain ppl look at us funny like we are going to steal some thing or like we are gonna rob some one other races rob just as much as blacks but blacks get news coverage...... which brings me back to my point yall might not like HIP HOP/RAP/ OR GANGSTAR RAP but its a part of my DNA so if you dont like it mute it.... i dont complain about rock on video games

"To live is to suffer, but to survive is to find meaning in the suffering" -DMX-

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Some people just need a reason to b!!ch and whine.
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#271 Silenthps
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Like Nas Said "Hanus Crimes help record sales more than Creative minds" so ive read some more of this thread..... and let me apologize i got defensive over hip hop beacuse ive been listening to it my whole life..... Hip Hop is Dead because ppl go out and By Garbage Hip Hop AKA Young Jeezy TI NELLY...... and then ppl hate Hip Hop Because of that garbage which is Understandable but.... Rap/HIP HOP/ Gangastar rap is like all Music if you dont like it then Mute it I like listening to Gangstar rap beacuase i come from the Hood i Know that what they are saying is the truth although i dont agree with hitting women..... like TUPAC said in the song changes.. "I never did a crime i didnt have to do".... Hip Hop is the only Black thing that us Black ppl got we take offense to ppl trashing it it might be garbage to you but it isnt to us because it our culture..... Rock No matter how much i dont like it isnt garbbage so let me say that and apolgize to ppl for saying that...... and Black ppl become rappers because no matter how smart a black dude is at some point and time hes gonna be hated on because of his race and not his mind.... Rappers are some of the only Black americans that are rich with the exception of sports athletes and Oprah there arent that many Rich Black ppl.... SO how do you expect us do be more than gang bangers and pimps and robbers if we cant even get a job and if we do get a job its not because we qualify for the job its because we are black and the employer doesnt want to seem raicist....... and I dont care what anyone says RACISISM IS STILL ALIVE i see it every day like ppl you at you all wieird like they havent seen a black person before and its frustrating for us blacks because we got ppl that say oh racisism is dead but yet certain ppl look at us funny like we are going to steal some thing or like we are gonna rob some one other races rob just as much as blacks but blacks get news coverage...... which brings me back to my point yall might not like HIP HOP/RAP/ OR GANGSTAR RAP but its a part of my DNA so if you dont like it mute it.... i dont complain about rock on video games

"To live is to suffer, but to survive is to find meaning in the suffering" -DMX-

Eubanks360

I'm black too and i totally get what your saying, but being black is not the reason the white person wont hire you and its not the reason people give you weird stares. It's all about presentation. If your dressed with a huge chain, baggy pants, gold teeth etc etc etc... people just aren't going to take you seriously and will give you that bad look. Its because the media portrays people who dress like that in a bad way and when a white person looks at someone who dresses like that, they'll get scarred thinking they're gonna get robbed or something. If you want to have beef with anything, it should be the media for warping the minds of whites. It's not the skin color that whites are afraid of, its the whole presentation.

If a black person were to make themselves presentable by doing something like wearing a suit, they would be taken more seriously. I know your probably thinking that wearing a suit is "white" and that dressing a certain way expresses who you are... but its not just the black race who needs to look professional. look at goths. Imagine a goth dressed like a total vampire, trying to get a job, they would get the same treatment. Everybody has to change the way they look to seem more professional, not just blacks.

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#272 Japanese_Monk
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Im sorry but this Thread is just plain false. Hiphop music is no where near becoming the dominant music choice for video games. lol. ANd even if it were b4 that the music was all rock orientated. So you dont care that others have to be subject to rock but you whine like a school girl when you have to listen to hip hop.
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#273 Ganon_919
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Im sorry but this Thread is just plain false. Hiphop music is no where near becoming the dominant music choice for video games. lol. ANd even if it were b4 that the music was all rock orientated. So you dont care that others have to be subject to rock but you whine like a school girl when you have to listen to hip hop. Japanese_Monk

Thanks Monk for bringin' us back on topic :D

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#274 djxaquaxblue
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like Nas said, ''hip-hop'' is dead.......i mean once hip-hop started goin mainstream, everything just went down hill....i mean now you got old white folks saying, "for sh i zz le" nuttin wrong with that but once they brought hip-hop out more into the open world, they just killed the genre.
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#275 Silenthps
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like Nas said, ''hip-hop'' is dead.......i mean once hip-hop started goin mainstream, everything just went down hill....i mean now you got old white folks saying, "for sh i zz le" nuttin wrong with that but once they brought hip-hop out more into the open world, they just killed the genre. djxaquaxblue
Like KRS-One said "Hip-Hop Lives"
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#276 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]I hate the fact that hip-hop is not only a lead genre of music of games, but a dominating fad of our youth. Acting like a street thug is NOT cool.shungokustasu

Hate huh? Since when the "thug" image became the hip-hop culture? Wasn't Gotti, Capone, John Dilliner, and Carlo Bambino famous thugs?

