If SuperBrawl and SuperMario galaxy were on 360 or PS3 they wouldnt be AAA.

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#151 Fondness
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some people just cant take the fact that the Wii has awesome games. whats the problem?

ogvampire

Well, everybody doesn't favour the video games on Wii in preference to the video games on Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.

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#152 Arsuz
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Not that it comes as a big shock to anyone but at least it's out in the open for all to see; you have no cred.

Good Day.

SecretPolice

Are you saying Mass Effect is better than KOTOR? :|

I'm not the one who imposes his personal opinion on others, but you started, so I think you are the one without credibility...

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#153 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]No, only difference would be graphics.SecretPolice

Interesting.... how about a GT4 on Wii - head to head with 360/PC/PS3 - umm ya think graphics would be the only difference ?

If so then forget I even asked the question as you would be in some very, very serious denial though I'm seeing allot of that in this thread and to be fair, in most threads in this forum. :?

GTA4 could actually be better on the Wii, since Godfather was better on the Wii, and Bully is better on the Wii. A GTA-type game could benefit greatly from the immersion provided by the motion controls.

:lol: Didn't I just read you say something about: " don't listen to him he is prejudice " ?

Yeah, that phone is ringing and the pot is wanting to know why the kettle is saying these things. :P

whats wrong with his statement. Minus the visuals. Why couldnt GTA 4 still be an amazing game on the wii. THe controls could easily help the terrible shooting the franchise is known for. IT would give them more room to work with just the gameplay and such.

Not saying i dont think GTA 4 on 360 or PS3 would suck. But i dont see how it would be terrible on Wii. I think either way it would be an amazing game.

Oh I dunno - maybe some more critical thinking and less daydreaming might provide the obvious answers and just for fun I'll let you two try figuring it out on your own. :roll:

:lol:

You're the one who has delusions about the 360 and PS3's abilities to revolutionize the GTA experience.

Face it. GTA4 will most likely just be a bigger game than previous GTAs. Most of the mechanics it'll incorporate will be basic mechanics that could've been done on the Xbox and PS2, and therefore also on the Wii. Graphics will be the only differentiator.

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#154 Blackbond
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When a game gets GOTY as SMG did that means its better then all games that came out that year. I fail to see the point in this thread. If Wii games are held at a lower standard due to graphics then what does that make SMG? The best gameplay ever to grace man because it received GOTY over games on superior hardware with better graphics?

The mere fact that SMG won GOTY at so many places and is #2 on GR kills this thread.

SMG would have been GOTY if it was on 360 or PS3 as well.

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#155 flazzle
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Nintendo has the best gameplay and puts the most focus in this area than any other developer (arguably, but i believe this).

Yes, we know the other 2 systems have better graphics. I think this secret was let out a couple weeks ago. But where they lack in graphics, the excel in motion controls. So every system has something the other does not. Graphics is always targeted probably because it's the most apparent difference and plus its the old school way of thinking.

Nintendo thought out of the box. So much so Sony didn't get it, MS didn't get it, and fanboys here STILL don't get it.
Graphics a game does not make. I'll trade graphic quality for 60 FPS any day.

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#156 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Not that it comes as a big shock to anyone but at least it's out in the open for all to see; you have no cred.

Good Day.

Arsuz

Are you saying Mass Effect is better than KOTOR? :|

I'm not the one who imposes his personal opinion on others, but you started, so I think you are the one without credibility...

You too. :?

It's called - trying to change the subject and in my book = LOSE !

What does KOTOR have to do with my question ? Was KOTOR on GC ?

I would if I had time go pull my remarks from the M.E. sticky at the time showing I said that to me, Kotor was better for it's time and was a bit disappointed after completing M.E. for the first time.

Since that time however, I have come to love M.E. after my third play through of the game.

Regardless - Changing the subject FTL ! :(

PS: name the Wii game that uses a fraction of dialog that M.E. uses - I mean it has DVD right ?

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#157 Coredog777
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wow what a firestorm i started, sorry guys.
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#158 Arsuz
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You too. :?

It's called - trying to change the subject and in my book = LOSE !

What does KOTOR have to do with my question ? Was KOTOR on GC ?

