If console exclusives are released on the pc, are they still a exclusive?

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#51 whoisryanmack
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[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]If you don't get my drift I really can't explain it. You'll logically argue all day and think you're winning, but all I'm saying is that there are alot of instances where a game will be more likely played on a console. Its just more accessible for alot of people. So why not just say its exclusive, the consoles aren't competing with pc's anyway.

..and yes, any argument about consoles is about casuals. Anyone, like you or I, who would actually care enough to discuss this are in the extreme minority.

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Very compelling argument you have! Why would it be considered exclusive?

"Oh i dont know. You're logic seems to make sense but my ramblings about how a game on more than one platform should be considered exclusive is right, because you are wrong."

Accesibility does not change how its the same game on more than one platform. Get over it. More copies of FEAR sold on the PC than the 360 or PS3. That doesnt make it a PC exclusive.

The main point I have is chill out. I said the exact same thing you are saying in my first post. It isn't technically exclusive. Some people just aren't really anal about every detail of facthood. In my view, coming on SW and calling something exclusive means consoles. I don't consider pc's as competitors to consoles.

speaking of getting over things....

this is SYSTEM WARS not CONSOLE WARS... if you have not noticed... PC games are talked about as much as any console here. Leave your own baseless views on whos in what market at the door. 

So when the TC asks for my opinion..what should I do? I suppose one option would be to jerk up the thread, but it's clear that position is filled.

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[QUOTE="shsonline"][QUOTE="AntiType"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="AntiType"]

How can you say they are a different market? I have a PC and therefor have no need to buy a 360... if there was no gaming pcs... I would have bought a 360... there you are... Same market

Oh.... and there are more PC users then there are ps3 users... right? so I guess PS3 games dont count becuase there are 50 times more pcs gamers out there... right? cuz its about sales! RE4 is GC exclusive!! cuz it sold like crap on PS2!!

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You are so wrong! There are plenty of games you would miss out on if you did not buy a 360. The only games that usually come to the PC are the shooters (1st AND 3rd) and RTS (which are usually PC first anyway), and the 360 is WAY more that just shooters regardless of what the fanboys say.

But anyway the PC is NOT a console, therefore further validating the term 'console exclusive'.

The term Console exclusive holds no water. Thats the point.

Should have also have "Japanese Console Exlusives" for games that only come out on Ps3 and Wii?

 

Sure it does. If a game is only coming out on one console then it holds an advantage for that console. That means the only other way you can get the game is if you have a gaming PC. There is an advantage to that.

agreed.

Hello big advantages.

Lets say I didn't know how to upgrade a PC? Or I only had so much money to spend? Those reasons would make me want to go and purchase the console that game is also available for.

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Sure it does. If a game is only coming out on one console then it holds an advantage for that console. That means the only other way you can get the game is if you have a gaming PC. There is an advantage to that.

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Or just get it on your PC because it doesnt have exclusive titles. How many people here have skipped out on buying a 360 because they could play it on their PC? More than you'd like to admit.

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#55 XaosII
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big advantages.

Lets say I didn't know how to upgrade a PC? Or I only had so much money to spend? Those reasons would make me want to go and purchase the console that game is also available for.

Ultimas_Blade

So if someone didnt have the money for PS3, they could jsut get a 360/PS3 title on their 360. Pretending like the PS3 version doesnt exist doesnt change how they can still play the game without it.

How's that any different than it being on PC? 

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#56 whoisryanmack
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[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

big advantages.

Lets say I didn't know how to upgrade a PC? Or I only had so much money to spend? Those reasons would make me want to go and purchase the console that game is also available for.

XaosII

So if someone didnt have the money for PS3, they could jsut get a 360/PS3 title on their 360. Pretending like the PS3 version doesnt exist doesnt change how they can still play the game without it.

How's that any different than it being on PC? 

The reasons he just gave. PS3's and 360's are cheap and ready to go out of the box. Your buddies can come over and play too, and you all have the exact same one at your house. There's alot of advantages consoles have in the market that you are overlooking. Doesn't mean they're more popular than pc's, they just have their place and its enough for some AAA sales.