Here's the thing about those thugs you listed;

1) They don't go around making horrid songs

2) You can understand what they are saying

3) You didn't see the youth of that era carrying Chicago Typwriters and wearing classy business suits. They were not influenced by the thugs of their era like the youth of today are. 

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#277 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]I hate the fact that hip-hop is not only a lead genre of music of games, but a dominating fad of our youth. Acting like a street thug is NOT cool.Silenthps

It's not hiphop's fault that stuff like that goes down. It's the fact that the industry chooses that path because they think it would get more sales.

You will never hear a song like this http://youtube.com/watch?v=-DiZym5nqyc being put on the radio because of this. There are tons of songs like this, the thing is, they dont ever get mainstream attention.

I edited my post because it sounded like I was implying ALL hip-hop was like that. I understand it wasn't all about 'bling bling' and all that crap back then, it was about life on the streets. 

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#278 JiveT
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At least we can all agree that RUSH sucks.
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#279 PannicAtack
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Personally, hip hop and rap aren't my favorite styles of music, as I lean more towards melody than lyrics and rhythm. I've never had much interest in it, except for "White and Nerdy," because that was funny. Either way, alot of modern rap is about the same degrading subjects - gang violence, incessant swearing, and "hos." I'll assume the older stuff was better. Heck, alot of the older stuff - in any genre of music - is better. Heck, I prefer listening to Queen and The Who than alot of the crappy bands nowadays. >_>

But no. Hip hop is not taking over as the lead genre of music in games. I'd still say that it's mostly rock and new age. And new age I like. >_>

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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Man"]I personally hate any type of rock music. I am glad there is more hip hop music and hopefully we will start seeing pop music being put in games.Runningflame570

Do you even understand how diverse the term "Rock music" really is, it goes from Buddy Holly to Ozzy Osbourne to the Mamas and the Papas to Nirvana to Coldplay (although I kind of hate coldplay).

Pop itself takes many things from rock.

See that's what I'm talking about. I must be insane for not posing as a white. Listen to what you like and judge me on my words and actions. Not on prefference of music.

4_Horsemen

I just people as a whole based upon their actions but I unfortunately in my experience find that the people are big fans of rap are more often that not (in my experience) the people who speak too loud, try to talk like "Fitteh" and dress more like a member of a prison gang than the intelligent person they (presumably) are.

While we're at it I have problems with the whole "Emo" scene which can be attributed to a certain category of rock but I haven't had as many issues with them.

Also I take issue with people calling rap "poetry" or "musical" as I can divulge no musical quality from what is around now and little from most of the oldest stuff. One last thing..people should NOT try to defend Rap, just as I won't try to defend Death Metal..you can't do it without making a spectacle of yourself in my opinion.

Yeah Dragonforce has come and gone for me. Their second album was great but the enw stuff is lacking. Another badn you should check out if u like DF is called Stratovarius. Much better IMO but about the same ****of music.

cdrewsr388

I may just do that, thanks.

How dare you! why are u stereotyping. what the hell is wrong with you. we already escape from that racist crap with our gaming and now u scum try and mess that up. i understand that u don't like rap but u are taking it way too far. i would get banned if i say all u "majorities" do is kidnap and cut people up. But its fine for u to do it. i'm not proud of my peoples actions but now i have to have the people i relate the most to, to turn against me and feel like i'm in the 50s. I'm a 15 year old black boy that loves rap and rock to death and this is what happens. i bet ud be the one to quickly call me the N word like all the other "majorities" do over xbox live. thanks a lot runningflames
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#281 Ganon_919
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[QUOTE="Runningflame570"]

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Man"]I personally hate any type of rock music. I am glad there is more hip hop music and hopefully we will start seeing pop music being put in games.futureboy99

Do you even understand how diverse the term "Rock music" really is, it goes from Buddy Holly to Ozzy Osbourne to the Mamas and the Papas to Nirvana to Coldplay (although I kind of hate coldplay).

Pop itself takes many things from rock.

See that's what I'm talking about. I must be insane for not posing as a white. Listen to what you like and judge me on my words and actions. Not on prefference of music.