I would if I had time go pull my remarks from the M.E. sticky at the time showing I said that to me, Kotor was better for it's time and was a bit disappointed after completing M.E. for the first time.

Since that time however, I have come to love M.E. after my third play through of the game.

Regardless - Changing the subject FTL ! :(

PS: name the Wii game that uses a fraction of dialog that M.E. uses - I mean it has DVD right ?

SecretPolice

How did he change the subject? You asked if ME would be 8.5 if on the Wii. He answered yes and he gave his reasond why he believes it would be an 8.5.

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#159 locopatho
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[QUOTE="Arsuz"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Not that it comes as a big shock to anyone but at least it's out in the open for all to see; you have no cred.

Good Day.

SecretPolice

Are you saying Mass Effect is better than KOTOR? :|

I'm not the one who imposes his personal opinion on others, but you started, so I think you are the one without credibility...

You too. :?

It's called - trying to change the subject and in my book = LOSE !

What does KOTOR have to do with my question ? Was KOTOR on GC ?

I would if I had time go pull my remarks from the M.E. sticky at the time showing I said that to me, Kotor was better for it's time and was a bit disappointed after completing M.E. for the first time.

Since that time however, I have come to love M.E. after my third play through of the game.

Regardless - Changing the subject FTL ! :(

PS: name the Wii game that uses a fraction of dialog that M.E. uses - I mean it has DVD right ?

Lol yes it does have DVD which was my point, the fact there is no Wii game with that much dialog is the fault of devs not hardware.

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#160 Ontain
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When a game gets GOTY as SMG did that means its better then all games that came out that year. I fail to see the point in this thread. If Wii games are held at a lower standard due to graphics then what does that make SMG? The best gameplay ever to grace man because it received GOTY over games on superior hardware with better graphics?

The mere fact that SMG won GOTY at so many places and is #2 on GR kills this thread.

SMG would have been GOTY if it was on 360 or PS3 as well.

Blackbond

it's so simple really but they ignore this point or argue that it isn't GOTY on EVERY site :roll:

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#161 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="Arsuz"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Not that it comes as a big shock to anyone but at least it's out in the open for all to see; you have no cred.

Good Day.

SecretPolice

Are you saying Mass Effect is better than KOTOR? :|

I'm not the one who imposes his personal opinion on others, but you started, so I think you are the one without credibility...

You too. :?

It's called - trying to change the subject and in my book = LOSE !

What does KOTOR have to do with my question ? Was KOTOR on GC ?

I would if I had time go pull my remarks from the M.E. sticky at the time showing I said that to me, Kotor was better for it's time and was a bit disappointed after completing M.E. for the first time.

Since that time however, I have come to love M.E. after my third play through of the game.

Regardless - Changing the subject FTL ! :(

PS: name the Wii game that uses a fraction of dialog that M.E. uses - I mean it has DVD right ?

Name a 360 game that uses a fraction of the dialogue that ME uses.

ME is one of a kind. Even Oblivion doesn't use NEARLY as much dialogue. Oblivion's dialogue is all repeated.

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#162 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="Arsuz"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Not that it comes as a big shock to anyone but at least it's out in the open for all to see; you have no cred.

Good Day.

mjarantilla

Are you saying Mass Effect is better than KOTOR? :|

I'm not the one who imposes his personal opinion on others, but you started, so I think you are the one without credibility...

You too. :?

It's called - trying to change the subject and in my book = LOSE !

What does KOTOR have to do with my question ? Was KOTOR on GC ?

I would if I had time go pull my remarks from the M.E. sticky at the time showing I said that to me, Kotor was better for it's time and was a bit disappointed after completing M.E. for the first time.

Since that time however, I have come to love M.E. after my third play through of the game.

Regardless - Changing the subject FTL ! :(

PS: name the Wii game that uses a fraction of dialog that M.E. uses - I mean it has DVD right ?

Name a 360 game that uses a fraction of the dialogue that ME uses.

ME is one of a kind. Even Oblivion doesn't use NEARLY as much dialogue. Oblivion's dialogue is all repeated.

