If you think Half-Life is better than Halo, come here.

i think this thread packs some serious ownage, i can feel hermits tears "buh buh console cawnt haz good FPS i am criez :cry:"

sikanderahmed

It's called an opinion.You know, it's not a fact that Half Life is better than Halo, it's just a common opinion. And Halo is going downhill.

It's called an opinion.You know, it's not a fact that Half Life is better than Halo, it's just a common opinion. And Halo is going downhill.

brickdoctor

Not really.

I think there are better FPS's than both Half life and Halo, but between the two I must say I like Halo better.

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="supercubedude64"] PalmOn: Apply directly to forehead.sSubZerOo

No, I'm serious. It has?

I thought people finished the game once and then never looked at it again. Am I somehow wrong?

CS has a community, maybe. But not Half-Life. It's just not something you stick to...

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

i think this thread packs some serious ownage, i can feel hermits tears "buh buh console cawnt haz good FPS i am criez :cry:"

malikmmm

Or the PC fans have been severly owned and have no arguments except for "higher standards" without proof. LMAO, desperate Hermits.

[QUOTE="malikmmm"][QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

i think this thread packs some serious ownage, i can feel hermits tears "buh buh console cawnt haz good FPS i am criez :cry:"

SODRChief

Or the PC fans have been severly owned and have no arguments except for "higher standards" without proof. LMAO, desperate Hermits.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/halo2/index.html?tag=result;title;0

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halo2/index.html?tag=result;title;1

funny you should say that...

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="malikmmm"] Go back and read the 17 pages again! consoles jockeys have gone through serious pawnage in this thread!Mr_Apple_Soup

Or the PC fans have been severly owned and have no arguments except for "higher standards" without proof. LMAO, desperate Hermits.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/halo2/index.html?tag=result;title;0

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halo2/index.html?tag=result;title;1

funny you should say that...

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2/index.html?tag=result;title;2

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/halflife2/index.html?tag=result;title;2

Consoles have higher standards and still Halo > Half-Life.

[QUOTE="malikmmm"][QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

i think this thread packs some serious ownage, i can feel hermits tears "buh buh console cawnt haz good FPS i am criez :cry:"

SODRChief

Or the PC fans have been severly owned and have no arguments except for "higher standards" without proof. LMAO, desperate Hermits.

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

Or the PC fans have been severly owned and have no arguments except for "higher standards" without proof. LMAO, desperate Hermits.

SODRChief

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/halo2/index.html?tag=result;title;0

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halo2/index.html?tag=result;title;1

funny you should say that...

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2/index.html?tag=result;title;2

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/halflife2/index.html?tag=result;title;2

Consoles have higher standards and still Halo > Half-Life.

The Bad

• No multiplayer gameplay whatsoever
• The frame rate struggles most of the time, and downright dies on occasion
• Nothing to differentiate the Xbox game from its PC counterpart, save for its flaws.

actually, the half life console version got docked points because it was gimped and didn't run well on teh superior consoles

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

Or the PC fans have been severly owned and have no arguments except for "higher standards" without proof. LMAO, desperate Hermits.

SODRChief

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/halo2/index.html?tag=result;title;0

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halo2/index.html?tag=result;title;1

funny you should say that...

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2/index.html?tag=result;title;2

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/halflife2/index.html?tag=result;title;2

Consoles have higher standards and still Halo > Half-Life.

Or the PC fans have been severly owned and have no arguments except for "higher standards" without proof. LMAO, desperate Hermits.

SODRChief

You do realise that basically all gaming websites/journalism these days is catering for the console gamers. Nothing against console gamers personally, but their market is seen as the most common denominator, widely accessible market - resulting in "blockbuster" games getting rave reviews to please this market. It isn't bias, it's just marketing common sense.

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

Or the PC fans have been severly owned and have no arguments except for "higher standards" without proof. LMAO, desperate Hermits.

SODRChief

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/halo2/index.html?tag=result;title;0

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halo2/index.html?tag=result;title;1

funny you should say that...

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2/index.html?tag=result;title;2

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/halflife2/index.html?tag=result;title;2

Consoles have higher standards and still Halo > Half-Life.

If you read the xbox version review there no multiplayer and it has a lot of framerate problems, making it worse then the PC version. It was a bad port, so that not really a good example to back up "console has higher standards."

