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#51 dkrustyklown
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No way. I'm a Nintendo fan, but lately, I've been spending way more time playing DDO on my PC than my Nintendo games. I sort-of feel bad for neglecting my Wii :o

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#52 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"]PC gaming is like asymtote. it may decline, but it will never reach zeroJandurin

Now wait just a secant - let's not go off on a tangent with maths. cos that would be a sin. :V

the silly in your post approaches infinite also no u

D: So this is where you are. Presumably as a cosecequence of not being on OT as much. Ohgodthatwasawful.
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#53 Mograine
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i wonder what makes people post these kind of topics, i mean this subject comes up every week!Meowmixxvi

Ignorance.

I wonder what makes people ask this kind of questions. These idioticly sarcastic comments come up every time these idiotic threads come up. See what I did there?

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#54 Birdy09
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[QUOTE="flashn00b"]Sorry for bumping this thread, but I don't know if there's really anything for the PC in 2010.
Judging by FF13 and FF14 I would rathre FF14 anyway thanks...Birdy09
Ehh, i dunno if FFXIV is worth the monthly fees. Besides, the PC desperately needs a current-generation singleplayer Final Fantasy game, as well as Kingdom Hearts 3.

No, 13's plot and Characters looks lame, I would rather take a revised MMO that would last me months or even a year over these single player dying JRPGs.
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D: So this is where you are. Presumably as a cosecequence of not being on OT as much. Ohgodthatwasawful.Funky_Llama
you got me before i fixed my spelling error >: Yes, that was awful. You've got three secants to get your poorly used trigonometric funtions out of my domain D= >_> lulz
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#56 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]D: So this is where you are. Presumably as a cosecequence of not being on OT as much. Ohgodthatwasawful.Jandurin
you got me before i fixed my spelling error >: Yes, that was awful. You've got three secants to get your poorly used trigonometric funtions out of my domain D= >_> lulz

Oh fine. I'll get my cote. cote. And yes, I did just hit a new low. :V

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#57 1080pOnly
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PC Gaming isn't dying, just some of the old franchises arebeing ruined for consoles. Thankfully the PC has many new franchises and is the best place to find indie developers showing off their ideas.

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#58 washd123
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where the hell have you been?? pc gaming has been dead since 1989

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]D: So this is where you are. Presumably as a cosecequence of not being on OT as much. Ohgodthatwasawful.Funky_Llama

you got me before i fixed my spelling error >: Yes, that was awful. You've got three secants to get your poorly used trigonometric funtions out of my domain D= >_> lulz

Oh fine. I'll get my cote. cote. And yes, I did just hit a new low. :V

1. a shelter, coop, or small shed for sheep, pigs, pigeons, etc. 2. British Dialect. a cottage; small house. Failsauce. Still, I lol'd :P
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#60 James161324
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From a being able to at the same level of consoles. yes. it will always be arround becuase of all the WOW addicts

but besides the mmo on the pc. the rest is dieing out

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[QUOTE="Meowmixxvi"]i wonder what makes people post these kind of topics, i mean this subject comes up every week!Mograine

Ignorance.

I wonder what makes people ask this kind of questions. These idioticly sarcastic comments come up every time these idiotic threads come up. See what I did there?

someones mad :lol: >_>
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#63 Mograine
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From a being able to at the same level of consoles. yes. it will always be arround becuase of all the WOW addicts

but besides the mmo on the pc. the rest is dieing out

James161324

Yeah right :lol:

Hail to X360, the new king of RTSs with its almighty Halo Wars :lol: !

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still though, the PC will always get console ports, so it probably won't die out completely :) take heart, fair hermits!
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#65 1080pOnly
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From a being able to at the same level of consoles. yes. it will always be arround becuase of all the WOW addicts

but besides the mmo on the pc. the rest is dieing out

James161324

*Looks at his superior versions of most big console hits + a wide range of games consoles can't even dream of running*

Y'all should listen to this guy, he really knows his stuff.

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#66 1080pOnly
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still though, the PC will always get console ports, so it probably won't die out completely :) take heart, fair hermits!Jandurin

Yes, it has been nice watching console users beta testing the rubbish version of games. It is because of folk like you that I get to play it as the developer intended.Thanks!

