Is there any real or substantial reason to buy an X1 console?

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#1  Edited By ReCloud
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I always wonder this and I can never reach a conclusion or a reason.

It has no exclusives, everything on x1 is on PC.

All multiplats are in all platforms.

No Japanese game.

Asking $500 for a slight better version(x1x) that games avaliable on all platforms+BC makes no sense since the inferior versions are good enough, be it on ps4 or on OG X1 and you'll still miss the exclusives.

You still have to pay for online and PSN is as good as live nowadays.

And even if live is slight better than the psn, it's still not THAT better for justify buying a console with less games avaliable.

So why would anyone buy an x1 instead of an ps4?

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To play all the hot new games from 2003.

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#4  Edited By ReCloud
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@kuu2: nice argument.

No substance, no real reason given.

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#5  Edited By SecretPolice
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The number One reason tens of millions bought an X1 is because it's just so much fun watching those like yourself...

QQ

Totally worth the price of admission. lolol :P

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#7  Edited By ReCloud
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@kuu2: so you're saying you can't think of a real reason to buy an x1. Cool.

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Is a nice retro console.

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#9 speedfreak48t5p
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You want to play Forza and other Microsoft games and don't want a PC. Why is this such a difficult concept to grasp for cows?

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The only answer you’ll get is “I don’t like PC”. That’s really the only reason at this point.

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#11 ReCloud
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@speedfreak48t5p: @Juub1990: those are valid reasons I guess.

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Yes there is: If you want to remain virgin for the next five years too, then you should buy X1X immediately!

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@recloud: You're assuming everyone has a pc? Even then, most pcs can't match an x1x in graphics, and the others can't match it in price.

You're also assuming everyone prefers ps4s exclusives over xboxs.

You're also ignoring personal preference such as controllers, UI, aesthetics and media functions such as the UHD Blu-ray player.

If you have a 4k TV, x1x offers a lot more than the pro, bar a handful of exclusive games.

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#14 ReCloud
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@sealionact: I'm assuming people prefer aggregated value and x1 offer none.

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#15 Juub1990
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@sealionact: There are more PC’s more powerful than the number of Xbox One X sold so what’s your point exactly?

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The only reason is to play Ninja Gaiden Black I guess. That's a lot of money for one game, but at least it's one of the best games ever made.

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#18 pyro1245
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  • UHD blu rays
  • You want a console and you don't care about Sony's exclusives (let's be real there are only a few must-plays in there between GoW, HZD, and Bloodborne)
  • You have a PC and want to take advantage of the cross-play in your living room
  • You want a decent online network because Sony's is trash

The exclusives on PS4 are nice, but the hardware and online experience is very sub-par.

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#19 ReCloud
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@acy77:

1 - both are, debatable.

2 - also, debatable, mostly old games that goes out of the catalog now and then and can make devs run away from the console because profits.

3 - x1x is niche and I'm mostly talking about base hardware

4 - apples and oranges

5 - all avaliable on PC and most on ps4

6 - lol

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#20 ReCloud
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@pyro1245: on OG hardware?

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#21 rafaelmsoares
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Same reason Classic NES and SNES are such hits: nostalgia. People love to play old games.

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#22 DaVillain  Moderator
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Different strokes for different folks.

Console only gamers is the reason why they want to buy Xbox One console and not PC is the soul reason why they want to buy Xbox One. Exclusives are pretty much the only benefit any consoles has over a decent PC. I know this is a cop-out answer but this is the reason why anyone want's to buy Xbox One.

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#23 rafaelmsoares
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@acy77 said:

Comfortable controller

Game pass

Powerful hardware

Solid online system

Tons of games including bc games

The ps4 really isnt that great

L

1: Debatable

2: No worthwhile games there.

3: That costs a lot more

4: Not that much better than PSN

5: This has to be a joke

6: Whatever makes you sleep better at night

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1. The X model has the power advantage over PS4

2. It's got a handful of great games you can't play on PS4, including Cuphead, Ori, Halo MCC and 5, Forza Horizon 3, etc

3. BC is lit

4. It's cheaper than PC

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@recloud said:

@pyro1245: on OG hardware?

Yep. I really don't want to buy a Pro, but I've been considering upgrading so I don't have to play GoW at 30fps.

Damn those exclusives.

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@Juub1990: could also be I can't afford a PC, although it's cheaper of time the entry price is often higher and some simply can't afford it.