4_Horsemen

I just people as a whole based upon their actions but I unfortunately in my experience find that the people are big fans of rap are more often that not (in my experience) the people who speak too loud, try to talk like "Fitteh" and dress more like a member of a prison gang than the intelligent person they (presumably) are.

While we're at it I have problems with the whole "Emo" scene which can be attributed to a certain category of rock but I haven't had as many issues with them.

Also I take issue with people calling rap "poetry" or "musical" as I can divulge no musical quality from what is around now and little from most of the oldest stuff. One last thing..people should NOT try to defend Rap, just as I won't try to defend Death Metal..you can't do it without making a spectacle of yourself in my opinion.

Yeah Dragonforce has come and gone for me. Their second album was great but the enw stuff is lacking. Another badn you should check out if u like DF is called Stratovarius. Much better IMO but about the same ****of music.

cdrewsr388

I may just do that, thanks.

How dare you! why are u stereotyping. what the hell is wrong with you. we already escape from that racist crap with our gaming and now u scum try and mess that up. i understand that u don't like rap but u are taking it way too far. i would get banned if i say all u "majorities" do is kidnap and cut people up. But its fine for u to do it. i'm not proud of my peoples actions but now i have to have the people i relate the most to, to turn against me and feel like i'm in the 50s. I'm a 15 year old black boy that loves rap and rock to death and this is what happens. i bet ud be the one to quickly call me the N word like all the other "majorities" do over xbox live. thanks a lot runningflames

Woah woah, calm down now man...

I know you disagree with what he said (and so do I, I'm 16 yrs old and Black) but don't get yourself in trouble over it.
Either debate it or ignore it. Or at least try ;)

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Wow, still going. Finally caught up reading..
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#283 Plug_One
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Runningflame, if you can't find any poetic or musical value in A Tribe Called Quest, then you deserve to be shot.
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#284 jessesalinas
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Tupac's Music was Poetic (rest his soul).

 

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#285 JDW_games
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I can't stand rap. It's not real music to me. I like any style but rap. It's all in what you like I suppose.
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#286 wagexslave
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It is a sad thing

rap, i'm sorry, is a reject genre which takes no talent or writing ability.. it's scene is full of a bunch of punks from the streets who think they're badass, and they make more than 10-20x what a normal person makes if not more for doing what? "go shoty, its ya birfday, we gunna partay like itss ya birfday"... i mean come on, this genre is so sad that rappers rarely even make their own beats anymore

pathetic

i want to see more extreme metal on video games like death metal and hardcore... especially where it fits the mood in the game to get pumped up and kick some ass

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#287 jessesalinas
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Paul Wall and Mike Jones are THE worst candidates to represent Rap or even hip Hop. Please stop. So is the Game. For godness sakes he was on Change of Heart! lol. Slim Thug? Barely....xzibit...ha lol. If you like those people than DANG.....Japanese_Monk
i like those Rappers and theres nothing wrong with it.

i dont listen to mexican music or chinese music but i dont go around hatin on it ..LOL :|

 

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#288 jessesalinas
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It is a sad thing

rap, i'm sorry, is a reject genre which takes no talent or writing ability.. it's scene is full of a bunch of punks from the streets who think they're badass, and they make more than 10-20x what a normal person makes if not more for doing what? "go shoty, its ya birfday, we gunna partay like itss ya birfday"... i mean come on, this genre is so sad that rappers rarely even make their own beats anymore

pathetic

i want to see more extreme metal on video games like death metal and hardcore... especially where it fits the mood in the game to get pumped up and kick some ass

wagexslave

im glad you're the one who decides whats good and whats not.. :roll:

wow! you really enlightened me. (end Sarcasm)

 

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#289 wagexslave
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[QUOTE="wagexslave"]

It is a sad thing

rap, i'm sorry, is a reject genre which takes no talent or writing ability.. it's scene is full of a bunch of punks from the streets who think they're badass, and they make more than 10-20x what a normal person makes if not more for doing what? "go shoty, its ya birfday, we gunna partay like itss ya birfday"... i mean come on, this genre is so sad that rappers rarely even make their own beats anymore

pathetic

i want to see more extreme metal on video games like death metal and hardcore... especially where it fits the mood in the game to get pumped up and kick some ass

jessesalinas

im glad you're the one who decides whats good and whats not.. :roll:

wow! you really enlightened me. (end Sarcasm)

