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#201 demoralizer
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I'll say this again, PS3 games are held to higher standard than the original X360 games were when they were released.  PS3 games were being rated at a time when X360 started releasing their best games (both 1st/2nd/3rd party games).

Now I know you've said before gamespot does not do that....meaning they wouldn't rate a PS3 game lower because it's being judged against 2nd generation X360 games.  I ask this, why then did PS3 Oblivion actually score LOWER than the X360 version that was released a year earlier?

Reading the review of the PS3, it's stated quite clearly the PS3 version is better graphically and content wise than the original release of the X360 version.  So why would it actually get a lower score?  If what you have said previously was true and when a title is released doesnt' matter, why didn't PS3 version score higher or at the very least the same score?

darthogre

 There were two different reviewers, Greg Kasavin and Greg Mueller. Their opinions will differ.

The games scored the same in terms of tilt, value, graphics, and gameplay. Only the PS3 version scored lower on sound.

Aslso Mueller also states (The PlayStation 3 version of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion is every bit as impressive as the Xbox 360 and PC versions. However, this isn't necessarily the best version of the game. This version does come with the Knights of the Nine add-on, which will add about 10 hours of gameplay to the already lengthy game, but it doesn't come with any of the other downloadable additions made available on the Xbox 360.)

There you have it, your claim of GS holding PS3 games to a higher standard just flew out the window.

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#202 Verge_6
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Cows have said "Wait a year". Know why? Because this fall PS3 will have a lot of great games. More great games than 360. 360 will have more games, but PS3 will have more great games.

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Stop ignoring my question, dammit. 

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#203 -The-G-Man-
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Cows have said "Wait a year". Know why? Because this fall PS3 will have a lot of great games. More great games than 360. 360 will have more games, but PS3 will have more great games.

casey7672

That's an opinion.

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#204 gingerdivid
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[QUOTE="gingerdivid"]

I like the fact you are making more threads Casey, I reckon it's due to the famous "a history of system wars" thread. I like the fact that every thread you make escalates to astronomical sizes where everybody desperately tries to "own" a "mod", no matter of the threads content. A change for the better if you ask me :).

-The-G-Man-

There's two things people normally try to do in a mod's thread in System Wars. The first is what you said and the second is agree with everything the mod says no matter what the mod says.

haha, indeed. The people that do "suck up" are extremely transparent. I'm not sure which one is worse, the first or the latter.
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#205 Lambo2468
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[QUOTE="Lambo2468"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

Every day I see people saying that the "PS3 just came out. Give it time. The 360 took a year to get its first good game."

If this is the case, then the PS3 truly has nothing. The PS3's highest rated game is Resistance with an 8.6 score. The 360 launched with three exclusives that scored higher. Do you still even want to compare what the PS3 has now against what the 360 had seven months into its lifespan? Are you really willing to say that your own system has nothing in order to say that the system you oppose took a year to get something worthy?

This argument didn't work for the original Xbox ("The PS2 had a one year head start. That's why its game library is better. /cry) and it's not working now for the PS3. The PS2 had a better lineup in its first year than the Xbox did. The 360 had a better first seven months than the PS3 did.

-The-G-Man-

try using a website that arent 360 fanboys

Why are Gamespot 360 fanboys?  Because they gave Perfect Dark Zero a 9?

that game is nothing to resistance , and its funny that on many other websites/mags , Resistance got 9...and GS gives it one of its lowest scores
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#206 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"][QUOTE="gingerdivid"]

I like the fact you are making more threads Casey, I reckon it's due to the famous "a history of system wars" thread. I like the fact that every thread you make escalates to astronomical sizes where everybody desperately tries to "own" a "mod", no matter of the threads content. A change for the better if you ask me :).

gingerdivid

There's two things people normally try to do in a mod's thread in System Wars. The first is what you said and the second is agree with everything the mod says no matter what the mod says.

haha, indeed. The people that do "suck up" are extremely transparent. I'm not sure which one is worse, the first or the latter.

Suck-ups, most certainly. Nothing more annoying than a brown-noser. 

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#207 outcasthero
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[QUOTE="outcasthero"]Indeed, but personal opinion should not be subservient to GS scores. Again, some people may just prefer the early PS3 line-up to that of the 360's....or maybe even like both. Why should they have to be forced into admiting one or the other based on what GS says? That is what he is essentially saying here.

