I hate to say it but I give credit to MS and 360

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#1 Blackbond
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I don't really throw around much praise to either company but I have to admit I have to give credit to MS this gen. They are improving a lot and especially through their games.

Not only do they offer you their exclusives, you get pretty much every multiplat, they have been broadening themselves with JRPGs, and they even give you a taste of the PC titles.

I mean damn it might not be the most amazing thing out their but they are making sure that their audience gets to play a very diverse catalouge of games.

Last gen you wouldn't see the Xbox getting a lot of JRPGs, you wouldn't see it getting every multiplat, you didn't see it getting this much PC titles as well. Now some may say PC multiplats are a weakness because of multiplat status but hey nobody is forcing you to buy them. Fact of the matter is though they are there.

I'll also praise Microsoft for the fact that they are going far out of their way to appeal to an audience that really wants nothing to do with them. I'm talking the JPN market and MS securing JRPGs and such.

I mean its seems they are doing everything right to get good games on their system and it is working. Quite frankly if it wasn't for RROD and maybe a $50 a year XBL service its getting tough to find things to complain about when it comes to 360.

I would have never thought MS would become such a player in the console war but it looks like they have established themselves as a force to be wreckoned with.

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#2 flashattackfina
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YAY Keep trying for japan but it's sad that japan will not buy SO4 now
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#3 DireOwl
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I thought I read somewhere that that was their goal this gen, to gain market-share.
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#4 UnrealSin_X
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IMO MS has ruined gaming for me, i just can't stand the exclusivity crap anymore. I have spent way too much money trying to chase after the games i want, but what can you say?
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#5 BreakingPoint8
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YAY but it's sad that japan will not buy SO4 nowflashattackfina
Why not? Blue Dragon sold over 210,000 copies, so why wouldn't an established franchise like Star Ocean (or Tales of for that matter) sell more? Considering it comes out AFTER Tales of Vesperia and Infinite Undiscovery.

Star Ocean 3 sold 480,000 in Japan, if Star Ocean 4 sells 250,000 - 350,000 in Japan I can't see that as bad. Not like the Playstation 3 RPGs are selling in higher numbers.

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#6 kage_53
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YAY but it's sad that japan will not buy SO4 nowflashattackfina
Japan doesn't care about console gaming anymore so why does it matter.
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#7 black_awpN1
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I jsut hope MS catches a break with these games, if not then they might have to go Multiplat unles there Completely locked down by MS.
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#8 BreakingPoint8
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IMO MS has ruined gaming for me, i just can't stand the exclusivity crap anymore. I have spent way too much money trying to chase after the games i want, but what can you say?UnrealSin_X
Ruined gaming for you? You said you have an Xbox 360 what the hell are you...never mind I don't want to know.
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#9 Riverwolf007
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I would just like to take this time to say thank you to all the people that called the Xbox and the 360 a "shooter box" and ridiculing MS into trying to shed that image. Good job all.
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IMO MS has ruined gaming for me, i just can't stand the exclusivity crap anymore. I have spent way too much money trying to chase after the games i want, but what can you say?UnrealSin_X
posts like this crack me up. I am sure you do not feel the same about PS3 exclusives.
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#11 Riverwolf007
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IMO MS has ruined gaming for me, i just can't stand the exclusivity crap anymore. I have spent way too much money trying to chase after the games i want, but what can you say?UnrealSin_X
If you have all three consoles then what difference is it to you?
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IMO MS has ruined gaming for me, i just can't stand the exclusivity crap anymore. I have spent way too much money trying to chase after the games i want, but what can you say?UnrealSin_X

Exclusive games has been around way before MS decided to get into the gaming market. I don't know how they are to blame.

