If SuperBrawl and SuperMario galaxy were on 360 or PS3 they wouldnt be AAA.

[QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="Coredog777"]jeez i didnt mean to start a firestorm, i guess it all comes down to me not being satisfied with the graphics on the wii. I have both games because of my little cousin, but I just dont think they are so great like everyone makes them out to be. Galaxy won GOTY, and I respect that, but for me GALAXY OR BIOSHOCK, im taking Bioshock 10x's over.highlander0659

the fact that SMG won GOTY even though it had worse graphics technically than most 360 games just means how much quality it is. this would seem to indicate that it would get an AAA on any console since it did beat out those AAA's on other consoles. regardless of your own opinion.

GOTY differs depending on where you're looking. I've seen Call of Duty 4 win game of the year in far more places then SMG. The places where SMG won game of the year were obviously making allowances for the Wii's lackkuster hardware and gimmicky controls.

obviously huh? did you actually read or watch what they their explanations of why they picked it? I don't think you did.

[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Coredog777"][QUOTE="Iyethar"][QUOTE="Coredog777"]...bogged down because of lack of next gen graphics...highlander0659

Uhh... if they were on PS3 or 360 the graphics would be better...

thats my point...

Do you think Halo 3 wouldn't have scored as high if it was on the Wii? I feel that a lot of voters give the 360 and PS3 a handicap for their subpar controls in most genre.

There, do you see how rediculous that sounds?

No actaully Halo 3 would have scored the same on the Wii because it's score would be altered to make allowances for the Wii's gimped hardware. Come to think of it they probably make allowances for the Wii's gimmickie controls as well.

Wii's superior FPS controls you mean?

[QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="Coredog777"]jeez i didnt mean to start a firestorm, i guess it all comes down to me not being satisfied with the graphics on the wii. I have both games because of my little cousin, but I just dont think they are so great like everyone makes them out to be. Galaxy won GOTY, and I respect that, but for me GALAXY OR BIOSHOCK, im taking Bioshock 10x's over.highlander0659

the fact that SMG won GOTY even though it had worse graphics technically than most 360 games just means how much quality it is. this would seem to indicate that it would get an AAA on any console since it did beat out those AAA's on other consoles. regardless of your own opinion.

GOTY differs depending on where you're looking. I've seen Call of Duty 4 win game of the year in far more places then SMG. The places where SMG won game of the year were obviously making allowances for the Wii's lackkuster hardware and gimmicky controls.

You mean like GameTrailers, IGN, GameSpot, and EDGE?

No game deserves GotY LESS than COD4. If you were going to mention a game that can compete with SMG for game of the year, at least mention Portal, Bioshock, or Crysis. Not COD4.

[QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="Coredog777"]jeez i didnt mean to start a firestorm, i guess it all comes down to me not being satisfied with the graphics on the wii. I have both games because of my little cousin, but I just dont think they are so great like everyone makes them out to be. Galaxy won GOTY, and I respect that, but for me GALAXY OR BIOSHOCK, im taking Bioshock 10x's over.highlander0659

the fact that SMG won GOTY even though it had worse graphics technically than most 360 games just means how much quality it is. this would seem to indicate that it would get an AAA on any console since it did beat out those AAA's on other consoles. regardless of your own opinion.

GOTY differs depending on where you're looking. I've seen Call of Duty 4 win game of the year in far more places then SMG. The places where SMG won game of the year were obviously making allowances for the Wii's lackkuster hardware and gimmicky controls.

I agree with you, I just cant get into Wii games, and I HAVE TRIED believe me.

[QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="Coredog777"]jeez i didnt mean to start a firestorm, i guess it all comes down to me not being satisfied with the graphics on the wii. I have both games because of my little cousin, but I just dont think they are so great like everyone makes them out to be. Galaxy won GOTY, and I respect that, but for me GALAXY OR BIOSHOCK, im taking Bioshock 10x's over.highlander0659

the fact that SMG won GOTY even though it had worse graphics technically than most 360 games just means how much quality it is. this would seem to indicate that it would get an AAA on any console since it did beat out those AAA's on other consoles. regardless of your own opinion.