-The-G-Man-

Because then people who bash a system saying it has no good games using GameSpot scores would say their system has better games even though Gamespot scores say otherwise.  See how contradictory that is?

LOL...do people not do that here rampantly anyway? I am sorry, I was under the impression that this entire forum was a contradiction of sorts. For example, people always try to prove their points with logic, but there is always someone there to chime in with, "Logic does not apply in SW." Then of course those very same people go on to CONTRDICT themselves by trying to use their own LOGIC in order to try and prove their particular points.

However, my central point here is not to try and refute GS scores, as I often agree with them and they should of course be used as a standard here. The core of what I am saying is that GS scores should not be used as a means to try and limit people's opinions in favor of someone else's personal preference.;)

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#208 jg4xchamp
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Thank u in the first 7 months. the 360 had 3 AAA games on this site. Oblivion, Graw, and Perfect Dark zero. With 17 AA games by the end of May. And in june it added another AA game. So by the end of june. The 360 had 3 AAA games. and 18 AA games. Those games include DOA 4, Kameo, Project Gothem Racing 3, Ridge racer, Need for Speed, Burnout, Fight Night,Call of DUty 2, etc. Oh and for those who knock PDZ. it got AA on gamerankings, but call of duty 2 got AAA on gamerankings while only AA here. So either way the 360 had 3 AAA games, and 18 AA games no matter what way you put it. Gamerankings or Gamespot, the 360 had more good games than PS3 in its first 7 months.
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#209 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"][QUOTE="Lambo2468"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

Every day I see people saying that the "PS3 just came out. Give it time. The 360 took a year to get its first good game."

If this is the case, then the PS3 truly has nothing. The PS3's highest rated game is Resistance with an 8.6 score. The 360 launched with three exclusives that scored higher. Do you still even want to compare what the PS3 has now against what the 360 had seven months into its lifespan? Are you really willing to say that your own system has nothing in order to say that the system you oppose took a year to get something worthy?

This argument didn't work for the original Xbox ("The PS2 had a one year head start. That's why its game library is better. /cry) and it's not working now for the PS3. The PS2 had a better lineup in its first year than the Xbox did. The 360 had a better first seven months than the PS3 did.

Lambo2468

try using a website that arent 360 fanboys

Why are Gamespot 360 fanboys? Because they gave Perfect Dark Zero a 9?

that game is nothing to resistance , and its funny that on many other websites/mags , Resistance got 9...and GS gives it one of its lowest scores

Again, GS has downplayed more 360 games than most. Your response? 

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#210 SecretPolice
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             I know it has ben said before but...This same mod created a thread yesterday that questioned the biggest franchise MS hangs it's hat on and yet - although their were a few, most debated the issue on merrit and did not call him a biased fan of another system.

             To me; it serves this gaming sight well and if the facts get in you're way - you only reveal you're own bias ! ;)

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#211 casey7672
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[QUOTE="Lambo2468"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

Every day I see people saying that the "PS3 just came out. Give it time. The 360 took a year to get its first good game."

If this is the case, then the PS3 truly has nothing. The PS3's highest rated game is Resistance with an 8.6 score. The 360 launched with three exclusives that scored higher. Do you still even want to compare what the PS3 has now against what the 360 had seven months into its lifespan? Are you really willing to say that your own system has nothing in order to say that the system you oppose took a year to get something worthy?

This argument didn't work for the original Xbox ("The PS2 had a one year head start. That's why its game library is better. /cry) and it's not working now for the PS3. The PS2 had a better lineup in its first year than the Xbox did. The 360 had a better first seven months than the PS3 did.

-The-G-Man-

try using a website that arent 360 fanboys

Why are Gamespot 360 fanboys?  Because they gave Perfect Dark Zero a 9?

 

That's for sure! It's more that they reek of 360 fanboyishness. The things I've been suspended for saying on SW is totally rediculous. Why is it SW if you can't have an opinion about what someone has wrote?

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#212 outcasthero
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[QUOTE="casey7672"]

Cows have said "Wait a year". Know why? Because this fall PS3 will have a lot of great games. More great games than 360. 360 will have more games, but PS3 will have more great games.

-The-G-Man-

That's an opinion.

 

So is this entire thread

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#213 shungokustasu
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Damn Casey, you sure do seem to like putting Shungokustasu in his place...Verge_6

Please, I'm in no competition with that guy. Don't make it seem like it. Actually his views on gaming are similar to mine. The only difference is I man enough to have loyalty to a company.