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That's completely subjective to each individual consumer.

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#28 navyguy21
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Another one of these?

People have different tastes.

If I didnt have a gaming PC Id probably game more on my Xbox.

Guess what? Not everyone has a PC capable of gaming.

Why do you think PC devs are moving to consoles?

You guys need to stop this pathetic posting.

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@recloud: I guess you assumed wrong again .... You asked a question, and many have given their answer. If you're going to dismiss people's opinions and preferences out of hand, then you really don't need to ask them to comment. Just post a "Xbox No games. Discuss." post if you want to troll.

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1. I don’t have a powerful PC, and won’t for the foreseeable future.

2. So far I have had more fun playing multiplayer in PUBG, Halo 5, Forza 3 and Gears 4 than I ever would with a PS4 exclusive, I know this because I own both. Personal preference.

3. Mulitplats like Witcher 3, COD WWII, Destiny 2 and Assassins Creed Origins, in native 4K with HDR. Good lord.

4. Other multiplats that currently aren’t 4K but are either enhanced resolution (Titanfall 2) or have dynamic resolution (Battlefield 1) look and perform best next to PC. Which I already mentioned I don’t have.

Well, that about wraps up this discussion....

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Yes. If you don't have, or want to game on PC, it's ideal.

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Not having a beefy computer. That's reason enough to own one.

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@nomadic8280 said:

1. I don’t have a powerful PC, and won’t for the foreseeable future.

2. So far I have had more fun playing multiplayer in PUBG, Halo 5, Forza 3 and Gears 4 than I ever would with a PS4 exclusive, I know this because I own both. Personal preference.

3. Mulitplats like Witcher 3, COD WWII, Destiny 2 and Assassins Creed Origins, in native 4K with HDR. Good lord.

4. Other multiplats that currently aren’t 4K but are either enhanced resolution (Titanfall 2) or have dynamic resolution (Battlefield 1) look and perform best next to PC. Which I already mentioned I don’t have.

Well, that about wraps up this discussion....

No they'll just spin it and say they're talking about base hardware only. The X can't possibly be a reasonable, cheaper, alternative option to PC gaming.

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@sealionact said:

@recloud: You're assuming everyone has a pc? Even then, most pcs can't match an x1x in graphics, and the others can't match it in price.

You're also assuming everyone prefers ps4s exclusives over xboxs.

You're also ignoring personal preference such as controllers, UI, aesthetics and media functions such as the UHD Blu-ray player.

If you have a 4k TV, x1x offers a lot more than the pro, bar a handful of exclusive games.

There are more PCs that beat the XBox One X power and there are no exclusives for the xbox that are worth it. Also you can use the controllers on PC.

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that's pretty funny considering the start of this gen

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#36 Diddies
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@pyro1245 said:
  • UHD blu rays
  • You want a console and you don't care about Sony's exclusives (let's be real there are only a few must-plays in there between GoW, HZD, and Bloodborne)
  • You have a PC and want to take advantage of the cross-play in your living room
  • You want a decent online network because Sony's is trash

The exclusives on PS4 are nice, but the hardware and online experience is very sub-par.

What? UHD is great for the Xbox and the PS4 missed out on this. I beleive that. But you contradict yourself that you do not care for their exclusives but you list them as a must. lol And Xbox online is very comparable to Sony's now. Actually Sony may be better due to download times are faster on Sony's device.

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#37 Diddies
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@drummerdave9099 said:

1. The X model has the power advantage over PS4

2. It's got a handful of great games you can't play on PS4, including Cuphead, Ori, Halo MCC and 5, Forza Horizon 3, etc

3. BC is lit

4. It's cheaper than PC

If you have to list Cuphead (a side scroller and old games (Halo MCC which had tons of issues) as the reason you want the xbox then you have made a bad decision. Also list BC..I want to play new games, not old games. And you say cheaper than PC...immediately at cost yes...over long term no.

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#38 Diddies
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@thehig1 said:

@Juub1990: could also be I can't afford a PC, although it's cheaper of time the entry price is often higher and some simply can't afford it.

That is usually the case. Most people on here aren't making the most money on here with a lot in high school and college. So they stick to the cheaper route as they don't see themselves spending that much money at one time or even have that much to spend at one time.