Oh really - just so all the delusional fans know I am done with responding to the obvious naive semantic you are known to use !

You said it right there - Oblivion - when was that made for 360 ? yeah, and you folks want to act like: it's no biggie, Wii could do that but the devs won't. Well friggin excuse me but isn't it all you who always say: Nintendo is the # 1 dev. ?

Give me a break done trying to lead this horse to water. ;)

Carry on.

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#163 BubbyJello
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Do games get points docked for having low quality graphics? I don't think they do. Glitches, slowdowns, and anything that disrupts the gameplay can give a game a lower score, but not lower quality graphics. However, the reviewer may mention the quality of the graphics in the review, but I don't think they have any effect on the score.
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#164 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="Arsuz"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Not that it comes as a big shock to anyone but at least it's out in the open for all to see; you have no cred.

Good Day.

SecretPolice

Are you saying Mass Effect is better than KOTOR? :|

I'm not the one who imposes his personal opinion on others, but you started, so I think you are the one without credibility...

You too. :?

It's called - trying to change the subject and in my book = LOSE !

What does KOTOR have to do with my question ? Was KOTOR on GC ?

I would if I had time go pull my remarks from the M.E. sticky at the time showing I said that to me, Kotor was better for it's time and was a bit disappointed after completing M.E. for the first time.

Since that time however, I have come to love M.E. after my third play through of the game.

Regardless - Changing the subject FTL ! :(

PS: name the Wii game that uses a fraction of dialog that M.E. uses - I mean it has DVD right ?

Name a 360 game that uses a fraction of the dialogue that ME uses.

ME is one of a kind. Even Oblivion doesn't use NEARLY as much dialogue. Oblivion's dialogue is all repeated.

Oh really - just so all the delusional fans know I am done with responding to the obvious naive semantic you are known to use !

You said it right there - Oblivion - when was that made for 360 ? yeah, and you folks want to act like: it's no biggie, Wii could do that but the devs won't. Well friggin excuse me but isn't it all you who always say: Nintendo is the # 1 dev. ?

Give me a break done trying to lead this horse to water. ;)

Carry on.

HAH, so you actually consider Oblivion's dialogue to be as extensive as Mass Effect's? Or that it's even good dialogue?The game where every character that isn't a main character has the same voice actor and regurgitates the same lines? :lol:

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#165 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Lets take Mass Effect as a example.

Ya think had that game which scored 8.5 on 360 could be done and if it were to have launched the exact same way on Wii ( LMAO ) 2 billion lines ( sarcastic but not that far off :lol: ) of dialog, vast wide open areas, huge game with grx to die for etc. etc. etc. etc. - you get the picture - would score a 8.5 on Wii ? :roll:

One word for you if you say yes - Lier ! :D

The friggin game would score a 999 out of 10 for Wii - hiccup's and all ! :lol:

SecretPolice

and any game with motion sensing would not be possible on the 360. so whats your point?

A little research goes a long way !

Not that I would ever want to use it but 360 has had a game out for more then a year that uses motion sensing !

How in the world could that be the case - hmm ?

I'll leave it as a exercise for you to find out ! :lol:

getting a game with a special peripheral would be a different story now, wouldnt it?

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#166 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

the problem is that they go beyond their limits. they dock points from the score because of slowdowns, glitches, bugs.

look at Bully, the Wii version got a higher score cause the 360 version was FULL of bugs. make sense doesnt it.

like everybody said, wouldnt the 360/ps3 get a handicap cause the graphics are better on a PC? no, then why would it be like that for the Wii.

maybe cause the haters? yes

The_Dan_K

That just proves my point. Yes, the 360 got docked for glitches/bugs. Why didn't the Wii get knocked for not looking as good as the 360?

And before you say, "duh, because graphics don't matter," you need to ask youself a question. Why do graphics look better now than from, let's say, the SNES era? Why do games now carry surround sound tracks? Answer that question using your brain and you know that graphics and audio (and A.I.) are a HUGE aprt of a game. The more real or fake it looks (whether its fiction or non-fiction) the more involving it is. The better and more real it sounds, the more involing it is.

