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#101 -Master_St3ve-
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The hype of PC Gaming is not being to sell back the games or something like that, its a real trashcan for money having to upgrade so much.wok7

If you would speak english that would help.

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#102 wok7
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[QUOTE="wok7"]LAWL, the guy says he didn't enjoy PC as much as console and the jealous Hermits tear him a new one. Talk about insecure the hermits are.bignice12

Exposing a liar=insecurity? since when?

Hermits jumped all over him even before he was exposed.

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#103 shsonline
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[QUOTE="bignice12"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]LAWL, the guy says he didn't enjoy PC as much as console and the jealous Hermits tear him a new one. Talk about insecure the hermits are.wok7

Exposing a liar=insecurity? since when?

Hermits jumped all over him even before he was exposed.

He's got you there.

PS I resent that. I wasn't "exposed". I came clean voluntarily to get my point across.

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#104 wok7
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[QUOTE="wok7"]The hype of PC Gaming is not being to sell back the games or something like that, its a real trashcan for money having to upgrade so much.-Master_St3ve-

If you would speak english that would help.

If that wasn't English to you well then you're getting confuzzled with another language.

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#105 bignice12
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[QUOTE="bignice12"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]LAWL, the guy says he didn't enjoy PC as much as console and the jealous Hermits tear him a new one. Talk about insecure the hermits are.wok7

Exposing a liar=insecurity? since when?

Hermits jumped all over him even before he was exposed.

Absolutely, he was making outrageous claims based on 2 games(which he ended up only playing not even half of 1). That was the 1st post and the rest goes on "BS you dont even own a PC it doesn't add up". Jumping on him early on the thread was justified and is how we exposed him as a liar.

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#106 -Master_St3ve-
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[QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="bignice12"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]LAWL, the guy says he didn't enjoy PC as much as console and the jealous Hermits tear him a new one. Talk about insecure the hermits are.shsonline

Exposing a liar=insecurity? since when?

Hermits jumped all over him even before he was exposed.

He's got you there.

PS I resent that. I wasn't "exposed". I came clean voluntarily to get my point across.

No. You made no sense from the start and when people pointed out your lies then you came clean.

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#107 shsonline
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[QUOTE="shsonline"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="bignice12"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]LAWL, the guy says he didn't enjoy PC as much as console and the jealous Hermits tear him a new one. Talk about insecure the hermits are.-Master_St3ve-

Exposing a liar=insecurity? since when?

Hermits jumped all over him even before he was exposed.

He's got you there.

PS I resent that. I wasn't "exposed". I came clean voluntarily to get my point across.

No. You made no sense from the start and when people pointed out your lies then you came clean.

That's not how I see it at all. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

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#108 Mr47fitter
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[QUOTE="-Master_St3ve-"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]The hype of PC Gaming is not being to sell back the games or something like that, its a real trashcan for money having to upgrade so much.wok7

If you would speak english that would help.

If that wasn't English to you well then you're getting confuzzled with another language.

wok7, I think its about time you canceled that membership and went some where else...

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#109 TrailorParkBoy
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I leave to eat some dinner, I then go and watch Sunshine in HD on my 360 (excellent movie), I come back, turn on my monitor. And now I get the biggest laugh in a few weeks. Like really, I am at a loss of words. PS walk away from your computer go out side and have a smoke. Come back in 5 minutes and make a new account and never, EVER use this account. And for the love of God, at least get your story straight before posting here (dont forget us hermits can just ask for screen shots of your rig so it is impossible to lie)
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#110 TrailorParkBoy
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[QUOTE="-Master_St3ve-"][QUOTE="shsonline"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="bignice12"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]LAWL, the guy says he didn't enjoy PC as much as console and the jealous Hermits tear him a new one. Talk about insecure the hermits are.shsonline

Exposing a liar=insecurity? since when?

Hermits jumped all over him even before he was exposed.

He's got you there.

PS I resent that. I wasn't "exposed". I came clean voluntarily to get my point across.

No. You made no sense from the start and when people pointed out your lies then you came clean.

That's not how I see it at all. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

Your kidding?
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#111 dipper145
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You played 2 games, and on medium settings, whcih I think your computer can handle more then that. And then you don't like pc gaming.

