If console exclusives are released on the pc, are they still a exclusive?

I think it's all frame of reference.  MOST of the times when I see game list comparisons, it's PS3 vs 360.  Now unless the person with the PS3 also has a PC, there are games that would come to 360 vs PC that one would NOT be able to play with a PS3, but can with a 360.

So while games may not be entirely exclusive, I have yet to see a multiplat title that was PC/PS3 only instead of PC/360 or PC/PS3/360, so those games should still be allowed to used as ammo against the PS3's title list.

Of course that's only one specific example...

I think it's all frame of reference. MOST of the times when I see game list comparisons, it's PS3 vs 360. Now unless the person with the PS3 also has a PC, there are games that would come to 360 vs PC that one would NOT be able to play with a PS3, but can with a 360.

So while games may not be entirely exclusive, I have yet to see a multiplat title that was PC/PS3 only instead of PC/360 or PC/PS3/360, so those games should still be allowed to used as ammo against the PS3's title list.

Of course that's only one specific example...

MyopicCanadian

You're right. Its a game the PS3 doesnt have. Doesn't change how its still multiplat.

Lems and cows are trying to play who has the bigger "bomb" (replace bombs with a word i cant say ). And its quite sad from the lemmings to try to pathetically justify how they have these PC-360 "exclusive" titles wehn they can easily play them without the 360.

The technical answer is no. The actual answer is simple. It's exclusive in the console market, which is in direct competition, whereas the pc and console market are not in direct competion. You may have a powerful gaming computer, but the bottom line is most people don't. Console games sell about 4 times as much as computer games. And if you look at the top selling games for PC and the top selling games for console, you can see that are so completely unrelated that it can be logically argued that PC gamers commonly don't buy console games and console gamers don't buy PC games.

 

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shsonline

I wouldn't generalize and say PC Gamers aren't console gamers, and vice versa, that's just not true. People might prefer pc to console or vice vera, but there are tons of gamers that like both. You really shouldn't underestimate the PC and it's sales. The PC worldwide is the most popular gaming platform, although mostly casual. If you were to compare the PC against each console seperately, you would see that the PC holds it's own and in some cases, outsells, with the PS2 being the only system with an equal user base. But since were in the "all consoles" vs. "PC"...line of thinking, which is complete BS to begin with, we have various misconceptions. If the PC was that miniscule, it wouldn't have hundreds of games coming out on it year after year, not to mention all the casual games that make up the majority of the total gaming market.

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I think it's all frame of reference. MOST of the times when I see game list comparisons, it's PS3 vs 360. Now unless the person with the PS3 also has a PC, there are games that would come to 360 vs PC that one would NOT be able to play with a PS3, but can with a 360.

So while games may not be entirely exclusive, I have yet to see a multiplat title that was PC/PS3 only instead of PC/360 or PC/PS3/360, so those games should still be allowed to used as ammo against the PS3's title list.

Of course that's only one specific example...

XaosII

You're right. Its a game the PS3 doesnt have. Doesn't change how its still multiplat.

Lems and cows are trying to play who has the bigger "bomb" (replace bombs with a word i cant say ). And its quite sad from the lemmings to try to pathetically justify how they have these PC-360 "exclusive" titles wehn they can easily play them without the 360.

Not to mention, a lot of the titles that are multiplat are PC franchises first, ports second, but if one happens to be on their platform, it's turns into the "bomb" reference, very silly indeed. Especially the fact that most gamers don't go to message boards and argue who has the bigger "bomb" to begin with. They just play and have fun.  

I have yet to see a multiplat title that was PC/PS3.

 

MyopicCanadian

Which is why the lemmings have to use terms like console exclusive. 6 years later, the Xbox brand has yet to really set it's library apart from the PC. 

A game like Halo is considered Xbox exclusive if the PC isn't somewhere in the conversation and the conversation is only about consoles.  For instance, if you're talking about Bioshock when comparing the 360 to the PS3, Bioshock counts as exclusive since Bioshock isn't on the PS3.  It's the same thing as when people laugh at the Wii for not getting a game like GTAIV.  If you're comparing the 360 to the Wii, GTAIV counts as exclusive for the 360 since it isn't on the Wii.

But then again, Bioshock wouldn't really be 360 exclusive.  It would be just a game that isn't on the PS3.

i think pc is in its own section just like handhelds are in there oen sectionsolidsnakeo

That would be true , if the simple fact that we are pushing in the same game areas. 

[QUOTE="snyper1982"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="snyper1982"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

It's not Microsoft exclusive, it's not console exclusive.

