I'll be glad when Sony is gone, they have brought nothing to gaming really

Selfiwnage I also specified first yet you mention first again. Also going back to before crash isn't 2nd party, it was an advertisement agreement for licensing like Sony had with FF7 for awhile, which was on pc... Lol suicide might be your only option.CommanderpeaceC

No, you didn't. You said:

THEIR exclusives? Did not much of anything. Third party however.CommanderpeaceC

Crash's run under Naughty Dog was an exclusive to the Playstation brand. Do we need to carry your embarassment on?

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Are we gonna continue to go in circles? More accurately, are you going to continue to go in circles?

Actually Sony didnt even bring itself to gaming. Nintendo brought them in.

[QUOTE="CommanderpeaceC"]Selfiwnage I also specified first yet you mention first again. Also going back to before crash isn't 2nd party, it was an advertisement agreement for licensing like Sony had with FF7 for awhile, which was on pc... Lol suicide might be your only option.lundy86_4

No, you didn't. You said:

THEIR exclusives? Did not much of anything. Third party however.CommanderpeaceC

Crash's run under Naughty Dog was an exclusive to the Playstation brand. Do we need to carry your embarassment on?

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Are we gonna continue to go in circles? More accurately, are you going to continue to go in circles?

Have you stopped talking, finally?

And what has MS brought to gaming...I seriously don't know..layton2012

A lot of speculation and wishful at that.

A gaming console is becoming an archaic concept nowadays, who can say what will console gaming be in a few years or if it's even considered consoles at that point.

If PS4 is just another Playstation I won't be buying it. I'm just holdng out in the hopes of JRPGs returning to the big screen like they once did, other than that I'm becoming more and more adjusted to PC gaming.

Really? Sony has brought NOTHING to the table?

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Awesome imageBlabadon

How old are you 12? MS brought more to gaming then Sony? LMAO really?

Sony made gaming main stream , it wasnt untill the PS brand when gaming went from a multi million dollar industry into a multi billion dollar industry. They were the first to merge gaming , movies and music in one simple device. Its funny people say sony copied MS when MS is trying to what Sony was doing in 2006 and that was taking over the living room. Sony along with Nintendo is one of the most influential companies in gaming history anyone who argues otherwise is simply a troll or brain dead.

[QUOTE="layton2012"]And what has MS brought to gaming...I seriously don't know..BrunoBRS

Sony popularized mature gaming. The market was expanded further than anytime previous to ps1's release. Gaming was thought to be a kiddy hobby prior to ps1. I think its safe to say Sony made a much much bigger stamp on gaming history then ms will ever hope to.

Just going to leave this here.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="layton2012"]And what has MS brought to gaming...I seriously don't know..NineTailedGoku

Sony popularized mature gaming. The market was expanded further than anytime previous to ps1's release. Gaming was thought to be a kiddy hobby prior to ps1. I think its safe to say Sony made a much much bigger stamp on gaming history then ms will ever hope to.

Wrong that would be nintendo ! nintendo single handidly brought gaming back to its feet !mariokart64fan

Wrong. Gaming for the longest time was getting pidgeoned wholed as a medium over crowded with "kiddy games." Sony was the first company to actually market their console to the "hardcore gamerz" that people hold in high esteem today. The fact that Sony dominated the market for well over a decade in this regard is the reason why a lot of the games we play managed to become markettable on consoles. It wasn't until Nintendo hit it big again with the Wii that we saw a shift in the market.

and then some , sony just copied and went the quick way , once ps3 came people started waking up and smelling the coffee- and i applaud them , because if sony kept being the leader we wouldnt be this far! all sony has is changing media ,(cartridges to compact disc from compact disc to dvd from dvd to bluray)mariokart64fan

Bull. If Sony being the market leader was so damaging, than Microsoft wouldn't have tried so hard to reemulate the PS2 at the start of the gen. It's not a coincidence that 360 started off as the console to go to when it came genres like JRPGS. Oversaturation and Nintendo being the only console to actually do something new was what caused the change, not some wake up about Sony.

im sorry but thats about all i can find about them , the rest of their stuff was already done (move-wiimote) ps1 analog came 1998 n64-1996 n64 rumble 97 ps1 rumble 98 controller design was also similar to snes just with added grips so if you wannaa sit back and make those claims ds out sold ps2 --- and wii this gen sold more then ps3 360 and contributed to the kenict and move being here , and gaming actually being accessible to everyone , sony did none of that the mainstream could not afford a 600 ps3!

And Nintendo getting Miis, Analogs on their handhelds, and partnering up with companies like Netlfix were all their own innvation.

Wrong that would be nintendo ! nintendo single handidly brought gaming back to its feet ! and then some , sony just copied and went the quick way , once ps3 came people started waking up and smelling the coffee- and i applaud them , because if sony kept being the leader we wouldnt be this far! all sony has is changing media ,(cartridges to compact disc from compact disc to dvd from dvd to bluray) im sorry but thats about all i can find about them , the rest of their stuff was already done (move-wiimote) ps1 analog came 1998 n64-1996 n64 rumble 97 ps1 rumble 98 controller design was also similar to snes just with added grips so if you wannaa sit back and make those claims ds out sold ps2 --- and wii this gen sold more then ps3 360 and contributed to the kenict and move being here , and gaming actually being accessible to everyone , sony did none of that the mainstream could not afford a 600 ps3! mariokart64fan

How old are you 12? MS brought more to gaming then Sony? LMAO really?