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]OMG, a reviewer gives Halo a higher score than Half-Life, so it must be better, amirite?!?! Nope. I have my own opinion, and I believe that Half-Life was more revolutionary than Halo CE and a much better game.SODRChief

A reviewer? Way to spin the facts.

MANY REVIEWERES.

Gamerankings - Halo CE 86.13%

Gamerankings - Half-Life: 94.06%

IGN - Halo CE - 8.2

IGN - Half life - 9.5

Gamespot - Halo CE - 9.0

Gamespot - Half life - 9.4

Metacritic - Halo CE - 83

Metacritic - Half Life: 96

I'll put this up again since you didn't see. No reviewer gave halo a higher score than half life

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/halo2/index.html?tag=result;title;0

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halo2/index.html?tag=result;title;1

funny you should say that...

Wanderer5

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2/index.html?tag=result;title;2

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/halflife2/index.html?tag=result;title;2

Consoles have higher standards and still Halo > Half-Life.

If you read the xbox version review there no multiplayer and it has a lot of framerate problems, making it worse then the PC version. It was a bad port, so that not really a good example to back up "console has higher standards."

And you have a good example of PC having higher standards? 2 reviews? LMAO. Real proof or GO and don't come back.

Only played Halo1, okay game but the level design really bugged me. The pacing and level design in Half-life 1 and 2 is superb. Gameplay vise they're both pretty basic stuff but extremely polished, which puts them among the best of their respective (original) platforms. Neither gets points for the story but HL does for the way the story is conveyed. HL1 for its time was the more innovative title. HL is the better game for me. But I also think the only fair comparison is HL2 vs Halo2 since they were released around the same time, and I haven't played H2.ManicAce

HL2 completely annihilates halo 2 since Imo that was the worse in the series.

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="malikmmm"] Go back and read the 17 pages again! consoles jockeys have gone through serious pawnage in this thread!pyromaniac223

Or the PC fans have been severly owned and have no arguments except for "higher standards" without proof. LMAO, desperate Hermits.

Even in music? lol, really?

[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"][QUOTE="SODRChief"]

Half-Life was lower-scoring on consoles, therefore consoles have higher standard. LMAO, logic.

SODRChief

Fail, by your logic consoles have higher standards. And yet, Halo outscored Half-Life.

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]OMG, a reviewer gives Halo a higher score than Half-Life, so it must be better, amirite?!?! Nope. I have my own opinion, and I believe that Half-Life was more revolutionary than Halo CE and a much better game.Espada12

A reviewer? Way to spin the facts.

MANY REVIEWERES.

Gamerankings - Halo CE 86.13%

Gamerankings - Half-Life: 94.06%

IGN - Halo CE - 8.2

IGN - Half life - 9.5

Gamespot - Halo CE - 9.0

Gamespot - Half life - 9.4

Metacritic - Halo CE - 83

Metacritic - Half Life: 96

I'll put this up again since you didn't see. No reviewer gave halo a higher score than half life

GameSpot -

Half-Life: 9.4 -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 9.7 - GameSpot: "it's easily one of the best shooters ever, on any platform."

IGN -

Half-Life: 9.5 -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 9.7 - IGN: "Halo is one of the best videogames. There I said it and I'm not going to take it back" IGN's second opinion: "Halo is the perfect example of what next-generation is about, in all forms"

GameRankings -

Half-Life: 94.06% -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 95.45% -

MetaCritic -

Half-Life: 96 -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 97 -

Halo OWNED Half-Life in scores. And in influence on the FPS gaming as it changed it and created the mass flood that it is today and made FPSs mainly for consoles.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="SODRChief"]

Or the PC fans have been severly owned and have no arguments except for "higher standards" without proof. LMAO, desperate Hermits.

SODRChief

Even in music? lol, really?

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"] LMAO Logic, look whos talking... Half life scored lower on consoles, sure bad port... Halo CE for PC was a good port and scored lower than Half Life.... There you go... Now go back to schoolLookAnDrolL

Fail, by your logic consoles have higher standards. And yet, Halo outscored Half-Life.

PC has never, doesn't and will never ever have higher standards. That's a fact. If you can't come up with a better argument don't bother using this one. It's as stupid as me saying Halo 3 sold 4.3 billion copies. == we both without proof

[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2/index.html?tag=result;title;2

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/halflife2/index.html?tag=result;title;2

Consoles have higher standards and still Halo > Half-Life.

SODRChief

If you read the xbox version review there no multiplayer and it has a lot of framerate problems, making it worse then the PC version. It was a bad port, so that not really a good example to back up "console has higher standards."

