It did not take one year for the 360 to get a "good" game

Hey mod why did i get a TOS violation for voicing my opinion??? Did i miss something. I thought this website was about opinions.Killfox

i have a name. :|

how about voicing your opinion without insulting people while you're at it?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

Every day I see people saying that the "PS3 just came out. Give it time. The 360 took a year to get its first good game."

If this is the case, then the PS3 truly has nothing. The PS3's highest rated exclusive game is Resistance with an 8.6 score. The 360 launched with three exclusives (perfect dark zero, kameo, and pgr3) that scored higher. Do you still even want to compare what the PS3 has now against what the 360 had seven months into its lifespan? Are you really willing to say that your own system has nothing in order to say that the system you oppose took a year to get something worthy?

This argument didn't work for the original Xbox ("The PS2 had a one year head start. That's why its game library is better. /cry) and it's not working now for the PS3. The PS2 had a better lineup in its first year than the Xbox did. The 360 had a better first seven months than the PS3 did.

Killfox

Oh, So you agree with that PD0 review.

I C

i've never played pdz.

Dont because its terrible. I bought this game at launch thinking i would give it chance. I was extremely disapointed. At best this game should have gotten maybe a 7 or higher. The single player was the worst thing ive played next to lara croft angel of darkness for PS2. I cant even consider it SP since it was so bad. Plus the online wasnt even that amazing. Sweet lets give everyone mounds and mounds of armor so it takes 300 shots for you to kill someone. Talk about fun.

one thing i can give pdz is that it took skill to play the mp. i came across alot of people that use to use the cmp or laptop and would headshot me within seconds of seeing me.. everytime.. i think headshots were to easy in the game to a certain extent.. it just got so annoying i use to turn off those two weapons and alot of people would get mad or would just leave the game... if one or two of those weapons was not turned on..

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="Sup11722"]wow i knew the cows were getting low but wow this is just sad your arguing with facts i feel so bad for my freind getting a ps3 tommrow now i hope your ok ryanCaseyWegner

May I ask what are these Facts your referring to?

the fact that gamespot's reviews are what we use as the standard in system wars.

I think its fact we've seen some questionable reviews here

I mean GS scoring Forza 2 beyond its game average on game rankings????

PDZ AAA here, lmao, Its bearely AA at game rankings...

Now sure reviewers make mistakes overscoring games, But it appears they never over score PS3 games

it's not overscoring just because it's above the average nor is it a mistake.

So I guess eveyone else just under scored it and they made the mistake? Is that what you think?

So I guess eveyone else just under scored it and they made the mistake? Is that what you think?

Blinblingthing

it's not underscored just because it's below the average and it isn't a mistake.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

Blinblingthing

it's not overscoring just because it's above the average nor is it a mistake.

So I guess eveyone else just under scored it and they made the mistake? Is that what you think?

I want to see what was insulting. Im sorry that some people at this website lose credibility.Killfox

what?

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

So I guess eveyone else just under scored it and they made the mistake? Is that what you think?

CaseyWegner

it's not underscored just because it's below the average and it isn't a mistake.

so how would you account for the 1 point gap between ave and the GS scores?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

So I guess eveyone else just under scored it and they made the mistake? Is that what you think?

Blinblingthing

it's not underscored just because it's below the average and it isn't a mistake.

so how would you account for the 1 point gap between ave and the GS scores?

you mean the .9 gap? easy. gamespot liked it more than other people did. they weren't alone either.

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

Eltroz

it's not overscoring just because it's above the average nor is it a mistake.

So I guess eveyone else just under scored it and they made the mistake? Is that what you think?

Because if PS3 games got Over rated at times like 360 does at time. PS3 would have more AAA games

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

So I guess eveyone else just under scored it and they made the mistake? Is that what you think?

CaseyWegner

it's not underscored just because it's below the average and it isn't a mistake.

so how would you account for the 1 point gap between ave and the GS scores?

you mean the .9 gap? easy. gamespot liked it more than other people did. they weren't alone either.

How come that hasn't happened to a PS3's game then yet then???

Because if PS3 games got Over rated at times like 360 does at time. PS3 would have more AAA games

Blinblingthing

360 has plenty of games which scored higher on gamerankings than gamespot. PS3 will, more than likely, eventually as well. The PS3 only really has two big exclusive games and you cannot determin a pattern from 2 games.

How come that hasn't happened to a PS3's game then yet then???

Blinblingthing

cause so far gs has liked the ps3 games pretty much the same as the average of all the reviews out there. this is really a very simple concept if you stop looking for conspiracies.

How come that hasn't happened to a PS3's game then yet then???