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#57 XaosII
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The main point I have is chill out. I said the exact same thing you are saying in my first post. It isn't technically exclusive. Some people just aren't really anal about every detail of facthood. In my view, coming on SW and calling something exclusive means consoles. I don't consider pc's as competitors to consoles.

speaking of getting over things....

whoisryanmack

Thats very cute....but that doesnt stop anyone from enjoying the game without having said console. Arent exclusives a major reason to buy the console in the first place among other things? If it no longer has them or as many then you dont have as much of an incentive to buy it.

You cant honestly say the Xbox didnt lose any sales due to how many of its titles were on the PC. I believe Halo sold over a million on the PC despite coming out late. That could've been many, many potential Xbox owners....I see that as directly effecting console sales. Or do you deny it?

EDIT: Meant Halo 1 not 2 

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[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

big advantages.

Lets say I didn't know how to upgrade a PC? Or I only had so much money to spend? Those reasons would make me want to go and purchase the console that game is also available for.

XaosII

So if someone didnt have the money for PS3, they could jsut get a 360/PS3 title on their 360. Pretending like the PS3 version doesnt exist doesnt change how they can still play the game without it.

How's that any different than it being on PC? 

Buying a console and buying parts for a PC are two very different things.  That being so, you have problems making this arguement 360/PS3 as you do for 360/PC.
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[QUOTE="shsonline"]

Sure it does. If a game is only coming out on one console then it holds an advantage for that console. That means the only other way you can get the game is if you have a gaming PC. There is an advantage to that.

XaosII

Or just get it on your PC because it doesnt have exclusive titles. How many people here have skipped out on buying a 360 because they could play it on their PC? More than you'd like to admit.

 

And this is why people like to hide behind the whole "buh bu but I can get it on PC" argument. Because there's NO evidence or statistics that shows that this happens even enough to be relevant. If you could perhaps show me a game that was released on both PC and 360 simultaneously and the majority of copies sold on the PC, then maybe I can accept that argument that PC is detrimental to 360 sales. But personally I have a hard time believing that the MAJORITY of gamers that would normally buy a console would go to the videogame aisle, see a game that is on PC and decide, well, I'd rather spend 600.00 to upgrade my system and then go to the PC gaming aisle and pick up this game than buy a 400.00 console that I'm more likely to play because I've always played console. 

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#60 AntiType
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[QUOTE="AntiType"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]If you don't get my drift I really can't explain it. You'll logically argue all day and think you're winning, but all I'm saying is that there are alot of instances where a game will be more likely played on a console. Its just more accessible for alot of people. So why not just say its exclusive, the consoles aren't competing with pc's anyway.

..and yes, any argument about consoles is about casuals. Anyone, like you or I, who would actually care enough to discuss this are in the extreme minority.

whoisryanmack

Very compelling argument you have! Why would it be considered exclusive?

"Oh i dont know. You're logic seems to make sense but my ramblings about how a game on more than one platform should be considered exclusive is right, because you are wrong."

Accesibility does not change how its the same game on more than one platform. Get over it. More copies of FEAR sold on the PC than the 360 or PS3. That doesnt make it a PC exclusive.

The main point I have is chill out. I said the exact same thing you are saying in my first post. It isn't technically exclusive. Some people just aren't really anal about every detail of facthood. In my view, coming on SW and calling something exclusive means consoles. I don't consider pc's as competitors to consoles.

speaking of getting over things....

this is SYSTEM WARS not CONSOLE WARS... if you have not noticed... PC games are talked about as much as any console here. Leave your own baseless views on whos in what market at the door.

So when the TC asks for my opinion..what should I do? I suppose one option would be to jerk up the thread, but it's clear that position is filled.

The whole point of this Thread is so that there can be vailidation in adding games that are not exclusives into a thread where exclusives are battleing out. Its all silly. all this "console exclusives" is just some kinda means to brag about console you own.

Companies see exclusives for what they REALLY are. Leverage to bring in more userbase. "Console Exclusives" can do no such thing. Time Exclusive deals are even more important. As a gamer... I did not help sony out at all becuase I played FF7+8 on a PC. Oblivion and BioShock can be played on my PC... so what power does a "Console Exclusive" have? You cant just pretend like PC gaming is not an Option... Yes it is in direct compition with Consoles.