And you have a good example of PC having higher standards? 2 reviews? LMAO. Real proof or GO and don't come back.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

A reviewer? Way to spin the facts.

MANY REVIEWERES.

SODRChief

Gamerankings - Halo CE 86.13%

Gamerankings - Half-Life: 94.06%

IGN - Halo CE - 8.2

IGN - Half life - 9.5

Gamespot - Halo CE - 9.0

Gamespot - Half life - 9.4

Metacritic - Halo CE - 83

Metacritic - Half Life: 96

I'll put this up again since you didn't see. No reviewer gave halo a higher score than half life

GameSpot -

Half-Life: 9.4 -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 9.7 - GameSpot: "it's easily one of the best shooters ever, on any platform."

IGN -

Half-Life: 9.5 -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 9.7 - IGN: "Halo is one of the best videogames. There I said it and I'm not going to take it back" IGN's second opinion: "Halo is the perfect example of what next-generation is about, in all forms"

GameRankings -

Half-Life: 94.06% -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 95.45% -

MetaCritic -

Half-Life: 96 -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 97 -

Halo OWNED Half-Life in scores. And in influence on the FPS gaming as it changed it and created the mass flood that it is today and made FPSs mainly for consoles.

What? why are you using the XBOX scores and not the PC score? Especially when the PC version was better than the xbox version and was a good port yet it still got lower.. higher standards right there..

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] That and their opinions. Just like you only have yours. It is my firm belief that Half Life> Halo in every single area, and nothing you can say will change that.pyromaniac223

Even in music? lol, really?

And in replayability. I guess you're still haveing extraordinarily fun with your bots after all these years...

And in influence on the FPS gaming as it changed it and created the mass flood that it is today and made FPSs mainly for consoles.

SODRChief

The only influences Halo has had is making absolutely moronic changes such as regenerating health and soulless space marines fighting to save 'x' planet from 'y' threat common nature in the FPS market.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="SODRChief"]

Even in music? lol, really?

SODRChief

And in replayability. I guess you're still haveing extraordinarily fun with your bots after all these years...

[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"][QUOTE="SODRChief"]

Fail, by your logic consoles have higher standards. And yet, Halo outscored Half-Life.

SODRChief

PC has never, doesn't and will never ever have higher standards. That's a fact.

Since when?

Care to back up that?

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"] Wh?? wot?? Let me intruduce you someone, LOGIC heres SORDChief, SORDChief heres LOGIC... Is the other way around, PC always has, and will have higher standars, especially in FPS. Your just another console boyish teeenish dude.... next.LookAnDrolL

PC has never, doesn't and will never ever have higher standards. That's a fact.

Since when?

Care to back up that?

Since year 0.

It's merely a bad and weak excuse used by Hermits in full damage control when a PC game is outscored by a console game...

And you have a good example of PC having higher standards? 2 reviews? LMAO. Real proof or GO and don't come back.

SODRChief

http://xbox.ign.com/objects/482/482228.html

http://pc.ign.com/objects/804/804393.html

hmm...i'm sensing a trend here

http://www.metacritic.com/search/process?sort=relevance&termType=all&ts=halo+2&ty=0&x=0&y=0

and it looks like there was a trend!

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] I'll give you music, but every other area, gunplay, level design, graphics, physics, innovation, story, narrative, all the things that matter, Half Life series>>>>>>Halo seriespyromaniac223

And in replayability. I guess you're still haveing extraordinarily fun with your bots after all these years...

Lol, CS is boring and CS = / = Half-Life.

Neither does Team Fortress have anything on Halo. It's a kiddy and relatively non-serious MP game.

[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

PC has never, doesn't and will never ever have higher standards. That's a fact. SODRChief

Since when?

Care to back up that?

Since year 0.

It's merely a bad and weak excuse used by Hermits in full damage control when a PC game is outscored by a console game...

Again care to back that up? And bad ports are not going to help you.

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]OMG, a reviewer gives Halo a higher score than Half-Life, so it must be better, amirite?!?! Nope. I have my own opinion, and I believe that Half-Life was more revolutionary than Halo CE and a much better game.Espada12

A reviewer? Way to spin the facts.

MANY REVIEWERES.

