Killzone 2 - An end to damage control!

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#1 thetruespin
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Look, it's really quite simple:

  • Killzone 2 is a really good game, up there with the Halos and Gears of Wars
  • Killzone 2 scored a 9 on gamespot and similarly high scores elsewhere.
  • Killzone 2 is the best looking console game at the moment. No, it does not look better than Crysis
  • Killzone 2 will probably not stay the best looking console game
  • Killzone 2 does not do a lot new, but it perfects a lot of tried and tested gameplay elements, creating something unique in the process
  • Whether Killzone 2 is better than Halo 3 is simply a matter of opinion
  • Killzone 2 is great fun and, if the huge amount of posts are anything to go by, will be talked about for many months if not years to come.
  • Killzone 2 was a lot better than people expected

And that really is all there is to it!

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#2 lundy86_4
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This is probably going to end like the "KZ2 Epic Fail" thread. I mean I counted at least 2 new fanboy accts for that thread.

However I agree with all of your points, they are though out, use common-sense, and are not fanboyish. Thank you

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#3 killerfist
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Look, it's really quite simple: GET OVER IT!thetruespin
Fixed. I pretty much agree with all what you said, but a new topic on this is useless. This will take a long time before it ends.
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#4 -M117-
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Look, it's really quite simple:

Killzone 2 is a really good game, up there with the Halos and Gears of WarsKillzone 2 scored a 9 on gamespot and similarly high scores elsewhere. Killzone 2 is the best looking console game at the moment. No, it does not look better than CrysisKillzone 2 does not do a lot new, but it perfects a lot of tried and tested gameplay elements, creating something unique in the processWhether Killzone 2 is better than Halo 3 is simply a matter of opinionKillzone 2 is great fun and, if the huge amount of posts are anything to go by, will be talked about for many months if not years to come.

And that really is all there is to it.

thetruespin
2 days or not, KZ2 flopped in sales. For a 4 year hyped game with a $60 million budget to not even remotely rake in the same day 1 sales as Gears 2 or Halo 3.........just shows how little gamers actually care. Only 300 something thousand bought the game in two days? cmon...........
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You just fed the fire... :(
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#6 BioShockOwnz
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"Killzone 2 was a lot better than people expected"

Nope. The hype was definitely AAA for the last 3 or so years.

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#7 loco145
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  • Killzone 2 was a lot better than people expected

thetruespin

I dispute this.

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#8 lundy86_4
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"Killzone 2 was a lot better than people expected"

Nope. The hype was definitely AAA for the last 3 or so years.

BioShockOwnz

True... Anyway, at the very least, it met the hype. Which was a good thing

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[QUOTE="thetruespin"]Look, it's really quite simple: GET OVER IT!killerfist
Fixed. I pretty much agree with all what you said, but a new topic on this is useless. This will take a long time before it ends.

I don't understand why people are "More" rabidus about this then when MGS4 scored a 10.
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Actually, Killzone 2 was a lot worse than people expected. The way that cows hyped the game, you would think it something revolutionary like Halo CE. You play it and... "Wow, a nice standard shooter." It is a good shooter, but nothing more than that especially with the lack of co-op campagin and split-screen multiplayer. In my books any shooter that doesn't support at least 2 player splitscreen should be rated at a max of 8.0.

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#11 MBP_King
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It really is a great game in my opinion.

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#12 thetruespin
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"Killzone 2 was a lot better than people expected"

Nope. The hype was definitely AAA for the last 3 or so years.

BioShockOwnz
a lot better than lemmings expected.
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#13 Shattered007
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[QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

  • Killzone 2 was a lot better than people expected

I dispute this.

Indeed, I'm sorry but the lack of CoOp/split screen gaming was unforgiveable to me! I think the thing that was better then expected was the graphics.
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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="thetruespin"]Look, it's really quite simple: GET OVER IT!Shattered007
Fixed. I pretty much agree with all what you said, but a new topic on this is useless. This will take a long time before it ends.

I don't understand why people are "More" rabidus about this then when MGS4 scored a 10.

Because the month MGSIV came out, PS3 sales actually doubled, it got a 10 on Gamespot, AAA on Gamerankings, and had great sales. All of that equaled following back on simply calling it over rated. :P

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But it didn't sell 4 million in 1 day or cause the PS3 to overtake the WIi or have better graphics than Crysis or kill Halo or end world hunger.
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#16 killerfist
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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="thetruespin"]Look, it's really quite simple: GET OVER IT!Shattered007
Fixed. I pretty much agree with all what you said, but a new topic on this is useless. This will take a long time before it ends.

I don't understand why people are "More" rabidus about this then when MGS4 scored a 10.

Same here. I found MGS4 to be 10x better atleast... I mean, KZ2 is awesome and lived up to the crazy amount of hype it got. But it's just another shooter in my eyes.
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#18 _Pinbot_
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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="thetruespin"]Look, it's really quite simple: GET OVER IT!Shattered007
Fixed. I pretty much agree with all what you said, but a new topic on this is useless. This will take a long time before it ends.