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#215 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"][QUOTE="Lambo2468"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

Every day I see people saying that the "PS3 just came out. Give it time. The 360 took a year to get its first good game."

If this is the case, then the PS3 truly has nothing. The PS3's highest rated game is Resistance with an 8.6 score. The 360 launched with three exclusives that scored higher. Do you still even want to compare what the PS3 has now against what the 360 had seven months into its lifespan? Are you really willing to say that your own system has nothing in order to say that the system you oppose took a year to get something worthy?

This argument didn't work for the original Xbox ("The PS2 had a one year head start. That's why its game library is better. /cry) and it's not working now for the PS3. The PS2 had a better lineup in its first year than the Xbox did. The 360 had a better first seven months than the PS3 did.

casey7672

try using a website that arent 360 fanboys

Why are Gamespot 360 fanboys? Because they gave Perfect Dark Zero a 9?

 

That's for sure! It's more that they reek of 360 fanboyishness. The things I've been suspended for saying on SW is totally rediculous. Why is it SW if you can't have an opinion about what someone has wrote?

1) GS has downplayed more 360 games than most.

2) What is your gamertag? This is the fourth time I have asked. 

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#216 gingerdivid
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A MOD opens such a thread? Um... :?Kreean
I fully condone it myself, Casey is contributing more to the community. I reckon all the talk about him not being as good a poster in the "a history of system wars" thread since he became a mod hit a soft spot.
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#217 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Damn Casey, you sure do seem to like putting Shungokustasu in his place...shungokustasu

Please, I'm in no competition with that guy. Don't make it seem like it. Actually his views on gaming are similar to mine. The only difference is I man enough to have loyalty to a company.

I don't think showing loyalty to a company makes you a 'man' :?

If anything, it makes you seem childish for not choosing to enjoy everything all three companies have to offer 

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#218 Lambo2468
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[QUOTE="Lambo2468"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"][QUOTE="Lambo2468"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

Every day I see people saying that the "PS3 just came out. Give it time. The 360 took a year to get its first good game."

If this is the case, then the PS3 truly has nothing. The PS3's highest rated game is Resistance with an 8.6 score. The 360 launched with three exclusives that scored higher. Do you still even want to compare what the PS3 has now against what the 360 had seven months into its lifespan? Are you really willing to say that your own system has nothing in order to say that the system you oppose took a year to get something worthy?

This argument didn't work for the original Xbox ("The PS2 had a one year head start. That's why its game library is better. /cry) and it's not working now for the PS3. The PS2 had a better lineup in its first year than the Xbox did. The 360 had a better first seven months than the PS3 did.

Verge_6

try using a website that arent 360 fanboys

Why are Gamespot 360 fanboys? Because they gave Perfect Dark Zero a 9?

that game is nothing to resistance , and its funny that on many other websites/mags , Resistance got 9...and GS gives it one of its lowest scores

Again, GS has downplayed more 360 games than most. Your response? 

but nearly every single PS3 game , even Motorstorm , it got 7.9 , and i dont care what they say but thats not fair , it at least deserves around 8.5
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#219 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"][QUOTE="Lambo2468"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

Every day I see people saying that the "PS3 just came out. Give it time. The 360 took a year to get its first good game."

If this is the case, then the PS3 truly has nothing. The PS3's highest rated game is Resistance with an 8.6 score. The 360 launched with three exclusives that scored higher. Do you still even want to compare what the PS3 has now against what the 360 had seven months into its lifespan? Are you really willing to say that your own system has nothing in order to say that the system you oppose took a year to get something worthy?

This argument didn't work for the original Xbox ("The PS2 had a one year head start. That's why its game library is better. /cry) and it's not working now for the PS3. The PS2 had a better lineup in its first year than the Xbox did. The 360 had a better first seven months than the PS3 did.

