Is it possible to build a 400$ PC and run games as powerfull as Killzone 2?

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]um, PS3 is $300. and lol at the hermits not including windows that which cost more than the cards they have listed.foxhound_fox

it's truth once you add "legally" at the end ;)

Silenthps

[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]

Why the hell would you need a $400 power supply? Shurely a power supply that is between $50 and $100 would service just fine? What the hell are you running? HAL 9000 or something?

[/QUOTE My PC specs 1. Asus Crosshair 2 formula(motherboard) 2. 8 GB Corsair Dominator 3. 2x GTX260 core 216 896MB DDR3 4. AMD Phenom 2 X4 940 My video cards require over 1000w alone.djsifer01

Holy Christ man that is one powerful setup. :shock: How much did that cost in total?

stop lying... dont end up like ps_john

Case/HDD/MOBO/Windows/KB/M/RAM/DVD$269

CPU$49.99

PSU$19.99

GPU$54.99

GRAND TOTAL: $394.94

Features Include

• Dual Core Intel CPU E33002.5ghz
• Windows Vista Basic 32-bit
• 400watt PSU
• 2GB DDR2 ram
• 160GB HDD 7200rpm
• ATI HD4650 GPU 512mb
• Keyboard and Mouse
• Case
• Socket 775 MOBO
• DVD Drive
• etc.

thats all.

[QUOTE="iliatay"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Plugs into the same monitor that the PC would have. Next, please.painguy1

what he siad and also, you have a PC monitor? oh how wonderful how much did that PC cost you?

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]
You can't play a console without a television. And those cost at least $100-150 for a 13" CRT. Then if you want HD, you'll be up in the range of $500-750. That's a lot more than a PC that runs Linux and Wine. Plus, most university students can get Windows for free. And most pre-built computers come with a monitor and Windows pre-installed, and they go as cheap as $400 in Canada.

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]it's truth once you add "legally" at the end ;)

LOXO7

Case/HDD/MOBO/Windows/KB/M/RAM/DVD$269

CPU$49.99

PSU$19.99

GPU$54.99

GRAND TOTAL: $394.94

Features Include

• Dual Core Intel CPU E33002.5ghz
• Windows Vista Basic 32-bit
• 400watt PSU
• 2GB DDR2 ram
• 160GB HDD 7200rpm
• ATI HD4650 GPU 512mb
• Keyboard and Mouse
• Case
• Socket 775 MOBO
• DVD Drive
• etc.

thats all.

NVIDIATI

Guys sry to break it to you, but u have officially been pwned by NVIDIATI. For all of u complaining about the OS he just solved the problem

please find me some one that uses a monitor as their primary display for their console. and a monitor for consoles require hdmi which those monitors cost 200 bucks as apposed to 120 bucks for any computer

iliatay

Interesting - I wasn't aware that DVI-HDMI cables such as this one (http://www.amazon.com/DVI-HDMI-Cable-6ft-Male-Male/dp/B0002CZHN6) no longer existed. Thanks for letting me know!

lowe0

[QUOTE="painguy1"]

[QUOTE="iliatay"] please find me some one that uses a monitor as their primary display for their console. and a monitor for consoles require hdmi which those monitors cost 200 bucks as apposed to 120 bucks for any computer

lowe0

what he siad and also, you have a PC monitor? oh how wonderful how much did that PC cost you?

Case/HDD/MOBO/Windows/KB/M/RAM/DVD$269

CPU$49.99

PSU$19.99

GPU$54.99

GRAND TOTAL: $394.94

Features Include

• Dual Core Intel CPU E33002.5ghz
• Windows Vista Basic 32-bit
• 400watt PSU
• 2GB DDR2 ram
• 160GB HDD 7200rpm
• ATI HD4650 GPU 512mb
• Keyboard and Mouse
• Case
• Socket 775 MOBO
• DVD Drive
• etc.

thats all.