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#39  Edited By Pharoahogc1
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Because if your a console gamer and don't want to play on PC and happen to like the exclusives shared between both like Forza,Halo,gears,sod, etc...and also it helps if you already have a big BC library so those games don't go to waste if you sell your old system. I don't think it's a Fanboy thing but more like a casual thing for people who either don't care about ps exlucives and just want a good console for 3rd party or as I said b4 the shared exlusives, I think that's who it caters to. I have a PS4 and an Xbox One X and I barely ever touch my PS4 because I like Halo and stuff like that, and I want to play the best version of 3rd party games without getting a new PC. I ha EA a an olddddddd pc that I only use for Starcraft 2 lol

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@Pharoahogc1 said:

Because if your a console gamer and don't want to play on PC and happen to like the exclusives shared between both like Forza,Halo,gears,sod, etc...and also it helps if you already have a big BC library so those games don't go to waste if you sell your old system. I don't think it's a Fanboy thing but more like a casual thing for people who either don't care about ps exlucives and just want a good console for 3rd party or as I said b4 the shared exlusives, I think that's who it caters to. I have a PS4 and an Xbox One X and I barely ever touch my PS4 because I like Halo and stuff like that, and I want to play the best version of 3rd party games without getting a new PC. I ha EA a an olddddddd pc that I only use for Starcraft 2 lol

"Halo and stuff like that." I think you mean just Halo because there is nothing else. lol

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Better controller than sony, better online, better ecosystem, no desire to get a gaming pc. I'll get ps4 cheap down the road to play any exclusives i missed.

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#42  Edited By Enragedhydra
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Didn't Microsoft say that the Halo series would not come to PC regardless that it would remain on the X1X? If that is so someone could buy an X1X for that. I don't condone buying an X1X for only a handful of titles because I don't think it is good value but it may be a reason.

If we can finally get the new Halo games on PC maybe buying an X1X maybe isn't such a good idea but again it all depends. If you already own a gaming PC I think it is of better value to upgrade it instead, if you don't I think the X1X is of good value if you want to play games. If I really want to equal an X1X in graphics it is a simple solution of just going and buying a new GPU. In Canada I can buy an X1X for $500, I can buy a GTX 1070 for $600 so I would think buying the 1070 to be of much better value for upgrading my PC. Even if the X1X matches a 1070 in terms of power (I'm not sure if this is true but it was claimed by Microsoft), the CPU on an X1X though having more cores has a lower clock speed, and since most games can't utilize 8 cores yet having 4 cores with a higher clock speed is preferable in my opinion. In terms of backwards compatibility it is nice to see Microsoft finally implementing it for older games though PC is still the king in terms of backwards compatibility, if your only care is playing older games go with building a budget PC instead. Lots of people will say don't build a budget PC which I completely disagree with, you get all the benefits of PC gaming even on a budget PC, you can still play the newest titles on low settings and get the access to the older games at a good price.

There is no right or wrong way to play video games and it comes down to preference, lots of peoples mind will not be changed on the issue and that is fine, than you talk about their current situation and what they own and help them way the pros and cons of whether to stick with a console or switch over to PC or to upgrade their current PC.

I built my PC when prices were not out of control yet but eventually PC parts will come back down to earth. Even without the latest parts though I can still play my games at minimum 60 FPS mind you with a lot of the games the graphics turned down.

DOOM runs super smooth at highest settings, while I struggle with Wolfenstein and the Witcher 3 while Hitman is very playable on highest settings, so in my opinion running a budget rig is of no problems.

My cost of my budget rig came in at $900 bucks and gives 100% backwards compatibility to a massive library of PC games and some older cross platform games, I can upgrade my PC for another $600 to be able to smoothly hit minimum 60 FPS if not higher on all the games I've tested. Now if you don't have $900 or backwards compatibility doesn't matter to you so much get an X1X and have access to older Xbox and 360 titles and you can be absolutely happy with your purchase, if you want more games, the potential for a higher FPS than 60 on still decent graphics that are certainly not an eye sore by any means get a PC.

There is no right or wrong way to play video games and it comes down to circumstances, I have posted what I hit in my games using different graphical settings.

With Wolfenstein with the graphics turned to low I can achieve 60 FPS no problems but when I crank it all the way up I hit stable 30 but I find it personally unplayable coming from 60 FPS.