Blinblingthing

There have only been 2 major PS3 exclusives. 360 has seen many many more, some are rated higher than gamerankings some are rated lower.

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

How come that hasn't happened to a PS3's game then yet then???

CaseyWegner

cause so far gs has liked the ps3 games pretty much the same as the average of all the reviews out there. this is really a very simple concept if you stop looking for conspiracies.

SO they can like PDZ beyond anyone else and now nail pS3 games (VF 5) and I shouldn't question the intergrity of those reviews????????

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

How come that hasn't happened to a PS3's game then yet then???

cakeorrdeath

There have only been 2 major PS3 exclusives. 360 has seen many many more, some are rated higher than gamerankings some are rated lower.

True, But funny they so far haven't liked em as much as they did to some 360 Games

True, But funny they so far haven't liked em as much as they did to some 360 Games

Blinblingthing

Why is that funny? IS it funny that they like them more than some 360 games?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

How come that hasn't happened to a PS3's game then yet then???

Blinblingthing

cause so far gs has liked the ps3 games pretty much the same as the average of all the reviews out there. this is really a very simple concept if you stop looking for conspiracies.

SO they can like PDZ beyond anyone else and now nail pS3 games (VF 5) and I shouldn't question the intergrity of those reviews????????

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

True, But funny they so far haven't liked em as much as they did to some 360 Games

cakeorrdeath

Why is that funny? IS it funny that they like them more than some 360 games?

Lets not try and change the subject.

Its obvious 360 games have been getting more love than PS3 games

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

How come that hasn't happened to a PS3's game then yet then???

Blinblingthing

cause so far gs has liked the ps3 games pretty much the same as the average of all the reviews out there. this is really a very simple concept if you stop looking for conspiracies.

SO they can like PDZ beyond anyone else and now nail pS3 games (VF 5) and I shouldn't question the intergrity of those reviews????????

So I supose when VF5 is released on 360 it will be AAA?

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

How come that hasn't happened to a PS3's game then yet then???

orangeonxbox

cause so far gs has liked the ps3 games pretty much the same as the average of all the reviews out there. this is really a very simple concept if you stop looking for conspiracies.

SO they can like PDZ beyond anyone else and now nail pS3 games (VF 5) and I shouldn't question the intergrity of those reviews????????

So what about Resistance.

Surely its did more for PS3 than PDZ did for 360

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

True, But funny they so far haven't liked em as much as they did to some 360 Games

Blinblingthing

Why is that funny? IS it funny that they like them more than some 360 games?

Lets not try and change the subject.

Its obvious 360 games have been getting more love than PS3 games

How so?

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

How come that hasn't happened to a PS3's game then yet then???

user_nat

cause so far gs has liked the ps3 games pretty much the same as the average of all the reviews out there. this is really a very simple concept if you stop looking for conspiracies.

SO they can like PDZ beyond anyone else and now nail pS3 games (VF 5) and I shouldn't question the intergrity of those reviews????????

So I supose when VF5 is released on 360 it will be AAA?

Don't be surprized to see and 8.6

Its obvious 360 games have been getting more love than PS3 games

Blinblingthing

For some reason it seems only obvious to PS3 fans. Why is that?

Crackdown, Lost Planet, Shadowrun etc where was their love?

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

True, But funny they so far haven't liked em as much as they did to some 360 Games

books83

Why is that funny? IS it funny that they like them more than some 360 games?

Lets not try and change the subject.

Its obvious 360 games have been getting more love than PS3 games

How so?

The loving issue? Read 2 pages and get up to speed

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

Its obvious 360 games have been getting more love than PS3 games

cakeorrdeath

For some reason it seems only obvious to PS3 fans. Why is that?

Crackdown, Lost Planet, Shadowrun etc where was their love?

why would a 360 fan say his game was over rated??????

Where is there Love??? MAy be it went to PDZ, Kameo, Dead or Alive 4

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

How come that hasn't happened to a PS3's game then yet then???

Blinblingthing

cause so far gs has liked the ps3 games pretty much the same as the average of all the reviews out there. this is really a very simple concept if you stop looking for conspiracies.

SO they can like PDZ beyond anyone else and now nail pS3 games (VF 5) and I shouldn't question the intergrity of those reviews????????

Oh and big ups to Casey and Cakeorrdeath for being so much more active lately.

As far as saying GS gives all 360 games great scores. It is just pure odds. 360 has far more games. Explain Bullet Witch, Callof Juarez, Shadowrun,,War tech, CrackdownRaymen raving Rabbids, Earth Defence Force 2017, Battlestation Midway, Ninty-nine nights, Rumble Roses XX. None of those are AA games.Heck maybe 360 fans should start saying with all the games out for 360 there should be more AA games.( I am glad lemmings do not act that way though). If anything be mad at PS3 for not having many exclusives out and not this website.Eltroz

Actually Call of Juarez is one game that I thought would of scored much lower. I was expecting it to score somewhere in the 6 range.