Why HD? Why DVD? Why do we make anything look better?

then why dont 360/ps3 games get docked cause their graphics are worse than the PC?

funny how you ignore that question. that should keep you quiet

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#168 Philmon
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[QUOTE="The_Dan_K"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

the problem is that they go beyond their limits. they dock points from the score because of slowdowns, glitches, bugs.

look at Bully, the Wii version got a higher score cause the 360 version was FULL of bugs. make sense doesnt it.

like everybody said, wouldnt the 360/ps3 get a handicap cause the graphics are better on a PC? no, then why would it be like that for the Wii.

maybe cause the haters? yes

ogvampire

That just proves my point. Yes, the 360 got docked for glitches/bugs. Why didn't the Wii get knocked for not looking as good as the 360?

And before you say, "duh, because graphics don't matter," you need to ask youself a question. Why do graphics look better now than from, let's say, the SNES era? Why do games now carry surround sound tracks? Answer that question using your brain and you know that graphics and audio (and A.I.) are a HUGE aprt of a game. The more real or fake it looks (whether its fiction or non-fiction) the more involving it is. The better and more real it sounds, the more involing it is.

Why HD? Why DVD? Why do we make anything look better?

then why dont 360/ps3 games get docked cause their graphics are worse than the PC?

funny how you ignore that question. that should keep you quiet

The funny thing is that not too long ago, multiplat games on the X-Box/PS2 and PC were getting the same scores and I dont remember this much complaining going on.

Also to the TC, take a look at Tomb Raider Anniversary, it came out on the PC/PS2/Wii/360 and it scored higher on both the PC and PS2 than the 360. Now tell me how does this figure in your argument?

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#169 67gt500
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Great games are great games - regardless of which platform they're on...
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#170 james28893
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GOTY

/thread

SER69

Doesn't the GOTY generally need to do something significantly new/innovative.

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#171 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="SER69"]

GOTY

/thread

james28893

Doesn't the GOTY generally need to do something significantly new/innovative.

Gears won GOTY, if you ask some sheep and cows they swear that there is nothing innovative or new about it

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#172 samusarmada
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wow what a firestorm i started, sorry guys.Coredog777

you dont need to apologise again. Fans of either system will find ways to argue with each other no matter what the topic is about.

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#173 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="SER69"]

GOTY

/thread

james28893

Doesn't the GOTY generally need to do something significantly new/innovative.

No, it just needs to be the best of the year. And that's what Super Mario Galaxy was.

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#174 Fondness
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[QUOTE="james28893"][QUOTE="SER69"]

GOTY

/thread

mjarantilla

Doesn't the GOTY generally need to do something significantly new/innovative.

No, it just needs to be the best of the year. And that's what Super Mario Galaxy was.

Wasn't it accompanied by BioShock?

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#175 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="james28893"][QUOTE="SER69"]

GOTY

/thread

Fondness

Doesn't the GOTY generally need to do something significantly new/innovative.

No, it just needs to be the best of the year. And that's what Super Mario Galaxy was.

Wasn't it accompanied by BioShock?

Yeah, but I give the edge to SMG. :)

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#176 Fondness
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[QUOTE="Fondness"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="james28893"][QUOTE="SER69"]

GOTY

/thread

mjarantilla

Doesn't the GOTY generally need to do something significantly new/innovative.

No, it just needs to be the best of the year. And that's what Super Mario Galaxy was.

Wasn't it accompanied by BioShock?

Yeah, but I give the edge to SMG. :)

Fine. :)

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#177 cosmostein77
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SMG is more about level design and gameplay then it is about Graphics,

It wouldn't be AAA on 360 or PS3 because they both lack what the Wii-Mote seems to offer to that game.

