Insomniac needs to shut their mouth.

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#1 Fhiz
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There's evidence all around us I think, of certain games that have borrowed from Ratchet and Clank. One that we're even extremely flattered by is Super Mario Galaxy, with their spherical worlds; we did spherical worlds in Going Commando, and Up Your Arsenal. It would be amazing to think that Miyamoto-san thought that was so cool that he wanted to incorporate it into Mario Galaxy. Granted, he's doing it in a different way, but it's still a spherical world, so it's flattering to see those sorts of things.

SO STUPID. No... just no. You know what I got to say from that? They borrowed from Super Mario 64 and it's whole 3D thing.

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#2 zachdragon
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to differnt games no one cares
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#3 batistafan99
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lol it's like they invented the idea of a sphere. it's called Super Mario Galaxy, do they want square shaped planets?
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#4 coakroach
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They borrowed from Super Mario 64 and it's whole 3D thing.

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Now ya just bein silly

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#6 Tnasty11
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you know they didn't say anything bad about SMG
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#7 Led_poison
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Yeah, people copy people, its bound to happen but its all about execution ie Gears and Halo 3

btw you got a link for that quote?

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#8 ChrisMun
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There's evidence all around us I think, of certain games that have borrowed from Ratchet and Clank. One that we're even extremely flattered by is Super Mario Galaxy, with their spherical worlds; we did spherical worlds in Going Commando, and Up Your Arsenal. It would be amazing to think that Miyamoto-san thought that was so cool that he wanted to incorporate it into Mario Galaxy. Granted, he's doing it in a different way, but it's still a spherical world, so it's flattering to see those sorts of things.

SO STUPID. No... just no. You know what I got to say from that? They borrowed from Super Mario 64 and it's whole 3D thing.

FlawlessSeasons

I'd like to see what Nintendo has to say about that. Especially the Father of Mario. And everyone took something from Mario 64. That's a big no brainer. Mario 64 is was revolutionized 3D gaming.

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#9 hobbit93
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another sony dev thinks they are superior...:?
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#10 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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wow, they act as if they invented the genre of 3-d platformer, there more like stealing from nintendo as mario is the father of 2-d home platformers, and 3-d platformers in general.
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#11 THE_Rob_Himself
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Insomniac must still think the earth is flat, and the universe revolves around the earth.
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#12 THE_Rob_Himself
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insomniac shouldnt even be mentioned near the skill that is nontendo with platforming.

considering they are pretty average, they shouldnt gloat.

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#13 JimmyT2
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Where would Mario be today without ratchet and clank? I think Nintendo really needs to thank them for what they have done for Mario and the entire gaming industry! :D
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#14 DaysAirlines
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Nintendo copies Sony again. First motion control and now this.
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#15 WithoutGraceXII
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yea, insomniac actually discovered worlds were spheres. everyone was using cubes before that
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#16 Apathetic-Irony
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Insomniac was not being negative with Super Mario Galaxy. The real problem with that quote is how arrogant it shows Insomniac (or at least that man representing them) really is. Just because Mario Galaxy uses sphere worlds, they instantly assume they got the idea from Ratchet and Clank?

No, they are not saying anybody copies them. They are actually flattered, but they don't have any evidence that R&C inspired Mario. Let alone the fact Miyamoto has been playing with sphere concepts ever since "Mario 128", which was what? 4... 5 years ago? It's just arrogance -- nothing more, nothing less.

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#17 Runningflame570
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Insomniac can basically say whatever the hell they please. Do you find it impossible that Miyamoto may have gotten some inspiration from elsewhere?

All the greats in any art form get inspiration from somewhere, while I don't necessarily think Miyamoto got it from Ratchet & Clank its a possibility.

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#18 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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Where would Mario be today without ratchet and clank? I think Nintendo really needs to thank them for what they have done for Mario and the entire gaming industry! :DJimmyT2

Where would Mario be today without ratchet and clank? I think Nintendo really needs to thank them for what they have done for Mario and the entire gaming industry! :DJimmyT2
Nintendo copies Sony again. First motion control and now this.DaysAirlines

i pray to god you are both being sarcastic >_>

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#19 Xbox360Fanboy12
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Ratchet will get a 7.5.

Quote me on this.

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#21 JimmyT2
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yea, insomniac actually discovered worlds were spheres. everyone was using cubes before thatWithoutGraceXII

I think the Cell should also get some credit. Without it rendering spheres would not be possible. I'm surprised Nintendo has been able to reproduce them on the Wii, they must be using some kind visual trick to make a cube look like a sphere.

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#22 _AsasN_
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another sony dev thinks they are superior...:?hobbit93


Yeah, kind of like the numerous other devs who do the exact same thing. It's not them thinking they're superior either. These devs are just talking about their creations, and how they may influence others. Devs borrow ideas from eachother all the time. I guess you also missed the part where he said "It would be amazing to think that Miyamoto-san thought that was so cool that he wanted to incorporate it into Mario Galaxy"
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#23 redCloudJ7
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Nintendo copies Sony again. First motion control and now this.DaysAirlines

:lol: Your sarcasm never ceases to make me laugh.

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#24 Runningflame570
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wow, they act as if they invented the genre of 3-d platformer, there more like stealing from nintendo as mario is the father of 2-d home platformers, and 3-d platformers in general.darkspineslayer

BULL****! What you are thinking of is Space Panic. Lets not give credit where credit isn't due.