Gamerankings - Halo CE 86.13%

Gamerankings - Half-Life: 94.06%

IGN - Halo CE - 8.2

IGN - Half life - 9.5

Gamespot - Halo CE - 9.0

Gamespot - Half life - 9.4

Metacritic - Halo CE - 83

Metacritic - Half Life: 96

I'll put this up again since you didn't see. No reviewer gave halo a higher score than half life

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="SODRChief"]

And in replayability. I guess you're still haveing extraordinarily fun with your bots after all these years...

SODRChief

Lol, CS is boring and CS = / = Half-Life.

Neither does Team Fortress have anything on Halo. It's a kiddy and relatively non-serious MP game.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

A reviewer? Way to spin the facts.

MANY REVIEWERES.

SparkyProtocol

Gamerankings - Halo CE 86.13%

Gamerankings - Half-Life: 94.06%

IGN - Halo CE - 8.2

IGN - Half life - 9.5

Gamespot - Halo CE - 9.0

Gamespot - Half life - 9.4

Metacritic - Halo CE - 83

Metacritic - Half Life: 96

I'll put this up again since you didn't see. No reviewer gave halo a higher score than half life

I'm using PC scores since both games are on PC.

[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

PC has never, doesn't and will never ever have higher standards. That's a fact. SODRChief

Since when?

Care to back up that?

Since year 0.

It's merely a bad and weak excuse used by Hermits in full damage control when a PC game is outscored by a console game...

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"]

Since when?

Care to back up that?

ManicAce

Since year 0.

It's merely a bad and weak excuse used by Hermits in full damage control when a PC game is outscored by a console game...

Just some quotes from Half Life's GS review "Half-Life is the closest thing to a revolutionary step the genre has ever taken." "...the fact that the game is so close to ideal." "It takes the tried-and-true one step further but ends up leaps and bounds ahead of the rest." Score: 9.4 Compare that to Halo's 9.0 score.pyromaniac223

GameSpot on Halo -

"it's easily one of the best shooters ever, on any platform."

"Halo is a complete thrill ride from beginning to end, an experience perhaps best described as a 16-hour-plus version of the siege scene from the film Terminator 2."

"The control in Halo is excellent. It earns the nicest compliment that you can give a console first-person shooter: You won't find yourself constantly wishing for a keyboard and mouse."

9.7

Halo changed everything. Sorry, Half-Life - you weren't even close.

Neither does Team Fortress have anything on Halo. It's a kiddy and relatively non-serious MP game.SODRChief

Did you actually just rely on calling Team Fortress "kiddy"? Not mentioning the first mod and Team Fortress Classic's realistic art style, naturally. Besides - calling TF2 non-serious is just a blatant, uninformed statement. Have you ever played in a professional league for either Halo or TF2? Hell, go youtube some videos of CPL for halo or etf2l/esl for TF2 - TF2 is miles more intense, incredibly serious and actually requires a team to win.

And you don't seem to get the point that BEFORE halo, console standards were low. Along comes halo whilst these lower standards are in place - and it gets a high score.

If it was released on the PC at the same time, with the PC's higher standards for FPS (because you are right - Halo revolutionised console FPS's, only because they were lame in the first place, save Goldeneye) it wouldn't have scored nearly as high.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]Just some quotes from Half Life's GS review "Half-Life is the closest thing to a revolutionary step the genre has ever taken." "...the fact that the game is so close to ideal." "It takes the tried-and-true one step further but ends up leaps and bounds ahead of the rest." Score: 9.4 Compare that to Halo's 9.0 score.SODRChief

GameSpot on Halo -

"it's easily one of the best shooters ever, on any platform."

"Halo is a complete thrill ride from beginning to end, an experience perhaps best described as a 16-hour-plus version of the siege scene from the film Terminator 2."

"The control in Halo is excellent. It earns the nicest compliment that you can give a console first-person shooter: You won't find yourself constantly wishing for a keyboard and mouse."

9.7

Halo changed everything. Sorry, Half-Life - you weren't even close.

[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

PC has never, doesn't and will never ever have higher standards. That's a fact. SODRChief

Since when?

Care to back up that?

Since year 0.

It's merely a bad and weak excuse used by Hermits in full damage control when a PC game is outscored by a console game...

HALO CE (PC) Metacritic SCORE 83

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/halo?q=HALO

HALF-LIFE (PC) Metacritic SCORE 96

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/halflife?q=Half-Life

HALO 2 (PC) Metacritic SCORE 72

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/halo2?q=Halo%202

HALF-LIFE 2 (PC) Metacritic SCORE 96

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/halflife2?q=Half-Life%202

Sure boy, now is clear to me...