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[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]The main point I have is chill out. I said the exact same thing you are saying in my first post. It isn't technically exclusive. Some people just aren't really anal about every detail of facthood. In my view, coming on SW and calling something exclusive means consoles. I don't consider pc's as competitors to consoles.

speaking of getting over things....

XaosII

Thats very cute....but that doesnt stop anyone from enjoying the game without having said console. Arent exclusives a major reason to buy the console in the first place among other things? If it no longer has them or as many then you dont have as much of an incentive to buy it.

You cant honestly say the Xbox didnt lose any sales due to how many of its titles were on the PC. I believe Halo 2 sold over a million on the PC despite coming out late. That could've been many, many potential Xbox owners....I see that as directly effecting console sales. Or do you deny it?

Don't you think the PS3 will lose some sales because 360 players will be able to play with PC players?  There are advantages for a game to be console exclusive.
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[QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

big advantages.

Lets say I didn't know how to upgrade a PC? Or I only had so much money to spend? Those reasons would make me want to go and purchase the console that game is also available for.

whoisryanmack

So if someone didnt have the money for PS3, they could jsut get a 360/PS3 title on their 360. Pretending like the PS3 version doesnt exist doesnt change how they can still play the game without it.

How's that any different than it being on PC?

The reasons he just gave. PS3's and 360's are cheap and ready to go out of the box. Your buddies can come over and play too, and you all have the exact same one at your house. There's alot of advantages consoles have in the market that you are overlooking. Doesn't mean they're more popular than pc's, they just have their place and its enough for some AAA sales.

Its the same game.

On more than one platform.

What the platform is, doesnt change this fact. That is a title thats not exclusive. Your reasons you give doesnt stop ANYONE from being able to enjoy the game on a PC or a console any more or less.

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#63 XaosII
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Don't you think the PS3 will lose some sales because 360 players will be able to play with PC players? There are advantages for a game to be console exclusive.Ultimas_Blade

Having a title with cross platform gaming means that it has a potential for a larger user base, so yeah, it could have an effect on PS3.

Has nothing to do with how theres lots of people who havent picked up a 360 because only a tiny handful of worthwhile titles cant be played on their PC.

Can you convice someone with even a decent PC to spend $400 on 360 exclusives? Some....but not too many.

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What really funny is the pc version is cheaper ,better looking and has mods that kill the console version of the console "exclusive" but when pc games come to console they are watered down for more money. All the free maps/weapons ect on pc games become dlc on live for even more money. Ms is just pimping the pc games to console tricks and they love it.
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Yes they are.

Cows were more than happy to refer to Crossfire and Kane & Lynch as 360 exclusives. 

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#66 TekkenMaster606
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The term console exclusive does not exist. It's used by people to avoid the fact that the PC is a gaming machine on the same levels as everything else.
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Bottom line guys is the data shows that more people buy console games than PC games. PERIOD. So if you want to go and say more people are going to not buy 360s because certain titles come from PC, you're wrong. More likely, looking at this data, you could make the argument that PC gamers have more to lose as there is a substantially more powerful console gamer market and people who have consoles will more likely buy console games than PC games.

 
http://www.theesa.com/facts/sales_genre_data.php

 

Really, you guys need to stop with this. Why not accept that we are both privileged to share some of the best titles out there and that some people will buy them on PC and some people will buy them on console. Games that originate on PC are most likely to be more successful on PC and games that originate on console are likely to be successful on console. But the simple fact that 360 has those games where the others don't, means the 360 is in a position of advantage over the other consoles. Whether you want to put a label on it (teh console exclusive) or anything doesn't matter. The 360 is still BETTER than the other competing consoles if you look at it from the perspective it has those games whereas the others don't. 

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Bottom line guys is the data shows that more people buy console games than PC games. PERIOD. So if you want to go and say more people are going to not buy 360s because certain titles come from PC, you're wrong. More likely, looking at this data, you could make the argument that PC gamers have more to lose as there is a substantially more powerful console gamer market and people who have consoles will more likely buy console games than PC games.


http://www.theesa.com/facts/sales_genre_data.php

 

Really, you guys need to stop with this. Why not accept that we are both privileged to share some of the best titles out there and that some people will buy them on PC and some people will buy them on console. Games that originate on PC are most likely to be more successful on PC and games that originate on console are likely to be successful on console. But the simple fact that 360 has those games where the others don't, means the 360 is in a position of advantage over the other consoles. Whether you want to put a label on it (teh console exclusive) or anything doesn't matter. The 360 is still BETTER than the other competing consoles if you look at it from the perspective it has those games whereas the others don't.

shsonline

Actually... PC games sell better then Ps3 games... so when dealing with exclusives... actually the PS3 doesnt count... :roll: 

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The PC is not competing against all consoles at once, it's another gaming machine, just like the others. So in reality, it's competing with each individual machine.

