It's over, Crysis 2 on 360 is sub hd confirmed.

From how these games look on my set...

Slight horizontal res drops don't bother me. Crysis 2 looks sharp like Halo Reach. Games with vertical res drops bother me. Games with horizontal and vertical res drops bothers me greatly. The game retains it's 720p res... And that's still good with me.

See this is good

This is the very definition of sub HD

And lastly (for comedic effect)... Here's what happens when AA ruins the sharpness of a native 720p game... Making you think it's Sub HD

Its gonna be interesting to see how the PS3 version runs.

it is 1080p since there are 1080 progressive lines that is 1080p! the term not to be associated with 1280x1080 is "Full HD" which is. 1920x1080

sts106mat

Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATSC_Standards

The high definition television standards defined by the ATSC produce wide screen 16:9 images up to 1920×1080 pixels in size

Question: who didn't know the console versions of Crysis 2 weren't so hot (small complaints about the res aside - I mean it is still x720)?

To people who contend that only the 720 rows matter:

Is 1000x720 HD?

Is 500x720 HD?

Is 1x720 HD?

If yes, I have nothing more to argue about with you.

If no - please specify the point of horizontal resolution at which HD stops being HD.

KiZZo1

So what does 1280x1080 or 1365x768 mean to you for consoles?

Question: who didn't know the console versions of Crysis 2 weren't so hot (small complaints about the res aside - I mean it is still x720)?

psn8214

I'll take 1152x720 over 1280x640

the ps3 won't be any better if we are to believe what the pixel guy said, but I don't believe that the EDRAM is the only factor to take into account. by that guy's logic, then the ps3 version will run at 320x240???

that's buttocks ugly

the ps3 won't be any better if we are to believe what the pixel guy said, but I don't believe that the EDRAM is the only factor to take into account. by that guy's logic, then the ps3 version will run at 320x240???

aia89

Another poster on Beyond 3D thinks it could have an even lower, I'm guessing horizontal res.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1516481&postcount=2265

Honestly I'm not so surprised since Cryengine 3 is deferred renderer and it takes alot of memory for frame buffer and since in 360 it needs to fit to 10mb of eDRAM i guess you can't blame them.And really,its not that its sub hd like AW or COD.Its couple thousand pixels less than 1280x720p.

And I mean having HDR,deferred lighting,real time global illumination,IMO best looking motion blur(and per object motion blur) on consoles,24/7 cycle which means NOTHING can be prebaked etc. you can't really blame them.If only they ditched something for that extra few pixels so people would be satisfied.

I think it's BS people make forty page thread about a few pixels, but when someone brings up PC, then you know, doesn't matter 1080p - 720p no difference, same thing, same expereience...

the ps3 won't be any better if we are to believe what the pixel guy said, but I don't believe that the EDRAM is the only factor to take into account. by that guy's logic, then the ps3 version will run at 320x240???

aia89

The thing is if you are going with 360 and you have deferred rendering engine you will have VERY big frame buffer,about 30+ mb with PS3 you store that in main memory so you can have 50mb of it,it does not mater but with 360 you HAVE to store it in eDRAM and the only way to fit it is to "slice" those 30 in 2-3 smaller ones but you will have HAAARD time to keep 720p resolution with it.

What's over? GeneralShowzer

And I mean having HDR,deferred lighting,real time global illumination,IMO best looking motion blur(and per object motion blur) on consoles etc. you can't really blame them.If only they ditched something for that extra few pixels so people would be satisfied.

Bus-A-Bus

You're missing another one;)

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1516442&postcount=1331

Haha Crysis 2 on Xbox360 is Sub HD :lol:

1. Dead Space 2 get AA on 360 while AAA on Ps3

2. Few amount of Exlcusive

3. and now this Sub HD

its really a bad year for 360

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

And I mean having HDR,deferred lighting,real time global illumination,IMO best looking motion blur(and per object motion blur) on consoles etc. you can't really blame them.If only they ditched something for that extra few pixels so people would be satisfied.

CorbraMax

You're missing another one;)

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1516442&postcount=1331

And that also...I mean,Its clearly a game that,tech wise,is more impressive then ANY other console game.Couple thousand less pixels won't change that,its not like its 1024x600 or something like that,you will BARELY notice it.

Crytek has gone for the solution different from GG.They have HDR,they have real time GI and they have real time shadows for everything cus Crysis 2 will have 24/7 day cycle.You CAN'T blame them for few pixels less.I still think that NO console games pushes hardware as far as Crysis 2 does and SP will prove it.

Its just that these consoles are getting old and 512 mb is not enough to give you all the tech Crysis 2 is pushing.Give me a new consoles ASAP. :)

so what says SW? should we exclude Crysis 2 from the console graphics king battle?

Haha Crysis 2 on Xbox360 is Sub HD :lol:

1. Dead Space 2 get AA on 360 while AAA on Ps3

2. Few amount of Exlcusive

3. and now this Sub HD

its really a bad year for 360

-ScorpionKing

so what says SW? should we exclude Crysis 2 from the console graphics king battle?

aia89

Of course not.Wait for SP.1152x720 is almostindistinguishable from 1280x720 at least for system wariors.I guess HDR,dynamic lighting and best post processing on consoles will have more influence on it than slightly reduced resolution.BUT,maybe PS3 version will be 1280x720 so who knows...

Other than a few pop ins and the lack of some pixels i couldnt even notice, i think that the game looks really great. Still i believe that the campaign wont have any of these problems.

[QUOTE="aia89"]

so what says SW? should we exclude Crysis 2 from the console graphics king battle?

sts106mat

we should rename the groups

there is casuals, hardcore and pixel counters

I hope they don't mess with PC version

1152 x 720? that's almost psp2 resolution :lol:

600%?