Lambo2468

try using a website that arent 360 fanboys

Why are Gamespot 360 fanboys?  Because they gave Perfect Dark Zero a 9?

that game is nothing to resistance , and its funny that on many other websites/mags , Resistance got 9...and GS gives it one of its lowest scores

that game and Resistance are both AA games on gamerankiings. So this whole Resistance should have been AAA isnt just gamespot, lots of other sites ranked that game AA. Crackdown, Call of Duty 2, and more all got lower scores on gamespot then they did on gamerankings. by alot. SO this whole gamespot is biased is a load of BS. Cows need to stop there complaining, nobody is biased against the PS3, the PS3 just did not have as many good games as 360 at this point in its lifetime. Even if u go by gamerankings, gamespot, metacritic, or even gameinformers overrating score magazine the 360 had better games then the PS3 in its first 7 months.
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that game is nothing to resistance , and its funny that on many other websites/mags , Resistance got 9...and GS gives it one of its lowest scoresLambo2468

So because you like Resistance more than Perfect Dark Zero that means that it's automatically better than Perfect Dark no matter what anyone else says? 

And on Gamerankings, Resistance still doesn't have a AAA score.

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#221 TheDarkDisciple
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[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"][QUOTE="casey7672"]

Cows have said "Wait a year". Know why? Because this fall PS3 will have a lot of great games. More great games than 360. 360 will have more games, but PS3 will have more great games.

outcasthero

That's an opinion.

 

So is this entire thread

But if you read what this thread is about, so is every other thread claiming the 360 had no good games.

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"][QUOTE="Lambo2468"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

Every day I see people saying that the "PS3 just came out. Give it time. The 360 took a year to get its first good game."

If this is the case, then the PS3 truly has nothing. The PS3's highest rated game is Resistance with an 8.6 score. The 360 launched with three exclusives that scored higher. Do you still even want to compare what the PS3 has now against what the 360 had seven months into its lifespan? Are you really willing to say that your own system has nothing in order to say that the system you oppose took a year to get something worthy?

This argument didn't work for the original Xbox ("The PS2 had a one year head start. That's why its game library is better. /cry) and it's not working now for the PS3. The PS2 had a better lineup in its first year than the Xbox did. The 360 had a better first seven months than the PS3 did.

casey7672

try using a website that arent 360 fanboys

Why are Gamespot 360 fanboys?  Because they gave Perfect Dark Zero a 9?

 

That's for sure! It's more that they reek of 360 fanboyishness. The things I've been suspended for saying on SW is totally rediculous. Why is it SW if you can't have an opinion about what someone has wrote?

probably because you always bash GS. If you can't stand the reviews or opinions here, go cry about it on some other site.

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#222 Verge_6
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but nearly every single PS3 game , even Motorstorm , it got 7.9 , and i dont care what they say but thats not fair , it at least deserves around 8.5Lambo2468

If you average gameranking's scores. you will see that the average fo 360 game scores are higher than the average of 360 game scores here. In fact, I think the average of PS3 games here is HIGHER than that of Gameranking's

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#223 outcasthero
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Modded for disruptive posting? Tell me, Casey....what did I do that was disruptive? Disagree with you perhaps?
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#224 darthogre
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[QUOTE="darthogre"]

I'll say this again, PS3 games are held to higher standard than the original X360 games were when they were released.  PS3 games were being rated at a time when X360 started releasing their best games (both 1st/2nd/3rd party games).

Now I know you've said before gamespot does not do that....meaning they wouldn't rate a PS3 game lower because it's being judged against 2nd generation X360 games.  I ask this, why then did PS3 Oblivion actually score LOWER than the X360 version that was released a year earlier?

Reading the review of the PS3, it's stated quite clearly the PS3 version is better graphically and content wise than the original release of the X360 version.  So why would it actually get a lower score?  If what you have said previously was true and when a title is released doesnt' matter, why didn't PS3 version score higher or at the very least the same score?

demoralizer

 There were two different reviewers, Greg Kasavin and Greg Mueller. Their opinions will differ.

The games scored the same in terms of tilt, value, graphics, and gameplay. Only the PS3 version scored lower on sound.

Aslso Mueller also states (The PlayStation 3 version of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion is every bit as impressive as the Xbox 360 and PC versions. However, this isn't necessarily the best version of the game. This version does come with the Knights of the Nine add-on, which will add about 10 hours of gameplay to the already lengthy game, but it doesn't come with any of the other downloadable additions made available on the Xbox 360.)

There you have it, your claim of GS holding PS3 games to a higher standard just flew out the window.

hahaha, I knew you would say that.

When the original X360 game released, are you saying they based that score on the downloadable content released over the next year?  It looked inferior in graphics as well, remember that. 