 

You compare ONE console against the PC, and there are many cases where PC games are outselling the games on the one specific machine.  

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u can say what u want, but i know as someone who has a core 2 duo e6300, x1900 gt, 2 gigs main memory (as well as a nice razer copperhead i got at a $40 discount), and an xbox 360 with xbl gold, i can say when looking at games like rainbow six vegas, graw, graw 2, splinter cell da, and ut 3, i didn't/not even consider(ing) buying any of these titles formy pc. the lone exception being maybe ut3, but i'm hooked on 360 version until the r600 comes out and at an affordable price. otherwise, its just not worth it for me to buy the pc version.

thats the honest truth.

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[QUOTE="shsonline"]

Bottom line guys is the data shows that more people buy console games than PC games. PERIOD. So if you want to go and say more people are going to not buy 360s because certain titles come from PC, you're wrong. More likely, looking at this data, you could make the argument that PC gamers have more to lose as there is a substantially more powerful console gamer market and people who have consoles will more likely buy console games than PC games.


http://www.theesa.com/facts/sales_genre_data.php

 

Really, you guys need to stop with this. Why not accept that we are both privileged to share some of the best titles out there and that some people will buy them on PC and some people will buy them on console. Games that originate on PC are most likely to be more successful on PC and games that originate on console are likely to be successful on console. But the simple fact that 360 has those games where the others don't, means the 360 is in a position of advantage over the other consoles. Whether you want to put a label on it (teh console exclusive) or anything doesn't matter. The 360 is still BETTER than the other competing consoles if you look at it from the perspective it has those games whereas the others don't.

AntiType

Actually... PC games sell better then Ps3 games... so when dealing with exclusives... actually the PS3 doesnt count... :roll:

Oh... and dont those graphs put up 3 consoles and all handhelds up against the PC alone? Lets see how a 360 vs every other system graph will look like... 

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u can say what u want, but i know as someone who has a core 2 duo e6300, x1900 gt, 2 gigs main memory (as well as a nice razer copperhead i got at a $40 discount), and an xbox 360 with xbl gold, i can say when looking at games like rainbow six vegas, graw, graw 2, splinter cell da, and ut 3, i didn't/not even consider(ing) buying any of these titles formy pc. the lone exception being maybe ut3, but i'm hooked on 360 version until the r600 comes out and at an affordable price. otherwise, its just not worth it for me to buy the pc version.

thats the honest truth.

Big_T-Mac

 

You say it's not worth it, but offer no reasons why.

 

Your rig will produce visuals way better than the Xbox 360. Do you enjoy paying $10 more or something? 

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u can say what u want, but i know as someone who has a core 2 duo e6300, x1900 gt, 2 gigs main memory (as well as a nice razer copperhead i got at a $40 discount), and an xbox 360 with xbl gold, i can say when looking at games like rainbow six vegas, graw, graw 2, splinter cell da, and ut 3, i didn't/not even consider(ing) buying any of these titles formy pc. the lone exception being maybe ut3, but i'm hooked on 360 version until the r600 comes out and at an affordable price. otherwise, its just not worth it for me to buy the pc version.

thats the honest truth.

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You forgot the /sarcasm at the end lmao  

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would it make everyone happier if 360/pc games were called microsoft exclusive? thats seems pretty damn fair. and essentially thats what they are.
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[QUOTE="AntiType"][QUOTE="shsonline"]

Bottom line guys is the data shows that more people buy console games than PC games. PERIOD. So if you want to go and say more people are going to not buy 360s because certain titles come from PC, you're wrong. More likely, looking at this data, you could make the argument that PC gamers have more to lose as there is a substantially more powerful console gamer market and people who have consoles will more likely buy console games than PC games.


http://www.theesa.com/facts/sales_genre_data.php

 

Really, you guys need to stop with this. Why not accept that we are both privileged to share some of the best titles out there and that some people will buy them on PC and some people will buy them on console. Games that originate on PC are most likely to be more successful on PC and games that originate on console are likely to be successful on console. But the simple fact that 360 has those games where the others don't, means the 360 is in a position of advantage over the other consoles. Whether you want to put a label on it (teh console exclusive) or anything doesn't matter. The 360 is still BETTER than the other competing consoles if you look at it from the perspective it has those games whereas the others don't.