GOTY differs depending on where you're looking. I've seen Call of Duty 4 win game of the year in far more places then SMG. The places where SMG won game of the year were obviously making allowances for the Wii's lackkuster hardware and gimmicky controls.

THrough out the year Bioshock and Galaxy out paced COD 4 for GOTY.

And no SMG won straight up because it can not only run with those HD games, but it is superior in many other ways. To many critics and gamers it was a more fun and polished game.

I somewhat agree.

I know for sure if SSBB was on PS3 or 360, the score would get trashed for how tedius Subpar, opps I mean Subspace Emissary is.

Personally I wish Nintendo hadn't thrown together Subpace.. I'm really dissapointed.

But hey, even though Nintendo WFC and friend codes suck, atleast nearly all the online matches I play are pretty much lag free. I'm defiantly happy about that.

[QUOTE="Iyethar"]

[QUOTE="Coredog777"]...bogged down because of lack of next gen graphics...Coredog777

Uhh... if they were on PS3 or 360 the graphics would be better...

thats my point...

[QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="Coredog777"]jeez i didnt mean to start a firestorm, i guess it all comes down to me not being satisfied with the graphics on the wii. I have both games because of my little cousin, but I just dont think they are so great like everyone makes them out to be. Galaxy won GOTY, and I respect that, but for me GALAXY OR BIOSHOCK, im taking Bioshock 10x's over.jg4xchamp

the fact that SMG won GOTY even though it had worse graphics technically than most 360 games just means how much quality it is. this would seem to indicate that it would get an AAA on any console since it did beat out those AAA's on other consoles. regardless of your own opinion.

GOTY differs depending on where you're looking. I've seen Call of Duty 4 win game of the year in far more places then SMG. The places where SMG won game of the year were obviously making allowances for the Wii's lackkuster hardware and gimmicky controls.

THrough out the year Bioshock and Galaxy out paced COD 4 for GOTY.

And no SMG won straight up because it can not only run with those HD games, but it is superior in many other ways. To many critics and gamers it was a more fun and polished game.

If that guy is going to say Gamespot isn't a respectable place.. then Bioshock should lose Gameinformer.. that magazine is horrid when it comes to reviews.

They aren't giving the Wii a handicap, they're rating the games graphically in regards to what the system is capable of.Tylendal

If galaxy wasn't that great, then how did it win GoTY over all the other gams on the ps3 and 360?

And you have to prove the claim for galaxy and brawl. No proof, no arguement.

I somewhat agree.

I know for sure if SSBB was on PS3 or 360, the score would get trashed for how tedius Subpar, opps I mean Subspace Emissary is.

Personally I wish Nintendo hadn't thrown together Subpace.. I'm really dissapointed.

But hey, even though Nintendo WFC and friend codes suck, atleast nearly all the online matches I play are pretty much lag free. I'm defiantly happy about that.

OmegaOrtega

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="Coredog777"]jeez i didnt mean to start a firestorm, i guess it all comes down to me not being satisfied with the graphics on the wii. I have both games because of my little cousin, but I just dont think they are so great like everyone makes them out to be. Galaxy won GOTY, and I respect that, but for me GALAXY OR BIOSHOCK, im taking Bioshock 10x's over.dotWithShoes

the fact that SMG won GOTY even though it had worse graphics technically than most 360 games just means how much quality it is. this would seem to indicate that it would get an AAA on any console since it did beat out those AAA's on other consoles. regardless of your own opinion.

GOTY differs depending on where you're looking. I've seen Call of Duty 4 win game of the year in far more places then SMG. The places where SMG won game of the year were obviously making allowances for the Wii's lackkuster hardware and gimmicky controls.

THrough out the year Bioshock and Galaxy out paced COD 4 for GOTY.