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#178 heavystar
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Actually Xbox live would fix the only HUGE problem I have with SSBB on the Wii.
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#179 nintendo-4life
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Actually Xbox live would fix the only HUGE problem I have with SSBB on the Wii.heavystar
the problem is not with the poiwer of the Wii rather than the whole service
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#180 Sonick54
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[QUOTE="SER69"]

GOTY

/thread

james28893

Doesn't the GOTY generally need to do something significantly new/innovative.

well, if galaxy won GOTY then yes it did

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#181 shoeman12
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they wouldn't exist in the same state, the graphics would be upgraded.
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#182 ogvampire
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they wouldn't exist in the same state, the graphics would be upgraded.shoeman12

LoL! you make the best point out of this whole thread

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#183 Homesrfan
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Super Mario Galaxy was the best game of the year, and one of the best of this generation. Super Smash Brothers Brawl was pakced to the brim with content. They deserve their scores.
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#184 The_Dan_K
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then why dont 360/ps3 games get docked cause their graphics are worse than the PC?

funny how you ignore that question. that should keep you quiet

ogvampire

What?!? :lol:

That's exactly my point. Why didn't 360's Bioshock have less of a score than the PC version? Or why wasn't the PC version scored higher for smoother running and better graphics? I assume because they handicapped the 360. They know that the PC has equipment that the 360 doesn't that the best equipped PC will kill a console.

Just like with the PS3/360 and the Wii.

Sad. You think you are shutting me down yet are only helping to make my point. Nice try though.

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#185 The_Dan_K
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Super Mario Galaxy was the best game of the year, and one of the best of this generation. Super Smash Brothers Brawl was pakced to the brim with content. They deserve their scores.Homesrfan

Here's where the confusion lies. I don't think most of us are saying the scores are wrong. Just that its wrong to say a Wii 9.0 is the same as a 360 9.0.

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#186 Michael85
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does anyone really think smash bros would benefit from individual breast physics?samusarmada

Does Brawl contain any characters whose breasts are big enough to experience such physics?

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#187 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

then why dont 360/ps3 games get docked cause their graphics are worse than the PC?

funny how you ignore that question. that should keep you quiet

The_Dan_K

What?!? :lol:

That's exactly my point. Why didn't 360's Bioshock have less of a score than the PC version? Or why wasn't the PC version scored higher for smoother running and better graphics? I assume because they handicapped the 360. They know that the PC has equipment that the 360 doesn't that the best equipped PC will kill a console.

Just like with the PS3/360 and the Wii.

Sad. You think you are shutting me down yet are only helping to make my point. Nice try though.

the answer is that each game is rated based on their respective systems. that has been said numerous times already, whats not to understand then?

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#188 Michael85
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[QUOTE="Homesrfan"]Super Mario Galaxy was the best game of the year, and one of the best of this generation. Super Smash Brothers Brawl was pakced to the brim with content. They deserve their scores.The_Dan_K

Here's where the confusion lies. I don't think most of us are saying the scores are wrong. Just that its wrong to say a Wii 9.0 is the same as a 360 9.0.

Apparently it is, since a 9.5 on the Wii beat out 9.5s on other, higher-end systems.

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#189 out0v0rder
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]No, only difference would be graphics.mjarantilla

Interesting.... how about a GT4 on Wii - head to head with 360/PC/PS3 - umm ya think graphics would be the only difference ?

If so then forget I even asked the question as you would be in some very, very serious denial though I'm seeing allot of that in this thread and to be fair, in most threads in this forum. :?

GTA4 could actually be better on the Wii, since Godfather was better on the Wii, and Bully is better on the Wii. A GTA-type game could benefit greatly from the immersion provided by the motion controls.

:lol: Didn't I just read you say something about: " don't listen to him he is prejudice " ?

Yeah, that phone is ringing and the pot is wanting to know why the kettle is saying these things. :P

Hey, show me where I'm wrong. Go to any review site. They'll say that ALL of those GTA-type open-ended mission games benefited from the Wii remote. Why can't GTA4 benefit as well? Graphics are already known to be a minor part of the game experience. How many times have we seen reviewers say, "This game has great graphics, but...."? Genji, Army of Two, Lair, etc.

Unless you can show me SPECIFICALLY how GTA4 actually benefits from being on the 360 and PS3 other than in graphical detail, I think my statement is still perfectly valid.

You must be correct ! Umm - go ask Take 2 why they don't just throw together the game a make some big bucks off that plan because I'm sure they would love for you to let them know that all would work just peachy on the Wii.