AntiType

Actually... PC games sell better then Ps3 games... so when dealing with exclusives... actually the PS3 doesnt count... :roll:

Oh... and dont those graphs put up 3 consoles and all handhelds up against the PC alone? Lets see how a 360 vs every other system graph will look like...

 

360 and PC are like cousins. Brothers, even. You should stop making them out like they are competing enemies. 

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would it make everyone happier if 360/pc games were called microsoft exclusive? thats seems pretty damn fair. and essentially thats what they are.Big_T-Mac

 

But they are not Microsoft exclusive. In all reality, us PC gamers would prefer a different operating system with less bloatware and overhead to game on. We're forced to use Windows because of years of monopolistic tactics.

 

And Microsoft does not get paid for PC game. There are no licensing fees to be made. That's not really exclusive if you ask me.

 

If it's on the PC, it's not exclusive.

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[QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]

u can say what u want, but i know as someone who has a core 2 duo e6300, x1900 gt, 2 gigs main memory (as well as a nice razer copperhead i got at a $40 discount), and an xbox 360 with xbl gold, i can say when looking at games like rainbow six vegas, graw, graw 2, splinter cell da, and ut 3, i didn't/not even consider(ing) buying any of these titles formy pc. the lone exception being maybe ut3, but i'm hooked on 360 version until the r600 comes out and at an affordable price. otherwise, its just not worth it for me to buy the pc version.

thats the honest truth.

TekkenMaster606

 

You say it's not worth it, but offer no reasons why.

 

Your rig will produce visuals way better than the Xbox 360. Do you enjoy paying $10 more or something? 

cuz my x1900 wont be enough to give me the graphics and framerates i can achieve on 360.  plus, it removes the feeling i get when playing online that someones beating me simply because they paid more for their pc and is better than my pc.
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[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]Don't you think the PS3 will lose some sales because 360 players will be able to play with PC players? There are advantages for a game to be console exclusive.XaosII

Having a title with cross platform gaming means that it has a potential for a larger user base, so yeah, it could have an effect on PS3.

Has nothing to do with how theres lots of people who havent picked up a 360 because only a tiny handful of worthwhile titles cant be played on their PC.

Can you convice someone with even a decent PC to spend $400 on 360 exclusives? Some....but not too many.

What? I can convince plenty people to buy a console over a PC!

And there are plenty of titles that aren't shared with PC so don't try to play it off like there isn't.

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] cuz my x1900 wont be enough to give me the graphics and framerates i can achieve on 360 Big_T-Mac

 

You're kidding, right?  

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#80 Big_T-Mac
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[QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]would it make everyone happier if 360/pc games were called microsoft exclusive? thats seems pretty damn fair. and essentially thats what they are.TekkenMaster606

 

But they are not Microsoft exclusive. In all reality, us PC gamers would prefer a different operating system with less bloatware and overhead to game on. We're forced to use Windows because of years of monopolistic tactics.

 

And Microsoft does not get paid for PC game. There are no licensing fees to be made. That's not really exclusive if you ask me.

 

If it's on the PC, it's not exclusive.

i didn't ask if it was fair, i remarked simply what os theyre on. considering both are running microsoft oses (again, whether u like it or not), i think its fair to give credit where credit is due. theyre microsoft exclusive.
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#81 TekkenMaster606
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It's not Microsoft exclusive, it's not console exclusive.

 

If it's on the PC, it's a multiplatform game. How hard of a concept is that to grasp?  

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#82 Ultimas_Blade
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It's not Microsoft exclusive, it's not console exclusive.

 

If it's on the PC, it's a multiplatform game. How hard of a concept is that to grasp?  