We are comparing the game that was released in March of 2006 to the PS3 version released in March of 2007.  The reviewer basically put it's a wash with the CURRENT state of X360/PC version.  What I'm saying is if you people are going to count scores back then when it's clear they rated the games higher for NO REASON other than no other competition existed at that time, it's a flawed comparison.

Just the fact your excuse starts off by saying it was reviewed by two separate people makes my point stand out even more.  To truely be a fair comparison you have to make sure the same guy reviewed both X360 & PS3 games.  Obviously as we have seen here opinions vary on what is good, for all we know the person rating Perfect Dark a AAA was smoking some of M$ marketing dollars :P  (that was a joke, not being serious about that comment)

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#225 -The-G-Man-
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So is this entire thread

outcasthero

All reviews are opinions.  But on System Wars that's what is gone by.  It's not going to start changing now.

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#226 -The-G-Man-
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Modded for disruptive posting? Tell me, Casey....what did I do that was disruptive? Disagree with you perhaps?outcasthero

Actually it's probably for quoting over five posts; five is the max or you get modded for disruptive posting.

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#227 MoldOnHold
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Yeah, it did not take over a year.

COD2, PGR3 were "good" games. And they came out at launch. :|
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#228 gingerdivid
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Damn Casey, you sure do seem to like putting Shungokustasu in his place...Verge_6

Please, I'm in no competition with that guy. Don't make it seem like it. Actually his views on gaming are similar to mine. The only difference is I man enough to have loyalty to a company.

I don't think showing loyalty to a company makes you a 'man' :?

If anything, it makes you seem childish for not choosing to enjoy everything all three companies have to offer

*off topic* Your sig shows a strong resemblance of Killzone's Hellgahn. Is that what it is?
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#229 Lambo2468
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[QUOTE="Lambo2468"] that game is nothing to resistance , and its funny that on many other websites/mags , Resistance got 9...and GS gives it one of its lowest scores-The-G-Man-

So because you like Resistance more than Perfect Dark Zero that means that it's automatically better than Perfect Dark no matter what anyone else says? 

And on Gamerankings, Resistance still doesn't have a AAA score.

No , but compare grahpics , gameplay , physics , sound , online , possible story (i dont know what PDZ is about) resistance wins on each , and i didnt say GR , theres plenty of other websites
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#230 MrGrimFandango
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Were the staff taking bets on how many fanboys you could possibly own in one thread?
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#231 MoldOnHold
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[QUOTE="outcasthero"]Modded for disruptive posting? Tell me, Casey....what did I do that was disruptive? Disagree with you perhaps?-The-G-Man-

Actually it's probably for quoting over five posts; five is the max or you get modded for disruptive posting.

And yet there are 5+ quote chains everywhere. Every SW topic has 'em.
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#232 Lambo2468
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[QUOTE="Lambo2468"] that game is nothing to resistance , and its funny that on many other websites/mags , Resistance got 9...and GS gives it one of its lowest scores-The-G-Man-

So because you like Resistance more than Perfect Dark Zero that means that it's automatically better than Perfect Dark no matter what anyone else says? 

And on Gamerankings, Resistance still doesn't have a AAA score.

No , but compare graphics , gameplay , physics , sound , online , possible story (i dont know what PDZ is about) resistance wins on each , and i didnt say GR , theres plenty of other websites
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#234 -The-G-Man-
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but nearly every single PS3 game , even Motorstorm , it got 7.9 , and i dont care what they say but thats not fair , it at least deserves around 8.5Lambo2468

The value really hurt the score; Motorstorm got a 6 in value and an 8 or 9 in every other category.

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#235 TobiasNevernude
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[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

[QUOTE="Lambo2468"] that game is nothing to resistance , and its funny that on many other websites/mags , Resistance got 9...and GS gives it one of its lowest scoresLambo2468

So because you like Resistance more than Perfect Dark Zero that means that it's automatically better than Perfect Dark no matter what anyone else says?

And on Gamerankings, Resistance still doesn't have a AAA score.

No , but compare graphics , gameplay , physics , sound , online , possible story (i dont know what PDZ is about) resistance wins on each , and i didnt say GR , theres plenty of other websites

I stopped reading your post when you said "I don't know what PDZ is about".  

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#236 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Damn Casey, you sure do seem to like putting Shungokustasu in his place...gingerdivid

Please, I'm in no competition with that guy. Don't make it seem like it. Actually his views on gaming are similar to mine. The only difference is I man enough to have loyalty to a company.