NVIDIATI

Case/HDD/MOBO/Windows/KB/M/RAM/DVD$269

CPU$49.99

PSU$19.99

GPU$54.99

GRAND TOTAL: $394.94

Features Include

• Dual Core Intel CPU E33002.5ghz
• Windows Vista Basic 32-bit
• 400watt PSU
• 2GB DDR2 ram
• 160GB HDD 7200rpm
• ATI HD4650 GPU 512mb
• Keyboard and Mouse
• Case
• Socket 775 MOBO
• DVD Drive
• etc.

thats all.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

Case/HDD/MOBO/Windows/KB/M/RAM/DVD$269

CPU$49.99

PSU$19.99

GPU$54.99

GRAND TOTAL: $394.94

Features Include

• Dual Core Intel CPU E33002.5ghz
• Windows Vista Basic 32-bit
• 400watt PSU
• 2GB DDR2 ram
• 160GB HDD 7200rpm
• ATI HD4650 GPU 512mb
• Keyboard and Mouse
• Case
• Socket 775 MOBO
• DVD Drive
• etc.

thats all.

mythrol

I issue a challenge

Show me that you can build a 400$ PC that runs games as graphically amazing as Killzone 2

kolkov01

That's easy. The biggest problem is that you cannot still buy hardware as crappy as the PS3. You're pretty much forced to buy a decent duo or quad which is far superior to the PS3. So, even though a 400$ PC may be crappy, a 550$ PC is 10x the PS3. It's like going into a gourmey deli and asking for a 99c cheeseburger.

Good for you. Highlight the part that's technically incorrect, please.

lowe0

Oh it's correct, but it doesn't change it is still an effort on the console gamers part to minimize costs outside of tradition.

In reality most of them will be playing on a TV as PC gamers do on a monitor, they boast about the TV/couch combo all the time as being in their eyes a console advantage, as is expected of consoles. But for the sake of argument any fanboy on both sides will use whatever rational that enables them to come out on top, they will price up the cheapest 720p capable monitor they can find online; then go play on a TV.

You of course get expections to the rule on both sides, but it doesn't make the consoles + monitor argument any less of a joke with the amount of 40"+ TV boasting that goes on in here.

tell me what u r even viewing this website on? hmm? pc's are just as essential as tvs nowadays. my whole family has more pcs than tvs

iliatay

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

Case/HDD/MOBO/Windows/KB/M/RAM/DVD$269

CPU$49.99

PSU$19.99

GPU$54.99

GRAND TOTAL: $394.94

Features Include

• Dual Core Intel CPU E33002.5ghz
• Windows Vista Basic 32-bit
• 400watt PSU
• 2GB DDR2 ram
• 160GB HDD 7200rpm
• ATI HD4650 GPU 512mb
• Keyboard and Mouse
• Case
• Socket 775 MOBO
• DVD Drive
• etc.

thats all.

ronvalencia

Also, consoles are sold at a loss. Meaning you're going to be paying for the hardware through games. PC gaming is cheaper than console gaming. Face up to it.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

Case/HDD/MOBO/Windows/KB/M/RAM/DVD$269

CPU$49.99

PSU$19.99

GPU$54.99

GRAND TOTAL: $394.94

Features Include

• Dual Core Intel CPU E33002.5ghz
• Windows Vista Basic 32-bit
• 400watt PSU
• 2GB DDR2 ram
• 160GB HDD 7200rpm
• ATI HD4650 GPU 512mb
• Keyboard and Mouse
• Case
• Socket 775 MOBO
• DVD Drive
• etc.

thats all.

mythrol

the thread asked for a 400 dollar pc. how much was ur tv that u play ps3 on btw?

iliatay

[QUOTE="iliatay"]

the thread asked for a 400 dollar pc. how much was ur tv that u play ps3 on btw?

mythrol

Each time one buys a console they have to buy a new TV? I need a couch to game in front of my TV too. Don't forget that. A good leather couch is essentail when gaming with consoles. Most likely you own a TV, couch, and the house that comes with it before your new console. And you didn't buy these things for the console. This is ridiculous. PCs are more expenisive then consoles. Maybe we can compare if the PS3 is bundled with a hdtv then...it would be fair comparing it to PC.

LOXO7

[QUOTE="iliatay"]

the thread asked for a 400 dollar pc. how much was ur tv that u play ps3 on btw?

mythrol

[QUOTE="iliatay"]

the thread asked for a 400 dollar pc. how much was ur tv that u play ps3 on btw?

mythrol

you mean the PC that does other things besides playing games? Oh also i forgot to mention...that PC kills the PS3 when u compare the hardware.

