I've seen apple computers getting a bad rep here

basically saying that you pay more for an apple computer that you would for a PC but the apple's hardware is inferior.

Is this true?

For the price of an apple computer I could build a much better PC.

Yep. It's true.

For the price of an apple computer I could build a much better PC.

Ragnarok1051

When it comes to gaming they're inferior. Other than that it's up for debate... but not here.

basically saying that you pay more for an apple computer that you would for a PC but the apple's hardware is inferior.

Is this true?

kolkov01

They use laptop parts in most of their desktops and charge a premium price for them.

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For the price of an apple computer I could build a much better PC.

kolkov01

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

For the price of an apple computer I could build a much better PC.

kolkov01

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For the price of an apple computer I could build a much better PC.

KHAndAnime

They are basicly targeted to people who know nothing about computer hardware. Just like Alienware

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For the price of an apple computer I could build a much better PC.

KHAndAnime

After all, from what I undestand a lot of businesses prefer Macs over windows.

what's deal with that?

[QUOTE="kolkov01"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] Cheapest Mac = $1,200. You can build a very excellent gaming PC for that price.shadow_hosi

You can also use the same adobe programs and stuff on the PC that you can on a Mac

I suggest reading this: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant

The BBC use windows based machines for all their video editing.

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="kolkov01"] can you provide an examplekolkov01

After all, from what I undestand a lot of businesses prefer Macs over windows.

what's deal with that?

3DMark? As in benchmarking? The PC would be far superior. In video editing, the Mac might possibly be a few seconds faster, but ultimately it's something that doesn't really matter.KHAndAnime

Because the businesses don't know enough nor don't care enough to know. KHAndAnime

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] 3DMark? As in benchmarking? The PC would be far superior. In video editing, the Mac might possibly be a few seconds faster, but ultimately it's something that doesn't really matter.kolkov01

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] 3DMark? As in benchmarking? The PC would be far superior. In video editing, the Mac might possibly be a few seconds faster, but ultimately it's something that doesn't really matter.kolkov01

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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] 3DMark? As in benchmarking? The PC would be far superior. In video editing, the Mac might possibly be a few seconds faster, but ultimately it's something that doesn't really matter.Stevo_the_gamer

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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] 3DMark? As in benchmarking? The PC would be far superior. In video editing, the Mac might possibly be a few seconds faster, but ultimately it's something that doesn't really matter.Stevo_the_gamer

After all, from what I undestand a lot of businesses prefer Macs over windows.

what's deal with that?

kolkov01

There are not a lot of businesses that prefer Macs for actual business use. The ratio is somewhere around 95% to 5% in reality, although there are some people in business that use Macs for personal use. I can tell you from experience, Mac networks are terrible and barely any Macs support any of the major accounting, real estate, book-keeping, contact management, etc software without installing windows as second OS which is just dumb. Hardly any business or gamers use Apple computers. They are meant for photography, graphic design, and teenage girls.

[QUOTE="kolkov01"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] Because the businesses don't know enough nor don't care enough to know. KHAndAnime

I'm actually trying to gather some ammo.

My bro is a mac fanboy and today I told him that from what I heard on gamespot PC's are cheaper and faster then MACs

but he basically says that they're only better if you compare to the low tier macs, that a macbook pro beats the PC (not in gaming) but in video software, architecture and that's the reason why a lot of companies prefer macs

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After all, from what I undestand a lot of businesses prefer Macs over windows.

what's deal with that?

tempest91

There are not a lot of businesses that prefer Macs for actual business use. The ratio is somewhere around 95% to 5% in reality, although there are some people in business that use Macs for personal use. I can tell you from experience, Mac networks are terrible and barely any Macs support any of the major accounting, real estate, book-keeping, contact management, etc software without installing windows as second OS which is just dumb. Hardly any business or gamers use Apple computers. They are meant for photography, graphic design, and teenage girls.

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After all, from what I undestand a lot of businesses prefer Macs over windows.

what's deal with that?

akbar13

There are not a lot of businesses that prefer Macs for actual business use. The ratio is somewhere around 95% to 5% in reality, although there are some people in business that use Macs for personal use. I can tell you from experience, Mac networks are terrible and barely any Macs support any of the major accounting, real estate, book-keeping, contact management, etc software without installing windows as second OS which is just dumb. Hardly any business or gamers use Apple computers. They are meant for photography, graphic design, and teenage girls.

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For the price of an apple computer I could build a much better PC.

kolkov01

From the apple store:

3.06GHz Intel Core 2 Duo

1920 x 1080 resolution

4GB memory

1TB hard drive

8x double-layer SuperDrive

ATI Radeon HD 4670 graphics with 256MB

Total cost - $1499

Using Newegg a similar windows computer would cost:

CPU - $144

27" Monitor - $240 (Samsung 24" - 1920 x 1080)

4 GB DDR3 PC3 10600 Memory - $99

1 TB Western Digital HD $99

ATI Radeon HD 4670 w 1GB video Ram - $69 (That's 4 times the video ram on the mac)

Antec 900 Case - $99

Cosair 650W Power Supply - $89

Asus P5QL MB - $99

DVD-R - $30

Total - $824

And consider that

- Each of the PC componenets are as good or in most cases a good deal better than the Apple counter part (4 x the ram on the video card, DDR3 Ram, Top of the line Cassis, better than needed power supply.

- The PC could be optimized a lot giving you more bang for your buck instead of going by what apple uses in their machines

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="kolkov01"] can you provide an examplekolkov01

After all, from what I undestand a lot of businesses prefer Macs over windows.

what's deal with that?