TekkenMaster606
Nobody's denying that it is multiplatform, but that doesn't change the fact that it is console exclusive.
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[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="AntiType"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]If you don't get my drift I really can't explain it. You'll logically argue all day and think you're winning, but all I'm saying is that there are alot of instances where a game will be more likely played on a console. Its just more accessible for alot of people. So why not just say its exclusive, the consoles aren't competing with pc's anyway.

..and yes, any argument about consoles is about casuals. Anyone, like you or I, who would actually care enough to discuss this are in the extreme minority.

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Very compelling argument you have! Why would it be considered exclusive?

"Oh i dont know. You're logic seems to make sense but my ramblings about how a game on more than one platform should be considered exclusive is right, because you are wrong."

Accesibility does not change how its the same game on more than one platform. Get over it. More copies of FEAR sold on the PC than the 360 or PS3. That doesnt make it a PC exclusive.

The main point I have is chill out. I said the exact same thing you are saying in my first post. It isn't technically exclusive. Some people just aren't really anal about every detail of facthood. In my view, coming on SW and calling something exclusive means consoles. I don't consider pc's as competitors to consoles.

speaking of getting over things....

this is SYSTEM WARS not CONSOLE WARS... if you have not noticed... PC games are talked about as much as any console here. Leave your own baseless views on whos in what market at the door.

So when the TC asks for my opinion..what should I do? I suppose one option would be to jerk up the thread, but it's clear that position is filled.

The whole point of this Thread is so that there can be vailidation in adding games that are not exclusives into a thread where exclusives are battleing out. Its all silly. all this "console exclusives" is just some kinda means to brag about console you own.

Companies see exclusives for what they REALLY are. Leverage to bring in more userbase. "Console Exclusives" can do no such thing. Time Exclusive deals are even more important. As a gamer... I did not help sony out at all becuase I played FF7+8 on a PC. Oblivion and BioShock can be played on my PC... so what power does a "Console Exclusive" have? You cant just pretend like PC gaming is not an Option... Yes it is in direct compition with Consoles.

Sorry, but the reality is that not everyone is going to play the pc version of a game. It doesn't even need to be that many people to make it worth the developers time. A few million is like a sales bonanza in terms of console games.

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#84 BrooklynBomber
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[QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]] cuz my x1900 wont be enough to give me the graphics and framerates i can achieve on 360 TekkenMaster606

 

You're kidding, right?

This guy must have a 15" monitor or is legally blind :lol: 

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#85 TekkenMaster606
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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

It's not Microsoft exclusive, it's not console exclusive.

 

If it's on the PC, it's a multiplatform game. How hard of a concept is that to grasp?

Ultimas_Blade

Nobody's denying that it is multiplatform, but that doesn't change the fact that it is console exclusive.

 

The problem with the term console exclusive is that hermits don't care. That term means nothing. It's something console fanboys use to claim ownage on other console fanboys.

 

Funny stuff.  

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#86 Big_T-Mac
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[QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]] cuz my x1900 wont be enough to give me the graphics and framerates i can achieve on 360 TekkenMaster606

 

You're kidding, right?  

nope.  sure theres optimum  performance and blah blah blah, but the framerates arent as steady as the 360 versions. id rather have a constant 30 than having 60-25 swinging depending on how many ppl on screen/explosions/etc.  u know why? i don't notice it being 30 the entire time, but i do notice when games dip in framerates, and it gives me a less cohesive immersion in the game.
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#87 Big_T-Mac
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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

It's not Microsoft exclusive, it's not console exclusive.

 

If it's on the PC, it's a multiplatform game. How hard of a concept is that to grasp?  

Ultimas_Blade
Nobody's denying that it is multiplatform, but that doesn't change the fact that it is console exclusive.

bingo.
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#88 BrooklynBomber
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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

[QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]] cuz my x1900 wont be enough to give me the graphics and framerates i can achieve on 360 Big_T-Mac

 

You're kidding, right?

nope. sure theres optimum performance and blah blah blah, but the framerates arent as steady as the 360 versions. id rather have a constant 30 than having 60-25 swinging depending on how many ppl on screen/explosions/etc. u know why? i don't notice it being 30 the entire time, but i do notice when games dip in framerates, and it gives me a less cohesive immersion in the game.

You must have a ton of crap running in the background task manager is your friend use it. 

