If you think Half-Life is better than Halo, come here.

I'm a huge pc gamer and have been for years. I'd choose Halo over Halflife and I know many people will think I'm crazy, but it's w/e. I never found what was so amazing about HL at all. It's probably one of the most boring FPS I have ever played that got such amazing reviews. Also I absolutely HATE must characters. It takes away from the experience completely. I also hate how PC fanboys completely act as if it's the god fps. It's decent at best, but people will continue to consider it godly mainly because the original was released when it was one of the fps to stand out of the crowd.

bigblunt537

You know the same could be said for halo right?? I didn't think you would use your logic both ways though.

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] On the Xbox. The superior version of Halo, on the PC, got a 9. Sorry.pyromaniac223

"it's easily one of the best shooters ever, on any platform."

Read and yell out of sorrow and anger.

Hermits are the most annoying section of SW - can't accept that their "god-like" Half-Life got owned by Halo in scores and continues to fight back with weak arguments even if there is good proof that CE is excellet. Ign stated Halo changed the way FPSs are going to be measured. GS called it one of the greatest games ever. On its wiki, it said it's one of the most important and best games ever.

ACCEPT FACTS, HERMITES.

LOL. Does CS have Forge or Theater that you can watch your kills? lol. Does CS have vehicles? Don't embarras yourself.

And it's time to accept Halo being one of the best. It made developres release FPSs mainly for consoles, then port them to the PC and their sequels were record-breaking games.

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

I'm a huge pc gamer and have been for years. I'd choose Halo over Halflife and I know many people will think I'm crazy, but it's w/e. I never found what was so amazing about HL at all. It's probably one of the most boring FPS I have ever played that got such amazing reviews. Also I absolutely HATE must characters. It takes away from the experience completely. I also hate how PC fanboys completely act as if it's the god fps. It's decent at best, but people will continue to consider it godly mainly because the original was released when it was one of the fps to stand out of the crowd.

Espada12

You know the same could be said for halo right?? I didn't think you would use your logic both ways though.

I don't think Halo is much better myself. I'm just saying I think Halo is the superior shooter compared between the 2.Also what I meant by that statement was that at the time no one had ever seen a fps like that. It was kind of in a category on its own. Similar to how GTA3 was when it was first released.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="SODRChief"]

"it's easily one of the best shooters ever, on any platform."

Read and yell out of sorrow and anger.

Hermits are the most annoying section of SW - can't accept that their "god-like" Half-Life got owned by Halo in scores and continues to fight back with weak arguments even if there is good proof that CE is excellet. Ign stated Halo changed the way FPSs are going to be measured. GS called it one of the greatest games ever. On its wiki, it said it's one of the most important and best games ever.

ACCEPT FACTS, HERMITES.

SODRChief

LOL. Does CS have Forge or Theater that you can watch your kills? lol. Does CS have vehicles? Don't embarras yourself.

And it's time to accept Halo being one of the best. It made developres release FPSs mainly for consoles, then port them to the PC and their sequels were record-breaking games.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="SODRChief"]

GameSpot on Halo -

"it's easily one of the best shooters ever, on any platform."

"Halo is a complete thrill ride from beginning to end, an experience perhaps best described as a 16-hour-plus version of the siege scene from the film Terminator 2."

"The control in Halo is excellent. It earns the nicest compliment that you can give a console first-person shooter: You won't find yourself constantly wishing for a keyboard and mouse."

9.7

Halo changed everything. Sorry, Half-Life - you weren't even close.

SODRChief

ACCEPT FACTS, HERMITES.

I'm not a hermit, but....

WHAT FACTS?

The only thing you have are a bunch fanboy opinions and obviusly a serious hate for the HL franchise

These are facts:

See the difference??

i dont think its better, i know its better just like i know the master chief is nothing but a wana-be space marineshadow_hosi

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] Halo is a great game. I could certainly accept that it is one of the best shooters on any platform. But the fact is that despite this, it scored lower than Half Life on the same platform. It can be one of the best with a 9, but Half Life is still higher up in the echelon. And Team Fortress and Counter Strike are more influential, much better made, more fun, MUCH deeper, and just overall better experiences that Halo's comparatively shallow multiplayer.pyromaniac223

LOL. Does CS have Forge or Theater that you can watch your kills? lol. Does CS have vehicles? Don't embarras yourself.