Kind of just sounds like gaming just isnt the hobby for you. I'd suggest getting a new hobby and stop gaming altogether. Your pre-concieved bias towards console gaming probably didn't help. As you probably wanted yourself not to like pc gaming, who knows why after spending all that money on a pc. You just subconsiously made a decision beforehand that you didn't like pc gaming, so thats what you experianced. PC gaming is great, and alot better for FPS' and RTS games. As those genres really lend themselves to the controls of the keyboard and mouse.

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#112 QXMQ
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[QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="-Master_St3ve-"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]The hype of PC Gaming is not being to sell back the games or something like that, its a real trashcan for money having to upgrade so much.Mr47fitter

If you would speak english that would help.

If that wasn't English to you well then you're getting confuzzled with another language.

wok7, I think its about time you canceled that membership and went some where else...

amen...

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#114 jaisimar_chelse
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LAWL, the guy says he didn't enjoy PC as much as console and the jealous Hermits tear him a new one. Talk about insecure the hermits are.wok7

and how insecure is wok7 that he has to reply to every pc gaming thread.

IRONIC ISNT IT

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#115 jaisimar_chelse
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The hype of PC Gaming is not being to sell back the games or something like that, its a real trashcan for money having to upgrade so much.wok7

you are so right , my pc cant even do hd its a real trashcan

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Orange Box!
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#117 SSCyborg
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[QUOTE="wok7"]The hype of PC Gaming is not being to sell back the games or something like that, its a real trashcan for money having to upgrade so much.jaisimar_chelse

you are so right , my pc cant even do hd its a real trashcan

How can he ever live that down?

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#118 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]The hype of PC Gaming is not being to sell back the games or something like that, its a real trashcan for money having to upgrade so much.SSCyborg

you are so right , my pc cant even do hd its a real trashcan

How can he ever live that down?

He can't. lol :)

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#119 Lonelynight
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This thread is epic
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#120 Udsen
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I find it gross that he's acting so defensive and claiming PC gamers are "scaring a n00b away from PC gaming".

Come on, you blatantly lied to a gaming community. This thread was your little Trojan Horse way of saying, "I don't like PC gaming" while on the other hand knowing that if Hermits knew you gave it a shot, you wouldn't be flamed so much. Instead, you were exposed as a liar, and are getting flamed worse than you would if you just said "I don't like PC gaming."

It's like you're OJ and wok7 is Johnny Cochrane, it baffles me.

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#121 zero9167
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lmao, seriously, you played 2 pc games that require huge experience as a pc gamer to play (ESP sup com)and now youre saying dont like it? haha

i can guarantee it the only reason no would talk to you in sup com because you had no ******* idea what you were doing! Let guess, trying to to play the entire game with just the mouse? :lol: probably dont even know what hotkeys are

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#122 naval
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Okay, so let me come clean with a couple of things. I lied about the 8800 and the new egg thing. And yes i added a gig on the RAM count so you guys would say Noob or whatever because you hermits are very critical of your specs. So I thought I would pad them a tad to fit in. But that's your fault not mine for creating that kind of peer pressure.shsonline

lol, the truth comes out :lol:

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#123 gingerdivid
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It's apparent that you don't know too much about PC gaming, it takes time to fully exploit whats on offer.

PM me if you want any help, it's not worth giving up on your PC.

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#124 anshul89
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LAWL when will consolites come up with proper, well thought-of arguments against the PC ? Oh wait, THEY CANT.
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#125 ToScA-
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[QUOTE="shsonline"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

You type in the search( The Start menu search ) :

run

press enter

Type in the run search:

dxdiag

done.

Meu2k7

Time of this report: 2/22/2008, 20:57:54
Machine name: SAMUEL-PC
Operating System: Windows VistaTM Home Premium (6.0, Build 6000) (6000.vista_gdr.071009-1548)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gateway
System Model: GT5475E
BIOS: )Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+ (2 CPUs), ~2.1GHz
Memory: 1022MB RAM
Page File: 1950MB used, 489MB available
Windows Dir: C:Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6000.16386 32bit Unicode

You have only 1GB RAM, thats your problem right there :P get 2x 1 GB sticks and make it 3GB, you will be maxing those games easily ... but right now ... with only 1GB ram, your system wont play much at all within the last 3 years well.

3GB slaughters everything... and its easy to put in yourself.

Until you do that, your PC is not even "capable".

2 gigs should do these days.