DOOM under OpenGL with Ultra Graphics I was hitting between 60 to 90 FPS and on low I hit 70 to 110+ FPS, unfortunately even though I have a AMD card setting it to Vulcan causes DOOM to repeatedly crash

HITMAN I hit 55 to 60 FPS on Highest settings with Vsync disabled on Lowest settings I get around 90 FPS with Vsync disabled

The Witcher 3 Low 80 FPS Medium 75 FPS High 55 FPS Ultra 45 FPS. I find 45 FPS playable in an open world game but in combat hitting 80 fps I find makes a difference in reaction time

All the tests were done using Fraps

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@drummerdave9099 said:
@nomadic8280 said:

1. I don’t have a powerful PC, and won’t for the foreseeable future.

2. So far I have had more fun playing multiplayer in PUBG, Halo 5, Forza 3 and Gears 4 than I ever would with a PS4 exclusive, I know this because I own both. Personal preference.

3. Mulitplats like Witcher 3, COD WWII, Destiny 2 and Assassins Creed Origins, in native 4K with HDR. Good lord.

4. Other multiplats that currently aren’t 4K but are either enhanced resolution (Titanfall 2) or have dynamic resolution (Battlefield 1) look and perform best next to PC. Which I already mentioned I don’t have.

Well, that about wraps up this discussion....

No they'll just spin it and say they're talking about base hardware only. The X can't possibly be a reasonable, cheaper, alternative option to PC gaming.

Right. I misread the topic and thought he was talking about the X1X. Still, TC brought up the X so its fair. Just the XB1? Still a few good reasons. Preferring the exclusives, Game Pass, Games With Gold, backward compatibility.

Its weird. I enjoy coming here to talk games and systems and stuff, but man the preoccupation with continually asking the XB1 owners to justify their personal preference is ridiculous.

If I said, "I like the shape of the machine and the way the games cases are green instead of blue", you'd still have to accept that as my personal preference therefore reason enough.

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@Enragedhydra said:

Didn't Microsoft say that the Halo series would not come to PC regardless that it would remain on the X1X? If that is so someone could buy an X1X for that. I don't condone buying an X1X for only a handful of titles because I don't think it is good value but it may be a reason.

If we can finally get the new Halo games on PC maybe buying an X1X maybe isn't such a good idea but again it all depends. If you already own a gaming PC I think it is of better value to upgrade it instead, if you don't I think the X1X is of good value if you want to play games. If I really want to equal an X1X in graphics it is a simple solution of just going and buying a new GPU. In Canada I can buy an X1X for $500, I can buy a GTX 1070 for $600 so I would think buying the 1070 to be of much better value for upgrading my PC. Even if the X1X matches a 1070 in terms of power (I'm not sure if this is true but it was claimed by Microsoft), the CPU on an X1X though having more cores has a lower clock speed, and since most games can't utilize 8 cores yet having 4 cores with a higher clock speed is preferable in my opinion. In terms of backwards compatibility it is nice to see Microsoft finally implementing it for older games though PC is still the king in terms of backwards compatibility, if your only care is playing older games go with building a budget PC instead. Lots of people will say don't build a budget PC which I completely disagree with, you get all the benefits of PC gaming even on a budget PC, you can still play the newest titles on low settings and get the access to the older games at a good price.

There is no right or wrong way to play video games and it comes down to preference, lots of peoples mind will not be changed on the issue and that is fine, than you talk about their current situation and what they own and help them way the pros and cons of whether to stick with a console or switch over to PC or to upgrade their current PC.

I built my PC when prices were not out of control yet but eventually PC parts will come back down to earth. Even without the latest parts though I can still play my games at minimum 60 FPS mind you with a lot of the games the graphics turned down.

DOOM runs super smooth at highest settings, while I struggle with Wolfenstein and the Witcher 3 while Hitman is very playable on highest settings, so in my opinion running a budget rig is of no problems.

My cost of my budget rig came in at $900 bucks and gives 100% backwards compatibility to a massive library of PC games and some older cross platform games, I can upgrade my PC for another $600 to be able to smoothly hit minimum 60 FPS if not higher on all the games I've tested. Now if you don't have $900 or backwards compatibility doesn't matter to you so much get an X1X and have access to older Xbox and 360 titles and you can be absolutely happy with your purchase, if you want more games, the potential for a higher FPS than 60 on still decent graphics that are certainly not an eye sore by any means get a PC.

There is no right or wrong way to play video games and it comes down to circumstances, I have posted what I hit in my games using different graphical settings.