And it's time to accept Halo being one of the best. It made developres release FPSs mainly for consoles, then port them to the PC and their sequels were record-breaking games.

Those in MLG are people with real skill. Go there and they'll own your ***.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="SODRChief"]

LOL. Does CS have Forge or Theater that you can watch your kills? lol. Does CS have vehicles? Don't embarras yourself.

And it's time to accept Halo being one of the best. It made developres release FPSs mainly for consoles, then port them to the PC and their sequels were record-breaking games.

SODRChief

Those in MLG are people with real skill. Go there and they'll own your ***.

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] On the Xbox. The superior version of Halo, on the PC, got a 9. Sorry.LookAnDrolL

ACCEPT FACTS, HERMITES.

I'm not a hermit, but....

WHAT FACTS?

The only thing you have are a bunch fanboy opinions and obviusly a serious hate for the HL franchise

These are facts:

See the difference??

I don't hate the HL franchise. Who told you that?

This is a fact:

HALO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Half-Life in critical reception.

Does Halo have an SDK where you can make whatever you want? Zombie mods? RTS-FPS hybrids? Hardcore, skill based FPS gameplay that spawned mass tournaments and strategies? I'm not talking about MLG, I'm talking about people with real skill that don't need the copious amounts of auto aim that Halo relies upon.pyromaniac223

Those in MLG are people with real skill. Go there and they'll own your ***.

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] Does Halo have an SDK where you can make whatever you want? Zombie mods? RTS-FPS hybrids? Hardcore, skill based FPS gameplay that spawned mass tournaments and strategies? I'm not talking about MLG, I'm talking about people with real skill that don't need the copious amounts of auto aim that Halo relies upon.pyromaniac223

Those in MLG are people with real skill. Go there and they'll own your ***.

And you can put any CS player against a skilled Halo player, and the CS player would be embarrassed.

And the game doesn't aim for you, don't be angry because you obviosuly are bad at the game.

I like how you can say that with the picture right above you saying that Half Life scored 13 points higher.pyromaniac223

I like how you can say that with the picture right above you saying that Half Life scored 13 points higher.pyromaniac223

Read OP. Halo >>>>> HL on GS, IGN and MetaCritic and GR. Accept the facts and don't try to spin them in laughable manners.

Those are FACTS, rest is your opinion. And in my opinion, Halo owns HL's *** two billion times and then some.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]I like how you can say that with the picture right above you saying that Half Life scored 13 points higher.SparkyProtocol

Would you do it if you were him? I mean, after all, it was the game that outscored Half-Life on the major sites and on GR/MC and has been called by gaming magazines one of the greatest ever games.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]I like how you can say that with the picture right above you saying that Half Life scored 13 points higher.SparkyProtocol

Because you can't thats the WHOLE POINT, different plattaforms, DIFFERENT standars

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]I like how you can say that with the picture right above you saying that Half Life scored 13 points higher.SODRChief

Read OP. Halo >>>>> HL on GS, IGN and MetaCritic and GR. Accept the facts and don't try to spin them in laughable manners.

Those are FACTS, rest is your opinion. And in my opinion, Halo owns HL's *** two billion times and then some.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="SODRChief"]

Those in MLG are people with real skill. Go there and they'll own your ***.

SODRChief

And you can put any CS player against a skilled Halo player, and the CS player would be embarrassed.

And the game doesn't aim for you, don't be angry because you obviosuly are bad at the game.

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]I like how you can say that with the picture right above you saying that Half Life scored 13 points higher.pyromaniac223

Read OP. Halo >>>>> HL on GS, IGN and MetaCritic and GR. Accept the facts and don't try to spin them in laughable manners.

Those are FACTS, rest is your opinion. And in my opinion, Halo owns HL's *** two billion times and then some.

The fact is that Halo outscored Half-Life on MetaCritic despite having way more reviews.

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]I like how you can say that with the picture right above you saying that Half Life scored 13 points higher.LookAnDrolL

Because you can't thats the WHOLE POINT, different plattaforms, DIFFERENT standars

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] It's not skill because it relies on auto aim. It's not hard to win when the game aims for you. Guaranteed, if you put any of them in a PC fps against a hardcore CS player, they would get their asses handed to them HARD. pyromaniac223

And you can put any CS player against a skilled Halo player, and the CS player would be embarrassed.