Sony made gaming main stream , it wasnt untill the PS brand when gaming went from a multi million dollar industry into a multi billion dollar industry. They were the first to merge gaming , movies and music in one simple device. Its funny people say sony copied MS when MS is trying to what Sony was doing in 2006 and that was taking over the living room. Sony along with Nintendo is one of the most influential companies in gaming history anyone who argues otherwise is simply a troll or brain dead.

AM-Gamer

They might as well be gone. The PS3 has done NOTHING innovative this generation. Now cows, please list all the innovation that led to the competition scrambling to copy "features" of the PS3.

I just think its inevitable that Sony will decrease their presence in many sectors. Just a matter of time.

[QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

They've brought nothing to gaming, except two of the greatest consoles to grace the medium. Beyond that, how about the hundreds of IPs that have existed due to them?

This is nothing more than a wannabe-hipster post. Guess what? We've all heard of it!!

GreySeal9

Those IP's, mostly third party, would have existed on other consoles. Sony simply bought the market and third party devs sucked it up because it was the only choice left to them. They tried to buy it again with the PS3, they took such a hit, this time it failed. They did kill the, arguably, better HD-DVD format on the way though.

That is an assumption, not a certainty. Also, Sony offered third parties distinct advantages over developing for Nintendo.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="layton2012"]And what has MS brought to gaming...I seriously don't know..NineTailedGoku

Sony popularized mature gaming. The market was expanded further than anytime previous to ps1's release. Gaming was thought to be a kiddy hobby prior to ps1. I think its safe to say Sony made a much much bigger stamp on gaming history then ms will ever hope to.

[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] it popularized online multiplayer on consoles. and it could be argued that they popularized console shooters too.Phazevariance

Sony popularized mature gaming. The market was expanded further than anytime previous to ps1's release. Gaming was thought to be a kiddy hobby prior to ps1. I think its safe to say Sony made a much much bigger stamp on gaming history then ms will ever hope to.

PS2 was one of the best experiences for me, other than that I agree.

I agree the Ps1 and ps2 were good systems. PS3 is trash in my opinion. Sony hasn't fallen hard the last 5 years.

The classics of gaming, the highest rated and critically acclaimed titles of all time, did not come from Sony and nor will they.

1080pOnly

am sorry, say waaaa...? (grabbing meta and only counting the highest rated game in a series)

ICO (90)

SotC (91)

Journey (92)

Uncharted 2 (96)

LBP (95)

GT (96)

GoW (94)

Ratchet & Clank 2 (91)

Jak and Dexter (90)

What MS bring to the table?

Halo (97)

Forza 2 (92)

yeah...

now crawl back to your cave troll

Great arguments so far people. Really classy. Pretty much proves my point I think.

1080pOnly

hey OP, wanna know a little secret? see the double analogue standard for three generation in a row? *pst* sony was the first doing it

but yeah, they dint bring nothing to gaming... at all :roll:

Nah.

The fathers of gaming were (in no particular order) Atari, Microsoft, Amstrad, Sinclair, Commodore, Apple, Sega and Nintendo.

1080pOnly

k.

The Tc is Right They copy most of there stuff from nintendo

you know why Sony's the best thing that has ever happened to this industry? Because they dare to do stuff.

They dared to give a Triple A budget to Quantum Dreams to make an incredibly niche game like Heavy Rain and now Beyond 2 Souls with Ellen Page. They dared to make a game as shocking and controversial as God of War. Sony is amazing because they dare to create new franchises and new IPs like: Shadows of the Colossus, Little Big Planet, The Last of Us, MotorStorm, Uncharted and inFamous. Sony is great because they made an online service comparable to XBL and they offer it for free! Sony is great because they listen to their fans.

To say that Sony's the worst thing in gaming is to admit that you're a delusional fanboy of the highest caliber. Every time you play your favorite FPS give thanks to Sony for the dual-analog sticks and the 4 shoulder buttons that are now the default standard to play these kind of games on consoles.

[QUOTE="layton2012"]And what has MS brought to gaming...I seriously don't know..BrunoBRS

all that was going to happen sooner or later anyway. Beside RRoD, pay to play online and DLC M$ hasn't really brought anything of relevance to this industry. They only made it worse....

If we're talking about the last decade then yah I'd agree.

In comparison to Nintendo, and Microsoft, Sony is not doing anything to progress the industry along.

Nintendo HEAVILY influenced hardware design on two fronts; the DS with its touch screen paved the way for all future handheld gaming devices, and the Wii with its motion controls brought an entirely new way to play to millions of people, and influenced both Sony and Microsoft to design their own devices.

Microsoft brought Xbox Live which entirely re-shaped the console industry, and how games and content are distributed and played together.

As for Sony the last thing they brought to gaming that actually pushed it forward I'd say is dual analogs, but that was in 1997.