I have seen the light

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]Just some quotes from Half Life's GS review "Half-Life is the closest thing to a revolutionary step the genre has ever taken." "...the fact that the game is so close to ideal." "It takes the tried-and-true one step further but ends up leaps and bounds ahead of the rest." Score: 9.4 Compare that to Halo's 9.0 score.pyromaniac223

GameSpot on Halo -

"it's easily one of the best shooters ever, on any platform."

"Halo is a complete thrill ride from beginning to end, an experience perhaps best described as a 16-hour-plus version of the siege scene from the film Terminator 2."

"The control in Halo is excellent. It earns the nicest compliment that you can give a console first-person shooter: You won't find yourself constantly wishing for a keyboard and mouse."

9.7

Halo changed everything. Sorry, Half-Life - you weren't even close.

"it's easily one of the best shooters ever, on any platform."

Read and yell out of sorrow and anger.

Hermits are the most annoying section of SW - can't accept that their "god-like" Half-Life got owned by Halo in scores and continues to fight back with weak arguments even if there is good proof that CE is excellet. Ign stated Halo changed the way FPSs are going to be measured. GS called it one of the greatest games ever. On its wiki, it said it's one of the most important and best games ever.

ACCEPT FACTS, HERMITES.

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] No, I'm having fun with Counter Strike and Team Fortress. Two Half Life mods that kick the **** out of halo's multiplayer.pyromaniac223

Lol, CS is boring and CS = / = Half-Life.

Neither does Team Fortress have anything on Halo. It's a kiddy and relatively non-serious MP game.

Not even CLOSE to Halo's MP.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="SODRChief"]

GameSpot on Halo -

"it's easily one of the best shooters ever, on any platform."

"Halo is a complete thrill ride from beginning to end, an experience perhaps best described as a 16-hour-plus version of the siege scene from the film Terminator 2."

"The control in Halo is excellent. It earns the nicest compliment that you can give a console first-person shooter: You won't find yourself constantly wishing for a keyboard and mouse."

9.7

Halo changed everything. Sorry, Half-Life - you weren't even close.

SODRChief

"it's easily one of the best shooters ever, on any platform."

Read and yell out of sorrow and anger.

Hermits are the most annoying section of SW - can't accept that their "god-like" Half-Life got owned by Halo in scores and continues to fight back with weak arguments even if there is good proof that CE is excellet. Ign stated Halo changed the way FPSs are going to be measured. GS called it one of the greatest games ever. On its wiki, it said it's one of the most important and best games ever.

ACCEPT FACTS, HERMITES.

Jasonheyman is this you?? It's one of the best shooters on any platform and on our platform it got lower than the majority of our top shooters. Oh gee look at that.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="SODRChief"]

GameSpot on Halo -

"it's easily one of the best shooters ever, on any platform."

"Halo is a complete thrill ride from beginning to end, an experience perhaps best described as a 16-hour-plus version of the siege scene from the film Terminator 2."

"The control in Halo is excellent. It earns the nicest compliment that you can give a console first-person shooter: You won't find yourself constantly wishing for a keyboard and mouse."

9.7

Halo changed everything. Sorry, Half-Life - you weren't even close.

SODRChief

"it's easily one of the best shooters ever, on any platform."

Read and yell out of sorrow and anger.

Hermits are the most annoying section of SW - can't accept that their "god-like" Half-Life got owned by Halo in scores and continues to fight back with weak arguments even if there is good proof that CE is excellet. Ign stated Halo changed the way FPSs are going to be measured. GS called it one of the greatest games ever. On its wiki, it said it's one of the most important and best games ever.

ACCEPT FACTS, HERMITES.

I'm a huge pc gamer and have been for years. I'd choose Halo over Halflife and I know many people will think I'm crazy, but it's w/e. I never found what was so amazing about HL at all. It's probably one of the most boring FPS I have ever played that got such amazing reviews. Also I absolutely HATE must characters. It takes away from the experience completely. I also hate how PC fanboys completely act as if it's the god fps. It's decent at best, but people will continue to consider it godly mainly because the original was released when it was one of the fps to stand out of the crowd.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="SODRChief"]

Lol, CS is boring and CS = / = Half-Life.

Neither does Team Fortress have anything on Halo. It's a kiddy and relatively non-serious MP game.

SODRChief

Not even CLOSE to Halo's MP.

Did you even play TF? I kinda doubt it, since you call it kiddy and a non-serious MP, which is so not true.