And the game doesn't aim for you, don't be angry because you obviosuly are bad at the game.

It's not that the game takes no skills.

It's just that it's easy to learn. Nothing wrong there.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="SODRChief"]

Read OP. Halo >>>>> HL on GS, IGN and MetaCritic and GR. Accept the facts and don't try to spin them in laughable manners.

Those are FACTS, rest is your opinion. And in my opinion, Halo owns HL's *** two billion times and then some.

SODRChief

The fact is that Halo outscored Half-Life on MetaCritic despite having way more reviews.

Halo: 83%

Half Life: 96%

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="SODRChief"]

And you can put any CS player against a skilled Halo player, and the CS player would be embarrassed.

And the game doesn't aim for you, don't be angry because you obviosuly are bad at the game.

SODRChief

It's not that the game takes no skills.

It's just that it's easy to learn. Nothing wrong there.

You do know that the same person who reviewed Half-Life didn't review Halo don't you? The person who reviewed Halo could have gave Half-Life a better score or the person who reviewed Half-Life could have given Halo a lower score. Half-Life is way more revolutionary than Halo, that's a fact.

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] I'm not spinning facts. The fact is, Halo scored 13 points less on metacritic than Half Life. I'm not going to do a cross platform comparison because that takes into account the limitations of consoles. pyromaniac223

The fact is that Halo outscored Half-Life on MetaCritic despite having way more reviews.

Halo: 83%

Half Life: 96%

Half-Life: 96 with 26 reviews

Halo: 97 with 68 reviews

You're the one lying...

While a single score can be meaningless an average with a sufficiently large sample is in fact an accurate representation. It doesn't matter if you prefer HL or Halo.

I personally prefered HL however I'm not going to say it was necesarily a better game.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

The fact is that Halo outscored Half-Life on MetaCritic despite having way more reviews.

SODRChief

Halo: 83%

Half Life: 96%

Half-Life: 96 with 26 reviews

Halo: 97 with 68 reviews

You're the one lying...

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] The game aims for you. It's a hallmark of console shooters because dual analogs are pretty bad at accurate aiming without it. What takes more skill, a game where the guns have recoil, you can only take a couple of bullets before dying, and the game does not aim for you, or a game where the aiming reticle follows the enemy around of its own accord, you can soak up thirty bullets without dying, and the guns have no recoil whatsoever?pyromaniac223

It's not that the game takes no skills.

It's just that it's easy to learn. Nothing wrong there.

You just obviuosly suck at the game.

And Halo's MP being swallow or what you said is your opinion. It's known as one of the best, actually. GS said this, regardless of platform.

Review's opinions = facts?

That's strange. Also, as much as I love Halo, the series will never touch the feel and personality that the characters of Half-Life and Half-Life 2 have.

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

Or the PC fans have been severly owned and have no arguments except for "higher standards" without proof. LMAO, desperate Hermits.

SODRChief

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/halo2/index.html?tag=result;title;0

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halo2/index.html?tag=result;title;1

funny you should say that...

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2/index.html?tag=result;title;2

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/halflife2/index.html?tag=result;title;2

Consoles have higher standards and still Halo > Half-Life.

Stop now.

Community

Half-Life

Counter Strike started as a mod for Half-Life. It eventually made it big, thousands and thousands of people play a mod to half life. Team Fortress ****c is a remake made as amod for Half-Life, now TF2 is released, and people call it the best online fps ever. And don't forget mods like the new texture packs and Natural Selection and new maps with different storylines.

Halo

With Halo 3, Bungie made a map aditor, which lets you remove, relocate and edit maps along with alot of gameplay options. As impressive as it is, it does not allow for terrain modifications nor deep costumization.

CONCLUSION:

Half-life is one of the games with the biggest community, making and playing mods, new texture packs and it's the crib to the mammoth that is Counter Strike and Counter Strike: Source.

Reviews

Halo 2 on Xbox - 9.4

"Despite a rather short campaign and a disappointing storyline, Halo 2 is an exceptional shooter that frequently delivers thrilling, memorable, and unique moments..."

True, Halo 2 was awesome on the Xbox.