[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]resistance owns the 360 launch fps pdz. if ps 3 came out before the 360 pdz would had never got a AAA score. resistance would of gotten a AAA score if it was on 360.CaseyWegner

you don't know that.

LOL AT GARRYTH. I think he thinks he can predict the past if there different factors lol.

How come that hasn't happened to a PS3's game then yet then???

Blinblingthing

Look kid. Stop throwing a fit for something that you are very WRONG

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/theelderscrollsivoblivion/index.html?tag=result;title;2

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/934605.asp?q=oblivion

Oblivion GS PS3 = 9.5

Oblivion GR PS3 average = 9.3

OMGZ GS BIAZZ TOWARD PS3 LOL

For some reason it seems only obvious to PS3 fans. Why is that?

Crackdown, Lost Planet, Shadowrun etc where was their love?

cakeorrdeath

Erm, that's because GS is biased just against certain 360 games...

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

How come that hasn't happened to a PS3's game then yet then???

Forza_2

Look kid. Stop throwing a fit for something that you are very WRONG

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/theelderscrollsivoblivion/index.html?tag=result;title;2

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/934605.asp?q=oblivion

Oblivion GS PS3 = 9.5

Oblivion GR PS3 average = 9.3

OMGZ GS BIAZZ TOWARD PS3 LOL

Actually it kind of is. PS3 games should have only been compared with other PS3 games. The PS3 version was obviously the better version yet it scored worse. Just because it came out later doesnt mean they should mark it down. Thats why I love PC reviews. They only compare other PC games to other PC games. Not console to PC. PC has higher standards so they dont compare them to consoles. And dont say PC doesnt. Look at what happened to halo2 for PC. Most reviewers said that they are way better games on there than this and you shouldnt waste your money.

Actually it kind of is. PS3 games should have only been compared with other PS3 games. The PS3 version was obviously the better version yet it scored worse. Just because it came out later doesnt mean they should mark it down.Killfox

GameSpot often compares multiplatform games, and they should. By telling you the difference between the versions they help you decide which version you should get.

And I said bias towards the PS3, not against. :|

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"][QUOTE="outcasthero"]

Well, that is the context that I agree upon, but just because IN SOME PEOPLE'S OPINION they do not like any of the games that were released before Gears, it does not automatically mean that theyhave toadmit that the PS3 has nothing, as they may actually IN THEIR OWN PERSONAL OPINION prefer the PS3 line-up of games more. Their personal opinions do not, nor should not be subservient to what GS says.

outcasthero

But people use scores to say a console has no good games, do they not?

Indeed, but personal opinion should not be subservient to GS scores. Again, some people may just prefer the early PS3 line-up to that of the 360's....or maybe even like both. Why should they have to be forced into admiting one or the other based on what GS says? That is what he is essentially saying here.

I thinknot even GS thinks their scores are almighty, that's why theyhave the little list with WE SAY -.-, YOU SAY -.- and THEY SAY -.-,

the thing that jumps out though is that most 360 titles score higher on the WE SAY, and lower on the YOU SAY and THEY SAY, while most other consoles get a lower WE SAY, and a higher YOU SAY and THEY SAY.Something that proves to me they structurally downgrading any non 360 title.

And why are my spaces falling away, while posting.

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

How come that hasn't happened to a PS3's game then yet then???

pundog

cause so far gs has liked the ps3 games pretty much the same as the average of all the reviews out there. this is really a very simple concept if you stop looking for conspiracies.

SO they can like PDZ beyond anyone else and now nail pS3 games (VF 5) and I shouldn't question the intergrity of those reviews????????

Oh and big ups to Casey and Cakeorrdeath for being so much more active lately.

Crackdown has a 8.4 Ave at GRankings. So i'd expect that from GS (7.9)

WHat am saying is that Instances where GS overscores a PS3 titles apparently don't happen

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

How come that hasn't happened to a PS3's game then yet then???

Forza_2

Look kid. Stop throwing a fit for something that you are very WRONG

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/theelderscrollsivoblivion/index.html?tag=result;title;2

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/934605.asp?q=oblivion

Oblivion GS PS3 = 9.5

Oblivion GR PS3 average = 9.3

OMGZ GS BIAZZ TOWARD PS3 LOL

Hmmm, 360s Oblivion got the same treatment too.