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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Nintendo copies Sony again. First motion control and now this.redCloudJ7

:lol: Your sarcasm never ceases to make me laugh.

I really appreciate that.
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#27 THE_Rob_Himself
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[QUOTE="redCloudJ7"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Nintendo copies Sony again. First motion control and now this.DaysAirlines

:lol: Your sarcasm never ceases to make me laugh.

I really appreciate that.

:lol: nice sarcasm! :lol:

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#28 DaysAirlines
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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="redCloudJ7"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Nintendo copies Sony again. First motion control and now this.THE_Rob_Himself

:lol: Your sarcasm never ceases to make me laugh.

I really appreciate that.

:lol: nice sarcasm! :lol:

High Fives all around.
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#29 Fhiz
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[QUOTE="FlawlessSeasons"]

They borrowed from Super Mario 64 and it's whole 3D thing.

coakroach

Now ya just bein silly

yeah that was the point

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#30 azshorty2003
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another sony dev thinks they are superior...:?hobbit93

its the only positive thing being said about sony and the ps3 right now, so they have to gloat about it.

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lol it's like they invented the idea of a sphere. it's called Super Mario Galaxy, do they want square shaped planets?batistafan99

Actually I believe that they do have those, and they have doughnut shaped planets too!!!! :o

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#33 DSgamer64
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Insomniac could not make a great game to save their lives, Rachet and Clank has gone down the crapper since the first game. Talk about complete rehashing. And I am pretty sure Nintendo was developing Super Mario Galaxy about 3 years ago if not more.
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#34 ferolune
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uh...smg doesnt look new in any way so this makes sense.
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#35 Sully28
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another sony dev thinks they are superior...:?hobbit93
I have yet to find a game made by insomniac that wasent awsome. I have to say they are pretty superior. Not the best, but they deserve alot of respect.
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#36 ken_gamer
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Ratchet will get a 7.5.

Quote me on this.

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Ratchet will get a 7.5.

Quote me on this.

Xbox360Fanboy12

I'll be happy too.

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#38 ken_gamer
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Insomniac could not make a great game to save their lives, Rachet and Clank has gone down the crapper since the first game. Talk about complete rehashing. And I am pretty sure Nintendo was developing Super Mario Galaxy about 3 years ago if not more.DSgamer64
Says the sheep. :roll:
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#39 ferolune
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[QUOTE="Xbox360Fanboy12"]

Ratchet will get a 7.5.

Quote me on this.

ken_gamer
I won't bother, because that won't happen.

you quoted him.
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#40 _AsasN_
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Insomniac could not make a great game to save their lives, Rachet and Clank has gone down the crapper since the first game. Talk about complete rehashing. And I am pretty sure Nintendo was developing Super Mario Galaxy about 3 years ago if not more.DSgamer64


Rehashing??? lol Super Mario, while having some decent games is the all time Milkage franchise.

You're fully entitled to your opinion, buta whole lot of people disagree with your comment about R & C. I personally don't play that many platformers, but the R & C series is one of the better ones.

Now that you've said Insomniac can't make a great game, are you going to show them how?? Didn't think so.
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#41 Soulja_West
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Ratchet will get a 7.5.

Quote me on this.

Xbox360Fanboy12

I'll be happy to.

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#42 BobHipJames
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Insomniac makes fantastic games, the Ratchet and Clank series is fantastic, the next game (according to the demo) will be excellent, and you all need to shut your mouths.

You're all spewing the same sort of bullcrap x10 that the person quoted in the OP is saying.

"Insomniac makes average games," "Ratchet went downhill after the first one," "ToD will get 7.5, quote me on this,"

SHUT. YOUR. MOUTHS. FTLOG.

Thanks.

Yeah, the quote was dumb, but Insomniac makes awesome games, and no quote, no matter how dumb, is ever going to change that.

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I think you need to chill, through the way that they say that SMG borrow spherical worlds from R&C sound like as if as R&C was the start of spherical worlds.
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#44 ken_gamer
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[QUOTE="ken_gamer"][QUOTE="Xbox360Fanboy12"]

Ratchet will get a 7.5.

Quote me on this.

ferolune
I won't bother, because that won't happen.

you quoted him.

Let's not try to act like a smart alec here. ;)
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#45 BobHipJames
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I think you need to chill, through the way that they say that SMG borrow spherical worlds from R&C sound like as if as R&C was the start of spherical worlds.Wanderer5

No, that's not what they were saying at all. Spherical, miniature worlds that can be traversed as though one were running along a giant globe....not necessarily spherical worlds, aka, the planet earth, since that would encompass literally every game in existence.

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#46 XenoNinja
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insomniac stole 3-D, analogue & rumble from Nintendo.
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#47 club-sandwich
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wow... those guys indeed need to shut up.. :| thanks to Nintendo gaming is what it is today.
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#48 Soulja_West
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insomniac stole 3-D, analogue & rumble from Nintendo.XenoNinja

I should siggy what you've just said.

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#49 Soulja_West
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wow... those guys indeed need to shut up.. :| thanks to Nintendo gaming is what it is today.club-sandwich

Lets not forget about Microsoft and Sony.

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#50 ken_gamer
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wow... those guys indeed need to shut up.. :| thanks to Nintendo gaming is what it is today.club-sandwich
You mean a market of soccer moms and grandpas buying minigames? Geeeeee...that's greaaaaaat....