With Wolfenstein with the graphics turned to low I can achieve 60 FPS no problems but when I crank it all the way up I hit stable 30 but I find it personally unplayable coming from 60 FPS.

DOOM under OpenGL with Ultra Graphics I was hitting between 60 to 90 FPS and on low I hit 70 to 110+ FPS, unfortunately even though I have a AMD card setting it to Vulcan causes DOOM to repeatedly crash

HITMAN I hit 55 to 60 FPS on Highest settings with Vsync disabled on Lowest settings I get around 90 FPS with Vsync disabled

The Witcher 3 Low 80 FPS Medium 75 FPS High 55 FPS Ultra 45 FPS. I find 45 FPS playable in an open world game but in combat hitting 80 fps I find makes a difference in reaction time

All the tests were done using Fraps

Your PC is noticeably weaker than X1X ..

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#45  Edited By Enragedhydra
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@Enragedhydra said:

Didn't Microsoft say that the Halo series would not come to PC regardless that it would remain on the X1X? If that is so someone could buy an X1X for that. I don't condone buying an X1X for only a handful of titles because I don't think it is good value but it may be a reason.

If we can finally get the new Halo games on PC maybe buying an X1X maybe isn't such a good idea but again it all depends. If you already own a gaming PC I think it is of better value to upgrade it instead, if you don't I think the X1X is of good value if you want to play games. If I really want to equal an X1X in graphics it is a simple solution of just going and buying a new GPU. In Canada I can buy an X1X for $500, I can buy a GTX 1070 for $600 so I would think buying the 1070 to be of much better value for upgrading my PC. Even if the X1X matches a 1070 in terms of power (I'm not sure if this is true but it was claimed by Microsoft), the CPU on an X1X though having more cores has a lower clock speed, and since most games can't utilize 8 cores yet having 4 cores with a higher clock speed is preferable in my opinion. In terms of backwards compatibility it is nice to see Microsoft finally implementing it for older games though PC is still the king in terms of backwards compatibility, if your only care is playing older games go with building a budget PC instead. Lots of people will say don't build a budget PC which I completely disagree with, you get all the benefits of PC gaming even on a budget PC, you can still play the newest titles on low settings and get the access to the older games at a good price.

There is no right or wrong way to play video games and it comes down to preference, lots of peoples mind will not be changed on the issue and that is fine, than you talk about their current situation and what they own and help them way the pros and cons of whether to stick with a console or switch over to PC or to upgrade their current PC.

I built my PC when prices were not out of control yet but eventually PC parts will come back down to earth. Even without the latest parts though I can still play my games at minimum 60 FPS mind you with a lot of the games the graphics turned down.

DOOM runs super smooth at highest settings, while I struggle with Wolfenstein and the Witcher 3 while Hitman is very playable on highest settings, so in my opinion running a budget rig is of no problems.

My cost of my budget rig came in at $900 bucks and gives 100% backwards compatibility to a massive library of PC games and some older cross platform games, I can upgrade my PC for another $600 to be able to smoothly hit minimum 60 FPS if not higher on all the games I've tested. Now if you don't have $900 or backwards compatibility doesn't matter to you so much get an X1X and have access to older Xbox and 360 titles and you can be absolutely happy with your purchase, if you want more games, the potential for a higher FPS than 60 on still decent graphics that are certainly not an eye sore by any means get a PC.

There is no right or wrong way to play video games and it comes down to circumstances, I have posted what I hit in my games using different graphical settings.

With Wolfenstein with the graphics turned to low I can achieve 60 FPS no problems but when I crank it all the way up I hit stable 30 but I find it personally unplayable coming from 60 FPS.

DOOM under OpenGL with Ultra Graphics I was hitting between 60 to 90 FPS and on low I hit 70 to 110+ FPS, unfortunately even though I have a AMD card setting it to Vulcan causes DOOM to repeatedly crash

HITMAN I hit 55 to 60 FPS on Highest settings with Vsync disabled on Lowest settings I get around 90 FPS with Vsync disabled

The Witcher 3 Low 80 FPS Medium 75 FPS High 55 FPS Ultra 45 FPS. I find 45 FPS playable in an open world game but in combat hitting 80 fps I find makes a difference in reaction time

All the tests were done using Fraps

Your PC is noticeably weaker than X1X ..

