If its on PC/360 is it exclusive?

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#51 II_Seraphim_II
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Absolutely! Its a Microsoft exclusive. Windows is a Microsoft product. So unless the game is released on PC for Linux and OSX as well as windows then its a Microsoft exclusive. Sorry fanboys thems the facts.

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So by your logic no console video games can ever be attributed to Microsoft, i mean its not like Microsoft makes TVs or monitors now do they? And you cant play your X360 without a TV/Monitor and you surely cant play your PC games without a PC...does MS make PCs? no. So its confirmed, MS doesnt have any exclusive games!
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#52 aflakian
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If a game is on more than one system (PC/X360 or PC/PS3) its no longer exclusive because one no longer has to buy an X360 or a PS3 to play it. As long as there is an option to play that particular game on another platform, the "exclusive-power" of the game is lost. Sure some people may still buy an X360 or PS3 for that particular game but a person with an awesome PC will be under no obligation to do so.II_Seraphim_II


As someone who owns a gaming rig, I completely agree with this statement.
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#53 dsmccracken
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If its on PC its not and exclusive. As the whether or not PC/X360 games and PC/PS3 games should be used in X360 vs PS3 debates, that all depends on the thread creator. And let me reiterate something I have said time and time again: The point of an exclusive is to have a game that is so iresistable that one is has no choice but to buy that particular gaming system to play it. If a game is on more than one system (PC/X360 or PC/PS3) its no longer exclusive because one no longer has to buy an X360 or a PS3 to play it. As long as there is an option to play that particular game on another platform, the "exclusive-power" of the game is lost. Sure some people may still buy an X360 or PS3 for that particular game but a person with an awesome PC will be under no obligation to do so. Ask yourself this: Some people bought an X360 awaiting the arrival of a GTA4. Does that make GTA4 an exclusive? The answer is no. Since GTA4 is available on 3 different systems, one has to conclude that there were other reasons the person bought it on the X360...maybe they liked the controller more or they heard the graphics were better or they always wanted to try out Halo3 so they decided to go for an X360 and kill 2 birds with 1 stone.II_Seraphim_II
What you say has some truth... but it is not the complete truth. It is only the truth for some people. For others who don't pc game, though they TECHNICALLY could, the fact that they choose to only game on consoles EFFECTIVELY negates the impact that a game being available on the PC will have on the console war, and have no doubt, those types of people exist... MANY, many of them.
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#54 Nugtoka
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[QUOTE="Nugtoka"]

Absolutely! Its a Microsoft exclusive. Windows is a Microsoft product. So unless the game is released on PC for Linux and OSX as well as windows then its a Microsoft exclusive. Sorry fanboys thems the facts.

II_Seraphim_II
So by your logic no console video games can ever be attributed to Microsoft, i mean its not like Microsoft makes TVs or monitors now do they? And you cant play your X360 without a TV/Monitor and you surely cant play your PC games without a PC...does MS make PCs? no. So its confirmed, MS doesnt have any exclusive games!

Does microsoft make all the parts that go into the 360? No. Is the 360 still there platform? Yes! Are the programmers coding for specific video cards? no. they work on a platform like Windows and more importantly Direct X which is cross platform for the 360 and PC So its easy to just compile from one to the other. Still All built on Microsoft platforms for people using Microsoft Os's can you play any of these games on the same PC running Linux No. Your argument is weak try again.
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#55 AdrianWerner
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Of course not. It's avaible on more than one platform, thus it's not exclusive. As simple as that. I don't see PS3 fanboys claiming Agency or DC Online to be PS3 exclusive after all

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#56 AdrianWerner
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Absolutely! Its a Microsoft exclusive. Windows is a Microsoft product. So unless the game is released on PC for Linux and OSX as well as windows then its a Microsoft exclusive. Sorry fanboys thems the facts.

Nugtoka
Nope. Even if we would accept this logic all it would do is create a "Microsoft exclusive" category. It's not the same thing as "exclusive". So even if you were right Alan Wake would be "Microsoft exclusive", not "exclusive"