And no SMG won straight up because it can not only run with those HD games, but it is superior in many other ways. To many critics and gamers it was a more fun and polished game.

If that guy is going to say Gamespot isn't a respectable place.. then Bioshock should lose Gameinformer.. that magazine is horrid when it comes to reviews.

I somewhat agree.

I know for sure if SSBB was on PS3 or 360, the score would get trashed for how tedius Subpar, opps I mean Subspace Emissary is.

Personally I wish Nintendo hadn't thrown together Subpace.. I'm really dissapointed.

But hey, even though Nintendo WFC and friend codes suck, atleast nearly all the online matches I play are pretty much lag free. I'm defiantly happy about that.

OmegaOrtega

Oh wow I was just about to say that in all honesty 9.5 is a bit much for this game. Sure all the stuff is nice but it's singleplayer is terrible. I'd give it 9 or 8.5, I can't really see why this game is getting so high with such a supbar singleplayer.

If galaxy wasn't that great, then how did it win GoTY over all the other gams on the ps3 and 360?

And you have to prove the claim for galaxy and brawl. No proof, no arguement.

BuryMe

This year was no different, but instead of one title deserving it more, multiple titles deserved it. Personally, Galaxy winning was not a surprise to me, just like how Gears of War was not a surprise. I was secretly hoping they wouldn't win, that the better games would triump over them - but nope, I was wrong. Unfortuately, it's just sad that Wii fans bring up "GoTY" when they forget that it barely got the title and hardly deserved it against games such World in Conflict, Call of Duty 4, Bioshiock and, arguably, Halo 3. Just my view on it all.

[QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

SMG GOTY. GOTY compares games across platforms regardless of score.

SMG won in most respected sites.

/thread

Ontain

Actaully, Call of Duty 4 won on most respectable websites. So you post fails... much like the Wii

IGN, GS, GT seem like the big ones to me. what sites are you talking about?

Gamespy, G4, Kotaku, Voodoo, UGO, EGM, GC, and countless other chose games other than SMG. That's who I'm talking about.

[QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="Coredog777"]jeez i didnt mean to start a firestorm, i guess it all comes down to me not being satisfied with the graphics on the wii. I have both games because of my little cousin, but I just dont think they are so great like everyone makes them out to be. Galaxy won GOTY, and I respect that, but for me GALAXY OR BIOSHOCK, im taking Bioshock 10x's over.Ontain

the fact that SMG won GOTY even though it had worse graphics technically than most 360 games just means how much quality it is. this would seem to indicate that it would get an AAA on any console since it did beat out those AAA's on other consoles. regardless of your own opinion.

GOTY differs depending on where you're looking. I've seen Call of Duty 4 win game of the year in far more places then SMG. The places where SMG won game of the year were obviously making allowances for the Wii's lackkuster hardware and gimmicky controls.

obviously huh? did you actually read or watch what they their explanations of why they picked it? I don't think you did.

Of course I did. However, I doubt that they'd mention too many shortcomings of a game they are desperately trying to sell as game of the year(wrongfully push as so I might add).

[QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Coredog777"][QUOTE="Iyethar"][QUOTE="Coredog777"]...bogged down because of lack of next gen graphics...Son_of_Some

Uhh... if they were on PS3 or 360 the graphics would be better...

thats my point...

Do you think Halo 3 wouldn't have scored as high if it was on the Wii? I feel that a lot of voters give the 360 and PS3 a handicap for their subpar controls in most genre.

There, do you see how rediculous that sounds?

No actaully Halo 3 would have scored the same on the Wii because it's score would be altered to make allowances for the Wii's gimped hardware. Come to think of it they probably make allowances for the Wii's gimmickie controls as well.

Wii's superior FPS controls you mean?

No, inferior gimmicky controls overall is what I was driving at.

[QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="Coredog777"]jeez i didnt mean to start a firestorm, i guess it all comes down to me not being satisfied with the graphics on the wii. I have both games because of my little cousin, but I just dont think they are so great like everyone makes them out to be. Galaxy won GOTY, and I respect that, but for me GALAXY OR BIOSHOCK, im taking Bioshock 10x's over.jg4xchamp

the fact that SMG won GOTY even though it had worse graphics technically than most 360 games just means how much quality it is. this would seem to indicate that it would get an AAA on any console since it did beat out those AAA's on other consoles. regardless of your own opinion.

GOTY differs depending on where you're looking. I've seen Call of Duty 4 win game of the year in far more places then SMG. The places where SMG won game of the year were obviously making allowances for the Wii's lackkuster hardware and gimmicky controls.

THrough out the year Bioshock and Galaxy out paced COD 4 for GOTY.

And no SMG won straight up because it can not only run with those HD games, but it is superior in many other ways. To many critics and gamers it was a more fun and polished game.

In any case the majority of venues chose something other than SMG was my main point. And of course the ones that chose that ugly game obviously made allowances. I wonder how SMG was allowed to exist with it's gimmicky controls and physics. You'd think that physics would be important in a game like that.

you're right TC.

they'd be SSS :D

[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

SMG GOTY. GOTY compares games across platforms regardless of score.

SMG won in most respected sites.

/thread

highlander0659

Actaully, Call of Duty 4 won on most respectable websites. So you post fails... much like the Wii

IGN, GS, GT seem like the big ones to me. what sites are you talking about?

Gamespy, G4, Kotaku, Voodoo, UGO, EGM, GC, and countless other chose games other than SMG. That's who I'm talking about.

[QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="Coredog777"]jeez i didnt mean to start a firestorm, i guess it all comes down to me not being satisfied with the graphics on the wii. I have both games because of my little cousin, but I just dont think they are so great like everyone makes them out to be. Galaxy won GOTY, and I respect that, but for me GALAXY OR BIOSHOCK, im taking Bioshock 10x's over.mjarantilla

the fact that SMG won GOTY even though it had worse graphics technically than most 360 games just means how much quality it is. this would seem to indicate that it would get an AAA on any console since it did beat out those AAA's on other consoles. regardless of your own opinion.

GOTY differs depending on where you're looking. I've seen Call of Duty 4 win game of the year in far more places then SMG. The places where SMG won game of the year were obviously making allowances for the Wii's lackkuster hardware and gimmicky controls.

You mean like GameTrailers, IGN, GameSpot, and EDGE?

No game deserves GotY LESS than COD4. If you were going to mention a game that can compete with SMG for game of the year, at least mention Portal, Bioshock, or Crysis. Not COD4.

The game that clearly deserved it the least is SMG. But once again people make stupid allowances for that ugly game.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="Coredog777"]jeez i didnt mean to start a firestorm, i guess it all comes down to me not being satisfied with the graphics on the wii. I have both games because of my little cousin, but I just dont think they are so great like everyone makes them out to be. Galaxy won GOTY, and I respect that, but for me GALAXY OR BIOSHOCK, im taking Bioshock 10x's over.highlander0659

the fact that SMG won GOTY even though it had worse graphics technically than most 360 games just means how much quality it is. this would seem to indicate that it would get an AAA on any console since it did beat out those AAA's on other consoles. regardless of your own opinion.

GOTY differs depending on where you're looking. I've seen Call of Duty 4 win game of the year in far more places then SMG. The places where SMG won game of the year were obviously making allowances for the Wii's lackkuster hardware and gimmicky controls.

THrough out the year Bioshock and Galaxy out paced COD 4 for GOTY.

And no SMG won straight up because it can not only run with those HD games, but it is superior in many other ways. To many critics and gamers it was a more fun and polished game.

In any case the majority of venues chose something other than SMG was my main point. And of course the ones that chose that ugly game obviously made allowances. I wonder how SMG was allowed to exist with it's gimmicky controls and physics. You'd think that physics would be important in a game like that.

[QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

SMG GOTY. GOTY compares games across platforms regardless of score.

SMG won in most respected sites.

/thread

jg4xchamp

Actaully, Call of Duty 4 won on most respectable websites. So you post fails... much like the Wii

IGN, GS, GT seem like the big ones to me. what sites are you talking about?

Gamespy, G4, Kotaku, Voodoo, UGO, EGM, GC, and countless other chose games other than SMG. That's who I'm talking about.

It's like SMG was running in the special olympics. They of course gave the handicapped game allowances to boost it up from being subpar(which it is the definition of) to be a great game(which is most definitely isn't). That's the only reason why it won anything at all. That's all I'm sayin'.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="Coredog777"]jeez i didnt mean to start a firestorm, i guess it all comes down to me not being satisfied with the graphics on the wii. I have both games because of my little cousin, but I just dont think they are so great like everyone makes them out to be. Galaxy won GOTY, and I respect that, but for me GALAXY OR BIOSHOCK, im taking Bioshock 10x's over.highlander0659

the fact that SMG won GOTY even though it had worse graphics technically than most 360 games just means how much quality it is. this would seem to indicate that it would get an AAA on any console since it did beat out those AAA's on other consoles. regardless of your own opinion.

GOTY differs depending on where you're looking. I've seen Call of Duty 4 win game of the year in far more places then SMG. The places where SMG won game of the year were obviously making allowances for the Wii's lackkuster hardware and gimmicky controls.

You mean like GameTrailers, IGN, GameSpot, and EDGE?

No game deserves GotY LESS than COD4. If you were going to mention a game that can compete with SMG for game of the year, at least mention Portal, Bioshock, or Crysis. Not COD4.

The game that clearly deserved it the least is SMG. But once again people make stupid allowances for that ugly game.

LOL, no. It deserved it the MOST.

[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Coredog777"][QUOTE="Iyethar"][QUOTE="Coredog777"]...bogged down because of lack of next gen graphics...Coredog777

Uhh... if they were on PS3 or 360 the graphics would be better...

thats my point...

Do you think Halo 3 wouldn't have scored as high if it was on the Wii? I feel that a lot of voters give the 360 and PS3 a handicap for their subpar controls in most genre.

There, do you see how rediculous that sounds?

Um if Halo 3 came out on the wii it would be AAAA. Also, please try and be respectful.

How can anyway be respectful towards you after you made numerous asinine comments such as the one above? You have a very apparent bias against the Wii and cannot be taken seriously. Don't ask for respect. Earn it.

[QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

SMG GOTY. GOTY compares games across platforms regardless of score.

SMG won in most respected sites.

/thread

jg4xchamp

Actaully, Call of Duty 4 won on most respectable websites. So you post fails... much like the Wii

IGN, GS, GT seem like the big ones to me. what sites are you talking about?

Gamespy, G4, Kotaku, Voodoo, UGO, EGM, GC, and countless other chose games other than SMG. That's who I'm talking about.

The AIAS isn't the biggest. The Game Developer's Choice Awards are, and that went to BioShock.

[QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="Coredog777"]jeez i didnt mean to start a firestorm, i guess it all comes down to me not being satisfied with the graphics on the wii. I have both games because of my little cousin, but I just dont think they are so great like everyone makes them out to be. Galaxy won GOTY, and I respect that, but for me GALAXY OR BIOSHOCK, im taking Bioshock 10x's over.jg4xchamp

the fact that SMG won GOTY even though it had worse graphics technically than most 360 games just means how much quality it is. this would seem to indicate that it would get an AAA on any console since it did beat out those AAA's on other consoles. regardless of your own opinion.

GOTY differs depending on where you're looking. I've seen Call of Duty 4 win game of the year in far more places then SMG. The places where SMG won game of the year were obviously making allowances for the Wii's lackkuster hardware and gimmicky controls.