Did you not read the full post?? An easy upgrade to a 1070 instead of my RX470 for a measly extra 100 bucks over an X1X would make my PC better than an X1X and for another 70 bucks I can throw in another 8 gigs of Ram so at a total cost of $170, I get a much better machine than an X1X and a PS4 Pro.

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@Ant_17 said:

To play all the hot new games from 2003.

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Well for me:

- I’m not at all interested on gaming on PC at this point in time mostly because I prefer to buy my games on a physical format and consoles are just more convenient for me

- I really enjoy most all of the games that Microsoft make/publish especially Halo, Gears of War, and Forza

- I love the way Microsoft has been doing the whole backwards compatibility thing

- I love the controller, online functionality, and ecosystem of the Xbox brand

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#48  Edited By Kali-B1rd
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@m3Boarder32 said:
@Enragedhydra said:

Didn't Microsoft say that the Halo series would not come to PC regardless that it would remain on the X1X? If that is so someone could buy an X1X for that. I don't condone buying an X1X for only a handful of titles because I don't think it is good value but it may be a reason.

If we can finally get the new Halo games on PC maybe buying an X1X maybe isn't such a good idea but again it all depends. If you already own a gaming PC I think it is of better value to upgrade it instead, if you don't I think the X1X is of good value if you want to play games. If I really want to equal an X1X in graphics it is a simple solution of just going and buying a new GPU. In Canada I can buy an X1X for $500, I can buy a GTX 1070 for $600 so I would think buying the 1070 to be of much better value for upgrading my PC. Even if the X1X matches a 1070 in terms of power (I'm not sure if this is true but it was claimed by Microsoft), the CPU on an X1X though having more cores has a lower clock speed, and since most games can't utilize 8 cores yet having 4 cores with a higher clock speed is preferable in my opinion. In terms of backwards compatibility it is nice to see Microsoft finally implementing it for older games though PC is still the king in terms of backwards compatibility, if your only care is playing older games go with building a budget PC instead. Lots of people will say don't build a budget PC which I completely disagree with, you get all the benefits of PC gaming even on a budget PC, you can still play the newest titles on low settings and get the access to the older games at a good price.

There is no right or wrong way to play video games and it comes down to preference, lots of peoples mind will not be changed on the issue and that is fine, than you talk about their current situation and what they own and help them way the pros and cons of whether to stick with a console or switch over to PC or to upgrade their current PC.

I built my PC when prices were not out of control yet but eventually PC parts will come back down to earth. Even without the latest parts though I can still play my games at minimum 60 FPS mind you with a lot of the games the graphics turned down.

DOOM runs super smooth at highest settings, while I struggle with Wolfenstein and the Witcher 3 while Hitman is very playable on highest settings, so in my opinion running a budget rig is of no problems.

My cost of my budget rig came in at $900 bucks and gives 100% backwards compatibility to a massive library of PC games and some older cross platform games, I can upgrade my PC for another $600 to be able to smoothly hit minimum 60 FPS if not higher on all the games I've tested. Now if you don't have $900 or backwards compatibility doesn't matter to you so much get an X1X and have access to older Xbox and 360 titles and you can be absolutely happy with your purchase, if you want more games, the potential for a higher FPS than 60 on still decent graphics that are certainly not an eye sore by any means get a PC.

There is no right or wrong way to play video games and it comes down to circumstances, I have posted what I hit in my games using different graphical settings.

With Wolfenstein with the graphics turned to low I can achieve 60 FPS no problems but when I crank it all the way up I hit stable 30 but I find it personally unplayable coming from 60 FPS.

DOOM under OpenGL with Ultra Graphics I was hitting between 60 to 90 FPS and on low I hit 70 to 110+ FPS, unfortunately even though I have a AMD card setting it to Vulcan causes DOOM to repeatedly crash

HITMAN I hit 55 to 60 FPS on Highest settings with Vsync disabled on Lowest settings I get around 90 FPS with Vsync disabled

The Witcher 3 Low 80 FPS Medium 75 FPS High 55 FPS Ultra 45 FPS. I find 45 FPS playable in an open world game but in combat hitting 80 fps I find makes a difference in reaction time

All the tests were done using Fraps

Your PC is noticeably weaker than X1X ..

But it would have so many more games....

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@Enragedhydra said:
@m3Boarder32 said:
@Enragedhydra said:

Didn't Microsoft say that the Halo series would not come to PC regardless that it would remain on the X1X? If that is so someone could buy an X1X for that. I don't condone buying an X1X for only a handful of titles because I don't think it is good value but it may be a reason.