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#57 polishkid99
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it's on another platform, it's obviously not exclusive, but it's not on the ps3.
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#58 mistervengeance
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techincally it's not exclusive.. but if you ignore the silly argument of exclusives, the 360 wins anyways.
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#59 Vandalvideo
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It is on multiple platforms. It is a multiplat. "PC" is not a Microsoft platform.
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#60 Captain__Tripps
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Of coarse it is not. No more exclusive than a PC/360/PS3 game in the eyes of a sheep. How about a game released for PS2/Xbox only last gen, was that an exclusive?
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360/pc games cant be played on ps3 therefore they count, look the same crowd that buy consoles aren't likely to be the same crowd with top end gaming pc's, this whole you cant count that game cus its on the pc as well is just lame fanboy stuff, fact is a very small minority of gamers have machines capable of playing a game like mass efffect to the quality you get on the 360, If everyone had pc's capable of playing these games then consoles wouldn't exist, so a 360/pc exclusive is certainly valid in a ps3vs 360 debate, ps3 fanboys cannot treat that game as if they can play it as well.
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360/pc games cant be played on ps3 therefore they count, look the same crowd that buy consoles aren't likely to be the same crowd with top end gaming pc's, this whole you cant count that game cus its on the pc as well is just lame fanboy stuff, fact is a very small minority of gamers have machines capable of playing a game like mass efffect to the quality you get on the 360, If everyone had pc's capable of playing these games then consoles wouldn't exist, so a 360/pc exclusive is certainly valid in a ps3vs 360 debate, ps3 fanboys cannot treat that game as if they can play it as well.sonny2dap
Small minority of PC users? Do you know how modest of a machine it takes to top a console? Even Crysis outsold Mass Effect...
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#63 opex07
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People call it console exclusive, not exclusive. Just like people call games console graphic King instead of graphic king.
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#64 navyguy21
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Regardless of if its exclusive or not, if you are buying a console (which is where the majority of gaming is done) then it IS a deciding factor on which one to get since its not available on one, and thats what matters really. Fanboys on gaming sites can fight about it all they want, but it matters in the real world.
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#65 Zhengi
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It's not exclusive and it would be silly to call it exclusive if the game is on the 360 and PC.
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#66 DarkGamer007
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I say it is exclusive....to Microsoft. See the Xbox 360 and Windows (which is required to play about 90% of the retail games on computers) are both owned by Microsoft so buying Windows is like buying a Microsoft platform, much like if you were to walk into a store and buy an Xbox 360. So yes in away it is technically exclusive to one companies platforms but not necessarily one platform.
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360/pc games cant be played on ps3 therefore they count, look the same crowd that buy consoles aren't likely to be the same crowd with top end gaming pc's, this whole you cant count that game cus its on the pc as well is just lame fanboy stuff, fact is a very small minority of gamers have machines capable of playing a game like mass efffect to the quality you get on the 360, If everyone had pc's capable of playing these games then consoles wouldn't exist, so a 360/pc exclusive is certainly valid in a ps3vs 360 debate, ps3 fanboys cannot treat that game as if they can play it as well.sonny2dap

Well said and a fact , cows like to hide behind the pc and act as if the games don't count. If they acknowledge the truth these games are not playable on PS3 and count in overall library discussions. This makes the PS3's library very subpar to the 360 and is why they hide behind the PC or only talk about "exclusives" when the fact remains ITS STILL ON THE 360 NOT THE PS3. This would work the otherway around for PS3/PC games but there aran't many and not the caliber of 360/pc games. And to the cows who say "oh I'll play the superior version on my gaming rig" who cares your the monority.(and these are usually the ones who like to make the 360 vs PS3 threads)

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#68 rolo107
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I say yes. Everyone knows the justifications for it, and I agree with them.
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#69 Ratfuzz
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Shouldn't "Microsoft Exclusive" be an official term?
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#70 xsubtownerx
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Nope. not exclusive, but it's still a burn on the PS3. And to a lesser extent, the Wii. But the Wii still sells so they don't care.
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#71 brokenps2
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I always thought microsoft were shooting themselves in the foot with "exclusive games"

It waters down the exclusivity on the xbox 360, and so the other consoles have more proper exclusives.

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#72 urdead18
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How is it exclusive to 1 platform when it's on 2 platforms?

Of course it isn't.

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#73 JPOBS
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yes.
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#74 Lonelynight
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Yes it is... to Microsoft :P.

Honnestly I don't care if a game is also on the PC, I still call it exclusive.

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#75 ActicEdge
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I can give you some elaborate explanation but rather than needlessly boring you, all that needs to be said is no. If its on more than one platform its not exclusive.
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#76 Lewisite
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Is it exclusive? No. Is it console exclusive? Yes. As much as some on here try to act like console exclusive games do not matter they are just wrong. When the average person goes into a store to buy a console he will look at price where the 360 wins. He will also look at game library and the 360 wins there also. Console exclusive games help make one game library better then the other. PS3 and the 360 are going against each other more then the other systems since the other 2 go for a different crowd. I am not saying the PC or Wii are bad in anyway but over all it is a different crowd then the PS3 and the 360. The 360 just has far more games then the PS3 and one of the reasons is the console exclusive games.rybe1025

I love your post dude, everytime I see the orc avatar I know an extreme amount of rampant unchecked Xbox fanboyism is about to follow.

Keep it up bro, some of us need a good laugh :lol:

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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]BEsides having to install games What differences does a PC have from a consoles? I mean we upgrade with new consoles after so many years for better graphics , they just manually do the work themselvesbladeeagle

PS3 installs games but that's still a console.