9.6 here to a 9.4 there

You really expected GS to give PS3's Oblivion anything less than a 9.5 where its an improvement to Oblivion on 360????

It would sort a be saying no improvement were made to oblivion

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

How come that hasn't happened to a PS3's game then yet then???

Blinblingthing

cause so far gs has liked the ps3 games pretty much the same as the average of all the reviews out there. this is really a very simple concept if you stop looking for conspiracies.

SO they can like PDZ beyond anyone else and now nail pS3 games (VF 5) and I shouldn't question the intergrity of those reviews????????

learn2gamerankings

gamespot was not alone in their AAA pdz scoring.

Every day I see people saying that the "PS3 just came out. Give it time. The 360 took a year to get its first good game."

If this is the case, then the PS3 truly has nothing. The PS3's highest rated exclusive game is Resistance with an 8.6 score. The 360 launched with three exclusives (perfect dark zero, kameo, and pgr3) that scored higher. Do you still even want to compare what the PS3 has now against what the 360 had seven months into its lifespan? Are you really willing to say that your own system has nothing in order to say that the system you oppose took a year to get something worthy?

This argument didn't work for the original Xbox ("The PS2 had a one year head start. That's why its game library is better. /cry) and it's not working now for the PS3. The PS2 had a better lineup in its first year than the Xbox did. The 360 had a better first seven months than the PS3 did.

CaseyWegner

Wow. Been saying this the entire time and the only response was "ju ju just you wait!" The PS3 lineup is simply a joke. Anybody who cant admit is a pure fanboy at heart. :shock:

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

How come that hasn't happened to a PS3's game then yet then???

CaseyWegner

cause so far gs has liked the ps3 games pretty much the same as the average of all the reviews out there. this is really a very simple concept if you stop looking for conspiracies.

SO they can like PDZ beyond anyone else and now nail pS3 games (VF 5) and I shouldn't question the intergrity of those reviews????????

learn2gamerankings

gamespot was not alone in their AAA pdz scoring.

We've done this...seven times now. Do you really think they're gonna listen now? :?

The difference between developing for a dual core 360 (one core being used for OS only) and the cell is tremendous. Dev time transitioning to PS3 with its multi SPE and BD use is a lot more different than Xbox (2.5) 360. Heck, even the early PS3 releases didn't have the 1080p that they should have if it was given more time but Xbox 360 never even started out with hdmi.

So you're pretty much ignoring the fact that the PS3's architecture is vastly different and say 360 is better even though developing for it is much easier.

NobuoMusicMaker

Dude cry me a river. I didnt tell those clowns to develop a console that was virtually impossible to develop games for. Maybe they should have put a few million more in theri R&D program? :shock:

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

Every day I see people saying that the "PS3 just came out. Give it time. The 360 took a year to get its first good game."

If this is the case, then the PS3 truly has nothing. The PS3's highest rated exclusive game is Resistance with an 8.6 score. The 360 launched with three exclusives (perfect dark zero, kameo, and pgr3) that scored higher. Do you still even want to compare what the PS3 has now against what the 360 had seven months into its lifespan? Are you really willing to say that your own system has nothing in order to say that the system you oppose took a year to get something worthy?

This argument didn't work for the original Xbox ("The PS2 had a one year head start. That's why its game library is better. /cry) and it's not working now for the PS3. The PS2 had a better lineup in its first year than the Xbox did. The 360 had a better first seven months than the PS3 did.

Magical_Zebra

Wow. Been saying this the entire time and the only response was "ju ju just you wait!" The PS3 lineup is simply a joke. Anybody who cant admit is a pure fanboy at heart. :shock:

Again, my confuse zebra. If the PS3 is weak than the Xbox360 took a year to have a good game.

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

How come that hasn't happened to a PS3's game then yet then???

CaseyWegner

cause so far gs has liked the ps3 games pretty much the same as the average of all the reviews out there. this is really a very simple concept if you stop looking for conspiracies.

SO they can like PDZ beyond anyone else and now nail pS3 games (VF 5) and I shouldn't question the intergrity of those reviews????????

learn2gamerankings

gamespot was not alone in their AAA pdz scoring.

Ummm, Its the average is whats important here.

And since when does GS give a game its Highest Score???

Crackdown has a 8.4 Ave at GRankings. So i'd expect that from GS (7.9)

WHat am saying is that Instances where GS overscores a PS3 titles apparently don't happen

Blinblingthing

dude. come on. it's not overscored or underscored just because it doesn't exactly match the average. it would have to be very far from the average.

Ummm, Its the average is whats important here.

And since when does GS give a game its Highest Score???

Blinblingthing

it would be if the scores were very far off...which they are not.

/shrug