Are you guys f***ing serious?

[QUOTE="aia89"]

so what says SW? should we exclude Crysis 2 from the console graphics king battle?

Bus-A-Bus

Of course not.Wait for SP.1152x720 is almostindistinguishable from 1280x720 at least for system wariors.I guess HDR,dynamic lighting and best post processing on consoles will have more influence on it than slightly reduced resolution.BUT,maybe PS3 version will be 1280x720 so who knows...

TLHBO

The Lemmings have been owned.

Lucianu

Credit to the pixel counter Mazingerdude who finally confirmed the native resolution to be 1152 x 720p which is the same as Halo Reach.

And so this so called graphics king follows the tradition of its predecessor "Alan Wake" "Halo Reach" and ultimately failed to live up to the advertised trailers and Bullshots. Now hope the PS3 version is at least 720p so that it can somewhat put up a decent fight with killzone 3 maybe?

gpuking

yay, time for cows to celebrate right? funny that you seemed to miss alot of games like Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo 5 and Haze from your list of games which failed to live upto the hype of graphics king. however, i can't help feeling there was another sub-HD PS3 game whos graphics were praised non-stop and was even gifted the title of console graphics king, but seems immune from the same criticism 360 games seem to get for having low resolutions.

what makes me think you weren't hoping the 360 version was at least 720p 'so that it could somewhat put up a decent fight with killzone 3'

it does seem odd to me that after alot of declaring things like 'cows have nothing to prove with Crysis 2', that they would be so desperate to discredit the games graphics before its even released.

[QUOTE="gpuking"][QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

Of course not.Wait for SP.1152x720 is almostindistinguishable from 1280x720 at least for system wariors.I guess HDR,dynamic lighting and best post processing on consoles will have more influence on it than slightly reduced resolution.BUT,maybe PS3 version will be 1280x720 so who knows...

sts106mat

[QUOTE="gpuking"]

Credit to the pixel counter Mazingerdude who finally confirmed the native resolution to be 1152 x 720p which is the same as Halo Reach.

And so this so called graphics king follows the tradition of its predecessor "Alan Wake" "Halo Reach" and ultimately failed to live up to the advertised trailers and Bullshots. Now hope the PS3 version is at least 720p so that it can somewhat put up a decent fight with killzone 3 maybe?

marklarmer

yay, time for cows to celebrate right? funny that you seemed to miss alot of games like Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo 5 and Haze from your list of games which failed to live upto the hype of graphics king. however, i can't help feeling there was another sub-HD PS3 game whos graphics were praised non-stop and was even gifted the title of console graphics king, but seems immune from the same criticism 360 games seem to get for having low resolutions.

what makes me think you weren't hoping the 360 version was at least 720p 'so that it could somewhat put up a decent fight with killzone 3'

it does seem odd to me that after alot of declaring things like 'cows have nothing to prove with Crysis 2', that they would be so desperate to discredit the games graphics before its even released.

your talking about something that needs to magnified 600x to be measurable.sts106mat

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

[QUOTE="gpuking"]

Credit to the pixel counter Mazingerdude who finally confirmed the native resolution to be 1152 x 720p which is the same as Halo Reach.

And so thisso called graphics kingfollows the tradition of its predecessor "Alan Wake" "Halo Reach" and ultimately failed to live up to the advertised trailers and Bullshots. Now hope the PS3 version is at least 720p so that it can somewhat put up a decent fight with killzone 3 maybe?

gpuking

yay, time for cows to celebrate right? funny that you seemed to miss alot of games like Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo 5 and Haze from your list of games which failed to live upto the hype of graphics king. however, i can't help feeling there was anothersub-HDPS3 game whos graphics were praised non-stop and was even gifted the title of console graphics king, but seems immune from the same criticism 360 games seem to get for having low resolutions.

what makes me thinkyouweren't hoping the360 versionwas at least 720p 'so that it could somewhat put up a decent fight with killzone 3'

it does seem odd to me that after alot of declaring things like 'cows have nothing to prove with Crysis 2', that they would be so desperate to discredit the games graphics before its even released.

i don't understand, or i think its more you don't understand; you've cherry-picked a couple of 360 games that were labelled 'so called graphics king', who were you referring to exactly when you said 'so called'? just you, or an actual meaningful amount of people.

all i did was list other games which were hyped by alot of people here as console graphics king, hell Haze was compared to Crysis.

all i see here is alot of people desperate to discredit the games graphics before its even been shown properly, i just find it unbelievably hypocritical that whenever multiplayer screens of Uncharted 2 are posted, people just pretend they don't represent the games graphics or even that they're fake, yet as soon as the first Crysis 2 beta screens were posted the same people are here criticising the graphics and using phrases like 'its over'.

the single player is hd. ur screen shot is from mp online game. all online games on console hav worste graphics that playing it single player.

Honestly I'm not so surprised since Cryengine 3 is deferred renderer and it takes alot of memory for frame buffer and since in 360 it needs to fit to 10mb of eDRAM i guess you can't blame them.And really,its not that its sub hd like AW or COD.Its couple thousand pixels less than 1280x720p.

Bus-A-Bus

And I mean having HDR,deferred lighting,real time global illumination,IMO best looking motion blur(and per object motion blur) on consoles,24/7 cycle which means NOTHING can be prebaked etc. you can't really blame them.If only they ditched something for that extra few pixels so people would be satisfied.

Bus-A-Bus

zoom in on your face that close and see what you get, yah, crysis 2 is looking pretty good now isn't it?