PC is not a console because a console is a machine designed for consumers to buy and use solely for playing video games.

A PC is not a console because you can do so much more on than consoles. Another reason is that PC isn't controlled by anyone like how the 360 is controlled by Microsoft or Sony to PS3. There is no owner of the PC so any developer can make games on it free of charge.

Tell that to all the people who bought a Ps3 for blue Ray

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#78 foxhound_fox
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Microsoft doesn't benefit from people playing games on a PC running Linux. They make 360 hardware... nVidia, ATI, AMD and Intel make PC hardware.

The only way you can distinguish between games that aren't "exclusive" are games like Assassin's Creed for the consoles and handhelds. The only thing they actually share is a name, neither are directly related to each other.

Alan Wake is not exclusive. Nor is many other PC games that are also on 360. Saying they are is only a means of devaluing the PC as a legitimate gaming platform.
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#79 agentfred
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Is it exclusive? Exclusive for what? Would it be exclusive for both the 360 and the PC? Wait, that doesn't make any sense, nor does this entire argument.
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#80 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]Well I see people throwing in Alan wake as a 360 exclusive next year, sorry but to me it's not, because IT IS on another platform and that is the PC but I wanna ask system wars if a game comes out on 360 as well as PC is it exclusive?

Both editions runs on Microsoft's DirectX based platforms.
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#81 ronvalencia
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Microsoft doesn't benefit from people playing games on a PC running Linux. They make 360 hardware... nVidia, ATI, AMD and Intel make PC hardware.

The only way you can distinguish between games that aren't "exclusive" are games like Assassin's Creed for the consoles and handhelds. The only thing they actually share is a name, neither are directly related to each other.

Alan Wake is not exclusive. Nor is many other PC games that are also on 360. Saying they are is only a means of devaluing the PC as a legitimate gaming platform.
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#82 Captain__Tripps
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]Well I see people throwing in Alan wake as a 360 exclusive next year, sorry but to me it's not, because IT IS on another platform and that is the PC but I wanna ask system wars if a game comes out on 360 as well as PC is it exclusive?

Both editions runs on Microsoft's DirectX based platforms.

Ok, say its "DirectX exclusive" or something other stupid thing. But its not xbox exclusive. Alan Wake being 360 exclusive is about as dumb as saying Left 4 Dead is PC exclusive.
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#83 iam2green
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i think so because it still microsoft in the name of the game.
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#84 foxhound_fox
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AMD/ATI designs/supports the Xenos GPU and obtains licence fees from Microsoft. ronvalencia

But Microsoft doesn't benefit from people buying an ATI HD 4870 GPU for their computer... nor an AMD Athalon CPU. That's the point. If MS controlled the PC platform and benefited directly from games being on PC, then it could be called "exclusive." But even now, most games can even run on Linux, not even needing Windows anymore.
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#85 ronvalencia
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It is on multiple platforms. It is a multiplat. "PC" is not a Microsoft platform.Vandalvideo
Funny, my laptop has a Microsoft logo on it.
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#86 HAZE-Unit
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What the heck? :lol: are you serious?

See what you wrote there, you asked, if its "ON" 360 "AND" PC, is it exclusive? you had your answer in your question.

A big NO.

You shouldn't even asked because you knew it yourself, only lemmings consider these shared titles as exclusives when they compare it with PS3 exclusives or Wii exclusives but in reality, in real life, I can find the same game on PC and 360.

Ask yourself this question, why don't PC fanboys say the same thing about Alan Wake for example?

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]It is on multiple platforms. It is a multiplat. "PC" is not a Microsoft platform.ronvalencia
Funny, my laptop has a Microsoft logo on it.

That's probably because your laptop is running a Windows OS. Microsoft didn't make that laptop and Windows is not necessary for that laptop to run.

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#88 Captain__Tripps
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What the heck? :lol: are you serious?

See what you wrote there, you asked, if its "ON" 360 "AND" PC, is it exclusive? you had your answer in your question.

A big NO.

You shouldn't even asked because you knew it yourself, only lemmings consider these shared titles as exclusives when they compare it with PS3 exclusives or Wii exclusives but in reality, in real life, I can find the same game on PC and 360.

Ask yourself this question, why don't PC fanboys say the same thing about Alan Wake for example?

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Alan Wake will more likely be more a PC game than 360 game considering its coming from Remedy, but its so rediculous only lemmings say things like this.
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#89 haris12121212
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I like the term console exclusive. After all you only get to play it on the 360 and not on the PS3 and Wii.
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#90 foxhound_fox
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Funny, my laptop has a Microsoft logo on it. ronvalencia

I never knew Microsoft got into the laptop hardware manufacturing business.
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#91 foxhound_fox
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I like the term console exclusive. After all you only get to play it on the 360 and not on the PS3 and Wii.haris12121212

And yet anyone with a PC can play the game too. The PC is just as much a gaming platform as a console, albeit a different one... it still plays mostly all the same games, plus it has its own exclusives.