I don't understand why people are "More" rabidus about this then when MGS4 scored a 10.

It is simple. MGS4 was an amazing game and deserved a 9.5 - 10. KZ2 is a standard shooter (and if you want pics to prove I have it, just ask and give me a few minutes) and with the lack of standard features it should be scored 8.0. Plus, the fanboys are saying that it is better than Halo 3 which is simply not true (based on review scores, number of features, and sheer size of the community and following of Halo).
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#19 _Pinbot_
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[QUOTE="_Pinbot_"]

Actually, Killzone 2 was a lot worse than people expected. The way that cows hyped the game, you would think it something revolutionary like Halo CE. You play it and... "Wow, a nice standard shooter." It is a good shooter, but nothing more than that especially with the lack of co-op campagin and split-screen multiplayer. In my books any shooter that doesn't support at least 2 player splitscreen should be rated at a max of 6.0.

thetruespin
is that anything to do with the fact you have a 360?

I have all 3 consoles and an amazing gaming PC.
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#20 SUD123456
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Hell has frozen over...because I pretty much agree with most of TC's post :)

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#21 thetruespin
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[QUOTE="Shattered007"][QUOTE="killerfist"] Fixed. I pretty much agree with all what you said, but a new topic on this is useless. This will take a long time before it ends. _Pinbot_
I don't understand why people are "More" rabidus about this then when MGS4 scored a 10.

It is simple. MGS4 was an amazing game and deserved a 9.5 - 10. KZ2 is a standard shooter (and if you want pics to prove I have it, just ask and give me a few minutes) and with the lack of standard features it should be scored 8.0. Plus, the fanboys are saying that it is better than Halo 3 which is simply not true (based on review scores, number of features, and sheer size of the community and following of Halo).

some would argue, like me, that MGS4 is very overhyped and prob only deserved an 8...
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#22 Chutebox  Online
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There is no need for this. Let the haters hate, it's all they got.

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#23 -M117-
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But it didn't sell 4 million in 1 day or cause the PS3 to overtake the WIi or have better graphics than Crysis or kill Halo or end world hunger.Floppy_Jim
cows should have kept their fanatics in check.......cause those claims were all everybody listened to for the past 4 years. they shoudl have released a PR statement saying: the views and concerns of a statistically small amount of our fanboys are making outrageous KZ2 claims. Please ignore them. The cows released no PR statement!!!!!!! lol
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[QUOTE="-M117-"] 2 days or not, KZ2 flopped in sales. For a 4 year hyped game with a $60 million budget to not even remotely rake in the same day 1 sales as Gears 2 or Halo 3.........just shows how little gamers actually care. Only 300 something thousand bought the game in two days? cmon...........

I'm confident that KZ2 will go on to sell enough copies to validate its production. Whether it sells as much as Halo 3, or Gears 2 is inconsequential. Stop diverting the attention to the sales figures, and focus on what's important; the game.
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#25 _Pinbot_
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]But it didn't sell 4 million in 1 day or cause the PS3 to overtake the WIi or have better graphics than Crysis or kill Halo or end world hunger.-M117-
cows should have kept their fanatics in check.......cause those claims were all everybody listened to for the past 4 years. they shoudl have released a PR statement saying: the views and concerns of a statistically small amount of our fanboys are making outrageous KZ2 claims. Please ignore them. The cows released no PR statement!!!!!!! lol

Well there's you problem. :)
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#26 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

"Killzone 2 was a lot better than people expected"

Nope. The hype was definitely AAA for the last 3 or so years.

thetruespin

a lot better than lemmings expected.

I think many lems also expected it to do well, hence the constant hate towards it. Though, it must also be said that while it's a great game in its own right, it surely didn't live up the the lofty expectations for me. It was just too hyped, and as a forum poster, that hype engulfed me, which is sad, because without all that hype, I probably would've liked it a lot more than I did. Same thing happened with Halo 3 for me, personally. The hype ruined it.

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#27 rockguy92
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But it didn't sell 4 million in 1 day or cause the PS3 to overtake the WIi or have better graphics than Crysis or kill Halo or end world hunger.Floppy_Jim
Good point.
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#28 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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The KZ2-bashing threads will end when the KZ2-best-game-ever-threads end.
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#29 nervmeister
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There is no need for this. Let the haters hate, it's all they got.