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]still though, the PC will always get console ports, so it probably won't die out completely :) take heart, fair hermits!1080pOnly

Yes, it has been nice watching console users beta testing the rubbish version of games. It is because of folk like you that I get to play it as the developer intended.Thanks!

you're welcome, friend always glad to know that my long past loved games get to be enjoyed by new gamers :)
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From a being able to at the same level of consoles. yes. it will always be arround becuase of all the WOW addicts

but besides the mmo on the pc. the rest is dieing out

James161324
Really Strategy games are dieing out eh?
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#69 1080pOnly
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[QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]still though, the PC will always get console ports, so it probably won't die out completely :) take heart, fair hermits!Jandurin

Yes, it has been nice watching console users beta testing the rubbish version of games. It is because of folk like you that I get to play it as the developer intended.Thanks!

you're welcome, friend always glad to know that my long past loved games get to be enjoyed by new gamers :)

So true, I just never seem to have enough time to get around to those, what do you call them, simplistic games the console has. So many engrossing PC exclusives that I almost forget about the casual market sometimes.

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Boy, I really hope the pc isn't dying. I don't want to be stuck with console games. Don't get me wrong, I like console games. I like nhl 10, I like halo wars, and I like a lot of others. But I still need my Empire: Total War and my Crysis. And my mods and level editors too.

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[QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

Yes, it has been nice watching console users beta testing the rubbish version of games. It is because of folk like you that I get to play it as the developer intended.Thanks!

you're welcome, friend always glad to know that my long past loved games get to be enjoyed by new gamers :)

So true, I just never seem to have enough time to get around to those, what do you call them, simplistic games the console has. So many engrossing PC exclusives that I almost forget about the casual market sometimes.

Not surprising. Sims 3 is very engrossing, I hear. Hard to spend time doing anything else. Except for intermittent rousing games of Solitaire!
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#72 Troqe
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It's dead. Maybe not community wise

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[QUOTE="James161324"]

From a being able to at the same level of consoles. yes. it will always be arround becuase of all the WOW addicts

but besides the mmo on the pc. the rest is dieing out

Mograine

Yeah right :lol:

Hail to X360, the new king of RTSs with its almighty Halo Wars :lol: !

I gave Halo Wars a fair shot and hated it. Turn-based strategies work fine on consoles but RTS often end up being annoying. However it should be noted that Halo Wars outsold Dawn of War 2 by a fair margin. PC gaming isn't dying but it certainly doesn't have the same market clout that it once had. Some pc genres have gone from healthy to pretty much dead like sports.

But on a brighter note there will be plenty of games for all platforms in 2010.

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#74 chrion133
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Diablo 3 and starcraft 2 are both probably 2010 games, how can a system with 2 of the most anticipated exclusives in like the last 10 years be rdy to die? lulz FF13?!? seriously? Both diablo and starcraft will still be played by millions of gamers into the next gen of consoles when whatever console game is this holidays hit is looooong forgotten, seriously these games are played for 5+ years, 1 is a the greatest E- sport in the world, and there only on 1 system.

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PC gaming, happily dying since 1999

Guybrush_3

This.

If PC gaming is dying, what exactly is happening to consoles? We generally receive excellent new IP's as well as superior multiplats.

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#76 chrion133
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[QUOTE="Mograine"]

[QUOTE="James161324"]

From a being able to at the same level of consoles. yes. it will always be arround becuase of all the WOW addicts

but besides the mmo on the pc. the rest is dieing out

dc337

Yeah right :lol:

Hail to X360, the new king of RTSs with its almighty Halo Wars :lol: !

I gave Halo Wars a fair shot and hated it. Turn-based strategies work fine on consoles but RTS often end up being annoying. However it should be noted that Halo Wars outsold Dawn of War 2 by a fair margin. PC gaming isn't dying but it certainly doesn't have the same market clout that it once had. Some pc genres have gone from healthy to pretty much dead like sports.

But on a brighter note there will be plenty of games for all platforms in 2010.

sports is dead?

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#77 Mograine
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I gave Halo Wars a fair shot and hated it. Turn-based strategies work fine on consoles but RTS often end up being annoying. However it should be noted that Halo Wars outsold Dawn of War 2 by a fair margin. PC gaming isn't dying but it certainly doesn't have the same market clout that it once had. Some pc genres have gone from healthy to pretty much dead like sports.

But on a brighter note there will be plenty of games for all platforms in 2010.

dc337

Notice the "Halo" part in "Halo Wars". If it wasn't there, we wouldn't even know the game ever existed.

Sadly, the Halo community is that bad.