Halo 2 on PC - 7.0

"Halo 2 for Vista is a solid game that probably won't appeal to anyone who's played any recent high-profile PC shooters."

Halo 2 was awesome on the xbox, however PC shooters (Half-Life, CS) are alot "better" regarding the PC gameplay. Nothing wrong with Halo on the PC.

Half-Life 2 on PC - 9.2

"Half-Life 2 is a very impressive and engaging shooter, and a faithful follow-up to one of the greatest PC games of all time."

True, Half-Life 2 is seen by many as one of the best PC fps of all time.

Half-Life on Xbox - 8.3

"faithfully captures the excellent gameplay found in last year's hit PC game, but it also suffers from an erratic frame rate and there's no multiplayer."

The weak Xbox hardware means framerate issues, no AA and less resolution. Textures are very low res.

CONCLUSION:

Half-Life 2 is both awesome on PC and Xbox, Halo 2 is a VERY good game on the Xbox, however, the gameplay on the PC versions feels slow, and a bit awkward. Half Life bad score on the Xbox (even if it's still a good score) is because of the Xbox hardware limitation, not the game itself. Halo 2 bad score on the Xbox is because of the game, not the hardware.

Awards and Legacy:

Half-Life:

Half-Life's public reception was overwhelmingly positive in terms of reviews, acclaim and sales. As of November 16, 2004, eight million copies of the gamehad been sold, while 9.3 million copies had been sold by 2008. The game had won over 50 Game of the Year awards.

Half-Life was critically acclaimed, earning an overall score of 96% on review collection website Metacritic. IGN described it as "a tour de force in game design, the definitive single player game in a first person shooter." IGN has also respected the game as one of the most influential video games. GameSpot claimed that it was the "closest thing to a revolutionary step the genre has ever taken." GameSpot inducted Half-Life into their "Greatest Games of All Time" list in May 2007. In 2004, GameSpy held a Title Fight, in which readers voted on what they thought was the "greatest game of all time", and Half-Life was the overall winner of the survey. In the November 1999, October 2001, and April 2005 issues of PC Gamer, Half-Life was named "Best Game of All Time"/"Best PC Game Ever." Allgame said "It isn't everyday that you come across a game that totally revolutionizes an entire genre, but Half-Life has done just that." Hot Games commented on the realness of the game, and how the environment "all adds up to a totally immersive gaming experience that makes everything else look quite shoddy in comparison." Gamers Depot found the game engaging, stating that they have "yet to play a more immersive game period."

Despite the praise that the game has received, there have also been some complaints. The Electric Playground said that Half-Life was an "immersive and engaging entertainment experience", but said that this only lasted for the first half of the game, explaining that the game "peaked too soon."

Guinness World Records awarded Half-Life with the world record for "Best-Selling First-Person Shooter of All Time (PC)" in the Guinness World Records: Gamer's Edition 2008.

Halo:

Halo was critically acclaimed and received an overall score of 97% on Metacritic. Electronic Gaming Monthly observed, "This game has me totally mesmerized ... [It] engages your intellect on a whole different level", and of its multiplayer, "GoldenEye was the multiplayer standard for console first-person shooters... It has been surpassed," awarding the game a perfect score. GameSpot claimed that "Halo's single-player game is worth picking up an Xbox for alone", commenting, "Not only is this easily the best of the Xbox launch games, but it's easily one of the best shooters ever, on any platform."best shooters ever, on any platform." IGN remarked similarly, calling Halo a "can't miss, no-brainer, sure thing, five star, triple A game." Edge called it "the most important launch game for any console, ever", and awarded it a 10 out of 10 score, only the fourth such rating in the magazine's 12-year history. The game received numerous Game of the Year awards. According to Xbox.com, the game received a total of 48 awards. Among the specific aspects that reviewers praised were the balance of weapons, the role of drivable vehicles, and the artificial intelligence of enemies.

CONCLUSION:

Half-Life wins on influence and legacy. Scores, are pretty much equal giving Halo a slghtly better score. As of 2008, Half-Life is the best selling fps of all time (PC), however, Halo was also extremly praised.

All other things outseide of this are opinions, even scores are opinions of a single individual. However, i think (and i'm pretty sure most people) think Hal-Life is a better game by alot.