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#13 TMontana1004
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Great post Blackbond :D
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#14 jimm895
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If I want a exclusive 360 game I just wait for it come out on the PC. As for PS3 exclusives the only way to play these games is on a PS3, exclusives on the PS systems are true exclusives.
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#15 Jaysonguy
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Multiplats are what kept the XBOX alive last gen

Halo only took them so far

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#16 TMontana1004
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IMO MS has ruined gaming for me, i just can't stand the exclusivity crap anymore. I have spent way too much money trying to chase after the games i want, but what can you say?UnrealSin_X

How do you think us Xbox owners felt with the PS2 hoarding exclusives? I missed out on so many great games last gen.

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#17 UnrealSin_X
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Oh i am sorry, is it that bad to express an opinion? It matters for me because i got used to paying SO on the PS and not the damn Xbox. I hate the 360 controller for jrpg's.
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#18 gensigns
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DAMN DAMN DAMN Coleco! They ruined gaming for me when they stole Donkey Kong exclusivity back in '82.
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#19 rybe1025
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I agree Blackbond. MS has really tried to have a much larger variety this gen. Even if sales end up not showing it when the gen is over it will not be from MS not trying.

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[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]IMO MS has ruined gaming for me, i just can't stand the exclusivity crap anymore. I have spent way too much money trying to chase after the games i want, but what can you say?BreakingPoint8
Ruined gaming for you? You said you have an Xbox 360 what the hell are you...never mind I don't want to know.

I think he is trying to say that he wants a single console that has a monopoly of exclusives so he wouldn't need to buy another system.

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#21 lawlessx
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i need more JRPG's for my 360 microsoft!

show us some cry on already !

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#22 Riverwolf007
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Oh i am sorry, is it that bad to express an opinion? It matters for me because i got used to paying SO on the PS and not the damn Xbox. I hate the 360 controller for jrpg's.UnrealSin_X
lol, omg where's my head I think somebody just bit it off!
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Oh i am sorry, is it that bad to express an opinion? It matters for me because i got used to paying SO on the PS and not the damn Xbox. I hate the 360 controller for jrpg's.UnrealSin_X

I don't understand how you hating the 360 controller have to do with wasting money on buying 360 games when you have a 360. When regular games cost the same on the ps3.

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#24 BreakingPoint8
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Oh i am sorry, is it that bad to express an opinion? It matters for me because i got used to paying SO on the PS and not the damn Xbox. I hate the 360 controller for jrpg's.UnrealSin_X
Next time you wish to share your opinion, take a few deep breaths, put on some calm gentle music, light some candles then think carefully about what you want to say.

No need to throw a temper tantrum and declaring Microsoft ruined gaming because you have to play JRPGs with an Xbox 360 controller.

It's bad to express your opinion when you're all worked up, yes. Drink some warm milk and take a nap, that helps too.

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IMO MS has ruined gaming for me, i just can't stand the exclusivity crap anymore. I have spent way too much money trying to chase after the games i want, but what can you say?UnrealSin_X
You hate Microsoft because of exclusivity? What?
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#26 Blackbond
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If I want a exclusive 360 game I just wait for it come out on the PC. As for PS3 exclusives the only way to play these games is on a PS3, exclusives on the PS systems are true exclusives.jimm895

A 360 exclusive isn't on PC if its on PC then its not exclusive.

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[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]Oh i am sorry, is it that bad to express an opinion? It matters for me because i got used to paying SO on the PS and not the damn Xbox. I hate the 360 controller for jrpg's.BreakingPoint8

Next time you wish to share your opinion, take a few deep breaths, put on some calm gentle music, light some candles then think carefully about what you want to say.

No need to throw a temper tantrum and declaring Microsoft ruined gaming because you have to play JRPGs with an Xbox 360 controller.

It's bad to express your opinion when you're all worked up, yes. Drink some warm milk and take a nap, that helps too.

that made me :lol:
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#28 DivergeUnify
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I thought I read somewhere that that was their goal this gen, to gain market-share.DireOwl
As I would suspect most companies do...
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#29 BreakingPoint8
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i need more JRPG's for my 360 microsoft!

show us some cry on already !

lawlessx

Vapor ware.