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#78 shadow_hosi
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This

is why you are wrong

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#79 dc337
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sports is dead?

chrion133

On the pc the sports genre is pretty much dead. That happened when EA ditched the market. What was your other reply about? Did you not read my message carefully?

I stated that 2010 will be good for all platforms, including the pc.

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[QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] you're welcome, friend always glad to know that my long past loved games get to be enjoyed by new gamers :)Jandurin

So true, I just never seem to have enough time to get around to those, what do you call them, simplistic games the console has. So many engrossing PC exclusives that I almost forget about the casual market sometimes.

Not surprising. Sims 3 is very engrossing, I hear. Hard to spend time doing anything else. Except for intermittent rousing games of Solitaire!

I'm sure it would be that way for you if you played them. You could even graduate from consoles to PC and still find casual stuff you'll enjoy. I'm too busy enjoying my campaign in Empire: Total War to be worried about what you'l be playing though sorry.

That said though i'll be breaking out my 360 for a spin on the low res Forza 3. Great game and its graphics remind me of the old days ;).

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#81 adamosmaki
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This

is why you are wrong

shadow_hosi
I second this list. Just like every year pc has more games coming in 2010 again when compared to consoles Also if this is the way the pc is dying ( cheaper hardware than before, cheaper games, more games, more places to buy our games since DD is becoming mainstream for pc gaming, able to find a 15year old pc game on GOG and run it perfectly on my PC, more AAE and AAAE every year,more games to choose from, capcom and other previously console inly software companies bringing their titles on PC) i'm glad is dying the past 20 years
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That said though i'll be breaking out my 360 for a spin on the low res Forza 3. Great game and its graphics remind me of the old days ;).

1080pOnly
Better dated graphics than dated gameplay. At least the console controllers evolve. Still playing with a keyboard and mouse? That's so 1990.
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#83 1080pOnly
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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]

This

is why you are wrong

adamosmaki

I second this list. Just like every year pc has more games coming in 2010 again when compared to consoles Also if this is the way the pc is dying ( cheaper hardware than before, cheaper games, more games, more places to buy our games since DD is becoming mainstream for pc gaming, able to find a 15year old pc game on GOG and run it perfectly on my PC, more AAE and AAAE every year,more games to choose from, capcom and other previously console inly software companies bringing their titles on PC) i'm glad is dying the past 20 years

Aye, and I can't wait for Rebellions AVP in DX11 *Drool*.

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#84 MangaJ
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This

is why you are wrong

shadow_hosi

And that wins it. Discussion over. Nothing to see here, people.

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[QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

That said though i'll be breaking out my 360 for a spin on the low res Forza 3. Great game and its graphics remind me of the old days ;).

Jandurin

Better dated graphics than dated gameplay. At least the console controllers evolve. Still playing with a keyboard and mouse? That's so 1990.

Still thinking you use a M&K for action & driving games on the PC? That's so 1990.

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[QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

That said though i'll be breaking out my 360 for a spin on the low res Forza 3. Great game and its graphics remind me of the old days ;).

Better dated graphics than dated gameplay. At least the console controllers evolve. Still playing with a keyboard and mouse? That's so 1990.

Still thinking you use a M&K for action & driving games on the PC? That's so 1990.

No, using an arcade stick was 1990s.
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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]

This

is why you are wrong

MangaJugs

And that wins it. Discussion over. Nothing to see here, people.

A lot of those games were on his list of reasons to be a pc gamer in 2009.

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[QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

That said though i'll be breaking out my 360 for a spin on the low res Forza 3. Great game and its graphics remind me of the old days ;).

Jandurin

Better dated graphics than dated gameplay. At least the console controllers evolve. Still playing with a keyboard and mouse? That's so 1990.

the keyboard and mouse won't become outdated for many PC games because believe it or not, games play BETTER then their console counterparts when it comes to shooters, both first person and third, and RPGs, probably other genres too

the best controller you can get on consoles are the standard ones, but with PC you have many more options, and most are superior to console controllers.

also i dont see console controllers "evolving" that much. the ps3 controller is identical to the ps2 and ps1 controller(when the ps1 got the joysticks). xbox 360 is similar to the playstation controllers as well.

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You cannot kill PC gaming because there is no one to kill. PC gaming has no owner; it has no Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo that would take the platform down with them. Even if Microsoft were to go they would simply take Windows with them, OpenGL would take over after DirectX and everyone would keep gaming on a different OS.

PC gaming, regardless of the form it takes, is the only platform capable of surviving a full industry crash. As long as there are PC users there will be PC gamers; and as long as there are gamers looking for games there will be business more than happy to cater to those consumers.