 

If it's on the PC, it's a multiplatform game. How hard of a concept is that to grasp?

Danm_999

You might as well turn around and talk to your wall. They are acvting like little kids. They believe no one should have a differing opinion. You already conceded that it is technically multi plat, but that your opinion is that it is still console exclusive. If they can't handle that, screw them.

It's not an issue of opinions though. Unless we want to fundamentally change what we mean by the word 'exclusive'.

And heavy editorializing and calling people children doesn't make your argument magically correct.

Are you denying that this argument is MAINLY used in comparing the PS3 to the 360?

How the heck did you get that from what I wrote?

It doesn't matter WHAT your comparing it too, whether it be the PS3, Wii, 3D0 or Sega Genesis.

It's exclusive if it's only available on one platform. If you try and artificially construct circumstances where certain systems are excluded from the rule you leave yourself open to massively illogical paradoxes, as well as basically ignoring the meaning, and the SW accepted meaning, of the word exclusive.

So when games between the PS3 and 360 are being compared, you should exclude the ones coming out on PC? Gotcha.... 

would it make everyone happier if 360/pc games were called microsoft exclusive? thats seems pretty damn fair. and essentially thats what they are.Big_T-Mac

A game like Halo is considered Xbox exclusive if the PC isn't somewhere in the conversation and the conversation is only about consoles. For instance, if you're talking about Bioshock when comparing the 360 to the PS3, Bioshock counts as exclusive since Bioshock isn't on the PS3. It's the same thing as when people laugh at the Wii for not getting a game like GTAIV. If you're comparing the 360 to the Wii, GTAIV counts as exclusive for the 360 since it isn't on the Wii.

But then again, Bioshock wouldn't really be 360 exclusive. It would be just a game that isn't on the PS3.

-The-G-Man-

You would think this would be an easy concept to grasp, but you will be amazed at how fanboys love to argue. It is sad really.

When people compare a 360 to the PS3, you don't get to just magically discount the 360 games that are on the PC as well, as that is idiotic. I own al, Gaming PC, 360, wii, and PS3. I am not a fanboy, maybe that is why I don't have a problem with someone using PC/360 games when being compared to the PS3, as the simple fact is that the PS3 will never get the game....

[QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]would it make everyone happier if 360/pc games were called microsoft exclusive? thats seems pretty damn fair. and essentially thats what they are.Hewkii

Have to have windows to play, you don't have to have Intel. 

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]would it make everyone happier if 360/pc games were called microsoft exclusive? thats seems pretty damn fair. and essentially thats what they are.snyper1982

Have to have windows to play, you don't have to have Intel. 

[QUOTE="snyper1982"]

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]would it make everyone happier if 360/pc games were called microsoft exclusive? thats seems pretty damn fair. and essentially thats what they are.Hewkii

Have to have windows to play, you don't have to have Intel.

Oh yeah? You aren't going to be playing many PC games without windows.... If you are a PC gamer, not using Windows, you might as well not even count. There are pretty much no games for other OS's. 

Oh yeah? You aren't going to be playing many PC games without windows.... If you are a PC gamer, not using Windows, you might as well not even count. There are pretty much no games for other OS's. 

snyper1982

It's either excluse or not. 'Console Exclusive' is just a away fanboys try to justify multiplats' that are only on their console and pc.GundamGuy0

A PC is not a console and a console is not a PC. Very simple. Nintendo, MS and Sony are part of the console gaming universe. No matter what you think Console gaming is not the same as PC gaming, they both are about video games but they have different fans and tastes at times and different appeals and dislikes.

Console exclusive exists.

And btw MS at times seems to want games on the PC and welcome it. I mean look at Halo or this who Windows Live thing. They are doing a cross platform live experience. If they were worried about PC ruining the 360 they would stay away from the PC but they are working along side it. So that's just another reason to me that having their games on PC doesn't damage them greatly. I mean Gears of War will be on PC when? Years from now 

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Oh yeah? You aren't going to be playing many PC games without windows.... If you are a PC gamer, not using Windows, you might as well not even count. There are pretty much no games for other OS's.

Hewkii

I give you This . Just look at all thos incompatible games. Don't make me laugh.

I give you This . Just look at all thos incompatible games. Don't make me laugh.snyper1982

[QUOTE="snyper1982"]I give you This . Just look at all thos incompatible games. Don't make me laugh.Hewkii

Who cares? How many people are honestly going to use this to play games on a MAC? In order to really play PC games, you need windows. Get out of here. LOL. You act like playing 2% f the games makes this a viable alternative to windows. LOL.