If we're talking about the last decade then yah I'd agree.

In comparison to Nintendo, and Microsoft, Sony is not doing anything to progress the industry along.

Nintendo HEAVILY influenced hardware design on two fronts; the DS with its touch screen paved the way for all future handheld gaming devices, and the Wii with its motion controls brought an entirely new way to play to millions of people, and influenced both Sony and Microsoft to design their own devices.

Microsoft brought Xbox Live which entirely re-shaped the console industry, and how games and content are distributed and played together.

As for Sony the last thing they brought to gaming that actually pushed it forward I'd say is dual analogs, but that was in 1997.

Ly_the_Fairy

Sony made console gaming more mainstream than any company ever. Twice, that at it, and they have one of the highest rated games of all time in Uncharted 2. I thank them for that.Blabadon

No, that was Nintendo.

But to say that they did nothing for the medium is absolutely hilarious.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="layton2012"]And what has MS brought to gaming...I seriously don't know..Gue1

all that was going to happen sooner or later anyway. Beside RRoD, pay to play online and DLC M$ hasn't really brought anything of relevance to this industry. They only made it worse....

[QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

The classics of gaming, the highest rated and critically acclaimed titles of all time, did not come from Sony and nor will they.

Vatusus

am sorry, say waaaa...? (grabbing meta and only counting the highest rated game in a series)

ICO (90)

SotC (91)

Journey (92)

Uncharted 2 (96)

LBP (95)

GT (96)

GoW (94)

Ratchet & Clank 2 (91)

Jak and Dexter (90)

What MS bring to the table?

Halo (97)

Forza 2 (92)

yeah...

now crawl back to your cave troll

Sony, the great pretender. The stealer of ideas and destroyer of the sacred. They have brought nothing new to gaming, they tried to turn 'game' consoles into 'home entertainment' movie players, they tried and failed to emulate the PC in a 'closed' environment. Simply awful.

The fathers of gaming were (in no particular order) Atari, Microsoft, Amstrad, Sinclair, Commodore, Apple, Sega and Nintendo. They popularised gaming, they brought us the first real home consoles or produced operating systems and PC's designed with gaming in mind. Sony copied, and were successful, but brought nothing to the table that hadn't been done before, all the while using their muscle and marketing power to push others with smaller budgets to one side. They nearly succeeded in their quest for total domination and the smothering of innovation, but people saw through the lies eventually.

The classics of gaming, the highest rated and critically acclaimed titles of all time, did not come from Sony and nor will they. Ever. Oh they had a well loved console or two but I say that had they stayed out of the market someone else, someone better, would have created something more wonderous. When they bow out next gen I will be glad. Someone new, someone with real ideas, will step in and fill the gap. Exciting times :).

Don't forget, historically accurate documentation tells us that giant crabs will attack your weak spot, for massive damage, if you disagree.

1080pOnly

Maybe Sony brough something last gen. But this gen not so much. All they are about is stealing peoples idea. Terrible failure that is the Smash brothers clone. They stole ideas from Xbox like achievements. They tried to copy Wii with their terrible motion controls. I could go on and on. PS3 was a travesty this gen.

Maybe Sony brough something last gen. But this gen not so much. All they are about is stealing peoples idea. Terrible failure that is the Smash brothers clone. They stole ideas from Xbox like achievements. They tried to copy Wii with their terrible motion controls. I could go on and on. PS3 was a travesty this gen.

jimmypsn

Maybe Sony brough something last gen. But this gen not so much. All they are about is stealing peoples idea. Terrible failure that is the Smash brothers clone. They stole ideas from Xbox like achievements. They tried to copy Wii with their terrible motion controls. I could go on and on. PS3 was a travesty this gen.

jimmypsn

you'd think they would stop stealing everyone's ideas after their sad copies turned out to be failures time after time.

Everything that Sony has touched this gen has turned to garbage. The PS3, the Vita, PSP GO, Xperia line of phones, their PS phone, their TVs. Absolute failure. Can the cows not see this? Is their a shroud of fog covering their eyes. Open your eyes already. Sony brand is damaged badly. The very existence of Sony is being leveraged right now as we speak in the world of Business.

Everything that Sony has touched this gen has turned to garbage. The PS3, the Vita, PSP GO, Xperia line of phones, their PS phone, their TVs. Absolute failure. Can the cows not see this? Is their a shroud of fog covering their eyes. Open your eyes already. Sony brand is damaged badly. The very existence of Sony is being leveraged right now as we speak in the world of Business.

jimmypsn

The ps3 started out dead last and is even with the 360. As for the tv's your a joke sony has the only 4k hdtv that I know of. The vita is the best hand held and already has some AAA games for it. The other stuff I don't know if it was any good who knows it might have been rubbish. In general if you buy electronics from sony it is money well spent. I still have a sony gdm-fw900 24 inch monitor hooked up to my gaming pc and I have yet to see a better picture on the new led monitors at any price. The only bad thing about sony is the price other than that every sony product I ever brought has been kick ass.

Sony has taken more risks and has invested in more great talent than any publisher I know. You would never see games like Heavy Rain, ICO or Shadow of the Colossus on any other platform.