The term "console exclusive" is just a way for consolites to devalue the PC as a gaming platform.
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#92 Captain__Tripps
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[QUOTE="haris12121212"]I like the term console exclusive. After all you only get to play it on the 360 and not on the PS3 and Wii.foxhound_fox

And yet anyone with a PC can play the game too. The PC is just as much a gaming platform as a console, albeit a different one... it still plays mostly all the same games, plus it has its own exclusives.

The term "console exclusive" is just a way for consolites to devalue the PC as a gaming platform.

Well thats right, and id like to know why no PC/360 game is ever PC exclusive, its always xbox exclusive...

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#93 Lionheart08
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What the heck? :lol: are you serious?

See what you wrote there, you asked, if its "ON" 360 "AND" PC, is it exclusive? you had your answer in your question.

A big NO.

You shouldn't even asked because you knew it yourself, only lemmings consider these shared titles as exclusives when they compare it with PS3 exclusives or Wii exclusives but in reality, in real life, I can find the same game on PC and 360.

Ask yourself this question, why don't PC fanboys say the same thing about Alan Wake for example?

HAZE-Unit

Nice point there. :P

But seriously, all people have to do is include multiplats in their arguements in there wouldn't be this problem. Fanboys just got this fixation that there has to be an "e" at the ends of all there A's.

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#94 locopatho
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No it isn't exclusive. But if you want to compare 2 platforms, ie Is PS3 or 360 better?, then games like Mass Effect count, as they are on 360 but not PS3.
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#95 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]AMD/ATI designs/supports the Xenos GPU and obtains licence fees from Microsoft. foxhound_fox

But Microsoft doesn't benefit from people buying an ATI HD 4870 GPU for their computer... nor an AMD Athalon CPU. That's the point. If MS controlled the PC platform and benefited directly from games being on PC, then it could be called "exclusive." But even now, most games can even run on Linux, not even needing Windows anymore.

Customers purchasing ATI's earlier wintel GPUs helped with development of Xenos and ultimately ATI's R600. X86/X64 PC and Microsoft has a symbiosis relationship. There is one word to remember in the PC industry i.e. "Wintel". AMD64's development has the support of Microsoft i.e. AMD's "SledgeHammer" (codename for K8 processors) and Microsoft Windows "Anvil" ( codename for Windows X64 edition). Note the relationship between a hammer and an anvil. This is the X86-to-X64 path. One the reasons why PowerPC 620 died are due to Microsoft's lack of support for X86-to-POWER64 path.
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#96 spike6566
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NOPE, just like GEOW1 is not a exclusive to the 360 :)
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#97 foxhound_fox
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Customers purchasing ATI's earlier wintel GPUs helped with development of Xenos and ultimately ATI's R600. X86/X64 PC and Microsoft has a symbiosis relationship. There is one word to remember in the PC industry i.e. "Wintel". AMD64's development has the support of Microsoft i.e. AMD's "SledgeHammer" (codename for K8 processors) and Microsoft Windows "Anvil" ( codename for Windows X64 edition). Note the relationship between a hammer and an anvil. This is the X86-to-X64 path. One the reasons why PowerPC 620 died are due to Microsoft's lack of support for X86-to-POWER64 path. ronvalencia

Still doesn't make the game exclusive in any sense of the word. Microsoft does not directly benefit from the sale of a game published by EA, Activision, etc. If they did, you could then be silly and call it a "Microsoft exclusive" but then it still is on two perfectly legitimate gaming platforms, one of which Microsoft doesn't control.
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#98 EVOLV3
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No :| The meaning of exclusive is that its only available on 1 platform. A game on the 360/PC is multiplatform.
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#99 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]Funny, my laptop has a Microsoft logo on it. foxhound_fox

I never knew Microsoft got into the laptop hardware manufacturing business.

Erm, "Designed for MS Windows". For example, Microsoft defined a high performance timer on Vista enabled PCs. Microsoft also defines ACPI and power management tables. Lintel has to emulate Windows ACPI calls or they'll (Linux) gets broken ACPI tables. The "designed for MS Windows" logo is not just for show.
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#100 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="haris12121212"]I like the term console exclusive. After all you only get to play it on the 360 and not on the PS3 and Wii.foxhound_fox

And yet anyone with a PC can play the game too. The PC is just as much a gaming platform as a console, albeit a different one... it still plays mostly all the same games, plus it has its own exclusives.

The term "console exclusive" is just a way for consolites to devalue the PC as a gaming platform.

I tried saying that everyone thought i was nuts