I don't think showing loyalty to a company makes you a 'man' :?

If anything, it makes you seem childish for not choosing to enjoy everything all three companies have to offer

*off topic* Your sig shows a strong resemblance of Killzone's Hellgahn. Is that what it is?

Yeah, they do resemble the Helghast, you're right....

They are the Kerberos of the anime Jin Roh, a policing unit in an alternate version of Japan where the Nazis won the Second World War. They hunt down and kill anyone opposing the government, or suspected of.

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#237 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

[QUOTE="Lambo2468"] that game is nothing to resistance , and its funny that on many other websites/mags , Resistance got 9...and GS gives it one of its lowest scoresLambo2468

So because you like Resistance more than Perfect Dark Zero that means that it's automatically better than Perfect Dark no matter what anyone else says? 

And on Gamerankings, Resistance still doesn't have a AAA score.

No , but compare graphics , gameplay , physics , sound , online , possible story (i dont know what PDZ is about) resistance wins on each , and i didnt say GR , theres plenty of other websites

but gr gets more credibility since it has more than one opinion on the game. it has 30-40-50-60-70 depending on the game. THat sites score holds more weight then say and ign or a 1up, or gameinformer.
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#238 gingerdivid
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[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

[QUOTE="Lambo2468"] that game is nothing to resistance , and its funny that on many other websites/mags , Resistance got 9...and GS gives it one of its lowest scoresLambo2468

So because you like Resistance more than Perfect Dark Zero that means that it's automatically better than Perfect Dark no matter what anyone else says?

And on Gamerankings, Resistance still doesn't have a AAA score.

No , but compare graphics , gameplay , physics , sound , online , possible story (i dont know what PDZ is about) resistance wins on each , and i didnt say GR , theres plenty of other websites

The standards differ, one was released a whole year after the other. It's inevitable that Resistance is likely to be the better game. 

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#239 MoldOnHold
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No , but compare graphics , gameplay , physics , sound , online , possible story (i dont know what PDZ is about) resistance wins on each , and i didnt say GR , theres plenty of other websitesLambo2468
Eh, opinion? :| If you think R:FOM is a better game, that's good for you. I think the same thing. But you can't hate on GS for having their own opinion.
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#240 -The-G-Man-
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[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

[QUOTE="Lambo2468"] that game is nothing to resistance , and its funny that on many other websites/mags , Resistance got 9...and GS gives it one of its lowest scoresLambo2468

So because you like Resistance more than Perfect Dark Zero that means that it's automatically better than Perfect Dark no matter what anyone else says? 

And on Gamerankings, Resistance still doesn't have a AAA score.

No , but compare graphics , gameplay , physics , sound , online , possible story (i dont know what PDZ is about) resistance wins on each , and i didnt say GR , theres plenty of other websites

Gamerankings averages up the score from other websites to get their scores.  Gameplay is an opinion.  And the graphics, sound, etc. probably got rated lower because the two are a year apart.  And so Resistance wins in each even though you admit to not knowing what the story to PDZ is?  Wow.

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#241 demoralizer
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[QUOTE="demoralizer"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

I'll say this again, PS3 games are held to higher standard than the original X360 games were when they were released.  PS3 games were being rated at a time when X360 started releasing their best games (both 1st/2nd/3rd party games).

Now I know you've said before gamespot does not do that....meaning they wouldn't rate a PS3 game lower because it's being judged against 2nd generation X360 games.  I ask this, why then did PS3 Oblivion actually score LOWER than the X360 version that was released a year earlier?

Reading the review of the PS3, it's stated quite clearly the PS3 version is better graphically and content wise than the original release of the X360 version.  So why would it actually get a lower score?  If what you have said previously was true and when a title is released doesnt' matter, why didn't PS3 version score higher or at the very least the same score?

darthogre

 There were two different reviewers, Greg Kasavin and Greg Mueller. Their opinions will differ.

The games scored the same in terms of tilt, value, graphics, and gameplay. Only the PS3 version scored lower on sound.

Aslso Mueller also states (The PlayStation 3 version of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion is every bit as impressive as the Xbox 360 and PC versions. However, this isn't necessarily the best version of the game. This version does come with the Knights of the Nine add-on, which will add about 10 hours of gameplay to the already lengthy game, but it doesn't come with any of the other downloadable additions made available on the Xbox 360.)