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Uhm, an X1900 will give you 1280x1024, Full HDR, 16xHQ AF, great AA. Not to mention that the loading times on the PC version will blow away the Xbox 360.

 

Framerates dropping in the teens? Nowhere near as much as it staying above 30FPS. :lol: 

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#90 Big_T-Mac
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[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

It's not Microsoft exclusive, it's not console exclusive.

 

If it's on the PC, it's a multiplatform game. How hard of a concept is that to grasp?

TekkenMaster606

Nobody's denying that it is multiplatform, but that doesn't change the fact that it is console exclusive.

 

The problem with the term console exclusive is that hermits don't care. That term means nothing. It's something console fanboys use to claim ownage on other console fanboys.

 

Funny stuff.  

The problem with the hermits is that ppl don't care. They mean nothing. It's something hermits use to claim ownage on  console owners, as if their self richeous, arrogant, prickish opinion mattered.

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#91 Big_T-Mac
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Uhm, an X1900 will give you 1280x1024, Full HDR, 16xHQ AF, great AA. Not to mention that the loading times on the PC version will blow away the Xbox 360.

 

Framerates dropping in the teens? Nowhere near as much as it staying above 30FPS. :lol: 

TekkenMaster606

here's just one of your problems; u dont listen.  i never said teens, i said 25.

 

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#92 TekkenMaster606
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Man, all these PC EXCLUSIVES that I'll be enjoying this year

 

Jericho, Bioshock, Crysis, Spore, Empire Earth III, Command and Conquer III, Supreme Commander, Lost Planet, Half Life 2 EP 2, Left 4 Dead, Portal.

 

2007 is full of "PC exclusives". I mean, if the term console exclusive applies, well then. I guess it works both ways now.  

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#93 Ultimas_Blade
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[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

It's not Microsoft exclusive, it's not console exclusive.

 

If it's on the PC, it's a multiplatform game. How hard of a concept is that to grasp?

TekkenMaster606

Nobody's denying that it is multiplatform, but that doesn't change the fact that it is console exclusive.

 

The problem with the term console exclusive is that hermits don't care. That term means nothing. It's something console fanboys use to claim ownage on other console fanboys.

 

Funny stuff.  

Just because the hermits don't care doesn't mean anything. 

Without the term the fanboys on the other side of the fence claim ownage!  How many times do I have to see "LOLZ that game's on the PC! You pHail n00b!!!1!!!!!" ?

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#94 Big_T-Mac
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Wait.  Why the hell do I need to defend myself to someone who willingly listens to Gwen Stefani?

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Wait. Why the hell do I need to defend myself to someone who willingly listens to Gwen Stefani?

Big_T-Mac

 

Oh look, you're reaching out and trying to bash a personal preference. Oooh. I'm skeered. Oh no, my music choices have everything to do with this argument. 

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#96 Big_T-Mac
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Man, all these PC EXCLUSIVES that I'll be enjoying this year

 

Jericho, Bioshock, Crysis, Spore, Empire Earth III, Command and Conquer III, Supreme Commander, Lost Planet, Half Life 2 EP 2, Left 4 Dead, Portal.

 

2007 is full of "PC exclusives". I mean, if the term console exclusive applies, well then. I guess it works both ways now.  

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nobody said it didn't.  the only problem is that ur "competition" is mac and linux. 
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[QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]

Wait. Why the hell do I need to defend myself to someone who willingly listens to Gwen Stefani?

TekkenMaster606

 

Oh look, you're reaching out and trying to bash a personal preference. Oooh. I'm skeered. Oh no, my music choices have everything to do with this argument. 

Hey hey, play nice kids :(
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#98 Big_T-Mac
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[QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]

Wait. Why the hell do I need to defend myself to someone who willingly listens to Gwen Stefani?

TekkenMaster606

 

Oh look, you're reaching out and trying to bash a personal preference. Oooh. I'm skeered. Oh no, my music choices have everything to do with this argument. 

skeered isn't a word. i'm not "l337" like you tho, so maybve i'm wrong.
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#99 Big_T-Mac
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Oh look, you're reaching out and trying to bash a personal preference. Oooh. I'm skeered. Oh no, my platform choices have everything to do with your life, apparently. 

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#100 Big_T-Mac
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100!