Really, let them know just how easy it would be and how They, not you, don't know how to make money when publishing games. and to get on dev. to just do it. - I mean it's only the grx ! :roll:

Right, because as we all know, Take-Two and Rockstar LOVE Nintendo. Nintendo consoles are TOTALLY their first priority, and if they had a chance they WOULD make GTA games for Nintendo consoles, right? That's why GTAIII, Vice City, and San Andreas ALL made it to the GameCube. Right?

:roll:

I'm just saying it would be better. I don't pretend to have any insight into Take-Two or Rockstar's internal designs for GTA4, but so far this generation, I've seen almost nothing on the 360 and PS3 that couldn't be done on the Wii with only a graphical downgrade. I'm assuming the same is true for GTA4.

Compared to other consoles, the 360 and PS3 have totally FAILED in making any significant advancements over the last generation.

i love you mjarantilla. Seriously guys, GeOW, Lair, Halo3 could have been done last gen, just take off the HDR.
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#190 Shadow_op
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Do people seriously not get that a game is reviewed as its self, not in comparison with other games?
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#191 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="Homesrfan"]Super Mario Galaxy was the best game of the year, and one of the best of this generation. Super Smash Brothers Brawl was pakced to the brim with content. They deserve their scores.The_Dan_K

Here's where the confusion lies. I don't think most of us are saying the scores are wrong. Just that its wrong to say a Wii 9.0 is the same as a 360 9.0.

No More Heroes vs. Perfect Dark Zero... do you really want to go there? :roll:

And like Michael 85 said, SMG's 9.5 beat Halo 3's and Crysis's 9.5.

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#192 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Homesrfan"]Super Mario Galaxy was the best game of the year, and one of the best of this generation. Super Smash Brothers Brawl was pakced to the brim with content. They deserve their scores.The_Dan_K

Here's where the confusion lies. I don't think most of us are saying the scores are wrong. Just that its wrong to say a Wii 9.0 is the same as a 360 9.0.

Well by that logic it would seem that a 9.5 on 360 is less then a 9.5 on the Wii and that the Wii has higher standards. I mean Halo 3 and Super Mario Galaxy both scored the same right but only one got GOTY :roll:

Hell Crysis scored 9.5 as well. Yes there are standards for platforms such as a console game having 40 plus people in multiplayer is special while on PC its nothing special. But you are just reaching for anything you can grab on to.

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#193 The_Dan_K
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[QUOTE="The_Dan_K"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

then why dont 360/ps3 games get docked cause their graphics are worse than the PC?

funny how you ignore that question. that should keep you quiet

ogvampire

What?!? :lol:

That's exactly my point. Why didn't 360's Bioshock have less of a score than the PC version? Or why wasn't the PC version scored higher for smoother running and better graphics? I assume because they handicapped the 360. They know that the PC has equipment that the 360 doesn't that the best equipped PC will kill a console.

Just like with the PS3/360 and the Wii.

Sad. You think you are shutting me down yet are only helping to make my point. Nice try though.

the answer is that each game is rated based on their respective systems. that has been said numerous times already, whats not to understand then?

What's not to understand is if a Wii-owner knows what you just stated (what I stated as well) why would they be acting like a Wii 9.0 equals a 360 9.0?

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#194 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="The_Dan_K"]

[QUOTE="Homesrfan"]Super Mario Galaxy was the best game of the year, and one of the best of this generation. Super Smash Brothers Brawl was pakced to the brim with content. They deserve their scores.Blackbond

Here's where the confusion lies. I don't think most of us are saying the scores are wrong. Just that its wrong to say a Wii 9.0 is the same as a 360 9.0.

Well by that logic it would seem that a 9.5 on 360 is less then a 9.5 on the Wii and that the Wii has higher standards. I mean Halo 3 and Super Mario Galaxy both scored the same right but only one got GOTY :roll:

Hell Crysis scored 9.5 as well. Yes there are standards for platforms such as a console game having 40 plus people in multiplayer is special while on PC its nothing special. But you are just reaching for anything you can grab on to.