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] Really? Because now you are outright lying.

Halo: 83%

Half Life: 96%

pyromaniac223

Half-Life: 96 with 26 reviews

Halo: 97 with 68 reviews

You're the one lying...

DAMAGE CONTROL

"Cross platform comparisons don't count."

Lol, worst argument I have HEARD today.

I can compare consoles, too.

Halo: 97.

Half-Life: 90.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="SODRChief"]

It's not that the game takes no skills.

It's just that it's easy to learn. Nothing wrong there.

SODRChief

You just obviuosly suck at the game.

And Halo's MP being swallow or what you said is your opinion. It's known as one of the best, actually. GS said this, regardless of platform.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="SODRChief"]

Half-Life: 96 with 26 reviews

Halo: 97 with 68 reviews

You're the one lying...

SODRChief

DAMAGE CONTROL

"Cross platform comparisons don't count."

Lol, worst argument I have HEARD today.

I can compare consoles, too.

Halo: 97.

Half-Life: 90.

darkguy_101,

What's your point? We know Halo >>>> HL in scores on major sites and on GR/MC. I posted these facts on OP.

Also, you forgot:

"Many game magazines have praised Halo as one of the best and most important games of all time. The game's popularity has led to labels such as "Halo clone" and "Halo killer", applied respectively to games either similar to or anticipated to be better than it."

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

The fact is that Halo outscored Half-Life on MetaCritic despite having way more reviews.

SODRChief

Halo: 83%

Half Life: 96%

Half-Life: 96 with 26 reviews

Halo: 97 with 68 reviews

You're the one lying...

darkguy_101,

What's your point? We know Halo >>>> HL in scores on major sites and on GR/MC. I posted these facts on OP.

Also, you forgot:

"Many game magazines have praised Halo as one of the best and most important games of all time. The game's popularity has led to labels such as "Halo clone" and "Halo killer", applied respectively to games either similar to or anticipated to be better than it."

SODRChief

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] Sorry, I consider auto aim and no recoil as no skill.pyromaniac223

You just obviuosly suck at the game.

And Halo's MP being swallow or what you said is your opinion. It's known as one of the best, actually. GS said this, regardless of platform.

Too bad GS called Halo's MP "one the best multiplayer action experiences available on any platform" and too bad Halo's online MP is one of the most played on the planet.

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

darkguy_101,

What's your point? We know Halo >>>> HL in scores on major sites and on GR/MC. I posted these facts on OP.

Also, you forgot:

"Many game magazines have praised Halo as one of the best and most important games of all time. The game's popularity has led to labels such as "Halo clone" and "Halo killer", applied respectively to games either similar to or anticipated to be better than it."

pyromaniac223

But hey, Half-Life wasn't SO GOOD that it spawned names such as HL clone or HL killer, right.......?

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="SODRChief"]

You just obviuosly suck at the game.

And Halo's MP being swallow or what you said is your opinion. It's known as one of the best, actually. GS said this, regardless of platform.

SODRChief

Too bad GS called Halo's MP "one the best multiplayer action experiences available on any platform" and too bad Halo's online MP is one of the most played on the planet.

lol @ the 13 year olds! "buh buh buh! TEH HALO!!!"

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="SODRChief"]

darkguy_101,

What's your point? We know Halo >>>> HL in scores on major sites and on GR/MC. I posted these facts on OP.

Also, you forgot:

"Many game magazines have praised Halo as one of the best and most important games of all time. The game's popularity has led to labels such as "Halo clone" and "Halo killer", applied respectively to games either similar to or anticipated to be better than it."

SODRChief

But hey, Half-Life wasn't SO GOOD that it spawned names such as HL clone or HL killer, right.......?

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="SODRChief"]

Read OP. Halo >>>>> HL on GS, IGN and MetaCritic and GR. Accept the facts and don't try to spin them in laughable manners.

Those are FACTS, rest is your opinion. And in my opinion, Halo owns HL's *** two billion times and then some.

SODRChief

The fact is that Halo outscored Half-Life on MetaCritic despite having way more reviews.

which halo? definitely not the PC version of halo...? and if you're talking about the xbox version, I wonder how halflife would have scored being on a console, rather than on PC.

also, I think what the TC was trying to show is that, even though half-life was made 3+ years before halo: combat evolved it barely got outscored. 3 years is a long time.

half-life came out in 98. The PC version of halo came out 5+ years later and scored even worse. that's pretty bad if you ask me. FPS games (IMO) are way better on PC than on console because they aren't as watered down. There's a lot more room for customization and they have bigger learning curves.