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^^This^^ Just enjoy the show.
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#30 Sonic_on_crack
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whos in damage control ? its a great game AAA score, nothing out of this world like 9.5 or 10 , graphics are top notch I dont see the big deal .
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#31 Flamestos
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Meh, Killzone 2 was better then I expected after playing KIllzone I was expecting the worse. To the people who were majorly hyped for it and were disappointed that's just too bad I guess. Fanboys will continue to bash the game until the next big exclusive comes out so nothing new here.
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#32 -M117-
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whos in damage control ? its a great game AAA score, nothing out of this world like 9.5 or 10 , graphics are top notch I dont see the big deal .Sonic_on_crack
it was supposed to magically overtake 360 global sales in a couple months apparently........... See "Elpresador" on youtube making KZ2 claims.
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#33 TheNextOrder
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I don't think the people are citing its a flop due to quality. It's not the best game in the world but it's a great game.

I think it's flopping in sales and that's what's raising the issue.

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Killzone 2 is amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing
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#35 heretrix
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I think it's a great game. I just didn't care for it.

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#36 clone01
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Killzone 2 is amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazingPS3Fanaddict
in your opinion, perhaps. its a very good game, but i certainly have played better titles this gen.
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#37 darthogre
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

"Killzone 2 was a lot better than people expected"

Nope. The hype was definitely AAA for the last 3 or so years.

They hype from Cows was AAA, Lems always stated that it was a sequel to a flop. That's why it's true it meet and exceeded expectations........it meet cows expectations and exceeded the Lems.
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[QUOTE="PS3Fanaddict"]Killzone 2 is amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazingclone01
in your opinion, perhaps. its a very good game, but i certainly have played better titles this gen.

yea Metal Gear Solid 4 can be considered just as epic as Killzone 2
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#39 clone01
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yea Metal Gear Solid 4 can be considered just as epic as Killzone 2PS3Fanaddict
so can Gears, GTA4, SMG, Halo 3, Crysis and many others. your Sony bias just might be preventing you from seeing that there are fantastic games on all the systems.

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Killzone 2 ftw.
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What did Killzone 2 do that was "new"? Just curious, haven't had the pleasure of playing it.

Edit: Wow, I fail at reading. Forget that post. :P

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#42 Trinexxx
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Do we really need a new Killzone 2 thread every day?
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#43 EmperorSupreme
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I think it's a great game. I just didn't care for it.

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I'm really enjoying KZ2, although I understand. One example, I felt the same way about Oblivion when it released. Just couldn't get into it personally, although I recognized for it's time it was an amazing game. Fantasy just isn't my thing.
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[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

Look, it's really quite simple:

Killzone 2 is a really good game, up there with the Halos and Gears of WarsKillzone 2 scored a 9 on gamespot and similarly high scores elsewhere. Killzone 2 is the best looking console game at the moment. No, it does not look better than CrysisKillzone 2 does not do a lot new, but it perfects a lot of tried and tested gameplay elements, creating something unique in the processWhether Killzone 2 is better than Halo 3 is simply a matter of opinionKillzone 2 is great fun and, if the huge amount of posts are anything to go by, will be talked about for many months if not years to come.

And that really is all there is to it.

-M117-
2 days or not, KZ2 flopped in sales. For a 4 year hyped game with a $60 million budget to not even remotely rake in the same day 1 sales as Gears 2 or Halo 3.........just shows how little gamers actually care. Only 300 something thousand bought the game in two days? cmon...........

flopped in sales are u serious all we know is that on it's second day it made 350,000 and in a week it passed 1 mil by now we don't know it's a little early and not enough info to say it fliopped in sales don't you think ?
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#46 deactivated-5d25ae64ef918
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What did Killzone 2 do that was "new"? Just curious, haven't had the pleasure of playing it.

Edit: Wow, I fail at reading. Forget that post. :P

Stevo_the_gamer

Aw dood I liked your old avatar moar =(

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Do we really need a new Killzone 2 thread every day?Trinexxx

Evidently yes.Cows seem to feel the need to spend every waking hour teling everybody how great this game is,instead of,y'know, actually playing the damned thing.

I think certain cows are dissapointed that KZ2 didn't set the videogaming world alight like good ol' Sony told them them it would.

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#48 rockguy92
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Do we really need a new Killzone 2 thread every day?Trinexxx
We need another sticky...
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#49 akif22
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i don't quite know why but i didn't like the demo something just wasn't quite right .. movement wasn't very fast or fluid either and i'd have preferred it to be more run & gun, rather than strategic use of cover .. it was too slow, and it didn't quite flow right call me picky, but when a game is hyped so much, every little detail needs to be examined ultimately, i don't judge graphics, gameplay etc seperately .. i just use the gut feeling i get when playing a game and killzone 2 wasn't enjoyable for me
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#50 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="Trinexxx"]Do we really need a new Killzone 2 thread every day?GabeNewellsPie

Evidently yes.Cows seem to feel the need to spend every waking hour teling everybody how great this game is,instead of,y'know, actually playing the damned thing.

I think certain cows are dissapointed that KZ2 didn't set the videogaming world alight like good ol' Sony told them them it would.

lol most of the threads I have seen have been bashing KZ2.