Oh yeah, Steam games aren't Windows only anyways. There a lot of them availible on Linux. 

Who cares? How many people are honestly going to use this to play games on a MAC? In order to really play PC games, you need windows. Get out of here. LOL. You act like playing 2% f the games makes this a viable alternative to windows. LOL.

snyper1982

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="snyper1982"]I give you This . Just look at all thos incompatible games. Don't make me laugh.snyper1982

Who cares? How many people are honestly going to use this to play games on a MAC? In order to really play PC games, you need windows. Get out of here. LOL. You act like playing 2% f the games makes this a viable alternative to windows. LOL.

Oh yeah, Steam games aren't Windows only anyways. There a lot of them availible on Linux.

You can play all games on linux as well, not with the same performance, but with Cedega for instance it's very easy. While linux isn't as popular here in the States, it's much more popular in Europe, where PC gaming is much bigger. I have two linux boxes that I use to play RTS and less hardware intensive games, than let's say your average FPS. Still, all OS's aside, MS doesn't see a penny on any PC game sold unless it's developed under the Microsoft Games Studio, which is a minority of games on the PC. You honestly can't say that PC Gaming = Microsoft, as PC games are independent in nature. 

I think that people are too literally interpreting the term exclusive. If a game is a console exclusive, does it matter that it's also coming to the PC. PC sales pale in comparison to console sales, aside from the WOW phenomenon. If a game is coming to only one console it's a console exclusive. If it's multiplatform it's coming to more than one console. If developers want to throw the "holier than thou" PC gamers a bone, then that's great. And if a developer want's to create a game that's too graphic intensive, and expansive for a console, that's their perogative. We all know what the console wars are about; there about selling games that are exclusive to their console, and the last time I checked, the PC is not a console. kevbo77

And a console is just another word, for another type of PC.... what's hard to understand about that? Tower / Laptop / Handheld / Console are all different PC labels of how they are setup, that is all.

Totally depends on the game.

For example Half-Life 2 plays horrible on the Xbox, so I'd still consider it an exclusive.

However, the same goes vice versa Street Fighter Alpha doesn't play good on the PC so I'd still consider it an arcade exclusive. 

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[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="snyper1982"]I give you This . Just look at all thos incompatible games. Don't make me laugh.mismajor99

Who cares? How many people are honestly going to use this to play games on a MAC? In order to really play PC games, you need windows. Get out of here. LOL. You act like playing 2% f the games makes this a viable alternative to windows. LOL.

Oh yeah, Steam games aren't Windows only anyways. There a lot of them availible on Linux.

You can play all games on linux as well, not with the same performance, but with Cedega for instance it's very easy. While linux isn't as popular here in the States, it's much more popular in Europe, where PC gaming is much bigger. I have two linux boxes that I use to play RTS and less hardware intensive games, than let's say your average FPS. Still, all OS's aside, MS doesn't see a penny on any PC game sold unless it's developed under the Microsoft Games Studio, which is a minority of games on the PC. You honestly can't say that PC Gaming = Microsoft, as PC games are independent in nature.

Accept that you pretty much need to have a PC running windows to really play any PC games. I understand your pont, but you also must understand mine. Do you honestly think millions, hell even hundreds of thousands of people are running out buying PC games made for windows, and running  them on a different OS? Honestly?

I think that people are too literally interpreting the term exclusive. If a game is a console exclusive, does it matter that it's also coming to the PC? PC sales pale in comparison to console sales, aside from the WOW phenomenon. If a game is coming to only one console it's a console exclusive. If it's multiplatform it's coming to more than one console. If developers want to throw the "holier than thou" PC gamers a bone, then that's great. And if a developer want's to create a game that's too graphic intensive, and expansive for a console, that's their perogative. We all know what the console wars are about; it's about selling games that are exclusive to their console, and the last time I checked, the PC is not a console. kevbo77

So FNR3 must be exclusive to the 360 because it sold so much better on the 360 than the PS3.

Do you have any idea how dumb that is?

[QUOTE="mismajor99"][QUOTE="snyper1982"]

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="snyper1982"]I give you This . Just look at all thos incompatible games. Don't make me laugh.snyper1982

Who cares? How many people are honestly going to use this to play games on a MAC? In order to really play PC games, you need windows. Get out of here. LOL. You act like playing 2% f the games makes this a viable alternative to windows. LOL.

Oh yeah, Steam games aren't Windows only anyways. There a lot of them availible on Linux.