THrough out the year Bioshock and Galaxy out paced COD 4 for GOTY.

And no SMG won straight up because it can not only run with those HD games, but it is superior in many other ways. To many critics and gamers it was a more fun and polished game.

In any case the majority of venues chose something other than SMG was my main point. And of course the ones that chose that ugly game obviously made allowances. I wonder how SMG was allowed to exist with it's gimmicky controls and physics. You'd think that physics would be important in a game like that.

I honestly named COD4 off the top of my head because I guessed that it might have beaten SMG but the fact that Bioshock did the job is just fine with me because SMG doesn't deserve any sort of honors to start with.

You're the one making excuses now. Phyiscs enhance the experience. Since those suck in SMG it makes the experience that much worse.

SMG was ridiculously easy. What are you talking about? Unless you're gimped like that game is you shouldn't have any difficulty with it what so ever. Or you like unchallenging easy games that you can breeze through.

Apparently most critics agreed that Bioshock was the most fun game of 2007

The game has a great review average because it was gimped to such an overwhelming extent that they needed to make certain allowances for it.

If you call that jagged mess polished then you might be legally blind my friend.

The level designer should feel ashamed after SMG. The game was repetitive and just dead boring.

If you don't think that SMG is the definition of a subpar game then you're clearly the bigger fanboy here.

[QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="Coredog777"]jeez i didnt mean to start a firestorm, i guess it all comes down to me not being satisfied with the graphics on the wii. I have both games because of my little cousin, but I just dont think they are so great like everyone makes them out to be. Galaxy won GOTY, and I respect that, but for me GALAXY OR BIOSHOCK, im taking Bioshock 10x's over.mjarantilla

the fact that SMG won GOTY even though it had worse graphics technically than most 360 games just means how much quality it is. this would seem to indicate that it would get an AAA on any console since it did beat out those AAA's on other consoles. regardless of your own opinion.

GOTY differs depending on where you're looking. I've seen Call of Duty 4 win game of the year in far more places then SMG. The places where SMG won game of the year were obviously making allowances for the Wii's lackkuster hardware and gimmicky controls.

You mean like GameTrailers, IGN, GameSpot, and EDGE?

No game deserves GotY LESS than COD4. If you were going to mention a game that can compete with SMG for game of the year, at least mention Portal, Bioshock, or Crysis. Not COD4.

The game that clearly deserved it the least is SMG. But once again people make stupid allowances for that ugly game.

LOL, no. It deserved it the MOST.

I like your sarcasm.

teh critics disagree with you TC!

(b>_>)b

teh critics disagree with you TC!

(b>_>)b

Sonick54

Apparently most agree with him since Bioshock won GOTY in most places.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="Coredog777"]jeez i didnt mean to start a firestorm, i guess it all comes down to me not being satisfied with the graphics on the wii. I have both games because of my little cousin, but I just dont think they are so great like everyone makes them out to be. Galaxy won GOTY, and I respect that, but for me GALAXY OR BIOSHOCK, im taking Bioshock 10x's over.highlander0659

the fact that SMG won GOTY even though it had worse graphics technically than most 360 games just means how much quality it is. this would seem to indicate that it would get an AAA on any console since it did beat out those AAA's on other consoles. regardless of your own opinion.

GOTY differs depending on where you're looking. I've seen Call of Duty 4 win game of the year in far more places then SMG. The places where SMG won game of the year were obviously making allowances for the Wii's lackkuster hardware and gimmicky controls.

You mean like GameTrailers, IGN, GameSpot, and EDGE?

No game deserves GotY LESS than COD4. If you were going to mention a game that can compete with SMG for game of the year, at least mention Portal, Bioshock, or Crysis. Not COD4.

The game that clearly deserved it the least is SMG. But once again people make stupid allowances for that ugly game.

LOL, no. It deserved it the MOST.

I like your sarcasm.