There you have it, your claim of GS holding PS3 games to a higher standard just flew out the window.

hahaha, I knew you would say that.

When the original X360 game released, are you saying they based that score on the downloadable content released over the next year?  It looked inferior in graphics as well, remember that. 

We are comparing the game that was released in March of 2006 to the PS3 version released in March of 2007.  The reviewer basically put it's a wash with the CURRENT state of X360/PC version.  What I'm saying is if you people are going to count scores back then when it's clear they rated the games higher for NO REASON other than no other competition existed at that time, it's a flawed comparison.

Just the fact your excuse starts off by saying it was reviewed by two separate people makes my point stand out even more.  To truely be a fair comparison you have to make sure the same guy reviewed both X360 & PS3 games.  Obviously as we have seen here opinions vary on what is good, for all we know the person rating Perfect Dark a AAA was smoking some of M$ marketing dollars :P  (that was a joke, not being serious about that comment)

It never was a truely fair comparison you tried to say it was to justify your claims.

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#242 TheDarkDisciple
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[QUOTE="demoralizer"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

I'll say this again, PS3 games are held to higher standard than the original X360 games were when they were released.  PS3 games were being rated at a time when X360 started releasing their best games (both 1st/2nd/3rd party games).

Now I know you've said before gamespot does not do that....meaning they wouldn't rate a PS3 game lower because it's being judged against 2nd generation X360 games.  I ask this, why then did PS3 Oblivion actually score LOWER than the X360 version that was released a year earlier?

Reading the review of the PS3, it's stated quite clearly the PS3 version is better graphically and content wise than the original release of the X360 version.  So why would it actually get a lower score?  If what you have said previously was true and when a title is released doesnt' matter, why didn't PS3 version score higher or at the very least the same score?

darthogre

 There were two different reviewers, Greg Kasavin and Greg Mueller. Their opinions will differ.

The games scored the same in terms of tilt, value, graphics, and gameplay. Only the PS3 version scored lower on sound.

Aslso Mueller also states (The PlayStation 3 version of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion is every bit as impressive as the Xbox 360 and PC versions. However, this isn't necessarily the best version of the game. This version does come with the Knights of the Nine add-on, which will add about 10 hours of gameplay to the already lengthy game, but it doesn't come with any of the other downloadable additions made available on the Xbox 360.)

There you have it, your claim of GS holding PS3 games to a higher standard just flew out the window.

hahaha, I knew you would say that.

When the original X360 game released, are you saying they based that score on the downloadable content released over the next year?  It looked inferior in graphics as well, remember that. 

We are comparing the game that was released in March of 2006 to the PS3 version released in March of 2007.  The reviewer basically put it's a wash with the CURRENT state of X360/PC version.  What I'm saying is if you people are going to count scores back then when it's clear they rated the games higher for NO REASON other than no other competition existed at that time, it's a flawed comparison.

Just the fact your excuse starts off by saying it was reviewed by two separate people makes my point stand out even more.  To truely be a fair comparison you have to make sure the same guy reviewed both X360 & PS3 games.  Obviously as we have seen here opinions vary on what is good, for all we know the person rating Perfect Dark a AAA was smoking some of M$ marketing dollars :P  (that was a joke, not being serious about that comment)

actually, i'm surprised the ps3 version of Oblivion got as high as 9.5.

They apparently believe that the downloadable content > 1 year later with minor graphical improvements.

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#243 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Damn Casey, you sure do seem to like putting Shungokustasu in his place...Verge_6

Please, I'm in no competition with that guy. Don't make it seem like it. Actually his views on gaming are similar to mine. The only difference is I man enough to have loyalty to a company.

I don't think showing loyalty to a company makes you a 'man' :?

If anything, it makes you seem childish for not choosing to enjoy everything all three companies have to offer 

It isn't just Playstation, it's Sony.

And, there's nothing stranger to me than loyalty to a company :?.  It's VERY VERY alien.

I buy what I buy because of quality, need, and price.  Not because I trust or don't trust said company.  For instance, I fully expect MP3 and Starcraft 2 to get AAA, or AA, or A.  I mean, they're good franchises/developers... but, that doesn't mean they will be tomorrow.  I guess it comes down to research, regardless of what you're buying, not just who makes something.