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full industry crash

AnnoyedDragon
really a full industry crash? Come off it. Nintendo is going nowhere, and I don't believe both MS and Sony will pull out, regardless. Sure, a few of the development/publishing companies have gotten too big, and they'll have problems, but come on.
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A full industry crash can only happen if creativity gets stifled or cracked down. An industry crashing is only possible because of consumer apathy. If there are creative minds out there, there will always be great games. PC gaming still have one thing over consoles, user-based mods.
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#92 MangaJ
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[QUOTE="MangaJugs"]

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]

This

is why you are wrong

dc337

And that wins it. Discussion over. Nothing to see here, people.

A lot of those games were on his list of reasons to be a pc gamer in 2009.

I don't care. This isn't a discussion about 2010. This is a discussion about whether or not pc gaming is dying. That's a great list. I'm really excited about a lot of those games, and I'm incredibly happy that I have a gaming pc that will let me play them. If you can look at that list and still say with a straight face that pc gaming is dying, then you're probably just butthurt about not having a pc.

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#93 dc337
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also i dont see console controllers "evolving" that much. the ps3 controller is identical to the ps2 and ps1 controller(when the ps1 got the joysticks). xbox 360 is similar as well.Noverech


The xbox 360 controller evolved from the original xbox fatty controller and later s-controller. It's a significant evolution, especially since the fatty was too big for a lot of people to even use.

I prefer it to the ps3 controller to the point that it made it easy for me to choose between the ps3 and the 360.

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#94 Noverech
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

full industry crash

Jandurin

really a full industry crash? Come off it. Nintendo is going nowhere, and I don't believe both MS and Sony will pull out, regardless. Sure, a few of the development/publishing companies have gotten too big, and they'll have problems, but come on.

i dont see it happening either, but i think he was speaking theoretically...and it makes sense.

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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

full industry crash

Jandurin

really a full industry crash? Come off it. Nintendo is going nowhere, and I don't believe both MS and Sony will pull out, regardless. Sure, a few of the development/publishing companies have gotten too big, and they'll have problems, but come on.

Read what I said, I said PC is in the best position to survive an industry crash; not that there will be one.

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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

full industry crash

really a full industry crash? Come off it. Nintendo is going nowhere, and I don't believe both MS and Sony will pull out, regardless. Sure, a few of the development/publishing companies have gotten too big, and they'll have problems, but come on.

Read what I said, I said PC is in the best position to survive an industry crash; not that there will be one.

oh, well that's fair enough seeing as the PC is used for things not gaming, and games will always be available for it.
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#97 Noverech
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[QUOTE="Noverech"]also i dont see console controllers "evolving" that much. the ps3 controller is identical to the ps2 and ps1 controller(when the ps1 got the joysticks). xbox 360 is similar to the playstation controllers as well.dc337



The xbox 360 controller evolved from the original xbox fatty controller and later s-controller. It's a significant evolution, especially since the fatty was too big for a lot of people to even use.

I prefer it to the ps3 controller to the point that it made it easy for me to choose between the ps3 and the 360.

i might have not made myself clear, while i do believe that the xbox controller changed from the original xbox to the 360, i was talking about how the 360 controller is not too different from the ps1-ps3 controllers.

i edited my original post

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PC gaming isn't as strong as it used to be, an admission I'm sure dc337 is delighted about, but if people think consoles gaming is as strong/stronger they are kidding themselves.

I don't think we are ever going to see a console as strong as the PS2 again. The PS2 was the console market leader because it had the majority of the 3rd party developer support, it had most of the good games in other words. That doesn't happen anymore, everyone who is 3rd party and staying up to date ends up going cross platform to accommodate today's costs. Another PS2 cannot exist again, the quality standards demanded from current generation games simply makes it none cost effective for any company wishing to stay profitable.

The Wii had the right idea in this sense, even though I despise its motion controller gimmick. By using weak hardware it is keeping the cost to make games low, with low costs 3rd party developers can justify staying exclusive to one platform. The same goes for handheld consoles and PC, handheld's use low spec hardware and the variable nature of PC hardware allows developers to make lower cost games.

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I don't think we are ever going to see a console as strong as the PS2 again.

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Good. It really irritated me that they automatically got the support that the other 2 systems probably deserved.
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#100 Myzz617
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DX11&2010...enuff said. whats going to be new in the console market in 2010 other than games? Crickets..................