You can play all games on linux as well, not with the same performance, but with Cedega for instance it's very easy. While linux isn't as popular here in the States, it's much more popular in Europe, where PC gaming is much bigger. I have two linux boxes that I use to play RTS and less hardware intensive games, than let's say your average FPS. Still, all OS's aside, MS doesn't see a penny on any PC game sold unless it's developed under the Microsoft Games Studio, which is a minority of games on the PC. You honestly can't say that PC Gaming = Microsoft, as PC games are independent in nature.

Accept that you pretty much need to have a PC running windows to really play any PC games. I understand your pont, but you also must understand mine. Do you honestly think millions, hell even hundreds of thousands of people are running out buying PC games made for windows, and running them on a different OS? Honestly?

Not at all, and the whole point is really that MS makes no money whatsoever on PC Games, unless they actually Produce them. After that fact, there are millions of Linux users worldwide, and they do play games, but that's really besides the fact. There are 200 million PC Gamers roughly estimated of some form or another, and I would say a large portion goes to a MS OS. Still doesn't heed microsoft the title of owning PC Gaming any more than Mac though, as they are not directly profiting off the platform.   

who cares about a pc port thats a year or two later

Casey made a thread a while ago that said if it's on the PC and on another console it is not Exclusive.Nintendo_Ownes7

Did he say it wasnt "console exclusive"?

[QUOTE="snyper1982"][QUOTE="mismajor99"][QUOTE="snyper1982"]

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="snyper1982"]I give you This . Just look at all thos incompatible games. Don't make me laugh.mismajor99

Who cares? How many people are honestly going to use this to play games on a MAC? In order to really play PC games, you need windows. Get out of here. LOL. You act like playing 2% f the games makes this a viable alternative to windows. LOL.

Oh yeah, Steam games aren't Windows only anyways. There a lot of them availible on Linux.

You can play all games on linux as well, not with the same performance, but with Cedega for instance it's very easy. While linux isn't as popular here in the States, it's much more popular in Europe, where PC gaming is much bigger. I have two linux boxes that I use to play RTS and less hardware intensive games, than let's say your average FPS. Still, all OS's aside, MS doesn't see a penny on any PC game sold unless it's developed under the Microsoft Games Studio, which is a minority of games on the PC. You honestly can't say that PC Gaming = Microsoft, as PC games are independent in nature.

Accept that you pretty much need to have a PC running windows to really play any PC games. I understand your pont, but you also must understand mine. Do you honestly think millions, hell even hundreds of thousands of people are running out buying PC games made for windows, and running them on a different OS? Honestly?

Not at all, and the whole point is really that MS makes no money whatsoever on PC Games, unless they actually Produce them. After that fact, there are millions of Linux users worldwide, and they do play games, but that's really besides the fact. There are 200 million PC Gamers roughly estimated of some form or another, and I would say a large portion goes to a MS OS. Still doesn't heed microsoft the title of owning PC Gaming any more than Mac though, as they are not directly profiting off the platform.

MS owns PC gaming just as much as Intel, AMD, ATI, Nvidia, Gigaybite, BFG, etc, etc own PC gaming. No single company owns it. Get over it. 

[QUOTE="septicvirus"]

who cares about a pc port thats a year or two later

 

PannicAtack

And HL2, Quake Wars, C&C3 etc etc. I guess these are all PC exclusives....... 

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="septicvirus"]

who cares about a pc port thats a year or two later

 

trix5817

And HL2, Quake Wars, C&C3 etc etc. I guess these are all PC exclusives....... 

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]Casey made a thread a while ago that said if it's on the PC and on another console it is not Exclusive.-Sora

Did he say it wasnt "console exclusive"?

[QUOTE="-Sora"]

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]Casey made a thread a while ago that said if it's on the PC and on another console it is not Exclusive.Nintendo_Ownes7

Did he say it wasnt "console exclusive"?

If you say that they are multiplatform then you must also say the plethora of games also availiable on Mobile phones are multiplatform. Technically it's true, but it just doesn't sound right and so people don't. The PC is exactly the same.TheWinds

If you say that they are multiplatform then you must also say the plethora of games also availiable on Mobile phones are multiplatform. Technically it's true, but it just doesn't sound right and so people don't. The PC is exactly the same.TheWinds

If you say that they are multiplatform then you must also say the plethora of games also availiable on Mobile phones are multiplatform. Technically it's true, but it just doesn't sound right and so people don't. The PC is exactly the same.TheWinds

That's totally different. Spore on a cell phone is TOTALLY different then Spore on a PC or console. PC's and consoles are much more comparable platforms. And afterall, this is SYSTEM WARS.....get over it.