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#245 outcasthero
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[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

[QUOTE="outcasthero"]Modded for disruptive posting? Tell me, Casey....what did I do that was disruptive? Disagree with you perhaps?MoldOnHold

Actually it's probably for quoting over five posts; five is the max or you get modded for disruptive posting.

And yet there are 5+ quote chains everywhere. Every SW topic has 'em.

 

Indeed

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#246 -The-G-Man-
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[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

[QUOTE="outcasthero"]Modded for disruptive posting? Tell me, Casey....what did I do that was disruptive? Disagree with you perhaps?outcasthero

Actually it's probably for quoting over five posts; five is the max or you get modded for disruptive posting.

And yet there are 5+ quote chains everywhere. Every SW topic has 'em.

 

Indeed

And how do you know Casey isn't going through the thread checking for them?  How do you know other people didn't get modded?  Not everyone has an outburst whenever they get modded.

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#247 Lambo2468
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[QUOTE="Lambo2468"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

[QUOTE="Lambo2468"] that game is nothing to resistance , and its funny that on many other websites/mags , Resistance got 9...and GS gives it one of its lowest scoresTobiasNevernude

So because you like Resistance more than Perfect Dark Zero that means that it's automatically better than Perfect Dark no matter what anyone else says?

And on Gamerankings, Resistance still doesn't have a AAA score.

No , but compare graphics , gameplay , physics , sound , online , possible story (i dont know what PDZ is about) resistance wins on each , and i didnt say GR , theres plenty of other websites

I stopped reading your post when you said "I don't know what PDZ is about".  

eh...the storyline...
[QUOTE="Lambo2468"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

[QUOTE="Lambo2468"] that game is nothing to resistance , and its funny that on many other websites/mags , Resistance got 9...and GS gives it one of its lowest scoresjg4xchamp

So because you like Resistance more than Perfect Dark Zero that means that it's automatically better than Perfect Dark no matter what anyone else says? 

And on Gamerankings, Resistance still doesn't have a AAA score.

No , but compare graphics , gameplay , physics , sound , online , possible story (i dont know what PDZ is about) resistance wins on each , and i didnt say GR , theres plenty of other websites

but gr gets more credibility since it has more than one opinion on the game. it has 30-40-50-60-70 depending on the game. THat sites score holds more weight then say and ign or a 1up, or gameinformer.

yeah but averaging the score from different websites does lower the score
[QUOTE="Lambo2468"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

[QUOTE="Lambo2468"] that game is nothing to resistance , and its funny that on many other websites/mags , Resistance got 9...and GS gives it one of its lowest scores-The-G-Man-

So because you like Resistance more than Perfect Dark Zero that means that it's automatically better than Perfect Dark no matter what anyone else says? 

And on Gamerankings, Resistance still doesn't have a AAA score.

No , but compare graphics , gameplay , physics , sound , online , possible story (i dont know what PDZ is about) resistance wins on each , and i didnt say GR , theres plenty of other websites

Gamerankings averages up the score from other websites to get their scores.  Gameplay is an opinion.  And the graphics, sound, etc. probably got rated lower because the PS3 is suppoed to be the most powerful console on the market, remember?

well you cant actually compare resistance to past or future games , since it was one of the first
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#248 CaseyWegner
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Modded for disruptive posting? Tell me, Casey....what did I do that was disruptive? Disagree with you perhaps?outcasthero

you had more than 5 quotes in your quote chain.

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#249 outcasthero
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[QUOTE="outcasthero"][QUOTE="MoldOnHold"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

[QUOTE="outcasthero"]Modded for disruptive posting? Tell me, Casey....what did I do that was disruptive? Disagree with you perhaps?-The-G-Man-

Actually it's probably for quoting over five posts; five is the max or you get modded for disruptive posting.

And yet there are 5+ quote chains everywhere. Every SW topic has 'em.

 

Indeed

And how do you know Casey isn't going through the thread checking for them?  How do you know other people didn't get modded?  Not everyone has an outburst whenever they get modded.

 

LOL...did I say that he wasn't? Also, I hardly had an "outburst.":lol: I merely asked why with my own little joke as an added comment, and said nothing else. Who are you, his personal representitve?

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#250 -The-G-Man-
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well you cant actually compare resistance to past or future games , since it was one of the firstLambo2468

And yet you were doing it anyway.