If we can finally get the new Halo games on PC maybe buying an X1X maybe isn't such a good idea but again it all depends. If you already own a gaming PC I think it is of better value to upgrade it instead, if you don't I think the X1X is of good value if you want to play games. If I really want to equal an X1X in graphics it is a simple solution of just going and buying a new GPU. In Canada I can buy an X1X for $500, I can buy a GTX 1070 for $600 so I would think buying the 1070 to be of much better value for upgrading my PC. Even if the X1X matches a 1070 in terms of power (I'm not sure if this is true but it was claimed by Microsoft), the CPU on an X1X though having more cores has a lower clock speed, and since most games can't utilize 8 cores yet having 4 cores with a higher clock speed is preferable in my opinion. In terms of backwards compatibility it is nice to see Microsoft finally implementing it for older games though PC is still the king in terms of backwards compatibility, if your only care is playing older games go with building a budget PC instead. Lots of people will say don't build a budget PC which I completely disagree with, you get all the benefits of PC gaming even on a budget PC, you can still play the newest titles on low settings and get the access to the older games at a good price.

There is no right or wrong way to play video games and it comes down to preference, lots of peoples mind will not be changed on the issue and that is fine, than you talk about their current situation and what they own and help them way the pros and cons of whether to stick with a console or switch over to PC or to upgrade their current PC.

I built my PC when prices were not out of control yet but eventually PC parts will come back down to earth. Even without the latest parts though I can still play my games at minimum 60 FPS mind you with a lot of the games the graphics turned down.

DOOM runs super smooth at highest settings, while I struggle with Wolfenstein and the Witcher 3 while Hitman is very playable on highest settings, so in my opinion running a budget rig is of no problems.

My cost of my budget rig came in at $900 bucks and gives 100% backwards compatibility to a massive library of PC games and some older cross platform games, I can upgrade my PC for another $600 to be able to smoothly hit minimum 60 FPS if not higher on all the games I've tested. Now if you don't have $900 or backwards compatibility doesn't matter to you so much get an X1X and have access to older Xbox and 360 titles and you can be absolutely happy with your purchase, if you want more games, the potential for a higher FPS than 60 on still decent graphics that are certainly not an eye sore by any means get a PC.

There is no right or wrong way to play video games and it comes down to circumstances, I have posted what I hit in my games using different graphical settings.

With Wolfenstein with the graphics turned to low I can achieve 60 FPS no problems but when I crank it all the way up I hit stable 30 but I find it personally unplayable coming from 60 FPS.

DOOM under OpenGL with Ultra Graphics I was hitting between 60 to 90 FPS and on low I hit 70 to 110+ FPS, unfortunately even though I have a AMD card setting it to Vulcan causes DOOM to repeatedly crash

HITMAN I hit 55 to 60 FPS on Highest settings with Vsync disabled on Lowest settings I get around 90 FPS with Vsync disabled

The Witcher 3 Low 80 FPS Medium 75 FPS High 55 FPS Ultra 45 FPS. I find 45 FPS playable in an open world game but in combat hitting 80 fps I find makes a difference in reaction time

All the tests were done using Fraps

Your PC is noticeably weaker than X1X ..

Did you not read the full post?? An easy upgrade to a 1070 instead of my RX470 for a measly extra 100 bucks over an X1X would make my PC better than an X1X and for another 70 bucks I can throw in another 8 gigs of Ram so at a total cost of $170, I get a much better machine than an X1X and a PS4 Pro.

Not a “much better” 4K Gaming machine tho.

trust me I have a GTX 1080, I know

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#50  Edited By Enragedhydra
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@Archangel3371 said:

Well for me:

- I’m not at all interested on gaming on PC at this point in time mostly because I prefer to buy my games on a physical format and consoles are just more convenient for me

- I really enjoy most all of the games that Microsoft make/publish especially Halo, Gears of War, and Forza

- I love the way Microsoft has been doing the whole backwards compatibility thing

- I love the controller, online functionality, and ecosystem of the Xbox brand

- Physical Format I agree with
- Gears is on PC, Forza is coming to PC https://www.pcgamer.com/forza-motorsport-7-is-coming-to-pc/ Halo is yet to be seen
- PC has a better library of backwards compatibility
- Seriously... you can use controllers on a PC, we also have online functionality, WTF does ecosystem of the Xbox brand mean