It's not sarcasm, it's the truth. SMG's won GOTY from most of the major sites, and BioShock won most of the rest. COD4 mainly won GOTY from outlets that are hardly considered to be "reputable." G4, Spike, GameSpy, etc. SMG wrapped up most of the major media outlets: GameSpot, IGN, EDGE, GameTrailers, etc.

[QUOTE="Sonick54"]

teh critics disagree with you TC!

(b>_>)b

highlander0659

Apparently most agree with him since Bioshock won GOTY in most places.

what does that mean for galaxy IYO?

[QUOTE="Sonick54"]

teh critics disagree with you TC!

(b>_>)b

highlander0659

Apparently most agree with him since Bioshock won GOTY in most places.

TC wasn't talking about GOTY, he was talking about AAA. Most critics have said that Super Mario Galaxy would be a AAA game no matter what platform it was on and no matter what character it used.

[QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Sonick54"]

teh critics disagree with you TC!

(b>_>)b

Sonick54

Apparently most agree with him since Bioshock won GOTY in most places.

what does that mean for galaxy IYO?

Don't ask him for his opinion. He doesn't have one. He only has prejudice.

No, only difference would be graphics.EuroMafia

If so then forget I even asked the question as you would be in some very, very serious denial though I'm seeing allot of that in this thread and to be fair, in most threads in this forum. :?

[QUOTE="Sonick54"]

teh critics disagree with you TC!

(b>_>)b

highlander0659

Apparently most agree with him since Bioshock won GOTY in most places.

...Except for IGN and GameSpot, which are the two top video game sites. :|

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="Coredog777"]jeez i didnt mean to start a firestorm, i guess it all comes down to me not being satisfied with the graphics on the wii. I have both games because of my little cousin, but I just dont think they are so great like everyone makes them out to be. Galaxy won GOTY, and I respect that, but for me GALAXY OR BIOSHOCK, im taking Bioshock 10x's over.highlander0659

the fact that SMG won GOTY even though it had worse graphics technically than most 360 games just means how much quality it is. this would seem to indicate that it would get an AAA on any console since it did beat out those AAA's on other consoles. regardless of your own opinion.

GOTY differs depending on where you're looking. I've seen Call of Duty 4 win game of the year in far more places then SMG. The places where SMG won game of the year were obviously making allowances for the Wii's lackkuster hardware and gimmicky controls.

THrough out the year Bioshock and Galaxy out paced COD 4 for GOTY.

And no SMG won straight up because it can not only run with those HD games, but it is superior in many other ways. To many critics and gamers it was a more fun and polished game.

In any case the majority of venues chose something other than SMG was my main point. And of course the ones that chose that ugly game obviously made allowances. I wonder how SMG was allowed to exist with it's gimmicky controls and physics. You'd think that physics would be important in a game like that.

I honestly named COD4 off the top of my head because I guessed that it might have beaten SMG but the fact that Bioshock did the job is just fine with me because SMG doesn't deserve any sort of honors to start with.

You're the one making excuses now. Phyiscs enhance the experience. Since those suck in SMG it makes the experience that much worse.

SMG was ridiculously easy. What are you talking about? Unless you're gimped like that game is you shouldn't have any difficulty with it what so ever. Or you like unchallenging easy games that you can breeze through.

Apparently most critics agreed that Bioshock was the most fun game of 2007

The game has a great review average because it was gimped to such an overwhelming extent that they needed to make certain allowances for it.

If you call that jagged mess polished then you might be legally blind my friend.

The level designer should feel ashamed after SMG. The game was repetitive and just dead boring.

If you don't think that SMG is the definition of a subpar game then you're clearly the bigger fanboy here.

[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]No, only difference would be graphics.SecretPolice

If so then forget I even asked the question as you would be in some very, very serious denial though I'm seeing allot of that in this thread and to be fair, in most threads in this forum. :?

GTA4 could actually be better on the Wii, since Godfather was better on the Wii, and Bully is better on the Wii. A GTA-type game could benefit greatly from the immersion provided by the motion controls.