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#126 _Pedro_
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[QUOTE="shsonline"]Okay, so let me come clean with a couple of things. I lied about the 8800 and the new egg thing. And yes i added a gig on the RAM count so you guys would say Noob or whatever because you hermits are very critical of your specs. So I thought I would pad them a tad to fit in. But that's your fault not mine for creating that kind of peer pressure.naval

lol, the truth comes out :lol:

:lol: He's even worse than Wok!

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#127 Lonelynight
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[QUOTE="naval"]

[QUOTE="shsonline"]Okay, so let me come clean with a couple of things. I lied about the 8800 and the new egg thing. And yes i added a gig on the RAM count so you guys would say Noob or whatever because you hermits are very critical of your specs. So I thought I would pad them a tad to fit in. But that's your fault not mine for creating that kind of peer pressure._Pedro_

lol, the truth comes out :lol:

:lol: He's even worse than Wok!

At least he admitted it

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#128 kozzy1234
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The Witcher is fantastic.. play it all the way thru adn then come let us know how you liked it. Its a great game.

If you really want to see the graphics and things a PC can do then upgrade a few things on your computer and try CRYSIS.. the mother of all FPS, simply amazing game :)

Ive recently got a new PC for gaming and music production and ive been playing alot less on my consoles lately.

Crysis, The Witcher, Civilization 4, Counterstrike:Source, Diablo2 have kept me very busy and happy the last while. PC gaming is as good as ever IMO :)

If it wasnt for Lost Odyssey i wouldnt have any of my consoles on lately.

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#129 jg4xchamp
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Why not try counterstrike, half life 2, system shock 2, starcraft, world in conflict, stalker, supreme commander, and ofcourse Crysis.

There is so much more to PC gaming, than anyone could ever list.
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#130 naval
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[QUOTE="_Pedro_"][QUOTE="naval"]

[QUOTE="shsonline"]Okay, so let me come clean with a couple of things. I lied about the 8800 and the new egg thing. And yes i added a gig on the RAM count so you guys would say Noob or whatever because you hermits are very critical of your specs. So I thought I would pad them a tad to fit in. But that's your fault not mine for creating that kind of peer pressure.Lonelynight

lol, the truth comes out :lol:

:lol: He's even worse than Wok!

At least he admitted it

he was forced to admit it after people pointed out lots of inconsistencies in his posts. it was hilarious :lol:

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#131 _Pedro_
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"][QUOTE="naval"]

[QUOTE="shsonline"]Okay, so let me come clean with a couple of things. I lied about the 8800 and the new egg thing. And yes i added a gig on the RAM count so you guys would say Noob or whatever because you hermits are very critical of your specs. So I thought I would pad them a tad to fit in. But that's your fault not mine for creating that kind of peer pressure.naval

lol, the truth comes out :lol:

:lol: He's even worse than Wok!

At least he admitted it

he was forced to admit it after people pointed out lots of inconsistencies in his posts. it was hilarious :lol:

you really need to think topics through when you're going to post something against PC gamers :P

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#132 Lonelynight
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he was forced to admit it after people pointed out lots of inconsistencies in his posts. it was hilarious :lol:

naval

Sure is

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#133 naval
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[QUOTE="naval"]

he was forced to admit it after people pointed out lots of inconsistencies in his posts. it was hilarious :lol:

_Pedro_

you really need to think topics through when you're going to post something against PC gamers :P

true ! he mentioned 8800 and 2 Gb ram and then said he said just looked okay on medium. it looked really fake

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#134 Zenfoldor
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[QUOTE="Franko_3"][QUOTE="shsonline"]

So recently I upgraded my PC to a "capable" current gen gaming PC. GeForce 8800, 2 GB RAM, 250 GB HD, Athlon dual core, etc. etc. I decided to get the games that I thought would be most appealing to a longtime console gamer.

My experience was mixed. I enjoyed the multiplayer aspect of SC, but did not enjoy the lack of communication between me and the other competitors. I enjoyed the graphics, but was by no means blown away by either games visuals on medium settings. I have played these games for a total of 11 days. Since then I have decided that PC gaming is not for me. I have gone back to playing COD4 and DMC4 on my 360. I'm sorry but I don't understand the appeal of PC games, and I don't know if its just me or if PC gaming is missing something. My 2 year old son would come around and watch as I played 360, but he doesn't do that with PC. My best friend thinks I'm going to become a nerd soon. Does anybody else who has TRIED to get into PC gaming felt like this?

shsonline

I don't actually believe you played a pc game

Its not my job to try to convince you. You sound like a Wii supporter. Its possible to actually try something new and not like it.