Typing that...hurt...a lot.

Anyway, I'm hoping for a new Feel+ RPG.

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#30 gensigns
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[QUOTE="DireOwl"]I thought I read somewhere that that was their goal this gen, to gain market-share.DivergeUnify
As I would suspect most companies do...

Just the successful ones.

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#31 vicmackey39
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company has shocked me

I was fairly sure all consoles would suck gamewise but the 360 has the best PC games and enough exclusives for everyone. It's no wonder so many cows becdame lemmings this gen, it's common sense

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#32 DivergeUnify
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="DireOwl"]I thought I read somewhere that that was their goal this gen, to gain market-share.gensigns

As I would suspect most companies do...

Just the successful ones.

I would suspect most companies do try to gain market share*
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#33 Blackbond
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Oh i am sorry, is it that bad to express an opinion? It matters for me because i got used to paying SO on the PS and not the damn Xbox. I hate the 360 controller for jrpg's.UnrealSin_X

So you hate exclusives but yet you want to keep playing SO on the PS. Exuse me while I laugh to myself. Its obvious where you are getting at. Its an RPG this isn't like playing a Fighter on the Wiimote and nunchuck.

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#34 SambaLele
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i'd never give credit to a company that offends their consumers directly with such an unreliable product.
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#35 Blackbond
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i'd never give credit to a company that offends their consumers directly with such an unreliable product.SambaLele

So I guess your a Nintendo fan then?

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#36 DireOwl
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[QUOTE="DireOwl"]I thought I read somewhere that that was their goal this gen, to gain market-share.DivergeUnify
As I would suspect most companies do...

Very true. I just thought I'd throw that point out there.

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#37 Blommen
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I have nothing against the 360, but I am getting frustrated with sony for not making some exclusive deals with some jrpg-developers(a hot topic, I know) or at least get in on the action(multiplat). I bought the ps3 for their previous history, basically their jrpgs, mgs and Team Ico but now I don't know, they seem to be losing their identity.

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#38 SSCyborg
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[QUOTE="SambaLele"]i'd never give credit to a company that offends their consumers directly with such an unreliable product.Blackbond

So I guess your a Nintendo fan then?

Could be a hermit.

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[QUOTE="SambaLele"]i'd never give credit to a company that offends their consumers directly with such an unreliable product.Blackbond

So I guess your a Nintendo fan then?

Early NES models were defective or so I've heard.
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The only difference between your realization & mine is that I was freely admitting this to myself 1.5 years ago when the PS3 was just being released & I could get an Xbox 360 with a $50 rebate & the excellent GoW. I knew at that point that Mr. Softy had the right stuff.

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#41 Andrew_Xavier
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I have to admit it, I don't care what machine it's coming out for, I made the 360 mega hype thread because I'm like dancing full of joy happy (I knew, nerdy right? My gf says "it's just a game dude, chill out") that they are making Star Ocean 4 and it's FINALLY been confirmed! I will say this:

TRI-ACE FTW AND KUDOS FOR MS FOR NABBING THE FRANCHISE!

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IMO MS has ruined gaming for me, i just can't stand the exclusivity crap anymore. I have spent way too much money trying to chase after the games i want, but what can you say?UnrealSin_X

Yea, I hate Microsoft for developing the idea of exclusive games....wait a minute...

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#43 jknight5422
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I have nothing against the 360, but I am getting frustrated with sony for not making some exclusive deals with some jrpg-developers(a hot topic, I know) or at least get in on the action(multiplat). I bought the ps3 for their previous history, basically their jrpgs, mgs and Team Ico but now I don't know, they seem to be losing their identity.

Blommen

It's because they forgot that they're supposed to be building a game console & not a movie player. They used their gamer customer base to funnel in blu-ray, then promised that "in the future" their console would be king...talk about your exploitations. It surely has been a long wait & seems to be extending ever forward...

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#44 Blackbond
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On the flip side wtf is Sony thinking!?