 

good (cough) or not

take a step back and look at rap for what it really is, a bunch of black dudes talking about how much more pu$$y they get than you and how much more money they have then you and how many cars they have etc

dont get me wrong there are SOME rappers with some talent but the majority of them are underground rappers these days

but anyways looking back at what rappers really are... think about it

if everyone didnt listen to them and treat them like they're so amazing, when they're no better than anyone else, they wouldnt have any money and they wouldnt seem so cool because without money they wouldnt have sick cars, and without money and cars they wouldnt get any pu$$y

see how much you like your rappers when they're some broke crackheads on the street and shoot you for your wallet so they can have some more money to go take another hit off their crack pipe

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#290 batistafan99
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This thread needs to be locked, it's turned into a racial war thing.
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#291 Runningflame570
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dunno about hiphop taking over but music in games is poor, wheres all the good drum and bass in racing games?

slikonebtz

Heck, Freebird should be in every racing game IMO.

If that's all he thinks rap is, then he needs to actually listen to some REAL stuff :x

Ganon_919

Whether you like it or not "Gangster Rap" is the most prevalent form today and is most definitely representative of a larger portion thats readily available than the "underground" kind you keep mentioning just like Indie rock makes up a small portion of that which is readily available and availability is what matters here...

Doesn't help much if its mostly local groups who can't get distributed on air or in stores outside of their own city/county.

hiphop as politics:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xf1QcHs4vGY

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CWh077_Ed3w

 

hiphop as poetry:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WaurA3enDlI

 

hiphop as music:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NoLkaGcpJFA

 

hiphop as comedy:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GeixrdnlKSA

 

The crappy rap you see today:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bvy63Yl7qU8

 

stop judging a genre you have no idea about plz.

 

Silenthps

Hip Hop as politics:

1. Way too many expletives and blatant racism. The message is good but it has been said elsewhere in varying degrees and without the extraordinary amount of unnecessary content.

2. Uhmm yeah..flagged as inappropriate for anyone under 18 and seeing as I'm having trouble with my account I can't view that so I'm going to let it speak for itself.

Hip Hop as poetry:

That makes a grand total of 4 rap/hip hop songs I actually like. 

Hip Hop as music:

Not even Hip Hop..thats crossover. Thats about as hip hop as Linkin Park.

Hip Hop as comedy:

Not funny, unnecessary racial expletives, objectification, ect. 

Those are my EXACT problems with Rap, racism, extraordinary amount of expletives,  objectification, and all to generally say the same things other genres have said.

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#292 Doomshine
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Games need more metal.

I salute you Guilty Gear! 

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Most racism lives in the subconscience.And lot of u guys proved this point.Racists and dont even know it ur the same guys who would stand up on a bus instead of sittin next to a black.jasospai

You know what that actually deserves a single expletive...but whatever. Forget the fact that I have black, asian, hispanic and white friends in roughly equal amounts, because I think rap is in the vast majority of instances crap and often doesn't need to be I'm somehow "racist" get over yourself.

Hip Hop is the most versatile thing ever. Anyone who can still crticise it after watching this needs to have their head checked.

NorthlandMan

Or maybe you do, that is a horrendous commercial and reinforces my notion that people rap/listen to rap to try and be cool or trendy.

At least we can all agree that RUSH sucks.JiveT

Most of their stuff? Yeah, but the real sucky ones are AFI and Fallout Boy. BTW, anyone who wants to suggest rap or hip hop groups that are devoid of racist bigoted lyrics, objectification and money worship feel free to tell me I just haven't found any yet (sans Talib and theres even some of that with him).

How dare you! why are u stereotyping. what the hell is wrong with you. we already escape from that racist crap with our gaming and now u scum try and mess that up. i understand that u don't like rap but u are taking it way too far. i would get banned if i say all u "majorities" do is kidnap and cut people up. But its fine for u to do it. i'm not proud of my peoples actions but now i have to have the people i relate the most to, to turn against me and feel like i'm in the 50s. I'm a 15 year old black boy that loves rap and rock to death and this is what happens. i bet ud be the one to quickly call me the N word like all the other "majorities" do over xbox live. thanks a lot runningflames
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I'm making an assertion based upon my experiences over years that tend to mesh with that. Thats not to say it is always true (no stereotype is) but then again, consider how many stereotypes are commonly propagated about white guys..I think you can deal with.

Actually the majority of crime does come from white guys over 40 so if you want to make that assertion feel free.

No, those kinds of things are one of the big reasons for my distaste towards rap and hip hop in general. Assert yourself against idiocy from people like I do when I see "emos" being morons, tell them at the least don't keep quiet about what you disapprove of. Thats one of the real problems we have.