Just failed. PC hater, Wii hater, never played either one. Such an obvious lie makes you a liar, and poof, your credibility was gone. Try actually playing a PC or a Wii before you write posts trying to pretend you hate them because of gameplay and not fanboyism for your failing 360.

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#135 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="shsonline"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

You type in the search( The Start menu search ) :

run

press enter

Type in the run search:

dxdiag

done.

ToScA-

Time of this report: 2/22/2008, 20:57:54
Machine name: SAMUEL-PC
Operating System: Windows VistaTM Home Premium (6.0, Build 6000) (6000.vista_gdr.071009-1548)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gateway
System Model: GT5475E
BIOS: )Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+ (2 CPUs), ~2.1GHz
Memory: 1022MB RAM
Page File: 1950MB used, 489MB available
Windows Dir: C:Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6000.16386 32bit Unicode

You have only 1GB RAM, thats your problem right there :P get 2x 1 GB sticks and make it 3GB, you will be maxing those games easily ... but right now ... with only 1GB ram, your system wont play much at all within the last 3 years well.

3GB slaughters everything... and its easy to put in yourself.

Until you do that, your PC is not even "capable".

2 gigs should do these days.

Yes, but I assume he has 2x 512's , with 2 slots free, so he mayaswell get 2x 1GB (cheap ) so that it can last longer, and run more at once.

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#136 ToScA-
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[QUOTE="ToScA-"]

2 gigs should do these days.

Meu2k7

Yes, but I assume he has 2x 512's , with 2 slots free, so he mayaswell get 2x 1GB (cheap ) so that it can last longer, and run more at once.

True, true.

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#137 Freddie9027361
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Everyone is missing the most important thing here... what kind of retard upgrades their computer to try to get into PC gaming, rather than just picking up Starcraft and Half Life 1 (etc...) to play on their existing computer?
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#138 redstormrisen
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

If you want good communication on PC games, then you find servers with interesting players, bookmark it, and go there often, or search for clan/clan servers ...

So much better than random kid spam I get on 360 games.

horrowhip

no joke.. I can't play Halo 3 anymore because I can't stand hearing the n-bomb every 10 seconds... And, yes I did try other servers... 1 hour of switching matches and it was either a kid screaming or the n-bomb every 10 seconds...

I like Halo 3 MP(efinitely not my favorite though) and I don't ALWAYS get that but it is just too much...

You can change your setting to hear only people on your freinds list. Seeing I play at off peak time I never get this problem anyway but...

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#139 subrosian
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[QUOTE="cobrax25"]

get the orange box and download a ton of mods for it....than you will understand what makes PC gaming so much better.

or try something like BF2, or COH, something you will never find similar to on a console.....

shsonline

I'll try it. Do people actually communicate in the multiplayer sessions?

Do people actually communicate in Xbox 360 gaming sessions? My experience with Halo 3 has been that a few teammates might say something at the beginning of the game like "let's have three charge in and one stay back" and that's it. Every couple of games there is a kid singing, yelling, or eating the microphone that I have to mute.

I feel the game is still a blast though, and I communicate with my friends.

It's the same thing on PC - if you're playing with you friends, you set up a voice channel to chat, or use the chat function in the game to text each other. Otherwise? Communication depends on who you're playing with - it's generally less between strangers.

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#140 michael098
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You base your opinion on an entire platform on just 2 games?? Your clearly not interested in PC gaming or else you would have given it a proper go.
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#141 aliblabla2007
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Okay, so let me come clean with a couple of things. I lied about the 8800 and the new egg thing. And yes i added a gig on the RAM count so you guys would say Noob or whatever because you hermits are very critical of your specs. So I thought I would pad them a tad to fit in. But that's your fault not mine for creating that kind of peer pressure.shsonline

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/128347587844687500fail.jpg

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#142 Makari
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[QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="bignice12"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]LAWL, the guy says he didn't enjoy PC as much as console and the jealous Hermits tear him a new one. Talk about insecure the hermits are.shsonline

Exposing a liar=insecurity? since when?

Hermits jumped all over him even before he was exposed.

He's got you there.

PS I resent that. I wasn't "exposed". I came clean voluntarily to get my point across.