They are trying to get a piece of the Xbox pie by doing the shooter thing getting games such as RFOM, Haze, KZ2 ect. But in the process its like they forgot what really helped them. What they offered that the competition really didn't JRPG's.

So they go for shooters and forget about JRPGS. Which stinks because they didn't really put out stellar shooters. I liked RFOM though.

On the flip side not only has MS kept their shooter thing going healthy they have gone after the RPG and especially the JRPG that the PS brand used to dominate.

The tables have completely turned. MS is making waves in getting a variety of games and expanding its catalouge while the PS3 seems to be having a severe identiy Crisis.

I know what Wii is trying to do and I know what the 360 is trying to do. What is the PS3 trying to do? It just seems like its trying to take parts of xbox via shooters and wii via six axis but it has yet to have an impact really.

Sony needs to get with it but hey at least they won the format war.

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#45 rolo107
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IMO MS has ruined gaming for me, i just can't stand the exclusivity crap anymore. I have spent way too much money trying to chase after the games i want, but what can you say?UnrealSin_X

I know, before MS there was no such things as exclusives.... *face palms*

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#46 vicmackey39
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On the flip side wtf is Sony thinking!?

They are trying to get a piece of the Xbox pie by doing the shooter thing getting games such as RFOM, Haze, KZ2 ect. But in the process its like they forgot what really helped them. What they offered that the competition really didn't JRPG's.

So they go for shooters and forget about JRPGS. Which stinks because they didn't really put out stellar shooters. I liked RFOM though.

On the flip side not only has MS kept their shooter thing going healthy they have gone after the RPG and especially the JRPG that the PS brand used to dominate.

The tables have completely turned. MS is making waves in getting a variety of games and expanding its catalouge while the PS3 seems to be having a severe identiy Crisis.

I know what Wii is trying to do and I know what the 360 is trying to do. What is the PS3 trying to do? It just seems like its trying to take parts of xbox via shooters and wii via six axis but it has yet to have an impact really.

Sony needs to get with it but hey at least they won the format war.

Blackbond

the irony is that the 360 will always own the PS3 for shooters. Halo, Geow and Left 4 Dead are infinitely superior to resistance or killzone

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#47 DisPimpin
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I don't really throw around much praise to either company but I have to admit I have to give credit to MS this gen. They are improving a lot and especially through their games.

Not only do they offer you their exclusives, you get pretty much every multiplat, they have been broadening themselves with JRPGs, and they even give you a taste of the PC titles.

I mean damn it might not be the most amazing thing out their but they are making sure that their audience gets to play a very diverse catalouge of games.

Last gen you wouldn't see the Xbox getting a lot of JRPGs, you wouldn't see it getting every multiplat, you didn't see it getting this much PC titles as well. Now some may say PC multiplats are a weakness because of multiplat status but hey nobody is forcing you to buy them. Fact of the matter is though they are there.

I'll also praise Microsoft for the fact that they are going far out of their way to appeal to an audience that really wants nothing to do with them. I'm talking the JPN market and MS securing JRPGs and such.

I mean its seems they are doing everything right to get good games on their system and it is working. Quite frankly if it wasn't for RROD and maybe a $50 a year XBL service its getting tough to find things to complain about when it comes to 360.

I would have never thought MS would become such a player in the console war but it looks like they have established themselves as a force to be wreckoned with.

Blackbond
They are executing their 3 console plan to perfection.
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#48 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]IMO MS has ruined gaming for me, i just can't stand the exclusivity crap anymore. I have spent way too much money trying to chase after the games i want, but what can you say?rolo107

I know, before MS there was no such things as exclusives.... *face palms*

Whats even funnier is that he claimed earlier today that Sony needs to *SECURE* some RPGS lol.

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#49 Shinobishyguy
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the 360 is essentially the ps2 of this gen.
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#50 Zoso-8
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the 360 is essentially the ps2 of this gen.Shinobishyguy

That's definately going out on a limb.