Lol! Black Bond always comes in and sets the record straight. nice

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#195 GundamGuy0
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It's a per game thing, you can't systematically mark games down by standards on a system. This should be obvious.
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#196 The_Dan_K
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[QUOTE="The_Dan_K"]

[QUOTE="Homesrfan"]Super Mario Galaxy was the best game of the year, and one of the best of this generation. Super Smash Brothers Brawl was pakced to the brim with content. They deserve their scores.Blackbond

Here's where the confusion lies. I don't think most of us are saying the scores are wrong. Just that its wrong to say a Wii 9.0 is the same as a 360 9.0.

Well by that logic it would seem that a 9.5 on 360 is less then a 9.5 on the Wii and that the Wii has higher standards. I mean Halo 3 and Super Mario Galaxy both scored the same right but only one got GOTY :roll:

Hell Crysis scored 9.5 as well. Yes there are standards for platforms such as a console game having 40 plus people in multiplayer is special while on PC its nothing special. But you are just reaching for anything you can grab on to.

Its ONE friggin game people!!!! Don't just blindly tell me about GOTY awards. tell me why it was GOTY. GOTY is not a friggin review, people.

And just because SMG won GOTY doesn't mean all Wii games are as good. Doesn't mean SSBB is a lock for GOTY '08. That's just false.

What do you sheep want? SMG IS A GREAT GAME, BEAT OUT BIOSJOCK IN 2007. Neat.

Still doesn't mean a 9.0 on Wii equals a 9.0 on 360/PS3.

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#197 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="The_Dan_K"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

then why dont 360/ps3 games get docked cause their graphics are worse than the PC?

funny how you ignore that question. that should keep you quiet

The_Dan_K

What?!? :lol:

That's exactly my point. Why didn't 360's Bioshock have less of a score than the PC version? Or why wasn't the PC version scored higher for smoother running and better graphics? I assume because they handicapped the 360. They know that the PC has equipment that the 360 doesn't that the best equipped PC will kill a console.

Just like with the PS3/360 and the Wii.

Sad. You think you are shutting me down yet are only helping to make my point. Nice try though.

the answer is that each game is rated based on their respective systems. that has been said numerous times already, whats not to understand then?

What's not to understand is if a Wii-owner knows what you just stated (what I stated as well) why would they be acting like a Wii 9.0 equals a 360 9.0?

who said that?

all people have been saying on this thread is that its based on the system that its on.

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#198 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="The_Dan_K"]

[QUOTE="Homesrfan"]Super Mario Galaxy was the best game of the year, and one of the best of this generation. Super Smash Brothers Brawl was pakced to the brim with content. They deserve their scores.The_Dan_K

Here's where the confusion lies. I don't think most of us are saying the scores are wrong. Just that its wrong to say a Wii 9.0 is the same as a 360 9.0.

Well by that logic it would seem that a 9.5 on 360 is less then a 9.5 on the Wii and that the Wii has higher standards. I mean Halo 3 and Super Mario Galaxy both scored the same right but only one got GOTY :roll:

Hell Crysis scored 9.5 as well. Yes there are standards for platforms such as a console game having 40 plus people in multiplayer is special while on PC its nothing special. But you are just reaching for anything you can grab on to.

Its ONE friggin game people!!!! Don't just blindly tell me about GOTY awards. tell me why it was GOTY. GOTY is not a friggin review, people.

And just because SMG won GOTY doesn't mean all Wii games are as good. Doesn't mean SSBB is a lock for GOTY '08. That's just false.

What do you sheep want? SMG IS A GREAT GAME, BEAT OUT BIOSJOCK IN 2007. Neat.

Still doesn't mean a 9.0 on Wii equals a 9.0 on 360/PS3.

Wow! dude, whatever helps you sleep at night. meanwhile, reality moves on without you

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#199 GundamGuy0
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Still doesn't mean a 9.0 on Wii equals a 9.0 on 360/PS3.

The_Dan_K

It means you can't use standards because it doesn't work. You can't compare games based on scores, if anyone would actually read the review guide you would know this. You can say that a Great game is a Great game regardless of the console... but you can't say which is better based on teh review or the score. It's not that precise.

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#200 Udsen
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But SSBB and SMG haven't really shown to be held back by graphics. They would be AAA because they're both excellent games. ;)