Explanation on my end - when you've worked with PC's in general for a while, you get a very very good idea of how it works and what to expect. I can't speak for everybody else in the thread, but every single thing you said didn't add up, and I just wasn't sure whether it was someone being really new to PC's and didn't understand or someone that was making it up. Like at $75 used, it would be an 8600GTS, or someone getting mildly ripped off on an 8600GT. Any kind of used 8800 still goes for well over $100 right now. And some of the games you mention auto-detect the graphical settings, and will auto-detect onto higher settings than medium if there's an 8800. :) That said, it doesn't sound like The Witcher is your style of game, as amazingly awesome as it gets. Like someone else mentioned, you were maybe 1/3-1/2 of the way into the tutorial level. To give you an idea of the perspective and time involved, if you had downloaded the free demo you'd have about 4 hours of gameplay left from where you are right now. 4 hours left, in the demo. SC is big and slow(er) than other RTS games, in addition to having a habit of beating up computers to steal their lunch money. Try World in Conflict (there's a free demo!), and Company of Heroes (also a free demo!). They're much faster-paced, both are very action-packed and both are very VERY pretty games to boot. I think you'd like them both, and WiC's team-based multiplayer has a fair amount of people using voice chat, because communication is important there. If you like Action-RPG's, grab the demo for Titan Quest. It's a Diablo clone, and pretty much the best of them. Getting the game + expansion together costs $20 on Steam. Online is pretty lame with no voice chat, but the game itself is fun in SP or with friends. NWN2 + expansion is also a very good straight RPG in the vein of a Bioware storyline, but I've got no idea if you would enjoy the game or not, as it's more tactical and dialogue-based. And grab the Orange Box. There's no demo for it (unless if you own an nVidia card, you can get a demo of Portal), but the game is an awesome package, and TF2 is good silly fun where people tend to use voice chat.
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#143 trizzle_a
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I have 3 words for you: World in Conflict.
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#144 Indestructible2
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There's a LOT more PC games than Witcher and Supreme Commander :wink:
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#145 JiveT
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So recently I upgraded my PC to a "capable" current gen gaming PC. GeForce 8800, 2 GB RAM, 250 GB HD, Athlon dual core, etc. etc. I decided to get the games that I thought would be most appealing to a longtime console gamer.

My experience was mixed. I enjoyed the multiplayer aspect of SC, but did not enjoy the lack of communication between me and the other competitors. I enjoyed the graphics, but was by no means blown away by either games visuals on medium settings. I have played these games for a total of 11 days. Since then I have decided that PC gaming is not for me. I have gone back to playing COD4 and DMC4 on my 360. I'm sorry but I don't understand the appeal of PC games, and I don't know if its just me or if PC gaming is missing something. My 2 year old son would come around and watch as I played 360, but he doesn't do that with PC. My best friend thinks I'm going to become a nerd soon. Does anybody else who has TRIED to get into PC gaming felt like this?

shsonline

PC games are for people who like to imagine the concept of fun but never actually have any in their life so they play things that are called games in search of this alien notion.

So don't feel bad you are just a normal person who likes fun video games.

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#146 MetroidPrimePwn
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PC games are for people who like to imagine the concept of fun but never actually have any in their life so they play things that are called games in search of this alien notion.

So don't feel bad you are just a normal person who likes fun video games.

JiveT

You know, it took me a long time to figure out that all of your Anti-PC Arguement posts were sarcastic jokes and that you weren't being serious with any of them. I used to think that you were a fanboy, but now that I see the humor in your posts, I enjoy reading them.

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#147 soulsofblayck
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a person can not judge pc gaming (or at least pc fpss) until they have played css - that's my 2 cents.

if you like fps games my suggestion is that you buy the orange box along with the source multiplayer pack (which includes css) and buy battlefield 2 ($10 on amazon). see if that changes your mind at all about pc gaming. at the very least get css which is like $20 on steam

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Why would a console player even dare to first try CSS? The players in that would obliterate a new comer immediately.

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#148 Riki101
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cod4 is best played on pc, better everything, you can even lean in cod4 for pc...
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#149 Arsenal325
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I hate people who do this.. your just like my xbox fanboy friend.. you get something.. try 1 or 2 games and say "Its not for me"

You dont invest any time into it.. And dont say 11 days is alot of time.. It isnt.. Go buy some good games.. then get some mods..

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#150 Gunraidan
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I brought a PS2 and played Valkyrie Profile 2 and Jak and Daxter. I hated them both. This console sucks, console gaming in general sucks. Back to playing handhelds.