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"] http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?sku=899952&affiliate=td&lpgrp=network&tduid=6c20f890efabbf99027d9e446e4c0401 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Take-2-Bioshock-PC-DVD/dp/B00175SOS2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1266104286&sr=1-3 You where saying?mythrol

PS what games do you play on your console? None? Oh and Ive saved over £1000 over 5 years on games alone....

so ur gonna play with no sound? and its really obvious that u dont even have a pc.

iliatay

Oh dear, I expect he's routing through his PC photo collection right now for "evidence" of his lack of bias. I actually have part ownership of a PS3, but I don't throw out photos in an effort to add weight to my arguments.

I'm biased, having a PS3 doesn't change that.

so ur gonna play with no sound? and its really obvious that u dont even have a pc.iliatay

As for my not owning a PC: care to put your time where your mouth is? 4 hours of volunteer work for charity. If it's so obvious that I don't own a PC, then this should be a no-brainer for you. Let's see your response in this thread.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

Case/HDD/MOBO/Windows/KB/M/RAM/DVD$269

CPU$49.99

PSU$19.99

GPU$54.99

GRAND TOTAL: $394.94

Features Include

• Dual Core Intel CPU E33002.5ghz
• Windows Vista Basic 32-bit
• 400watt PSU
• 2GB DDR2 ram
• 160GB HDD 7200rpm
• ATI HD4650 GPU 512mb
• Keyboard and Mouse
• Case
• Socket 775 MOBO
• DVD Drive
• etc.

thats all.

mythrol

"Is it possible to build a 400$ PC and run games as powerfull as Killzone 2?"

[QUOTE="iliatay"]

so ur gonna play with no sound? and its really obvious that u dont even have a pc.

AnnoyedDragon

Oh dear, I expect he's routing through his PC photo collection right now for "evidence" of his lack of bias. I actually have part ownership of a PS3, but I don't throw out photos in an effort to add weight to my arguments.

I'm biased, having a PS3 doesn't change that.

Done and done, I believe I got all the necessary components for a computer correct? I'm pretty sure if the Playstation 3 can run Killzone 2, this setup could run Killzone 2.

By the way, I haven't spent a good amount of time researching different hardware and what is better than what, so I'm a bit rusty on that subject, I did this in like five minutes to prove you wrong.

DarkGamer007

that 4670 is terrible, any higher then low with 4gb or ram on bfbc2 is terrible, and this is running at a 1400x900, mmm a solid..ish 30fps.

edit: my specs

4670 1g

4gb ram

2.8ghz amd

windows 7 32 bit

i've almost got an identicle system to the one you posted, all i can say is buying that garbage will end up costing you more then just spending $600+ outright for the system with ddr3 memory 4gb and a nice 5850 or something. I've had it for about 6 months and it blows and i'm already replacing everything

Stick a medium CPU+GPU in your current computer, done.

Also add in the price of the laptop/computer you're using to complain about how expensive PC gaming is, you know... since your magical power box console that costs $300 can't browse the web etc.

inb4 PS3 web browser.

"Hey you hermit! PC gaming is so expensive!"

too long didn't read version: for the price you paid for your 360 and PC/Laptop you could have just bought a gaming PC :oops:

[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="iliatay"]

the thread asked for a 400 dollar pc. how much was ur tv that u play ps3 on btw?

True_Gamer_

the problem is the Cell, that type of tech wont be available for desktop until the year of 2012.

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="mythrol"] You mean the TV that I purchased to watch TV BEFORE I owned a PS3? That is irrelevant to the price. Does your build include a monitors price?mythrol

you mean the PC that does other things besides playing games? Oh also i forgot to mention...that PC kills the PS3 when u compare the hardware.painguy

Build me a pc that kills the PS3 for $300 (including Blu-Ray and wifi because the PS3 has those built in). Build me a pc that kills the 360 for $200, then we'll talk.