BlackBond laughes at Highlanders pitiful damage control of Super Mario Galaxy.

• Because tons of GOTY's
• All AAA+ reviews
• Not one review uner 90%
• The #2 stop over at Gamerankings
• A 9.5 here on GS

[QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Sonick54"]

teh critics disagree with you TC!

(b>_>)b

princeofshapeir

Apparently most agree with him since Bioshock won GOTY in most places.

...Except for IGN and GameSpot, which are the two top video game sites. :|

And except for Edge and Gametrailers.

Thats just my opinion. Good games, but hardly great games IMHO. I believe alot of critics give a handicap to the wii for hardware shortcomings. My question is do you think it would uphold its score if these games came out on either PS3 or 360, or would they be bogged down because of lack of next gen graphics. This thread isnt intented to flame wii fans, but just was curious to ask my hypothetical question. Please discuss, and as always, I respect everyones opinions.Coredog777

yep, and Gears and Halo 3 wouldn't be AAA if they were released as a PC exclusive because of lackluster graphics. really, your argument holds no water.

I believe the Wii gets a pass on certain elements. Things the other two couldn't get away with. Bread_or_Decide

The Wii doesn't get any pass. If a certain quality about the Wii doesn't interfere with having an enjoyable game experience, then it's not an important quality.

[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="highlander0659"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

SMG GOTY. GOTY compares games across platforms regardless of score.

SMG won in most respected sites.

/thread

highlander0659

Actaully, Call of Duty 4 won on most respectable websites. So you post fails... much like the Wii

IGN, GS, GT seem like the big ones to me. what sites are you talking about?

Gamespy, G4, Kotaku, Voodoo, UGO, EGM, GC, and countless other chose games other than SMG. That's who I'm talking about.

Kotaku had a 3 way tie. and SMG was in there. COD4 wasn't. UGO had Bioshock & COD4 tie.

and non of the others are as respected as willing GS and IGN.

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]No, only difference would be graphics.mjarantilla

If so then forget I even asked the question as you would be in some very, very serious denial though I'm seeing allot of that in this thread and to be fair, in most threads in this forum. :?

GTA4 could actually be better on the Wii, since Godfather was better on the Wii, and Bully is better on the Wii. A GTA-type game could benefit greatly from the immersion provided by the motion controls.

Yeah, that phone is ringing and the pot is wanting to know why the kettle is saying these things. :P

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]I believe the Wii gets a pass on certain elements. Things the other two couldn't get away with. mjarantilla

The Wii doesn't get any pass. If a certain quality about the Wii doesn't interfere with having an enjoyable game experience, then it's not an important quality.

Look @ gs and GT reviews of SSBB... they don't include story at all. They mention subspace as an addon when infact Nitty intended it to be a big part of the game... you can see how much detail was put into cutscenes etc yet subspace is subpar and they call it an addon instead of a lacking singleplayer :S .

[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

If galaxy wasn't that great, then how did it win GoTY over all the other gams on the ps3 and 360?

And you have to prove the claim for galaxy and brawl. No proof, no arguement.

Stevo_the_gamer

This year was no different, but instead of one title deserving it more, multiple titles deserved it. Personally, Galaxy winning was not a surprise to me, just like how Gears of War was not a surprise. I was secretly hoping they wouldn't win, that the better games would triump over them - but nope, I was wrong. Unfortuately, it's just sad that Wii fans bring up "GoTY" when they forget that it barely got the title and hardly deserved it against games such World in Conflict, Call of Duty 4, Bioshiock and, arguably, Halo 3. Just my view on it all.

oh please. listen to yourself. SMG barely won GOTY and Gears didnt deserve GOTY? get off your high horse, nobody cares about your opinion except you.

Good games, but hardly great games IMHOCoredog777

Have you ever played them? Yes, they don't have actual bloody killing in them, but I'd assume your mature enough that you don't need gruesome deaths and guns to enjoy a game.