The majority of businesses uses Windows.

Back on topic Macs are horribly overpriced, and provide inferior performance for that price. Buying a brandname, whereas my custom built PC cost me 1700 to build, and my cousin just recently bought a 3000.00 Macbook pro, and my PC destroyed it in every conceivable way.

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="kolkov01"] I find that... hard to believe :?kolkov01

I'm actually trying to gather some ammo.

My bro is a mac fanboy and today I told him that from what I heard on gamespot PC's are cheaper and faster then MACs

but he basically says that they're only better if you compare to the low tier macs, that a macbook pro beats the PC (not in gaming) but in video software, architecture and that's the reason why a lot of companies prefer macs

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="kolkov01"] I find that... hard to believe :?kolkov01

I'm actually trying to gather some ammo.

My bro is a mac fanboy and today I told him that from what I heard on gamespot PC's are cheaper and faster then MACs

but he basically says that they're only better if you compare to the low tier macs, that a macbook pro beats the PC (not in gaming) but in video software, architecture and that's the reason why a lot of companies prefer macs

Hardly any companies use macs. They have zero software support for business software besides their lame version of office. They are terrible for networking, terrible for IT support, and are not used in more than a very small percentage of businesses for actual business use. Somewhere around 5%. He is brainwashed by his elitist fantasies.

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="kolkov01"] I find that... hard to believe :?kolkov01

I'm actually trying to gather some ammo.

My bro is a mac fanboy and today I told him that from what I heard on gamespot PC's are cheaper and faster then MACs

but he basically says that they're only better if you compare to the low tier macs, that a macbook pro beats the PC (not in gaming) but in video software, architecture and that's the reason why a lot of companies prefer macs

MacBook Pro delivers both powerful graphics performance and long battery life. Every MacBook Pro features the NVIDIA GeForce 9400M integrated graphics processor, which provides an outstanding everyday graphics experience with up to a 5x performance boost.1 Power your way through the latest 3D games — including Call of Duty and Quake — and enjoy improved graphics performance with iWork, iLife, and everything you do in Mac OS X. The power-saving NVIDIA integrated graphics processor also keeps you up and running throughout the day, with up to 7 hours of battery life on the 13- and 15-inch MacBook Pro and up to 8 hours on the 17-inch MacBook Pro.2

NVIDIA Geforce 9400m sucks so bad its not even funny.And you can use all the programs that are good for video editing on a PC that you can use on a Mac. Programs like iMovie are bad an nobdy that wants to edit videos professionally would use that.

I don't see how Macs are used for photography and graphics design. What makes those better on a mac than on a PC?akbar13

Macs were the first PCs to provide graphical user interaction. The first graphic design programs were made for the first Macs and then gradually evolved.

They are "better" because their user is used to their interface, and adapting to a new interface usually is a huge waste of time.

Yes, this is true. But OSX is better than Windows which is why I use it.Rippou

OSX is not better it's just different. Every OS has its flaws.

[QUOTE="Rippou"]Yes, this is true. But OSX is better than Windows which is why I use it.tempest91

OSX is not better it's just different. Every OS has its flaws.

They are extremely overpriced just like alienware. You can easily build yourself a much better computer with a total cost less than that of an alienware comp or Mac and still have the same performance or better.

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[QUOTE="Rippou"]Yes, this is true. But OSX is better than Windows which is why I use it.Rippou

OSX is not better it's just different. Every OS has its flaws.

I fix problems in both every day. OSX has so many flaws that it's not even funny, not to mention its terrible software support and journaled file system. I cringe every time I have to use it. I've yet to meet one Mac user that knows their system password so I can run the Apple updates that they didn't even know existed. I pray that you are better than this.

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OSX is not better it's just different. Every OS has its flaws.

tempest91

I fix problems in both every day. OSX has so many flaws that it's not even funny, not to mention its terrible software support and journaled file system. I cringe every time I have to use it. I've yet to meet one Mac user that knows their system password so I can run the Apple updates that they didn't even know existed. I pray that you are better than this.

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="kolkov01"] can you provide an exampleshadow_hosi

Did you buy each individual part (cpu, gpu, motherboard etc.) with the sole intent of saving money and looking for deals when you built it ?

They are extremely overpriced just like alienware. You can easily build yourself a much better computer with a total cost less than that of an alienware comp or Mac and still have the same performance or better.

RadecSupreme

You're talking to someone who used a Windows PC all his life, and has fixed all 6 PC's he owned from anything they had wrong with them. Again, I never said OSX didn't have issues. To assume because I own a Mac I don't know my system password is ignorance.Rippou

Nope, I'd say it's experience :P

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[QUOTE="Rippou"] It's my opinion from using both :| Never said OSX didn't have flaws.Rippou

I fix problems in both every day. OSX has so many flaws that it's not even funny, not to mention its terrible software support and journaled file system. I cringe every time I have to use it. I've yet to meet one Mac user that knows their system password so I can run the Apple updates that they didn't even know existed. I pray that you are better than this.

I didn't assume everything, i was only generalizing my own clients. My only question is, why do you like OSX better knowing as much as you do about OS's? I'm just curious.

[QUOTE="Rippou"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

I fix problems in both every day. OSX has so many flaws that it's not even funny, not to mention its terrible software support and journaled file system. I cringe every time I have to use it. I've yet to meet one Mac user that knows their system password so I can run the Apple updates that they didn't even know existed. I pray that you are better than this.

tempest91

I didn't assume everything, i was only generalizing my own clients. My only question is, why do you like OSX better knowing as much as you do about OS's? I'm just curious.