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="mythrol"] You mean the TV that I purchased to watch TV BEFORE I owned a PS3? That is irrelevant to the price. Does your build include a monitors price?mythrol

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]Each time one buys a console they have to buy a new TV? I need a couch to game in front of my TV too. Don't forget that. A good leather couch is essentail when gaming with consoles. Most likely you own a TV, couch, and the house that comes with it before your new console. And you didn't buy these things for the console. This is ridiculous. PCs are more expenisive then consoles. Maybe we can compare if the PS3 is bundled with a hdtv then...it would be fair comparing it to PC.

foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"]

[QUOTE="kolkov01"]

I issue a challenge

Show me that you can build a 400$ PC that runs games as graphically amazing as Killzone 2

ronvalencia

There

Power supply-BFG 550W - $50

CPu-Athlon 2 x3 2,7 GHZ ( triple core ) - $72

Mobo-Asrock Am3 with 2 PC-X x16 slots for sli/crossfire - $60

Vga-Sapphire Ati 5670- $93 Great mainstream vga that can play most games even at 1080p

RAM-Kingston 2GB DDR3 1333 - $53

HD -250GB seagate $45

Case- Gigabyte - $27

Add $10-15 for a keyboard and mouse and you are set

much better than consoles and only $400 ( 410-420 with a KB+M )

You dont need a dvd drive just use various DD services

Like Radeon HD 5670, Radon HD 5570 still includes 400 SPs and it's cheaper.

http://research.scea.com/ps3_deferred_shading.pdf

5 SPEs = 20 pipeline enabled G70. To beat PS3, you need a GPU that would beat two cutdown G70s i.e. Geforce 8800 GT would do the trick.

[QUOTE="iliatay"]

you mean the PC that does other things besides playing games? Oh also i forgot to mention...that PC kills the PS3 when u compare the hardware.mythrol

Build me a pc that kills the PS3 for $300 (including Blu-Ray and wifi because the PS3 has those built in). Build me a pc that kills the 360 for $200, then we'll talk.

[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"] You mean the PC Ive purchased to do computing tasks?iliatay

[QUOTE="painguy"]

you mean the PC that does other things besides playing games? Oh also i forgot to mention...that PC kills the PS3 when u compare the hardware.mythrol

Build me a pc that kills the PS3 for $300 (including Blu-Ray and wifi because the PS3 has those built in). Build me a pc that kills the 360 for $200, then we'll talk.

[QUOTE="mythrol"]

[QUOTE="iliatay"]

you mean the PC that does other things besides playing games? Oh also i forgot to mention...that PC kills the PS3 when u compare the hardware.iliatay

Build me a pc that kills the PS3 for $300 (including Blu-Ray and wifi because the PS3 has those built in). Build me a pc that kills the 360 for $200, then we'll talk.

[QUOTE="iliatay"]

[QUOTE="mythrol"] Weird. I own 5 PCs that do all my computing tasks, and none of them are gaming PCs. Why don't we just add the cost of a couch to a game console as well? Oh how about the cost of the internet? Hell let's add the cost of me having to purchase clothes to wear whenever I go to the store to buy my console. The average person has a TV well before a console purchase. mythrol

[QUOTE="mythrol"]

[QUOTE="painguy"]

you mean the PC that does other things besides playing games? Oh also i forgot to mention...that PC kills the PS3 when u compare the hardware.True_Gamer_

Build me a pc that kills the PS3 for $300 (including Blu-Ray and wifi because the PS3 has those built in). Build me a pc that kills the 360 for $200, then we'll talk.

[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="iliatay"]

the thread asked for a 400 dollar pc. how much was ur tv that u play ps3 on btw?

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

[QUOTE="mythrol"]

Build me a pc that kills the PS3 for $300 (including Blu-Ray and wifi because the PS3 has those built in). Build me a pc that kills the 360 for $200, then we'll talk.

mythrol

[QUOTE="iliatay"]

you mean the PC that does other things besides playing games? Oh also i forgot to mention...that PC kills the PS3 when u compare the hardware.mythrol

Build me a pc that kills the PS3 for $300 (including Blu-Ray and wifi because the PS3 has those built in). Build me a pc that kills the 360 for $200, then we'll talk.

[QUOTE="iliatay"]

[QUOTE="mythrol"] You mean the TV that I purchased to watch TV BEFORE I owned a PS3? That is irrelevant to the price. Does your build include a monitors price?savagetwinkie