Halo did do one thing right though, and that was making the FPS genre easy and watered down enough for everyone to play.

darkguy_101,

What's your point? We know Halo >>>> HL in scores on major sites and on GR/MC. I posted these facts on OP.

Also, you forgot:

"Many game magazines have praised Halo as one of the best and most important games of all time. The game's popularity has led to labels such as "Halo clone" and "Halo killer", applied respectively to games either similar to or anticipated to be better than it."

SODRChief

My point is that they are pretty much the same. Also, you seem to forget:

GameSpot inducted Half-Life into their "Greatest Games of All Time" list in May 2007. In 2004, GameSpy held a Title Fight, in which readers voted on what they thought was the "greatest game of all time", and Half-Life was the overall winner of the survey. In the November 1999, October 2001, and April 2005 issues of PC Gamer, Half-Life was named "Best Game of All Time"/"Best PC Game Ever." Allgame said "It isn't everyday that you come across a game that totally revolutionizes an entire genre, but Half-Life has done just that." Hot Games commented on the realness of the game, and how the environment "all adds up to a totally immersive gaming experience that makes everything else look quite shoddy in comparison." Gamers Depot found the game engaging, stating that they have "yet to play a more immersive game period."

Guinness World Records awarded Half-Life with the world record for "Best-Selling First-Person Shooter of All Time (PC)" in the Guinness World Records: Gamer's Edition 2008.

..

when people think halo, they think the xbox version of the game. Thats what the TC is using to compare, not the PC version. This is really just a hard comparison since Halo came out awhile after half life, and there both on different gaming platforms,(PC AND XBOX). I like both, but i liked halo 1 more

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] I would say it's very important. It had huge mainstream appeal to the console audience who were starved of good FPS. It sold a lot from lack of options, and many companies tried to clone it so they could make money too. Quality, it's good, but not Half Life or Half Life 2 good.pyromaniac223

But hey, Half-Life wasn't SO GOOD that it spawned names such as HL clone or HL killer, right.......?

Whya re you saying it's all about mainstream appeal? Maybe it's just because it wasn't good enough and didn't make competitors jealous enough or something!

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] I'm not spinning facts. The fact is, Halo scored 13 points less on metacritic than Half Life. I'm not going to do a cross platform comparison because that takes into account the limitations of consoles. Some-Mist

The fact is that Halo outscored Half-Life on MetaCritic despite having way more reviews.

which halo? definitely not the PC version of halo...? and if you're talking about the xbox version, I wonder how halflife would have scored being on a console, rather than on PC.

also, I think what the TC was trying to show is that, even though half-life was made 3+ years before halo: combat evolved it barely got outscored. 3 years is a long time.

half-life came out in 98. The PC version of halo came out 5+ years later and scored even worse. that's pretty bad if you ask me. FPS games (IMO) are way better on PC than on console because they aren't as watered down. There's a lot more room for customization and they have bigger learning curves.

Halo did do one thing right though, and that was making the FPS genre easy and watered down enough for everyone to play.

Half-Life is on consoles and has been reviewed, it scored lower.

And it was good of Ce to score such high since stndards were raised

[QUOTE="Some-Mist"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

The fact is that Halo outscored Half-Life on MetaCritic despite having way more reviews.

SODRChief

which halo? definitely not the PC version of halo...? and if you're talking about the xbox version, I wonder how halflife would have scored being on a console, rather than on PC.

also, I think what the TC was trying to show is that, even though half-life was made 3+ years before halo: combat evolved it barely got outscored. 3 years is a long time.

half-life came out in 98. The PC version of halo came out 5+ years later and scored even worse. that's pretty bad if you ask me. FPS games (IMO) are way better on PC than on console because they aren't as watered down. There's a lot more room for customization and they have bigger learning curves.

Halo did do one thing right though, and that was making the FPS genre easy and watered down enough for everyone to play.

Half-Life is on consoles and has been reviewed, it scored lower.

And it was good of Ce to score such high since stndards were raised